Why I Gladly Pay 5 Bucks A Month For XBL

[QUOTE="shawn7324"][QUOTE="opex07"] There's a monthly plan, a three month plan. and an annual plan, I believe this has always been the case.Greyfeld

So it's okay because everyone else is doing it?

BPoole96

but one thing i dont understand is that MS usually has FREE weekends. They are free because of advertising. But, theres always ADs on the dashboard so why cant the same "free-ness" be applied throughout :?Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]but one thing i dont understand is that MS usually has FREE weekends. They are free because of advertising. But, theres always ADs on the dashboard so why cant the same "free-ness" be applied throughout :?Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]but one thing i dont understand is that MS usually has FREE weekends. They are free because of advertising. But, theres always ADs on the dashboard so why cant the same "free-ness" be applied throughout :?Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]but one thing i dont understand is that MS usually has FREE weekends. They are free because of advertising. But, theres always ADs on the dashboard so why cant the same "free-ness" be applied throughout :?Tjeremiah1988

We don't have any insight into their advertising business model.

Maybe free weekend sponsorship is much more expensive than a dashboard ad buy.

Your question is better directed toward Microsoft directly.

I gladly pay my 5 bucks a month, also known as 16 cents a day. As a matter of fact, by bending over and picking up change throughout the month, it basically pays for itself! But not only that. The real benefit of my $5 a month is the fact that everyone else I play with is paying 5 bucks a month. I am one of 15-20 MILLION people paying that fee. That is over $1B a year in extra revenue for Microsoft and through the overall better service of XBL, I along with every other 360 online gamer, most definitely see my return.

shadow8585

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]but one thing i dont understand is that MS usually has FREE weekends. They are free because of advertising. But, theres always ADs on the dashboard so why cant the same "free-ness" be applied throughout :?yoyo462001

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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] anyone can input?Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"]During launches of systems very often the first few will get the free gifts with the console ie. at the PS3 launch, in the UK, people got free HDTV's, under your logic they should give HDTV's to every single person that buys a PS3...

yoyo462001

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] That makes little sense. Live was around way before it started using ads. His point is that if you're paying for a service and they show you ads, why aren't the revenues from the ads paying for live instead of you? Your analogy doesn't fit well here.Tjeremiah1988

"by bending over and picking up change throughout the month....."

I LOL'd. Why did you emphasize "bending over"?

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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]Well actually the big problem here is that hes assuming those ads pay for live in that free weekend, which he has no proof of not does anyone without the business models and accounts of MS know. My analogy works as well as showing that just because something is free for some time doesn't mean it should be free forever regardless of other variables such as advertisement.yoyo462001

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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"]Well actually the big problem here is that hes assuming those ads pay for live in that free weekend, which he has no proof of not does anyone without the business models and accounts of MS know. My analogy works as well as showing that just because something is free for some time doesn't mean it should be free forever regardless of other variables such as advertisement.yoyo462001

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] Live free weekends are infact free because of sponsors, advertisement such as Verizon, Toyota, etc.

Zero_epyon

Unlike you im not going to comment (or make an uninformed conclusion) on NASCAR drivers ads, want to know why? Because i dont have adequate information to start making judgments on them, but for some reason you feel you have perfect information to an extent where you can judge each scenario perfectly.

Do you not see how stupid claiming things, which you have no (or extremely little) information about, is? Can you please tell me why you think YOU, a SW poster, understand perfectly the ALL the contractual arrangements + business models used by MS?

[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] Live free weekends are infact free because of sponsors, advertisement such as Verizon, Toyota, etc.

Zero_epyon

Why is it so hard to admit that you don't know? I certainly don't.

Maybe the NASCAR drivers are putting the ads on their cars because they think they're pretty. Or maybe they barter the add for a discount on parts/supplies. Or maybe the advertiser fronts transportation or logding costs. Maybe the advertiser is an old family friend. There's just no way of knowing other than asking them directly.

You can guess all you want, but it's still only a guess.

Why would you bring this up, this is such a tired argument. It gets no where.

I would gladly pay $0 a month for XBL.

Guys! Lets keep analysing the cost even though it's an annual cost at any rate rate...

Wait... Let me take some notes here; how much did you say it was a nanosecond? That totally makes a difference to the £40 price tag :|

For the last time, you pay the full price, and until they let you pay for a micro seconds worth of XBL it is still £40 a year or X amount for Y amount of months.

I gladly pay my 5 bucks a month, also known as 16 cents a day. As a matter of fact, by bending over and picking up change throughout the month, it basically pays for itself! But not only that. The real benefit of my $5 a month is the fact that everyone else I play with is paying 5 bucks a month. I am one of 15-20 MILLION people paying that fee. That is over $1B a year in extra revenue for Microsoft and through the overall better service of XBL, I along with every other 360 online gamer, most definitely see my return.

shadow8585

So the real benefit of paying $5 is that everyone else does so, hence gaining MS a huge profit?

Well, I suppose it is a benefit. just not for you.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"]Without actually seeing the contracts for the ads or knowing their business models i find it hard for any of us to determine that the amount received in those periods is identical all year or to understand how it works. VoodooHak

Why is it so hard to admit that you don't know? I certainly don't.

Maybe the NASCAR drivers are putting the ads on their cars because they think they're pretty. Or maybe they barter the add for a discount on parts/supplies. Or maybe the advertiser fronts transportation or logding costs. Maybe the advertiser is an old family friend. There's just no way of knowing other than asking them directly.

You can guess all you want, but it's still only a guess.

Guys! Lets keep analysing the cost even though it's an annual cost at any rate rate...

Wait... Let me take some notes here; how much did you say it was a nanosecond? That totally makes a difference to the £40 price tag :|

For the last time, you pay the full price, and until they let you pay for a micro seconds worth of XBL it is still £40 a year or X amount for Y amount of months.

Leejjohno

i did some checking i havnt found a monthly plan but you can pay a premium for a 3 month stint its like $20 which means yearly thats $80

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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Wait so that means without us seeing contracts for sponsors we can't ever know if they're paying for it? So that means Nascar Drivers could be putting those ads on their cars for free and paying for all of those things out of their own pocket? Now you're just grasping. You really like MS don't you?Zero_epyon

Why is it so hard to admit that you don't know? I certainly don't.

Maybe the NASCAR drivers are putting the ads on their cars because they think they're pretty. Or maybe they barter the add for a discount on parts/supplies. Or maybe the advertiser fronts transportation or logding costs. Maybe the advertiser is an old family friend. There's just no way of knowing other than asking them directly.

You can guess all you want, but it's still only a guess.

Of course not. But I am curious to see what part you're actually focusing on. I highlighted the important parts for you just in case.

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Lol... The service is marginable better than PSN if that.Birdy09

Seriously....are u plaing the same PSN as I do. Live is more advanced in huge ways.

Maybe it's different for other countries, but I get Zunce HD, Last FM, Netflix (w/out disc), cross chat, 1vs.100, twitter, facebook(the better version), and it's easier to use in my opnion.

I'm not bashing the PS3, I think it's amazing and I play a lot of it. It's just PSN is free, which is nice, but there is a noticeable difference between the two services. They're alike in many ways, but the LIVE versions definitely take the cake.

People bash me for this, but the 360 is the best online console on the market (excluding pc)

I gladly pay my 5 bucks a month, also known as 16 cents a day. As a matter of fact, by bending over and picking up change throughout the month, it basically pays for itself! But not only that. The real benefit of my $5 a month is the fact that everyone else I play with is paying 5 bucks a month. I am one of 15-20 MILLION people paying that fee. That is over $1B a year in extra revenue for Microsoft and through the overall better service of XBL, I along with every other 360 online gamer, most definitely see my return.

shadow8585

I got dirt for sale. You wanna buy it?

i gladly pay 0$ a month for psn, because it's free when i don't use and still free when i use it

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]

I gladly pay my 5 bucks a month, also known as 16 cents a day. As a matter of fact, by bending over and picking up change throughout the month, it basically pays for itself! But not only that. The real benefit of my $5 a month is the fact that everyone else I play with is paying 5 bucks a month. I am one of 15-20 MILLION people paying that fee. That is over $1B a year in extra revenue for Microsoft and through the overall better service of XBL, I along with every other 360 online gamer, most definitely see my return.

patriots7672

I got dirt for sale. You wanna buy it?

I think the best part about paying the $0.96 per week for XBL is that I don't have to play with whiners. I mean do we see that there are people in here who are not paying for the service and still b*&ching? If you like your PS3 so much then get a topic on why you like playing for free on PSN! Because by jumping in on these topics you are screaming "closet Xbox lover". Just cause mommy won't pay for your jobless a$$ to sit in the basement and play XBL, don't hate on us employed people who enjoy spending our money on whatever we choose. I own both and you can read what I truly think about Console Wars on my blog. But it would be nice to be able to talk about a topic without flamers and fanboys ruining it with back and forth whining over who has the better console. If you were stuck somewhere with the oppositeconsole you would be playing the hell out of it! Lie to me, lie to your friends, but you can't lie to yourselves!

Actually lots of people buy dirt for things like gardens, lawns etc..opex07

well tbf though they buy screened top soil which is neccessary on the east coast if you ever want anyhing to grow since our dirt is full of rocks.

I think the best part about paying the $0.96 per week for XBL is that I don't have to play with whiners.

MeikoTevko

I dont mind paying a fee. I get a great online service that i get to play with all my real life friends. And its not even 5 bucks. I think if you pay for a full year. And get the 12+1 subscription plan. Its more like $3.84. Which is seriously nothing compared to what i pay for other subscription plans.(like directv, xm radio, zuen pass)

of course 360 users should pay because there are too many free riders in 360 who mod their console.

it's just a compensation for Microsoft, you gotta cover MS's loss from pirvacy.

oajlu

I agree TC and im a Cow, look, we gamers can fork over hundreds for consoles and $60 per game but we cant find $5 a month? My ***. Twig978

I keep seeing this "milk" terminology being strewn about. What is with this milking business. I see MS charging me money for a service that I feel is a decent price. And they continue to do things like add free content, along with a positive effort to make the all around gaming experience richer. I can chat with all my friends and family anytime no matter where they are, while we all enjoy doing our own thing. No trying to play a FPS while clutching a phone to my ear. Or having to wait to get in on a game with friends. I just fire up a party and start rocking whatever I feel like playing.I get tojump online and play with devs and other people that I couldn't before. Cool contests, games, movies, music, news, cartoons, along with arcade and games on demand! I am paying for this service. Milked is what stations and cable companies do to customers. They charge you more and more for the same service.

When MS starts charging me more and more for this service is when I feel I would have to make a stand, but until then I do not expect anyone to give away a service worth anything for free! You don't get your internet for free do you? What about your home and/or cell phone? Hell even Game Spot has a pay service available!

:D

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

Seriously....are u plaing the same PSN as I do. Live is more advanced in huge ways.

Squall18

Maybe it's different for other countries, but I get Zunce HD, Last FM, Netflix (w/out disc), cross chat, 1vs.100, twitter, facebook(the better version), and it's easier to use in my opnion.

I'm not bashing the PS3, I think it's amazing and I play a lot of it. It's just PSN is free, which is nice, but there is a noticeable difference between the two services. They're alike in many ways, but the LIVE versions definitely take the cake.

People bash me for this, but the 360 is the best online console on the market (excluding pc)

All stuff thats bolded doesint improve my online gaming experiance. Its just fluff. Its like asking for whipcream on my pie,but the person says that will be 50 dollars extra. Like I said before I agree live is better,but just by a bit. Mainly cause cross,party voice chat.

I gladly pay my 5 bucks a month, also known as 16 cents a day. As a matter of fact, by bending over and picking up change throughout the month, it basically pays for itself! But not only that. The real benefit of my $5 a month is the fact that everyone else I play with is paying 5 bucks a month. I am one of 15-20 MILLION people paying that fee. That is over $1B a year in extra revenue for Microsoft and through the overall better service of XBL, I along with every other 360 online gamer, most definitely see my return.

shadow8585