Why I don't like Microsoft as a company

I fully respect the Xbox360 as a console, what i don't like is how it came to be, and why its here. Please take the time to read

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX

This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

tutt3r

When its completely obvious, and its what the company started with. Its different.

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

tutt3r

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="tutt3r"]

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

Person0

This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.Zodetak

Great article sadly it will probably go into deaf ears. I have always thought that an open environment with open standards for game development would be awesome for the PC gaming industry and will strongly push it but PC gamers still think of Microsoft as gods and they keep defending them with all their might not realizing that they are basically the cancer of the computer industry! and they should be erradicated! I never give money to that crap of a company. Thanks for the articlekuraimen

You obviously don't know any PC gamers

I like the stuff they make, so I guess I'm a Microsoft fan. Hell, I bought Win7 Ultimate day one.

Interesting read, but that's what happens and it happens a lot..But to get a proper feel of the situation you need to read from various sources and from both sides of the coin.However I must sidetrack and start a mini rant.....

This line from the article: "It's common geek wisdom that standards-based websites, for instance, trounce Silverlight, Flash, or ActiveX." is incorrect and annoys me. I'm pretty sure the writerwas hinting that HTML based websites are "better" or "beat" websites that use Flash, etc....

There are things you simply can't do in HTML (and even HTML 5) that you can do in Flash or Silverlight...

HTML is a markup language, once the page is loaded that's it, you can't "inject" new code or variables.. With Flash for instance you don't have that problem.

Also, HTML 5 won't allow me to store variables and convert them to numbers, compute on those numbers and then deliver customized responses based on those numbers. HTML 5 won't allow me to program "If...Then" paths based on user feedback and decision making. I mean the lists goes on but you get the point.

/end mini rant

I like the stuff they make, so I guess I'm a Microsoft fan. Hell, I bought Win7 Ultimate day one.

psn8214

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

I like the stuff they make, so I guess I'm a Microsoft fan. Hell, I bought Win7 Ultimate day one.

hexashadow13

I had the Release Candidate installed on my netbook for, like, forever! I love Windows too! :P

[QUOTE="Zodetak"]This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.garrett_daniels

[QUOTE="karasill"]

Interesting read, but that's what happens and it happens a lot..But to get a proper feel of the situation you need to read from various sources and from both sides of the coin.However I must sidetrack and start a mini rant.....

This line from the article: "It's common geek wisdom that standards-based websites, for instance, trounce Silverlight, Flash, or ActiveX." is incorrect and annoys me. I'm pretty sure the writerwas hinting that HTML based websites are "better" or "beat" websites that use Flash, etc....

There are things you simply can't do in HTML (and even HTML 5) that you can do in Flash or Silverlight...

HTML is a markup language, once the page is loaded that's it, you can't "inject" new code or variables.. With Flash for instance you don't have that problem.

Also, HTML 5 won't allow me to store variables and convert them to numbers, compute on those numbers and then deliver customized responses based on those numbers. HTML 5 won't allow me to program "If...Then" paths based on user feedback and decision making. I mean the lists goes on but you get the point.

/end mini rant

I agree.

HTML doesn't even have a basic Grid control. HTML is a document and the commitee has no intention of changing that mentality. Poeple can all go blah about open standard, but, IMO, HTML is the one that slowing everyone's down. Hack, just look at everyone moving away from web browsers, you know people don't want to see another HTML document anymore.

HTML was good, but, not anymore. It was a "legacy" open standard. And legacy = poor, open or not, it is still old and weak.

Interesting read, but that's what happens and it happens a lot..But to get a proper feel of the situation you need to read from various sources and from both sides of the coin.However I must sidetrack and start a mini rant.....

This line from the article: "It's common geek wisdom that standards-based websites, for instance, trounce Silverlight, Flash, or ActiveX." is incorrect and annoys me. I'm pretty sure the writerwas hinting that HTML based websites are "better" or "beat" websites that use Flash, etc....

There are things you simply can't do in HTML (and even HTML 5) that you can do in Flash or Silverlight...

HTML is a markup language, once the page is loaded that's it, you can't "inject" new code or variables.. With Flash for instance you don't have that problem.

Also, HTML 5 won't allow me to store variables and convert them to numbers, compute on those numbers and then deliver customized responses based on those numbers. HTML 5 won't allow me to program "If...Then" paths based on user feedback and decision making. I mean the lists goes on but you get the point.

/end mini rant

karasill

Eh I'm pretty sure you need to store variables and make "if then else" clauses on the fly to do something like this. And no you don't need flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfu4OwjUEI&feature=player_embedded

[QUOTE="yodogpollywog"][QUOTE="luigigreen"] Microsoft Game Studios? magicalclick

[QUOTE="karasill"]

Interesting read, but that's what happens and it happens a lot..But to get a proper feel of the situation you need to read from various sources and from both sides of the coin.However I must sidetrack and start a mini rant.....

This line from the article: "It's common geek wisdom that standards-based websites, for instance, trounce Silverlight, Flash, or ActiveX." is incorrect and annoys me. I'm pretty sure the writerwas hinting that HTML based websites are "better" or "beat" websites that use Flash, etc....

There are things you simply can't do in HTML (and even HTML 5) that you can do in Flash or Silverlight...

HTML is a markup language, once the page is loaded that's it, you can't "inject" new code or variables.. With Flash for instance you don't have that problem.

Also, HTML 5 won't allow me to store variables and convert them to numbers, compute on those numbers and then deliver customized responses based on those numbers. HTML 5 won't allow me to program "If...Then" paths based on user feedback and decision making. I mean the lists goes on but you get the point.

/end mini rant

Eh I'm pretty sure you need to store variables and make "if then else" clauses on the fly to do something like this. And no you don't need flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfu4OwjUEI&feature=player_embedded

I dont understand why MS gets singled out

[QUOTE="yodogpollywog"][QUOTE="magicalclick"] To be fair, MS OWNS, Lion Head, Rare, Forza in house team, and more. And the point of Xbox is not about MS killing its business partners such as EA, Activition, and etc.magicalclick

And obiously people are buying Xbox360 for those exclusive games.

I fully respect the Xbox360 as a console, what i don't like is how it came to be, and why its here. Please take the time to read

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX

This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.

Zodetak

[QUOTE="karasill"]

Interesting read, but that's what happens and it happens a lot..But to get a proper feel of the situation you need to read from various sources and from both sides of the coin.However I must sidetrack and start a mini rant.....

This line from the article: "It's common geek wisdom that standards-based websites, for instance, trounce Silverlight, Flash, or ActiveX." is incorrect and annoys me. I'm pretty sure the writerwas hinting that HTML based websites are "better" or "beat" websites that use Flash, etc....

There are things you simply can't do in HTML (and even HTML 5) that you can do in Flash or Silverlight...

HTML is a markup language, once the page is loaded that's it, you can't "inject" new code or variables.. With Flash for instance you don't have that problem.

Also, HTML 5 won't allow me to store variables and convert them to numbers, compute on those numbers and then deliver customized responses based on those numbers. HTML 5 won't allow me to program "If...Then" paths based on user feedback and decision making. I mean the lists goes on but you get the point.

/end mini rant

Eh I'm pretty sure you need to store variables and make "if then else" clauses on the fly to do something like this. And no you don't need flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfu4OwjUEI&feature=player_embedded

[QUOTE="Zodetak"]

I fully respect the Xbox360 as a console, what i don't like is how it came to be, and why its here. Please take the time to read

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX

This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.

Kokuro_Kun

If MS does nothing for the industry than Sony sure doesnt

I dont understand why MS gets singled out

gamer-adam1

i only use products that don't harm anyone in any way. that's why i'm in this cave with no electricty, running water food or clothing.

seriously the only way this message even got on this site is i bought carbon offsets for my smoke signals.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Eh I'm pretty sure you need to store variables and make "if then else" clauses on the fly to do something like this. And no you don't need flash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyfu4OwjUEI&feature=player_embedded

kuraimen

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

I dont understand why MS gets singled out

kuraimen

In one way or another all major companys are the same, everyone wants to control the market because it gets them more money. MS is no different from Sony, Google, ISP providers, Cell Phone providers, Facebook, Twitter, and the list goes no

I dont understand why MS gets singled out

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="karasill"] HTML 5 is not a real language. And no you can't just make code on the fly or request new code. HTML doesn't work like that. If that game were made in Flash it would have been better, considering Flash now has access to your computer's GPU. Also, does that game run on other browsers? karasill

I dont understand why MS gets singled out

[QUOTE="karasill"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] HMTL5 is in its infancy I'm pretty sure it will catch up and surpass flash in no time. The game works in Chrome, Safari and Firefox 4 now.kuraimen

I don't understand why people don't realize every major company does this

tutt3r

Im guessing the TC Owns a PS3 or Wii and does not have enough money to buy a xbox360. So he rants about how much he hates microsoft.

I fully respect the Xbox360 as a console, what i don't like is how it came to be, and why its here. Please take the time to read

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX

This article shows microsofts business strategies and propaganda. I know it wraps around directx and opengl, but if you read the entire thing you'll understand the cycles that microsoft uses.

Zodetak