Why gaming on PC is frustrating

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

jasonheyman

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

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http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html%5B/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

Pinkyimp

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

You have to admit he has a point. Who wants to make all those adjustments just to play a game?!

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

jasonheyman

You have to admit he has a point. Who wants to make all those adjustments just to play a game?!

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

Well you dont make the adjustment to PLAY the game..

there just add on's, extra perks if you will...their there for PC gamers to costomize them..not only that but almost every game automaticlly does it..so its not really a problem there..I would rather have the choice to customize how i want to play instead of having a prefit choice of graphics..but thats me.

Really..this is a super weak arguement.

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

Most games auto detect you hardware and set the system specs automatically based on it. You tweaking is at your own discretion.

I was going to say something witty but then I saw it was jasonheyman that started this thread and decided not to bother.DucksBrains

Yah..  I was aswell but then I saw the avitar and realized all logic was abesent from his threads.

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

You dont have to...almost 90% of PC games Autochoose graphics setting based on your hardware..and games like crysis are starting to push the "1-button" graphics preset option

Not only that but there not fustrating..unless your installing a mod and you have to know where your game file are..which anyone can do unless you lack the complete skill to operate a computer at the most basic level..

This is all up to choice..its also a weaksause arguement that has been done to death and proven that its a personal choice many times

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http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

Pinkyimp

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

i like g4/use to. they still have ineresting things but not on video games anymore :( 

its a little true about that. he mentions that he wants a pc that can play everything on high but could never find it. like he saids at E3 when he sees the games all nice and smooth but when he plays thier crap. 

i just bought another gig of ram because now most games require a mimimum of 1 gig of ram. so i'l have 2 gigs in my sytem when ever i get it from newegg.com i also need to upgrade my video card. my 7900 broke i either get a new cooling device or get a new card. i desided to get a new card for christmas or something. once that is in i will be good for another 2 years. 

pc gaming is nice to do. its a nice hobby to go around buying new parts seeing it unleash. there are also good fun mods. when a game comes out. 

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...Espada12

Most games auto detect you hardware and set the system specs automatically based on it. You tweaking is at your own discretion.

From what he was saying it was something who couldn't avoid he had to make choices in order to just play the game..

Im not even gonna watch that because I know its some BS. PC gaming is not frustrating, you put the disc in the drive, install and play.EVOLV3

It's not that bad, but what sessler fails to realise is recommended requirements on the box are not the enthusiast requirements, which is also a good point that he makes(that system requirements are misleading). They should put 3 sets of requirements. Minimum, Recommended and Enthusiast.

This will be my only reply to this thread due to the TC's history.

It's not rocket science to tweak your settings. IMO it's very easy to know which graphical settings are the most graphics intensive so I can work around it easily. But hell my rig is FC2's reccommended specs. It runs the game fine with high settings.

I honestly find Sessler to be the minority.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

iam2green

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

i like g4/use to. they still have ineresting things but not on video games anymore :( 

its a little true about that. he mentions that he wants a pc that can play everything on high but could never find it. like he saids at E3 when he sees the games all nice and smooth but when he plays thier crap. 

i just bought another gig of ram because now most games require a mimimum of 1 gig of ram. so i'l have 2 gigs in my sytem when ever i get it from newegg.com i also need to upgrade my video card. my 7900 broke i either get a new cooling device or get a new card. i desided to get a new card for christmas or something. once that is in i will be good for another 2 years. 

pc gaming is nice to do. its a nice hobby to go around buying new parts seeing it unleash. there are also good fun mods. when a game comes out. 

It is true..

but not every pc devloper is going to hold your hand in the process..if you want to F'ing play the game you system better be up for it..or at least play the game at a decent frame before you come crying to us...People need to stop being lazy and BS'ing around blaming it on PC gaming.

If you want to play a game..and you know damn well your system can handle it at even the lowest spec..then instead of crying about "it looked goodz at teh e3ZZ!@@@, and now i can play itz!!!!" upgrade your stupid POS and stop crying like a baby..

God i hate G4.

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[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

Most games auto detect you hardware and set the system specs automatically based on it. You tweaking is at your own discretion.

From what he was saying it was something who couldn't avoid he had to make choices in order to just play the game..

From what I understand he is saying he bought his hardware based on teh the recommended specs for games were. Which obviously isn't smart if you want to max out the game smoothly at what ever rez he is talking about, but which makes him bring up a good point about the recommended specs on boxes.

There was nothing wrong with Sesslers video he was fair and just stated that all the tweaking can become frustrating...

There was nothing wrong with Sesslers video he was fair and just stated that all the tweaking can become frustrating...

jasonheyman

Yes there were a few things wrong, but he also brought up valid points. It is a fair video for the most part. Remember he also said PC gaming is absolutely not dying and that it's awesome as well ;)

I swear, Jasonheyman, you are responsible for over half of the PC hating on this board.  Just take it easy man.

As for the video, Sessler is basically just asking for a console.  If he wants to have all the decisions made for him, than he really shouldn't be looking into PC gaming.  Arguably the best, and worst attribute of PC gaming is it's customizability.  All Sessler is doing is complaining about the negative aspects of it.  This has been done before countless times, and has always proven to be ineffectual every time.

I swear, Jasonheyman, you are responsible for over half of the PC hating on this board.  Just take it easy man.

As for the video, Sessler is basically just asking for a console.  If he wants to have all the decisions made for him, than he really shouldn't be looking into PC gaming.  Arguably the best, and worst attribute of PC gaming is it's customizability.  All Sessler is doing is complaining about the negative aspects of it.  This has been done before countless times, and has always proven to be ineffectual every time.

agentfred

I said this in my first post of this thread. He does have a point, but again he has to realise the customization is a double edged sword and he is only using one side of the argument.

Ok, we get it. PC gaming as problems that you don't like and hinder you from enjoying it.

Now that you've made your point, as you have with the previous 15 or so threads on the topic, go do something constructive. 

Ok, we get it. PC gaming as problems that you don't like and hinder you from enjoying it.

Now that you've made your point, as you have with the previous 15 or so threads on the topic, go do something constructive. 

blaaah

Hey...another day..

another Jaysonheyman Thread...*sign*

Im not even gonna watch that because I know its some BS. PC gaming is not frustrating, you put the disc in the drive, install and play.EVOLV3

If you haven't watched it, don't comment on it like you automatically know what he was going to say.

He brings up a point about the recommended specs not running smoothly on high res/settings, though.  

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html%5B/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

jasonheyman

Hmm..i should read thi...oh wait..

its from G4..

You have to admit he has a point. Who wants to make all those adjustments just to play a game?!

People that dont have money to afford console or upgrade pc? 

http://www.g4tv.com/thepile/videos/29354/Sesslers_Soapbox_A_Glitch_In_The_System.html[/url

Adam explains this very well I think...

jasonheyman

This guy hates options... what's the deal what that? Also he has probleme maxing spore... now, that's sounds like a user end probleme.

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]Im not even gonna watch that because I know its some BS. PC gaming is not frustrating, you put the disc in the drive, install and play.tmatte

If you haven't watched it, don't comment on it like you automatically know what he was going to say.

He brings up a point about the recommended specs not running smoothly on high res/settings, though.  

He doesn't even say what resolution he's playing at.

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...bladeeagle

exactly, unless you upgrade after an install, but even then some games detect that too.

all games that i have installed in the past few years dont require any "tweaks"

Thought this was gonna be about about the whole maintenance bit, and five million million possible hardware combinations and even more possible ways of something going wrong. Cause that is annoying. 

Instead it's a bunch of whining about his recommended spec PC not playing every game on high at 50FPS. I thought it was commonly known amongst PC gamers that recommended specs are more or less bull. But yes, it would be preferable if they weren't.

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...bladeeagle

exactly, unless you upgrade after an install, but even then some games detect that too.

all games that i have installed in the past few years dont require any "tweaks"

Thought this was gonna be about about the whole maintenance bit, and five million million possible hardware combinations and even more possible ways of something going wrong. Cause that is annoying. 

InsaneBasura

Even console have problemes with games... 

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

Thought this was gonna be about about the whole maintenance bit, and five million million possible hardware combinations and even more possible ways of something going wrong. Cause that is annoying. 

Bebi_vegeta

Even console have problemes with games... 

Sigh... 

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

Tweaking your rig is half the fun

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

Thought this was gonna be about about the whole maintenance bit, and five million million possible hardware combinations and even more possible ways of something going wrong. Cause that is annoying. 

InsaneBasura

Even console have problemes with games... 

Sigh... 

Toucher, huh?

[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...Espada12

Most games auto detect you hardware and set the system specs automatically based on it. You tweaking is at your own discretion.

pc gaming is fun, its the pc that can be frustrating, if you're not an expert at pc-related stuff. i hate when my network goes haywire or my pc crashes. takes me forever to fix it. but pc games are worth it, if you have a good pc. i don't, so i don't bother. older games are still fun, though. as are console games. they both have their ups and downs.

Ugh, Mister Exclamation Points is posting an article from G4.

Surely this time it won't be completely stupid. :roll:

Ugh, Mister Exclamation Points is posting an article from G4.

Surely this time it won't be completely stupid. :roll:

 

t3hTwinky

its all true!!!!!!!!!!!

how can we bame on PCs!!!!!!!!!!!

its so annoying what are we thining!!!!1!1!1!!!!1!one!eleven!seventyfour!

also: G4 is a joke gtfo with that junk

I know when I buy a game I want to put it in and play it! Not make all these frustrating tweaks...jasonheyman

I rarely have to make tweaks to my games, they all run fine out of the box. Anyway, some people really enjoy tweaking their games to their preferance, that's one of the things I like about PC gaming.

I agree with some of the things he said, it can be really frustrating to make a game work the way u want it too. I remember crysis auto-detecting my hardware to medium and it was a slideshow.

PC gaming is fun, but it comes with some extra hassles sometimes.

PCgaming always has been less convienient, but at the same time it offers far more freedom and options to choose from than console gaming.

You can either have standarized gaming or flexibility, you can't have both. If you prefer the former go to consoles, if you like the latter, then PCgaming is the way to go. 

Mr, Annoying voice has a point. Yes it's somewhat more of a hassle compared to consoles, but it's not as bad as he makes it look like. You can actually just set things on high-medium etc, and you are ready.

While complaining he said something along the lines ''I don't wanna have to set my lightning effects'' Well having those options is part of PC gaming's advantages. I appreciate being able to have some nice AA , particle effects etc and make my game look better overall by sacrificing some shadows.