Why get excited over another Paper Mario game that was made for the Gamecube?

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#51 ChiefFreeman
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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo.  I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though.  That game looks really cool.
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]Nintendo rides the coattails of its past success.  Do something new like Microsoft did when they created a great new franchise (Gears of War).   Or like Sony with the upcoming Heavenly Sword.   ShakeNBake1491
I think Nintendo's continued use of their legendary franchises might have something to due with their ability to consistently deliver, and they have been giving us new franchises every year. Is there some other Nintendo you're talking about, because you seem to be wrong about who I'm talking about every time....

That's true. They all deliver and have the brand to generate the hype. Not to mention they do actually reinvent through Mario. and there are other series that Nintendo has made. Upon the early days of last-gen Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Geist and other titles that are underrated or just single titles like Geist.
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#53 Silent_Bob32
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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo. I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though. That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman
They have nothing to do with that game. Do you know what you're talking about at all?
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#54 wok7
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yes, to me it is a big deal. Nintendo doesn't care about visuals at all.

Not this gen, but last gen SMS, WW, Z:TP, SSBM, MP 1 + 2, etc. were some of the best looking games. Now with the Wii, it doesn't matter if they chose to do HD graphics or not, the variaty of games this time makes up for it.

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#55 _BlueDuck_
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To answer your original question "Why get excited over another Paper Mario game that was made for the Gamecube?"

The answer: The last Paper Mario game that was made for Gamecube was an amazing game even by today standards; simple, no?

I won't be bothered with explaining why this game isn't a rehash at all, read any preview of the game and you'll find out why.

In the visual department, well the visuals are apparently "stellar and showcase a striking mix of style and tech." (Gamespot)

In short: We need more Paper Mario and less money for public schools

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You can say it isn't next gen and all, but the fact is that there is a novel 2D-3D environment that hasn't been done before.

That's the appeal behind this game. 

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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo.  I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though.  That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman
Boring...:lol:
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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo.  I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though.  That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman
Not made by Nintendo though, and Heavenly Sword isn't developed by Sony either and neither is Gears of War, published yes but not developed.
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#59 finalfantasy94
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yes, to me it is a big deal.  Nintendo doesn't care about visuals at all.ChiefFreeman

Yeat you have a RE4 icon which looks great on GC and better then the ps2 version.

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what happened to games like Goldeneye or Perfect Dark?  Both considered to be 2 of the greatest shooters ever.  i want to see something liek that that wil wow me now, like those titles did 7-10 years ago. 
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#61 Metrovania
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Rehashed? Tell me one other game where you switch from 2D to 3D to solve different kind of puzzles which are related to platforming and RPG elements in the game, because the game is a... :o 2D/3D platformer/RPG! Something unique!!!Hungry_Homer111
Agreed! The game is one of a kind!!
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#62 goblaa
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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo.ChiefFreeman

But I thought we were talking about Paper mario. At least that's what the topic title says. You should know, it's your topic after all.

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#63 shadow_lord_11
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honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

 

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?  

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what happened to games like Goldeneye or Perfect Dark? Both considered to be 2 of the greatest shooters ever. i want to see something liek that that wil wow me now, like those titles did 7-10 years ago. ChiefFreeman
Again, neither of which had anything to do with Nintendo, outside of the games being on a Ninetendo console. Seriously, do you know what you're talking about?
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#65 Silent_Bob32
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honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

shadow_lord_11
They obviously felt it was worth writing about in detail, as there are many people who are very interested in the game.
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#66 ShakeNBake1491
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No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo.  I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though.  That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman
Put it like this... You have a game like Gundam, and it doesn't sell very well at all. Wouldn't you be pretty reluctant to try to release a sequel to the game? Then you have a game like Grand Theft Auto, and it sells 11 million. I think you would want to build on that and try to release another game that could possibly sell the same or more, based on its reputation. Nintendo's done that, they released new franchises as well, confident that their brand name can carry the game. Seems to be working so far.
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what happened to games like Goldeneye or Perfect Dark? Both considered to be 2 of the greatest shooters ever. i want to see something liek that that wil wow me now, like those titles did 7-10 years ago. ChiefFreeman
Not made by Nintendo. Plus, Metroid Prime 3 is coming out if you're only interested in shooters. I can't believe you are insulting the graphics of one of the moist stunning games this generation has yet seen (SPM)... that's just weird. And in terms of gameplay, this game is utterly unlike anything that has ever come before - it is the very definition of next-gen!
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Nintendo rides the coattails of its past success. Do something new like Microsoft did when they created a great new franchise (Gears of War). Or like Sony with the upcoming Heavenly Sword. ChiefFreeman
Please stop drooling over your keyboard. Those are not made by MS or Sony. They're just on the system.
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I fail to understand why Gamespot has devoted so much coverage to another Gamecube title that was converted to the Wii.  Big  deal.  A Mario rpg with lackluster graphics, and this time you wave around a wiimote to control him. Wow. Nintendo is just knocking my socks off with these rehashed Gamecube titles.   I'm glad I own an Xbox 360.ChiefFreeman
Because its a good game, who cares where the game started
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#70 Metrovania
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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

Silent_Bob32
They obviously felt it was worth writing about in detail, as there are many people who are very interested in the game.

And they ought to be! It looks incredible! And apparently plays like nothing else.
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]what happened to games like Goldeneye or Perfect Dark? Both considered to be 2 of the greatest shooters ever. i want to see something liek that that wil wow me now, like those titles did 7-10 years ago. Silent_Bob32
Again, neither of which had anything to do with Nintendo, outside of the games being on a Ninetendo console. Seriously, do you know what you're talking about?

It doesn't seem like especially because he seems to be jumping subjects in the thread from Paper Mario to Nintendo and now GoldenEye and Perfect. And he hasn't even acknowledged those that are essentially OWNING him. History lesson, Microsoft bought Rare which developed both of those games.
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#72 luigigreen
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honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

shadow_lord_11
The whole individual chapter thing didn't make sense. They kinda ruined some of the game, so I'd rather not read it. But, it still doesn't stop me from being pumped for this game.
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo. I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though. That game looks really cool.ShakeNBake1491
Put it like this... You have a game like Gundam, and it doesn't sell very well at all. Wouldn't you be pretty reluctant to try to release a sequel to the game? Then you have a game like Grand Theft Auto, and it sells 11 million. I think you would want to build on that and try to release another game that could possibly sell the same or more, based on its reputation. Nintendo's done that, they released new franchises as well, confident that their brand name can carry the game. Seems to be working so far.

Yet they don't update the visuals considerably. There's nothing groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either. It's totally not suited for it. Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something? That isn't immersive. They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

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#74 shadow_lord_11
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[QUOTE="Silent_Bob32"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

 

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

Metrovania
They obviously felt it was worth writing about in detail, as there are many people who are very interested in the game.

And they ought to be! It looks incredible! And apparently plays like nothing else.

they should give it a AA score and then i can laugh at them and the sheep.
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Do you even know the control scheme?
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#76 shadow_lord_11
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[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

 

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

luigigreen

The whole individual chapter thing didn't make sense. They kinda ruined some of the game, so I'd rather not read it. But, it still doesn't stop me from being pumped for this game.

thats the only game i have ever seen them do something like that for.

 

they must be giving it a 10/10 :| 

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[QUOTE="ShakeNBake1491"][QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo. I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though. That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman

Put it like this... You have a game like Gundam, and it doesn't sell very well at all. Wouldn't you be pretty reluctant to try to release a sequel to the game? Then you have a game like Grand Theft Auto, and it sells 11 million. I think you would want to build on that and try to release another game that could possibly sell the same or more, based on its reputation. Nintendo's done that, they released new franchises as well, confident that their brand name can carry the game. Seems to be working so far.

Yet they don't update the visuals considerably. There;s nothnig groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either. It;s totally not suited for it. Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something? That isn't immersive. They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

None of the Nintendo made games are filler. Almost all of them are quality games. Stop posting your flawed opnions. Just because you don't like the idea of the game, doesn't make it "filler."
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[QUOTE="ShakeNBake1491"][QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo. I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though. That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman

Put it like this... You have a game like Gundam, and it doesn't sell very well at all. Wouldn't you be pretty reluctant to try to release a sequel to the game? Then you have a game like Grand Theft Auto, and it sells 11 million. I think you would want to build on that and try to release another game that could possibly sell the same or more, based on its reputation. Nintendo's done that, they released new franchises as well, confident that their brand name can carry the game. Seems to be working so far.

Yet they don't update the visuals considerably. There;s nothnig groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either. It;s totally not suited for it. Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something? That isn't immersive. They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

You don't know anything about the game. Period. You don't move the Wiimote to control the character, you hold it sideways, like an NES controller. Also, what does updating visuals have to do with anything? As long as the gameplay is updated and new, that's all that matters.
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Because Paper Mario games kickass?
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Yet they don't update the visuals considerably.  There;s nothnig groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either.  It;s totally not suited for it.  Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something?  That isn't immersive.  They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

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Are you trying to tell me that you want a game like this...  To look like this?....
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its PAPER MARIO, would you expect PAPER MARIO to have photo realism?
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Yeah And xbox just likes to steal games, glad i own a wii
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

honestly, i found my self wondering the same thing :?

 

why did they have so many articles on the individual chapters before even reviewing it?

shadow_lord_11

The whole individual chapter thing didn't make sense. They kinda ruined some of the game, so I'd rather not read it. But, it still doesn't stop me from being pumped for this game.

thats the only game i have ever seen them do something like that for.

 

they must be giving it a 10/10 :|

That's what I was thinking too. I think we can expect SPM to get a 9.5+ if not a full 10....it sure has been a while. 

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[QUOTE="ShakeNBake1491"][QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]No, I'm speaking about the same old boring Nintendo. I give them credit for Ninja gaiden Ds though. That game looks really cool.ChiefFreeman

Put it like this... You have a game like Gundam, and it doesn't sell very well at all. Wouldn't you be pretty reluctant to try to release a sequel to the game? Then you have a game like Grand Theft Auto, and it sells 11 million. I think you would want to build on that and try to release another game that could possibly sell the same or more, based on its reputation. Nintendo's done that, they released new franchises as well, confident that their brand name can carry the game. Seems to be working so far.

Yet they don't update the visuals considerably.  There;s nothnig groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either.  It;s totally not suited for it.  Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something?  That isn't immersive.  They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

Have you played it yet? No, none of us have. Furthermore, why the hell are you doing all of this, you're certainly not succeeding and it doesn't seem like you have any interest in the game and the Wii in general. Stop claiming things you know little about and trying to make your opinion seem like fact.
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I think we can expect SPM to get a 9.5+ if not a full 10....it sure has been a while.goblaa
Let's not go crazy. The game won't be perfect.
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]

Yet they don't update the visuals considerably. There;s nothnig groundbreaking about using a wiimote for this game either. It;s totally not suited for it. Why would you need to wave a wiimote around to make a 2-d character do something? That isn't immersive. They're just trying to stock their library with filler.

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Are you trying to tell me that you want a game like this...  To look like this?....

No, only the second one can be visually appealing. :roll:
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What else would you look forward to? Exactly.
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#88 ChiefFreeman
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game.  Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.
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Super Paper Mario isn't an RPG, it's a platformer.
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game. Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman
little do you know I Paper mario is a much more beautiful game than gears. I mean do you honestly find Marcus beautiful ( well if you do have a crush on marcus thats your right its a free country) sure he photorealistic but I wouldnt call it beautiful
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game. Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman

I wasn't aware that Nintendo's sole buisness was to make games that appeal to you personally and no one else. You should send them an email so they can get right on that. 

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#92 ShakeNBake1491
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game.  Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman
You act like Nintendo's only franchise is Mario and Pokemon. Are you really that much in the dark?
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Heavenly Sword started out as a Xbox game and nobody seems to care. Two Human started out as a PS1 game, then a gamecube game and nobody cares. So why are people complaining about Super Paper Mario going from gamecube to Wii. Hell it didn't stop Eternal Darkness from going AAA.
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#94 axt113
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game.  Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman
Mario appeals to more people
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#95 goblaa
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Super Paper Mario isn't an RPG, it's a platformer.TyrantDragon55

Actually it's both. :) 

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there's nothing "next gen" about it though. ChiefFreeman
Why?? Because it doesn't have your Gears of War graphics?
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game. Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman
Next, why doesn't McDonald's drop Ronald Mcdonald? Or disney drop mickey? They've been around too long and appeal too children only. :roll:
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well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game.  Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.ChiefFreeman
Oh, shut up already. Just leave now. If you've actually played a game from Nintendo then you'll know that each and every game they develop is of top quality and loaded with fun. Haven't you eve played a Mario game? The world is called Mushroom Kingdom, it's what makes it Mario. Would you rather Mario be some random gun wielding guy with no personality placed in a huge hi-tech city full of no names to blast away?
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#99 ChiefFreeman
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why no Rainbow Six Wii?
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#100 footballstar07
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[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"]well if Nintendo is all about "fun", then they should use some of their creativity and combine it with a beautiful looking game. Something without mushrooms or silly little childish characters.Flamepheonix
little do you know I Paper mario is a much more beautiful game than gears. I mean do you honestly find Marcus beautiful ( well if you do have a crush on marcus thats your right its a free country) sure he photorealistic but I wouldnt call it beautiful

yeah hes right paper mario does look more of a beautiful game them gears. Besides they don't need to make a game with great graphics, if u haven't noticed millions of people like how the graphics are. Nintendo is focusing on how fun the game is so they won't be modifying the game to impress the likes of you.