Why has Blu-Ray been skipped with PC gaming?

um bluray space is mostly usualy used for graphic space and pc dont need that much to reach 1080p since the screen is small usually. prob gonna be a while till we see thatzeldow

um bluray space is mostly usualy used for graphic space and pc dont need that much to reach 1080p since the screen is small usually. prob gonna be a while till we see thatzeldow

Digital Download is fine for me, I get 1.25 Mbps download from them.

wait............Rage is gonna be 50GB???????????? wut?

Simple answer? Cost. Blu-ray production costs far more than DVD production. With most PC games going with a digital distribution over a retail, there is no reason to move to blu-ray production.

Most game today can fit on 1-2 DVDs. For a PC game this is fine as you just install it to a harddrive. Harddrives today are the cheapest per GB of storage space ever. I've seen 2 terabyte drives for 100 dollars. That's stupidly cheap.

Blu-rays have proven to be the next disk format for media, but for games they are not as important. Most games can fit on a single DVD, even with extremely high quality graphics. It's always nice to have the extra room but not necessary right now.

The logical answer:

I can Dowload a 16 gig game, faster then I can drive to the nearest place that sells games, buy the game, and drive back.

So, To me Blu-Ray was a dead media from the getgo. Too inconvenient, takes up too much space, and I prefer pressing an icon to insall a game, rather then go looking for the disk, Pretty simple, dont you think?

its not to say that I find Blu-Rayuseless alltogether, I can see the use with console games, since the consoles holds less space (on average), and Blu-Ray is allright with Movies in mind (altho they are merely an evolution of the Dvd, not a revolution.

So I think Most PC gamers simply looked at the Blu-Ray when it came out, and saw something that for thier purpose was hopefully outdated? (we are talking about the people who prides themselves with hardware afterall)

Maddie_Larkin

It takes me about 30 min to go to the store and back to buy a game . It would take me hours to download a 16gig game so you must have an extremly high bandwith connection and as a whole BR is a plus for games yes even pc games.

Well they can't guarantee enough people will have Blu-Ray for publishers to release on it.

Also apart from better audio I don't think it will bring much advantages to games on the PC.

Considering PC games are compressed it's easy and cheap to just put them an a few DVD9s.

I personally hope optical media on the PC just dies. It's so slow and inflexible compared to the rest of the PCs components now. I just spent over a day having to mess around with CD-RWs and DVD-RWs doing various jobs and I know I could have done those same jobs in a few hours or less without them. They're just cumbersome now.

Plus when it comes to PCs 50GB isn't that impressive anymore. I just got a 1TB WD External HDD for around £50. Quality HDDs are just so cheap now. And USBs abundant.

When it comes to movies and music out side of the PC, I still like optical media.

Well they can't guarantee enough people will have Blu-Ray for publishers to release on it.

Also apart from better audio I don't think it will bring much advantages to games on the PC.

Considering PC games are compressed it's easy and cheap to just put them an a few DVD9s.

I personally hope optical media on the PC just dies. It's so slow and inflexible compared to the rest of the PCs components now. I just spent over a day having to mess around with CD-RWs and DVD-RWs doing various jobs and I know I could have done those same jobs in a few hours or less without them. They're just cumbersome now.

Plus when it comes to PCs 50GB isn't that impressive anymore. I just got a 1TB WD External HDD for around £50. Quality HDDs are just so cheap now. And USBs abundant.

When it comes to movies and music out side of the PC, I still like optical media.

Darth_DuMas

One day I'm going to explain to my children how I had to insert thin circular objects into my computer in order for it to 'learn' a new task to perform, and they are going to laugh. Kind of like how some game developers in the '70s had to save their game data onto dozens of floppy discs and to reload it they had to insert each disc in a particular order to execute the lines of code that the game ran on. Now we think how primitive that was, then that was simply how it was done.

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Well they can't guarantee enough people will have Blu-Ray for publishers to release on it.

Also apart from better audio I don't think it will bring much advantages to games on the PC.

Considering PC games are compressed it's easy and cheap to just put them an a few DVD9s.

I personally hope optical media on the PC just dies. It's so slow and inflexible compared to the rest of the PCs components now. I just spent over a day having to mess around with CD-RWs and DVD-RWs doing various jobs and I know I could have done those same jobs in a few hours or less without them. They're just cumbersome now.

Plus when it comes to PCs 50GB isn't that impressive anymore. I just got a 1TB WD External HDD for around £50. Quality HDDs are just so cheap now. And USBs abundant.

When it comes to movies and music out side of the PC, I still like optical media.

hypoty

One day I'm going to explain to my children how I had to insert thin circular objects into my computer in order for it to 'learn' a new task to perform, and they are going to laugh. Kind of like how some game developers in the '70s had to save their game data onto dozens of floppy discs and to reload it they had to insert each disc in a particular order to execute the lines of code that the game ran on. Now we think how primitive that was, then that was simply how it was done.

lol

Ahh the days of inserting 6 plus floppy discs and 50MB hdd. A CD ROM was mind blowing back then. :P

I remember when MGS2 Substance was released on PC Windows people complained a lot because it was only available in DVD and that left a lot of people out at start... This was in 2003. PC is always slow on catching up on the latest media, like Nintendo ;) So maybe in a few (like 5) more years.Kane04

or completely skip something uneccesary like Blue Ray when DLC and Steam does better for PC gaming.

isn't that becoming a major component for PC sales including dvd game retail?

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

a blu ray disc costs 70 cents to press

dontshackzmii

Which is still more than a DVD.. it adds up when you make a million copies.

blu ray has 5 times the space witch means you need less of them witch adds up .

Its one of the things where everyone went "Omg its super cool its going to be THE next big thing and dvd's will die out within the next 2 years!!"

The problem is simply that its a step that aint required. Next step is going 90% DD and then you will probably only be able to order copies of games online.

Its kinda like 3d for the computer. Everyone go on and on about how cool and epic it is and then there is nothing. Soon it will die out (again) also.

PC gaming has always seemed to lead the way in the next step in gaming. But i can't think why PC gamers dont seem to take Blu-Ray into there gaming. I know PC gaming is going digital but still every1 is going to have a Blu-Ray player in the future. Movies, 3d movies and data storage. I got my Blu-Ray player/Re-Writer for only £50 off amazon. The id tech 5 engine with the mega textures bs games are going to be 50gb+!!

Exactly....

My download speed sucks, took me 10 hours to get The Witcher which is like 11gb. Should we be asking for Blu-Ray PC games?

I think so.

mattuk69

Wait, you managed to get a blu ray re-writer for £50? :o You got a link? Iv been needing to buy a blu ray rewriter for aaaages!

because Bluray is primarily used in movies. and you know PCs are not the first choice for viewing movies.

that, and majority of the programs in the market do not need Bluray. heck, even MS Windows does not need it. PCs need optical drives for installing applications and programs (not just games)..

add the fact that if anyone really needed storage, there are USB sticks up to 32GBs available in the market, and now we even have external hard drives with USB 3.0 (it only takes less than a minute to copy files up to 7GB).

on the other hand, movies need Bluray. if you want a full-on movie experience in your home, you have to watch it in Bluray given the hi-def era nowadays. DVDs just doesn't cut it. you're better off watching it from Youtube rather that watching a DVD.

Digital Downloads > Any physical medium. If your internet speeds are slow, I feel bad for you, but thats no reason to hold everyone else up. There is no advantage to selling a physical copy of a game over a digital copy.

Because digital is taking over. SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Because digital is taking over. abuabed

Because PC games don't need 50gigs of space, unlike PS3 games only the exclusives which are maxing out blu-ray Yeah they still believe that

[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Because digital is taking over. Engrish_Major

Its not just the higher cost of the discs, its the much higher licencing costs to use b-ray tech. That and with full installs and DD make it not very appealling.

Mainly because most games are usually installed and a DVD suffices in that account. That said, I just watched LOTR trilogy on Blu Ray and I thought it was fantastic in HD.hiphops_savior

p>My download speed sucks, took me 10 hours to get The Witcher which is like 11gb. Should we be asking for Blu-Ray PC games?mattuk69

Couldn't you just get it on dvd? Not like having Blu-ray would be of much help considering the Witcher is actually a 1-dvd game.

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

a blu ray disc costs 70 cents to press

dontshackzmii

Which is still more than a DVD.. it adds up when you make a million copies.

blu ray has 5 times the space witch means you need less of them witch adds up .

It doesn't matter if it is five times the space... 2 DVD's is the most space they will need... And that is cheaper...

whats the point of it...look at wow...it comes on a dvd...but i ended up downloading a large amount of info after installing it...also...with services like steam and gog and d2d...theres really no reason for everyone to have to upgrade to bluray...its costs money to upgrade that u could be using to download ur games...lol

Excuse me, OP, but how long did it take for DVDs to become normal media for PC games?

Then if thats the case digital has always been ruling and has never needed to "take over", if what you say is true then DVD is digital, CD is also digital, oh hell even floppy is digital according to your logic...JohnF111

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

The logical answer:

I can Dowload a 16 gig game, faster then I can drive to the nearest place that sells games, buy the game, and drive back.

So, To me Blu-Ray was a dead media from the getgo. Too inconvenient, takes up too much space, and I prefer pressing an icon to insall a game, rather then go looking for the disk, Pretty simple, dont you think?

its not to say that I find Blu-Rayuseless alltogether, I can see the use with console games, since the consoles holds less space (on average), and Blu-Ray is allright with Movies in mind (altho they are merely an evolution of the Dvd, not a revolution.

So I think Most PC gamers simply looked at the Blu-Ray when it came out, and saw something that for thier purpose was hopefully outdated? (we are talking about the people who prides themselves with hardware afterall)

TheSterls

It takes me about 30 min to go to the store and back to buy a game . It would take me hours to download a 16gig game so you must have an extremly high bandwith connection and as a whole BR is a plus for games yes even pc games.

It's not a plus, it wouldn't help PC gaming in any way... DVD are still plenty fine. Dirt 2 needs 10Gb from Steam, Bluray would be such a waste.

It's not a plus, it wouldn't help PC gaming in any way... DVD are still plenty fine. Dirt 2 needs 10Gb from Steam, Bluray would be such a waste.

Bebi_vegeta

True. Most PC games still only need one DVD and the bigger ones two. A few years ago I remember that the cost per DVD was around 30 something cents and I remember someone mentioning a 70 cent cost for BD, so DVD still works in that way. There is still no need for them, and who knows if there will be, depending of how DD develops. I can only see bluray being useful in consoles because it's running from the disc but even that may change with how HDD use develops on consoles and also DD.

Well they can't guarantee enough people will have Blu-Ray for publishers to release on it.

Also apart from better audio I don't think it will bring much advantages to games on the PC.

Considering PC games are compressed it's easy and cheap to just put them an a few DVD9s.

I personally hope optical media on the PC just dies. It's so slow and inflexible compared to the rest of the PCs components now. I just spent over a day having to mess around with CD-RWs and DVD-RWs doing various jobs and I know I could have done those same jobs in a few hours or less without them. They're just cumbersome now.

Plus when it comes to PCs 50GB isn't that impressive anymore. I just got a 1TB WD External HDD for around £50. Quality HDDs are just so cheap now. And USBs abundant.

When it comes to movies and music out side of the PC, I still like optical media.

Darth_DuMas

I don't think it would bring better audio... most people on PC has a headset... they don't usually have 5.1, never mind 7.1...

FFXIII is better on the PS3 thanks to blu-ray, i'm just saying... :roll:Kane04

A format cannot make a version of a game automatically better or to have better graphics & such. If Blu-Ray helped with the PS3, what about all of those multiplats out there?

Soon pc gamers won't even need optical media for games period. It is all about steam.

Because PCs don't have teh cell.

[QUOTE="abuabed"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Because digital is taking over. Engrish_Major

LOL that's funny. I was thinking the same thing. It's been digital for quite some time now.

pointless because once u install ur pc game to the hdd u no longer need all 10 disk lol if it was.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="abuabed"] Very very true indeed.JohnF111

Digital just means that it's stored as 1's and 0's. You know Digital vs. Analog? Do you remember those VHS casette tapes? Probably not but those were analog. Anything stored as 1's and 0's is digital. So yes even Floppy discs are digital as well.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="abuabed"] Very very true indeed.menes777

LOL that's funny. I was thinking the same thing. It's been digital for quite some time now.

The data on it is obviously digital, but also obviously the medium itself isn't.

Just wait for Doom 4...

Several reasons: 1. Online distribution is becoming more popular which takes pressure away from a disc format switch. 2. Most people still don't have Bluray players on their computers. 3. Blurays are still more expensive than DVDs. 4. The size of the games is still capable of fitting in a few DVDs so there's no practical reason for Bluray still.kuraimen

Nice summary. That probably is all there is to be said.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] Blu-Ray is digital...glez13

LOL that's funny. I was thinking the same thing. It's been digital for quite some time now.

The data on it is obviously digital, but also obviously the medium itself isn't.

The issues comes in when someone says that one is digital and one is not. When they are in fact both digital.

The confusion of course is caused by truncating Digital Download to just Digital. Which technically is correct in terms of what is going on but installing from a DVD or Blu-Ray is also a digital download. You simply are downloading from a phyical media rather then downloading the data from the internet.

The same thing happens when movies include that "Digital copy".