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#101 PatchMaster
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I appreciate that they exist, but something about pulling the plug on backward compatibility in the middle of the gen and a then few years later (when most people have sold off their PS2s) trying to sell everyone new compatible copies of games they may already own still reeks in my book.

 

In other words, HD collections good. Sony's way of handling them, a little shady.

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#102 PatchMaster
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There's a difference there. Sony doesn't depend on HD Collections as system sellers. Nintendo does, and in a way like it's throwing a bone to fans. No games to play for months? No matter. We'll give you Wind Waker HD. And suddenly, all is forgiven.

That doesn't happen on any other console.

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Except Nintendo has barely done any HD remakes. There have been a couple of game bundles, like MP trilogy and anniversary collections, but that's it. So are you basing this off OoT HD? Also, I guarantee you there will be plenty of other Wii U games coming out in Q4, so the "throwing a bone" thing doesn't really apply.

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#103 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

There's a difference there. Sony doesn't depend on HD Collections as system sellers. Nintendo does, and in a way like it's throwing a bone to fans. No games to play for months? No matter. We'll give you Wind Waker HD. And suddenly, all is forgiven.

That doesn't happen on any other console.

jhcho2

 

Except Nintendo has barely done any HD remakes. There have been a couple of game bundles, like MP trilogy and anniversary collections, but that's it. So are you basing this off OoT HD? Also, I guarantee you there will be plenty of other Wii U games coming out in Q4, so the "throwing a bone" thing doesn't really apply.

How bout Okami and Resident Evil 4 for Wii?

What about them? Don't think Nintendo had much involvement beyond letting capcom publish for the Wii.
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#104 campzor
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If you want to play the old games, play them on the older systems. For those who have moved on from last gen hardware, and that havnt played those games, its perfect.
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#105 joel_c17
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someones butthurt they still havnt gotten MGS4 hahahah
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#106 Karpetburnz
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I would want HD collections even if there was full BC. To me it's just like buying blu-ray versions of old movies I like, and in some cases, ones I haven't seen yet.

Slashkice

This, a very good exapmple.

I like HD collections, It allows me to play PS2 games on my PS3 in HD, I dont know how people can spin this as a bad thing? people will say its "milking" but really theyre just trying to find an excuse to bash Sony.

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#107 AmazonTreeBoa
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No I don't hate it and I see no reason to. I see no reason to hate on more options for people when looking at the game shelf at the store. Not want it, don't buy it. It's that simple. Some people like having the option to buy remade older games that they would have no other way of playing. I never played a GoW before and bought the collection which came with GoW1+2. After playing the sly 4 demo, I added the sly collection to my amazon wish list to get before I get sly 4.
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#108 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

There's a difference there. Sony doesn't depend on HD Collections as system sellers. Nintendo does, and in a way like it's throwing a bone to fans. No games to play for months? No matter. We'll give you Wind Waker HD. And suddenly, all is forgiven.

That doesn't happen on any other console.

PatchMaster

 

Except Nintendo has barely done any HD remakes. There have been a couple of game bundles, like MP trilogy and anniversary collections, but that's it. So are you basing this off OoT HD? Also, I guarantee you there will be plenty of other Wii U games coming out in Q4, so the "throwing a bone" thing doesn't really apply.

How bout Okami and Resident Evil 4 for Wii?

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#109 NoirLamia777
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I wish Microsoft and Nintendo did it as much as Sony.  I love HD collections, mainly because I wasn't that into gaming back when the original Xbox/Gamecube was out.  

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#110 Mrmedia01
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Its milking at its finest. The most ridiculous case is God of War. Sony does it too much, they need to stop with the HD collections and focus on new IPs (yeah I went there lololol)

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They do both HD collections and new IPs every year

PS3 New IP's 2013: The Last Of Us, Beyond Two Souls, Puppetteer, Rain, Until Dawn, plus a load of third party exclusives.

I don't see Nintendo or MS pumping out HD collections or new IP's right now. What did they do in 2013???? Oh nothing, MS and Nintendo Completely lazy assssed it. Lets just give the gamers 2D mario and a Gears Of War Prequal, that will make them love us. FAIL

 

KAZ IS GOD, deal with it. hahahaha jking but funny.

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#111 Mrmedia01
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I love all these HD Collections. My PS3 is turning into my PS2 (greatest console ever), making the PS3 the greatest console ever.ShadowofSonic

 

This^^^ Starting to get all the best PS2 games now in HD for PS3 :), while we can enjoy all the new IP's that come out all year long for PS3.

 

PS3 has games coming out there ears, Exlcusive IP's and HD collections. FACT.

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#112 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Its milking at its finest. The most ridiculous case is God of War. Sony does it too much, they need to stop with the HD collections and focus on new IPs (yeah I went there lololol)

parkurtommo

>Complains about God of War

>Forgets about the other GoW, Gears of War, which has had 4 iterations on a single platform.

Could you be any more irrelevant in the discussion about HD Collections

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#113 Minishdriveby
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ehhh... I still have a PS2, so I just ignore the HD remakes for the most part. The higher resolution is nice though.
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#114 ShadowofSonic
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I love all these HD Collections. My PS3 is turning into my PS2 (greatest console ever), making the PS3 the greatest console ever.
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#115 Gue1
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I really don't see anything wrong with it. If you already own the games then don't buy them because they are not for you! HD collections are for people that either, want to buy the games again because they can play them on 16:9 and HD or for people that never even got to play them in the first place. Now what is the problem with them? I just don't get it....

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#116 PatchMaster
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

 

Except Nintendo has barely done any HD remakes. There have been a couple of game bundles, like MP trilogy and anniversary collections, but that's it. So are you basing this off OoT HD? Also, I guarantee you there will be plenty of other Wii U games coming out in Q4, so the "throwing a bone" thing doesn't really apply.

darkspineslayer

How bout Okami and Resident Evil 4 for Wii?

What about them? Don't think Nintendo had much involvement beyond letting capcom publish for the Wii.

 

And the funny part is how the Wii versions were essentially ports. Both games later got actual "HD remakes" for the twins,

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#117 DISSESHOWEDO
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What can we say, Sony likes to rehash.charizard1605

Nope, that's nintendos game !

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#118 AD216
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im still waiting on shenmue 1&2 and jade empire. that was my shit back in the day.

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#119 AD216
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[QUOTE="ShadowofSonic"]I love all these HD Collections. My PS3 is turning into my PS2 (greatest console ever), making the PS3 the greatest console ever.Mrmedia01

 

This^^^ Starting to get all the best PS2 games now in HD :), while we can enjoy all the new IP's that come out all year long.

woah woah woah. snes is the king. the ps2 is 2nd though with the n64 coming in at a close 3rd
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#120 Cyberdot
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HD Collections are particularly good for those who missed out.

Didn't play franchises such as Jak & Daxter, MGS, Sly Cooper, and God of War on PS2, so those HD Collections gave me a fantastic opportunity to catch up.

Thank you, Sony.

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#121 Jak-25
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I like HD collectons but I like to have backwards compatibility too!

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#122 trollhunter2
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[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

why does Microsoft get excused by lemmings, for not developing new games?

RR360DD

They are. Wow, self owned :lol:

really :? Isnt here a well known lemming, who claims that MS has a better and bigger library than Sony, or am I missing something here:?

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#123 trollhunter2
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why does Microsoft get excused by lemmings, for not developing new games?

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#124 Riverwolf007
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i really don't care except in the case where one comes out that i want to buy like the ico/sotc remake.\

they can do whatever they want to do, after all it is their company.

when one comes out and i want it i buy it when one comes out and i don't want to buy it i  don't buy it.

simple enough.

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#125 RR360DD
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why does Microsoft get excused by lemmings, for not developing new games?

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They are. Wow, self owned :lol:
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#126 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Gotta increase dem miserable sales numbers some how :?

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#127 ShoulderOfOrion
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Sony needs cash.
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#128 deactivated-57d307c5efcda
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I'm fine with HD collections. They are the same thing as records getting remastered recordings or movies getting restored/remastered. So how are HD releases harming you?

I will always enjoy better versions of my favorites. Just as I bought the Black Sabbath Black Box remastered set, I will rebuy my favorite games such as Final Fantasy X in a HD remaster.

Music and Movies do it, why can't games

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#129 mariokart64fan
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ps3 has so many games that dont sell !   have you seen the charts !  i can only pick a hand ful of games of all sonys exclusives that have sold  well , 

not counting sequals  -   

 

 and these hd collections are milking at its finest at least nintendo gives you 4 or 5 games for the price of one , 

 

  -like they did w super mario all stars and kirby dream land collection 

but sony ya 3 is it for them and they cost 40-60 bucks a pop l i d rather have full bc over spending money again 

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#130 jg4xchamp
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Because of the many annoying things devs/pubs do this is the least offensive.
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#131 mitu123
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Very useful for picking up some games you missed, and plus it's in HD!

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#132 ultimate-k
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Well at least they are at a budget price, and are good value for money to those who missed out on them last gen. 

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#133 StrifeDelivery
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The concept of HD collections sounds great on paper, and is generally executed well, but sometimes falls flat (Silent Hill, ZOE, etc.)

But the point of HD collections allows individuals who missed out on series, sometimes with games that are hard to find/expensive to be able to pick them up with some extra perks on one disk. I've picked up the Sly collection because I've heard good stuff about the series (don't own any of the PS2 games). Will pick up the Ico/SOTC collection because I own SOTC but don't own Ico, which sometimes is a pain to find. 

Also, difference between Sony and 3rd parties when it comes to HD collections.