Why downgrade MGS4 for 360?

Umm yeah..gundam PROVES the beast PS3 is...because when comparing greatness we showcase our worst to demonstrate who has more power...because anyone can look tough when giewn a AAA but showing the worst shows who has higher standards in games..

That said this KILLS bomerman zero....we win :D

NextGenNow

U serouisly have mental problems or do u get paid by sony cause that was one of the stupidest logics ive ever seen

I finally got to play a PS3 yesterday on a 50" Pioneer HDTV. I played Motorstorm, Resistance and GTHD. NO DOWNGRADE REQUIRED. :lol:

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

Umm yeah..gundam PROVES the beast PS3 is...because when comparing greatness we showcase our worst to demonstrate who has more power...because anyone can look tough when giewn a AAA but showing the worst shows who has higher standards in games..

That said this KILLS bomerman zero....we win :D

odin2019

The point is our worst game is better than your worst game. Come on now.

LMFAO! Has it really come to this? Seriously? :lol:

This is Hilarious. So you guys pretty much admit that the 360's top games are better than the PS3's and you go off and try to claim ownage for the fact that your crap isn't as crappy?! 

just give it up man, you're just making yourselves look worse.  

or you could keep it the same and just use some compressiona and put it on two disc.

wohoo.:roll:

I dont really care about the game myself I doubt I would get it even if it came to the 360. but thats just me.

Umm yeah..gundam PROVES the beast PS3 is...because when comparing greatness we showcase our worst to demonstrate who has more power...because anyone can look tough when giewn a AAA but showing the worst shows who has higher standards in games..

That said this KILLS bomerman zero....we win :D

NextGenNow

LAY OFF THE GLUE, KID. 

Umm yeah..gundam PROVES the beast PS3 is...because when comparing greatness we showcase our worst to demonstrate who has more power...because anyone can look tough when giewn a AAA but showing the worst shows who has higher standards in games..

That said this KILLS bomerman zero....we win :D

NextGenNow

What about Fear and Splinter cell? 2 games first on xbox, horribly downgraded for ps3

with your logic, MGS4 would be massivly upgraded for 360. poor poor cow, the mad disease has gotten to him. Its ok that you have nothing to play, maybe try getting some excercise for once? 

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

You, obviously are missing half your brain.  Sometimes I wish people would read what they post..... 

"not to mention motion sensing..."

NextGenNow

This is why they should port it to the Wii =) 

I find it incredible how I can go this site, and hear and talk to people who know more about software than the developers.MTBare

I agree, it is amazing.

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

So you gonna regret the Oblivion comment when Haze comes out looking better on 360 because of extra development time? 

I guess you haven't played both versions of Armored Core 4 - a game built for the PS3 that looks and plays better on the 360...

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

DarthMar

So you gonna regret the Oblivion comment when Haze comes out looking better on 360 because of extra development time? 

I guess you haven't played both versions of Armored Core 4 - a game built for the PS3 that looks and plays better on the 360...

[QUOTE="DarthMar"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

So you gonna regret the Oblivion comment when Haze comes out looking better on 360 because of extra development time?

I guess you haven't played both versions of Armored Core 4 - a game built for the PS3 that looks and plays better on the 360...

Nextgennow... you need to make a new profile because this one is already wel known as a fakeboy account. I mean nobody could believe that all the completely inccorect nonsense you say is serious.

Also Oblivion ran better on 360. 

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DarthMar"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

hazuki87

So you gonna regret the Oblivion comment when Haze comes out looking better on 360 because of extra development time?

I guess you haven't played both versions of Armored Core 4 - a game built for the PS3 that looks and plays better on the 360...

Nextgennow... you need to make a new profile because this one is already wel known as a fakeboy account. I mean nobody could believe that all the completely inccorect nonsense you say is serious.

Also Oblivion ran better on 360. 

And no....Oblivion DID NOT run better even with the patch I know becuz I logged an easy 200 hrs with both the 360 and PS3 versions of the game...sooo...you = fail..

[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="DarthMar"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

So you gonna regret the Oblivion comment when Haze comes out looking better on 360 because of extra development time?

I guess you haven't played both versions of Armored Core 4 - a game built for the PS3 that looks and plays better on the 360...

Nextgennow... you need to make a new profile because this one is already wel known as a fakeboy account. I mean nobody could believe that all the completely inccorect nonsense you say is serious.

Also Oblivion ran better on 360.

And no....Oblivion DID NOT run better even with the patch I know becuz I logged an easy 200 hrs with both the 360 and PS3 versions of the game...sooo...you = fail..

And what is your gamercard for 360? :) 

:D

SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

NextGenNow

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

how did the 360 handle oblivion? by gettin a higher score than the ps3 version? 

sorry but you dont have any idea what your talking about......

particle effects??

ive yet to see any that stand against kameo with a game on the ps3 plus the 360 has a better gpu than the ps3 plus physics on games we've seen so far like resistence have been pretty poor.........the box smashes and other stuff that hardleys have any movement to them at all,,even if they do move!

Oblivion PS3 had a one year edge over Oblivion 360.

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow

We all saw how PC handled oblivion, Then we saw how consoles handled it. Why bother downgradeding it for consoles.

And the Holw 360 Oblivion VS PS3 Oblivions is stupid.  A whole extra year of development dosnt equate the PS3 handling it better. If if it dose than how about this

Splintercell DA for PS3 look drastically worse than DA for 360 (Even bigger differenace than Oblivions) Yet it had extra dev tim and Sony enginers helped than recode the egine to take advantage of the PS3s abilities.

:D

SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

NextGenNow

gamertag please..otherwise I dont believe you 

why? because it will sell. a lot.

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

:D

SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

primetime2121

gamertag please..otherwise I dont believe you 

Lol, he bought core.

[QUOTE="primetime2121"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

:D

SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

Marka1700

gamertag please..otherwise I dont believe you

Lol, he bought core.

lol..is that even his 360 ?? he doesnt even have a Silver account which is free..why would you cancel something that is free ?? so no thats probably not even his..probably jacked sombody elses picture

[QUOTE="NextGenNow"]

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

BenGenio

Listent Cow, last generation I had the same problem with the playstation 2, why make playstation 2 games if they will be waayy better on the xbox? looks like its the other way around now, so shut up and TAKE it.

My thoughts exactly...well, almost exactly. I might not have been so rude.

Even if the PS3 is more powerful (supposedly) and a game needs to be downgraded for the 360, will the difference be as great as the gap between the PS2 visuals and the Xbox visuals? I guess time will tell. Even if they are better, I doubt they will be $200 better.

[QUOTE="Marka1700"][QUOTE="primetime2121"][QUOTE="NextGenNow"](Images removed)

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SuperGayJesus but I cancelled my account. I have mad friends you can ask for athenticity

primetime2121

gamertag please..otherwise I dont believe you

Lol, he bought core.

lol..is that even his 360 ?? he doesnt even have a Silver account which is free..why would you cancel something that is free ?? so no thats probably not even his..probably jacked sombody elses picture

Oblivion PC looks superior to both the PS3 and the Xbox 360... so why downgrade MGS4 for the PS3, when you can upgrade it for DX10 graphics cards? The Xbox 360 is graphically more powerful than the PS3, not less. All that storage space on the PS3 is not being used for polygons, particles, or textures - it's being used for the massive CGI movies that are being used to achieve graphics that it can't achieve on its underwhelming GPU.

All I see is a fanboy arguement incorrectly using technical terms to try and sound credible... now a game like Gears of War is impossible on the PS3, it uses more than 256mb of video memory, thanks to the unified RAM architecture on the 360. Going over to the PS3 would require a downgrade.

And MGS4 on the 360? Well that depends if Konami is making a game (engine) or a movie (CGI)... as movies are all that Blu-Ray is good for.

I suggest not ranting pseudo-technical about the PS3... especially with last gen terms like "polygon count", "draw distances", and "particle effects". Try "hdr lighting", "shadows", "fsaa", and "high-res textures" if you want to sound like you've done any research since 2003.
subrosian

yeah why downgrade all the cutscenes? ParadiddleFill

:| MGS games last 10-12 hours without the cutscenes

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

NextGenNow

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]I agree.  Downgrading MGS4 to the 360, for all the scenes and levels to fit on a 9gig disc.  It would get downgraded to the previous version in graphics.  Not that the previous looked bad.kindredmachine

Right... and Resistance was 18GB! ROTFL!!!! It came out that is was only about 3 or 4 GB... what a joke. And if you're comparing ports then the PS3 must suck because Need for Speed and many othe rports all looked WORSE on the PS3 than the 360. Grow up...

Oblivion looked and loaded very much the same on both consoles. Take of the fanboy blinders.

And MGS4 isn't going to the 360, so why did you make this topic? I'll tell you why, to bash the 360. Move on man. Go play some games or something.

Private_Vegas

Every review even the biased Gamespot review said that Elder scrolls on the PS3 looked cleaner, loaded faster and had a longer draw distance then the 360 version.

silly cows and there "thereotical" power. yet the system specs are the same besides the fact that the 360 has more GPU. stop praising your sony gods, some companies actually do what they say, not make u pay $600 for a console with no games for 2 years. leaving the cows to hype what theyre system might be able to do.

 

ps. why do u think there are no lems and sheep on the forums anymore? becuase theyre already playing AAA games not sitting at theyre computer guessing about what may happen.

OpticalCanine

Are you forgetting about the ps3 CPU? Sure, 360 has a slightly better GPU but there litterally around the same ground, but when you compare there CPU, PS3 demolishes the 360. ANd also, the games are comming, you know why cows are saying this, its because there system just came out. its been 6 months only. Lets compare the games 360 has when it was at 6 months? No Gears, No Forza.

*whacks head on table*

Stop, this is a waste of time, MGS4 isn't even getting on the 360... just lay-off. 

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]

silly cows and there "thereotical" power. yet the system specs are the same besides the fact that the 360 has more GPU. stop praising your sony gods, some companies actually do what they say, not make u pay $600 for a console with no games for 2 years. leaving the cows to hype what theyre system might be able to do.

 

ps. why do u think there are no lems and sheep on the forums anymore? becuase theyre already playing AAA games not sitting at theyre computer guessing about what may happen.

ganon42

Are you forgetting about the ps3 CPU? Sure, 360 has a slightly better GPU but there litterally around the same ground, but when you compare there CPU, PS3 demolishes the 360. ANd also, the games are comming, you know why cows are saying this, its because there system just came out. its been 6 months only. Lets compare the games 360 has when it was at 6 months? No Gears, No Forza.

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]

Oblivion looked and loaded very much the same on both consoles. Take of the fanboy blinders.

And MGS4 isn't going to the 360, so why did you make this topic? I'll tell you why, to bash the 360. Move on man. Go play some games or something.

caseypayne69

Every review even the biased Gamespot review said that Elder scrolls on the PS3 looked cleaner, loaded faster and had a longer draw distance then the 360 version.

Looked cleaner due to: 1 extra year of development

Loaded faster due to: A couple gigs of the game being loaded onto the HDD (Bethesda actually acknowledged that the PS3's disc read times are actually worse than the 360's, so this point is moot, as this same effect could be utilized with the 360 HDD)

Draw greater distance due to: See 1st response

Seriously, how is Oblivion a good game to use as a case for PS3 superiority? If it is, than F.E.A.R. is an even better one for the PS3's inferiority.

The 360 needed a benchmark game, so bethesda rushed it a little, had Obliivon had the same exact amount of dev time the PS3 had.....It would have blown it out of the water, Regardless of the Cell the 360's GPU stomps mudholes in the RSX, and its ram is more accessible both ways not to just the GPU like the PS3.

The PS3 has better particle effects...were? You need teh glasses? I owned the PS3 and played resistance, it could have been done on the 360 10 times over and 10 times better. Resistance is one of my favorite games for the PS3 as was Oblivion, but every one knows had they both had an extra year, the 360 version would have killed, and there was NO excuse for Resistance to have textures like that. Granted it didnt look like ass, but it was fairly muddy and unclear even with HDMI. Resistance would have looked WAY better on the 360. 7.1 surround sound......and Im sure everyone has a reciever that can pump that out right:roll:....motion sensing= gimmick. The PS3 controler in no way shape or form was even built or made with motion sensing in mind...they just had to have an excuse for not having rumble.

PS3...more poly's....Everything I have ever seen has said that the 360 can push more poly's then the PS3. More characters on screen...Hell there hasnt been a PS3 game yet that has more characters on screen then Kameo:lol: Hmmm dont know what TV you play on but Oblivion just had an update, and it got all the shaders and most texture improvements the PS3 got, so there goes that argument, oh and it also loads a lot less than it did before, even though I will agree the PS3 version is a bit better visually, with the recent update its not by much, and were is the PS3's DLC?.

Gears taking 6 seconds to load textures...again WTF? Never seen it happen. I hate gears but even I know visually its a benchmark for a console, that Sony said was "inferior" to theres.

You guys must really be insecure about your purchase to defend the PS3 all the time trying to say that OMGzzers teh cell and blu-gayFTWzzersbbq111!!!11 teh graphics on the PS3 are way better...Sorry to tell ya from a technical standpoint there isnt on exclusive last year or this year that will even go toe to toe with Gears on any level of graphics physics what ever. I man enough to say my PS3 was a waste, Sony made promises with yet another console that they couldnt keep. Any one remeber the "PS2 is a super computer that will change gaming" argument that Sony mad for the PS2? Well I do...what a sham :lol:

Sony needs to start building a game library and worry about blu-ray movies later. Maybe some day the PS3 will be an equal to the 360, but for its tech specs it has on paper, it sure isnt living up to Sonys hype, and the proof is in the product. Like I keep saying, If Sony isnt going to fully utilize the Cell and Blu-ray..why should 3rd party's? If Sonys hardware isnt so unbalanced then PROVE IT! Until Sony can show something good in the way of games (super PC?....my ass!) Ill stick with my 360, it has more games and the games I want......and games that are still seemingly bigger and longer than anything sony has for this year or next probably.......Mass Effect anyone?

I mean...we all saw how 360 handled Oblivion...

Then we saw how PS3 handled it...

Point is...games like Resistance would NOT work on 360..they use faaar too many particle effects and rely heavily on the Cell architecture...

So why then take a game MADE for PS3 hardware from the gropund up...optimizng that hardware...and downgrade it to 360? You would literally have to remake the game for tricore...It would almost certainly lose a majority of particle effects and would also lose 7.1 surround sound...not to mention motion sensing...

The 360 hardware while strong just doesnt have the draw distance capabilities, particle effects or physics of PS3....plus with the PS3's abilities to generate faaar more polygons...we can have literally more characters and onscreen at once along with better clarity...360 fans know this cuz Oblivion looks muddy 50 feet infront of them and Gears sometimes takes 6 seconds to load textures....

NextGenNow