why is everyone hypeing Kill Zone 2?(Poll)

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#51 espoac
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As said before the shooting in Killzone 2 just looks really satisfying. Everything in the game has such weight and therefore the shooting-itself seems like it'll be extremely fun; something that Gears of War for all its meat-headed machismo can't quite do.
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#52 Lidve
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Linear has nothing to do with graphics. Graphics include the following: character models, lighting, post processing effects, textures, animations, particle and other various effects. KZ2 has it allTREAL_Since

So does every other game

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#53 rebel1423
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I call AA. bookmark it.:D
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#54 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Killzone 2 is not striving for realism. Most games do not. Neither do most movies. They go for a more interesting "hyper-reality". Sometimes called hyper-stylized.Lidve

More interesting? I dont think so.

More interesting to the general public. Better?

General public find Britney Spears best singer ever

You are a few years old with that.

And what I am meaning is:

Realistic: John McClane dies within 5 minutes of Die Hard

Hyper-realistic: John McClane saves the day

Realistic: Marcus Fenix is decimated within a few seconds of the first emergence hole.

Hyper-realistic: Marcus can run through hordes of Locusts with a chainsaw gun.

Very few movies and games, especially in the action genre that are not based on real wars, are very realistic, and that is the way most people prefer it.

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#55 spencer_119
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i enjoyed the first one and I hope to enjoy number 2
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#56 MotoJ19
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You know whats realistic, COD4 on veteran, jesus.

anyways.

I'd say KZ2 is a good looking game, but it's not graphically defining, and yeah it really does use motion blur in an ugly motorstorm kind of way. It looks good, better than COD4 but its not genre defining. I'm hyping it AA simply because everyone shows those gifs around, and looking at the videoes, It just feels repetitive because honestly, to make a shooter AAA it has to be more than just shooting (good example of a AAA shooter is the Half life series, they went beyond the shooting) I personally would give Halo 3 a high AA because of it's excellent presentation and multiplayer, so no i dont think it's an AAA title in my books.

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#57 StealthKnife
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dude, r u serious, that game is going to be intence!
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[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]You're wrong KZ2 will be AAAE,the game wipes the floor with crysis and gears or any other game coming...you're just jealous and this time the game wont flop i dont know whats the problem with the original KZ i enjoyed the game,or is because ur pc and xbox360 dont have good looking games like KZ2?Lidve

You are right we dont have anything bether :roll:

Now go play KZ2 oh wait - its not released yet

Until then,i will enjoy my 1 year old best looking game ever + many other EXCLUSIVE games that you can only dream of

Gears has long been replaced as the best looking game a year ago... welcome to Uncharted. Second, PS3'ers aren't really dreaming of any 360 exclusives. The 360 has been a pretty slow system in the last year. Gears 2 looks great, but KZ2 still looks better. Almost any preview you read (and particularly 1UP's podcast which is composed mostly of 360 fanboys) agree that Killzone 2 is still the best looking console game they've seen to date. The online announcements for KZ2 seem pretty awesome... not sure how the single player gameplay will stack up against Resistance 2 or Gears 2 though.

And for those that think it looks like COD4, you're blind or have a really bad pc monitor. KZ2 is much smoother, has the most incredible lighting to date, and the best animations seen so far. Once again, I was skeptical on the gameplay until reading about the online... but the graphics have never been in question.

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#59 MotoJ19
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

[QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]You're wrong KZ2 will be AAAE,the game wipes the floor with crysis and gears or any other game coming...you're just jealous and this time the game wont flop i dont know whats the problem with the original KZ i enjoyed the game,or is because ur pc and xbox360 dont have good looking games like KZ2?haze_blaze

You are right we dont have anything bether :roll:

Now go play KZ2 oh wait - its not released yet

Until then,i will enjoy my 1 year old best looking game ever + many other EXCLUSIVE games that you can only dream of

Gears has long been replaced as the best looking game a year ago... welcome to Uncharted. Second, PS3'ers aren't really dreaming of any 360 exclusives. The 360 has been a pretty slow system in the last year. Gears 2 looks great, but KZ2 still looks better. Almost any preview you read (and particularly 1UP's podcast which is composed mostly of 360 fanboys) agree that Killzone 2 is still the best looking console game they've seen to date. The online announcements for KZ2 seem pretty awesome... not sure how the single player gameplay will stack up against Resistance 2 or Gears 2 though.

And for those that think it looks like COD4, you're blind or have a really bad pc monitor. KZ2 is much smoother, has the most incredible lighting to date, and the best animations seen so far. Once again, I was skeptical on the gameplay until reading about the online... but the graphics have never been in question.

Except Uncharted was alright, and Gears was a massive seller.

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#60 haze_blaze
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You know whats realistic, COD4 on veteran, jesus.

anyways.

I'd say KZ2 is a good looking game, but it's not graphically defining, and yeah it really does use motion blur in an ugly motorstorm kind of way. It looks good, better than COD4 but its not genre defining. I'm hyping it AA simply because everyone shows those gifs around, and looking at the videoes, It just feels repetitive because honestly, to make a shooter AAA it has to be more than just shooting (good example of a AAA shooter is the Half life series, they went beyond the shooting) I personally would give Halo 3 a high AA because of it's excellent presentation and multiplayer, so no i dont think it's an AAA title in my books.

MotoJ19

I agree that the Half Life series is probably among the best FPS series... along with Far Cry and Crysis. But as long as ppl still consider COD4 a AAA title then I believe KZ2 will be a AAA title. The single player of COD4 was just as repetitive, and KZ2's at least appears a little more immersive at this point. And the features of KZ2's online will definitely trump COD4... as it should, coming out a year later.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]So exactly what score does a game have to get to live up to the hype we have seen KZ2 get for the last forty-one months since E3 2005? 14 out of 10???TREAL_Since

What hype have we seen? 90% of the threads about KZ2 are graphics threads. People talking about a various aspect of a game doesn't necessarily equate to hyping it as a AAA/AA/A game (that goes for ANY game). Find me some threads where a majority of cows said KZ2 will own Gears 2 or be AA and I will stop talking :). One or two fanboys here and there does not equal a AAA hyping.

But I do think it will be hyped AAA in the end. KZ2's graphics have definitely been hyped AAAA though :lol:

Maybe I'm thinking of hype in a different way that the rest of you.

You know the score here Treal, this game has had anywhere from 2 to 10 hype threads every day and some days even more ever since the May 2005 E3 cgi trailer.

Maybe I'm in the wrong in saying that that ='s huge hype but seriously man in all the time I've hung out here there has never been one other game that has been hyped more or for a longer period of time than KZ2.

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#62 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

What hype have we seen? 90% of the threads about KZ2 are graphics threads. People talking about a various aspect of a game doesn't necessarily equate to hyping it as a AAA/AA/A game (that goes for ANY game). Find me some threads where a majority of cows said KZ2 will own Gears 2 or be AA and I will stop talking :). One or two fanboys here and there does not equal a AAA hyping.

But I do think it will be hyped AAA in the end. KZ2's graphics have definitely been hyped AAAA though :lol:

Riverwolf007

Maybe I'm thinking of hype in a different way that the rest of you.

You know the score here Treal, this game has had anywhere from 2 to 10 hype threads every day and some days even more ever since the May 2005 E3 cgi trailer.

Maybe I'm in the wrong in saying that that ='s huge hype but seriously man in all the time I've hung out here there has never been one other game that has been hyped more or for a longer period of time than KZ2.

I'm on SW everyday whether I'm just browsing or actually posting (I'm sure you are here alot as well). I have never seen 2-10 hype threads EVERY day since E3 2005 :shock:! What System Wars forum are you on? That must be a HUGE exaggeration.

KZ2 is discussed ALOT in SW, but the vast majority of those threads are about the graphics I can guarantee that. Our definitions of hype must be different. Discussing a game's graphics mostly is not hyping the game to be 14 out of 10 score wise. Like I said I think KZ2 will be hyped AAA, but you really are exaggerating it greatly :/.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]Linear has nothing to do with graphics. Graphics include the following: character models, lighting, post processing effects, textures, animations, particle and other various effects. KZ2 has it allLidve

So does every other game

Well obviously :)! I'm only pointing out that graphics aren't solely about textures like most people think. KZ2 excels in the majority of the categories I posted.

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#63 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

What hype have we seen? 90% of the threads about KZ2 are graphics threads. People talking about a various aspect of a game doesn't necessarily equate to hyping it as a AAA/AA/A game (that goes for ANY game). Find me some threads where a majority of cows said KZ2 will own Gears 2 or be AA and I will stop talking :). One or two fanboys here and there does not equal a AAA hyping.

But I do think it will be hyped AAA in the end. KZ2's graphics have definitely been hyped AAAA though :lol:

TREAL_Since

Maybe I'm thinking of hype in a different way that the rest of you.

You know the score here Treal, this game has had anywhere from 2 to 10 hype threads every day and some days even more ever since the May 2005 E3 cgi trailer.

Maybe I'm in the wrong in saying that that ='s huge hype but seriously man in all the time I've hung out here there has never been one other game that has been hyped more or for a longer period of time than KZ2.

I'm on SW everyday whether I'm just browsing or actually posting (I'm sure you are here alot as well). I have never seen 2-10 hype threads EVERY day since E3 2005 :shock:! What System Wars forum are you on? That must be a HUGE exaggeration.

KZ2 is discussed ALOT in SW, but the vast majority of those threads are about the graphics I can guarantee that. Our definitions of hype must be different. Discussing a game's graphics mostly is not hyping the game to be 14 out of 10 score wise. Like I said I think KZ2 will be hyped AAA, but you really are exaggerating it greatly :/.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]Linear has nothing to do with graphics. Graphics include the following: character models, lighting, post processing effects, textures, animations, particle and other various effects. KZ2 has it allLidve

So does every other game

Well obviously :)! I'm only pointing out that graphics aren't solely about textures like most people think. KZ2 excels in the majority of the categories I posted.

What about my saying it's the most hyped game ever on SW is that an exaggeration?

Btw, I really don't see how you have not seen all the KZ2 threads I've seen here but peoples perceptions are curious things so it's always a possibility that my biases influence what I'm seeing but for real man I see at least 2 KZ2 threads every single time I'm on here and most of the time it's many more. I seriously didn't think I was exaggerating.

Granted I'm not around much anymore so maybe it's just a coincidence kind of thing.

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#64 sethman410
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="A-LEGEND"]

The problem with KZ2 is that technicallythe game is not impressive AT ALL. the textures are some of the worst (even though most people dont realise that you good textures mean high resolution textures, not pretty ones), terrible AA and its a CORRIDOR shooter. there is not much rendering at all. people fail to use rational logic on this forum.

now, the real problem with KZ2 is its motion blur. its ridiculous amount of motion blur which hides EVERYTHING. The game looks like ass in STILL screens, because of low poly everything, terrible textures, and lack of AA but AMAZING in motion because of the blur. this accomplishes two things. 1. it reveals how stupid and gullible the fans of the game are, and 2. it reveals how brilliant the developers are. The burden for the rest of the generation will be for other companies who release their games with ridiculously more advanced engines such as the UE3.5 (yes that includes gears of war 2 whether you like it or not), to actually convince these brainwashed fools that no KZ2 doesn't come close to many other games technically even though it looks BEST to the EYE.

A-LEGEND

Motion blur does not hide everything in the videos (maybe screen buffers which also washes out texture detail). How can you say that KZ2 is not technically impressive? Are you serious? I'm guessing you haven't seen any previous builds :?.

Try spinning around really fast in real life. There will be motion blur :).

I am absolutely serious that KZ2 is NOT technicaly impressive. and stop with the excuses that maybe its screen buffers. idiot. Its brainwashed people like you that other developpers who will be releasing games even BEFORE KZ2 will have trouble convincing of anything even if they waved it in your foolish faces. KZ2 may look pretty to your eyes, but its not when you look at the technology.

well wow? if it looks pretty good in your eyes, why not be technicaly impressive. Who cares what they done with the technology just as long as it looks pretty good in your eyes ok? so your the one being an idiot.

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#65 ElectronicMagic
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I disagree, I think Killzone 2 looks great. I loved the first one, so that's why I was originally interested in Killzone 2. But it all looks really well done and the first person cover system is something I've been wanting to see in an FPS for awhile now.
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#66 InsaneBasura
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A mix of don't care and don't agree here. If you think the shooting looks bad you're just plain wrong. That's one thing these people have always been able to convey, a sense of physicality, things just look and feel right. A bit like Gears of War, it feels like things have weight and momentum to them. The AI seems ok from what I've seen.
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#67 DontBeHatin1983
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I personally think the game dosen't look very good at this point. The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all. and the graphics and AI also seem to be lacking. And really why are the graphics being praised so much? They look good but I really don't think they are at the same level as "mind blowing" like gears of war whch game out 2 years ago on consles.

Not to mention we are all hypeing a sequel to a game which flopped pretty badly:o.

does anyone else agree with me here?

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the only people that are hyping KZ2 are x360 fanboys by saying how bad the game looks, that gears is better and so on. nobody talked about KZ2 for weeks until xbox fanboys went crazy about the textures or blur in the game. so the question should be Why do xbox fanboys hate this game so much?

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#68 Lionheart08
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Quite frankly, most of the hype for this game has been for the graphics alone. It's switched between AAA and AA.
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#69 Ignee
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Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

The-Big-Easy

That part of your post was a very big fail.

those 2 are amazing. TC fails.

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[QUOTE="A-LEGEND"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="A-LEGEND"]

The problem with KZ2 is that technicallythe game is not impressive AT ALL. the textures are some of the worst (even though most people dont realise that you good textures mean high resolution textures, not pretty ones), terrible AA and its a CORRIDOR shooter. there is not much rendering at all. people fail to use rational logic on this forum.

now, the real problem with KZ2 is its motion blur. its ridiculous amount of motion blur which hides EVERYTHING. The game looks like ass in STILL screens, because of low poly everything, terrible textures, and lack of AA but AMAZING in motion because of the blur. this accomplishes two things. 1. it reveals how stupid and gullible the fans of the game are, and 2. it reveals how brilliant the developers are. The burden for the rest of the generation will be for other companies who release their games with ridiculously more advanced engines such as the UE3.5 (yes that includes gears of war 2 whether you like it or not), to actually convince these brainwashed fools that no KZ2 doesn't come close to many other games technically even though it looks BEST to the EYE.

sethman410

Motion blur does not hide everything in the videos (maybe screen buffers which also washes out texture detail). How can you say that KZ2 is not technically impressive? Are you serious? I'm guessing you haven't seen any previous builds :?.

Try spinning around really fast in real life. There will be motion blur :).

I am absolutely serious that KZ2 is NOT technicaly impressive. and stop with the excuses that maybe its screen buffers. idiot. Its brainwashed people like you that other developpers who will be releasing games even BEFORE KZ2 will have trouble convincing of anything even if they waved it in your foolish faces. KZ2 may look pretty to your eyes, but its not when you look at the technology.

well wow? if it looks pretty good in your eyes, why not be technicaly impressive. Who cares what they done with the technology just as long as it looks pretty good in your eyes ok? so your the one being an idiot.

your both being idiots. the skill of the developers to use art style and subtle effects to enhance the games appearance IS just that. the talent of developers. thats exactly whats wrong with you fanboys from day one. your ignorant, you dont understand anything, your young, and you think that whatever you see is the the truth and nothing but. you all need to come back to reality where looking good dos not equal technology. KZ2 is a prime example. and to the earlier poster. thank you for taking the bait. nobody here is 12 years old. now i know that your willing to freak out over that and project your real incompetence. didnt i SAY that KZ2 has amazing animations? why the entire large post with the only thing talking about was the animations? i repeat. your an idiot.

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#71 A-LEGEND
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I personally think the game dosen't look very good at this point. The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all. and the graphics and AI also seem to be lacking. And really why are the graphics being praised so much? They look good but I really don't think they are at the same level as "mind blowing" like gears of war whch game out 2 years ago on consles.

Not to mention we are all hypeing a sequel to a game which flopped pretty badly:o.

does anyone else agree with me here?

DontBeHatin1983

the only people that are hyping KZ2 are x360 fanboys by saying how bad the game looks, that gears is better and so on. nobody talked about KZ2 for weeks until xbox fanboys went crazy about the textures or blur in the game. so the question should be Why do xbox fanboys hate this game so much?

xbox fanboys? where do you live. magical animal land with the lemmings, cows and sheep? EVERYONE hates this game including PS fans, besides the blind ones. why? because as sooon as it was announced they all jumped on the "INSTANT GRAPHIX KING NO MATTER WHAT!!111" band wagon, and the more that agree with it the more they think its true. its like your typical religion. disgusting.

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#72 Erik_Lensherr
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Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

The-Big-Easy

That part of your post was a very big fail.

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

*edit* look at the bottom when he gets shot he does like a dance move when he gets shot :lol:

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#73 gamecubepad
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People are hyping this game because it's the x-factor in Sony's lineup. Most of the hype directly stems from the CGI trailer they showed in 2005. It's also on pace to become the most expensive game ever made, so if it fails, the PS3 fails.
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The reason it has so much hype on this forum is that 75% of the posters here are die-hard PS3 fanboys.
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I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

Erik_Lensherr
If you're gonna keep using that exaggerated excuse to bash it, then you may as well start you own thread with the title, "KZ2 WILL FAILZ CUZ OF TEH BLUR!"
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#76 dark-warmachine
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The poll doesn't make sense with the question. Why is everyone hyping Killzone 2? yes agree, no i dont agree. That doesn't make any sense.
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#77 blushield
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it has good graphics so it must be good!!!
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#78 Erik_Lensherr
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

nervmeister

If you're gonna keep using that exaggerated excuse to bash it, then you may as well start you own thread with the title, "KZ2 WILL FAILZ CUZ OF TEH BLUR!"

An exaggerated excuse,are you seriuous. Quit crying becuase you think this game look good and can't handle the truth. There is no exaggeration. Every single picture has a huge amount of Blur, and I mean literally every single picture. If the blur covers up any sort of detail in the charachter models , then how can the graphics be great, Huh makes sense now , can you understand this concept. Did I say it will fail because of it NO...but it will fail as best looking console game because of it get over. Then people it does what your eyes do, get real now it;s an Eye simulator. Gears 2 has Blur to but guess what it uses it appropriatly Like when your Roadi RUNNING ,and when you slide into cover not when your character looks one inch left or right...get it now ..good.

*edit* so again nervmeister please tell me how I exaggerated this.:roll:

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#79 The-Big-Easy
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[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

Erik_Lensherr

That part of your post was a very big fail.

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

*edit* look at the bottom when he gets shot he does like a dance move when he gets shot :lol:

No detail in the animations? That's the stupidest thing I heard all day, and I've just sat through the Raiders game :evil:

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#80 naruto7777
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it will be alrigt compared to gears 2
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#81 Erik_Lensherr
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

The-Big-Easy

That part of your post was a very big fail.

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

*edit* look at the bottom when he gets shot he does like a dance move when he gets shot :lol:

No detail in the animations? That's the stupidest thing I heard all day, and I've just sat through the Raiders game :evil:

Yeah talk about stupid, NO DETAILS IN THE CHARACHTER MODELS. Were did I say this "No detail in the animations" where, yah talk about stupid.

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#82 TheRealMC01
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It's a first party title that Sony has been advertising with videos and stuff for what, 3 years now? Maybe that's why. I think it's funny that cows used to bash the 360 for being a "shooter console" but now most of the games they hype are FPS.

Aside from some fancy looking videos of a guy getting shot and spinning around 3 times before he falls down, i don't see what looks so good about the game.... unless cows can tell me what kind of MAJOR improvements that this game will have over the first one. (and yes, it will need to have major improvements to match the kind of hype it's getting and avoid another disappointing score).

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#83 The-Big-Easy
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[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

Erik_Lensherr

That part of your post was a very big fail.

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

*edit* look at the bottom when he gets shot he does like a dance move when he gets shot :lol:

No detail in the animations? That's the stupidest thing I heard all day, and I've just sat through the Raiders game :evil:

Yeah talk about stupid, NO DETAILS IN THE CHARACHTER MODELS. Were did I say this "No detail in the animations" where, yah talk about stupid.

Alright, steady on Tiger. You can see detail in the character models in the other gifs. THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE CHARACTER THEREFORE YOU CAN SEE MORE DETAIL. Feeling stupid yet, lem?

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#85 TheRealMC01
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[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

Yeah talk about stupid, NO DETAILS IN THE CHARACHTER MODELS. Were did I say this "No detail in the animations" where, yah talk about stupid.

The-Big-Easy

Alright, steady on Tiger. You can see detail in the character models in the other gifs. THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE CHARACTER THEREFORE YOU CAN SEE MORE DETAIL. Feeling stupid yet, lem?

It's a little hard to tell from those gifs but i honestly don't see a lot of detail. Do you even know what detail is? It doesn't mean how shiny the black/gray metal or clothing is. Even Halo 3 has more detail

Halo 3 Screenshot

Image 15

And if you REALLY want to see the kind of detail he's talking about, look up Mass Effect.

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#86 gamecubepad
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Mostly pertaining to the quote chains...

"WARNING!More than 5 quotes in a post, trolling and posting in an account suicide thread will result in a moderation, and a possible suspension on your account; flaming equals an automatic 7 day suspension."

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#88 Erik_Lensherr
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[[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

nervmeister

If you're gonna keep using that exaggerated excuse to bash it, then you may as well start you own thread with the title, "KZ2 WILL FAILZ CUZ OF TEH BLUR!"

An exaggerated excuse,are you seriuous. Quit crying becuase you think this game look good and can't handle the truth. There is no exaggeration. Every single picture has a huge amount of Blur, and I mean literally every single picture. If the blur covers up any sort of detail in the charachter models , then how can the graphics be great, Huh makes sense now , can you understand this concept. Did I say it will fail because of it NO...but it will fail as best looking console game because of it get over. Then people it does what your eyes do, get real now it;s an Eye simulator. Gears 2 has Blur to but guess what it uses it appropriatly Like when your Roadi RUNNING ,and when you slide into cover not when your character looks one inch left or right...get it now ..good.

*edit* so again nervmeister please tell me how I exaggerated this.:roll:

Well, you're not exaggerating right now.......... Instead, you're lying your ass off.

Where am I lying troll..way to back that up.

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#89 abuabed
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TC, it is very stupid to say that KZ1 was a flop so why are we hyping KZ2?? this doesn't make any sense because there are many other games that started with a flop or two and then they become very popular and successful. I like KZ2 for many reasons though the game isn't out yet like, the cover system for a FPS, online seems very good with the classes and the combinations available (I'm gonna be a sniper :) ), no one can deny that KZ2 has fantastic graphics, shooting looks unique if you ask me in this game, try watching some of the HD trailers in ign. I know the amount of blur is more than your average FPS but it looks great nonetheless. It might become the next graphics king for consoles, who knows? they are still polishing the game and within 4~5 months we might get to see a huge change.
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#90 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"][QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

Erik_Lensherr

If you're gonna keep using that exaggerated excuse to bash it, then you may as well start you own thread with the title, "KZ2 WILL FAILZ CUZ OF TEH BLUR!"

An exaggerated excuse,are you seriuous. Quit crying becuase you think this game look good and can't handle the truth.There is no exaggeration. Every single picture has a huge amount of Blur, and I mean literally every single picture. If the blur covers up any sort of detail in the charachter models , then how can the graphics be great, Huh makes sense now , can you understand this concept. Did I say it will fail because of it NO...but it will fail as best looking console game because of it get over. Then people it does what your eyes do, get real now it;s an Eye simulator. Gears 2 has Blur to but guess what it uses it appropriatly Like when your Roadi RUNNING ,and when you slide into cover not when your character looks one inch left or right...get it now ..good.

*edit* so again nervmeister please tell me how I exaggerated this.:roll:

Well, you're not exaggerating right now.......... Instead, you're lying your ass off.

Where am I lying troll..way to back that up.

If you want to know what a troll is, then look in a mirror.
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#91 gamecubepad
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Killzone 2 has some of the best lighting for a console game this generation. It also looks like they're making good use of ambient occlusion, but I could wrong. Also, the animation is top notch. On the other hand, the models and textures are only average imo.

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#93 TheRealMC01
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

mmmm

I think COD4 looks better then KZ2 to be honest:?

Haku_Ryushi

LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

So that's why you had to go and make another thread? About that one post? :|

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#94 IgorVitaly
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I personally think the game dosen't look very good at this point. The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all. and the graphics and AI also seem to be lacking. And really why are the graphics being praised so much? They look good but I really don't think they are at the same level as "mind blowing" like gears of war whch game out 2 years ago on consles.

Not to mention we are all hypeing a sequel to a game which flopped pretty badly:o.

does anyone else agree with me here?

JangoWuzHere

it doesnt stand out as th hype would imply but its decent and competitive with other console games announced. But nothing shown is earthshattering at all.

And those posting blurry gifs or small images, are they implying the game will look that blurry and have blue or red or green color fitler? Becouse it will give "eye diahrrea" .

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#95 IgorVitaly
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I totally disagree with that statement.Cedmln

That was unexpected, really.

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#96 CR00K
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[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Euurrggghhh, another lemming thread.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all.

Erik_Lensherr

That part of your post was a very big fail.

I love when people post these pics...THEY DO NOT HELP YOUR CASE.Look at the bottom picture there is so much Blur you can see absolutlely no detail on the guy getting shot :roll: Oh but he's in a nice animation so the fact the guy looks like a big blur means nothing.

*edit* look at the bottom when he gets shot he does like a dance move when he gets shot :lol:

Those bottom 3 are blurry like that because of the camera used. Those aren't directly recorded. What are you doing in this thread? The game uses motion blur, but what you're talking about isn't "blur" in the game.
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#97 pseudocaesar
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No matter what, PS3 supporters just cant win ever. Its ridiculous how insecure the 360 fanboys are, as soon as they see a few good games coming out for PS3 we see a massive surge in flop predictions. To prove my point, how many Killzone 2, LBP, and Resistance flop threads have their been? Dozens. How many Fable, Banjo or GeOW1a flop threads? Zero. 360 Fanboys liked it at the top for the first year, then the PS3 outsold it. OK so then sales didnt matter, it was games that counted. Now the PS3 has the superior exclusive line up, present and future (Uncharted, Resistance 1 and 2, MGS4, Heavenly Sword, LBP, Killzone 2, Socom, Heavy Rain, GOW III, Gran Turismo 5) the game argument no longer works. So now it seems they have moved on to graphics...why? I'll never know...maybe a year or two ago you could win the graphics argument but too try and use it now? No way. Everyone knows the ps3 hardware is superior, the capabilities higher, proven by the games Uncharted and MGS4, why even argue about Graphics? The PS3 has beaten the Xbox for the second Generation in a row. Its time to man up and suck it up 360 owners and just be happy with what you have, which is actually a decent console. I have nothing against the 360 itself, but i do hate the 360 fanboys that defend it so vehemently. They are like fundamentalist Christians, for all science can prove they will never admit that they are wrong.
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#98 joopyme
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I personally think the game dosen't look very good at this point. The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all. and the graphics and AI also seem to be lacking. And really why are the graphics being praised so much? They look good but I really don't think they are at the same level as "mind blowing" like gears of war whch game out 2 years ago on consles.

Not to mention we are all hypeing a sequel to a game which flopped pretty badly:o.

does anyone else agree with me here?

JangoWuzHere

figures, coming from a crysis fanboy. see the vids. gears was too shallow, only had textures and gameplay with it.

and on the bolded statement, everyone knows the first flopped imo, but even knowing that, developers continued to make the game with the SAME title plus a 2. (kz1 looked great for a ps2 game fyi.)

maybe the gameplay wouldnt be revolutionary, but LOOKS great. and the demo vid on e32008---obviously on easy mode since the user couldnt hit **** and the ai couldnt hit ****

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#99 Skittles_McGee
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Personally, I can't see any reason to hype it. The developers have given me no reason to believe they are capable of making a good game. So if proven developers still have chances of making bad games, why should I trust that a developer that has yet to prove themselves is going to turn out something great? Seems pointless to me.

If the game ends up being good, thats fantastic. More games to play. If not, no surprise to me. I'm not going to bother getting my hopes up.
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#100 HuhJustaBox
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I personally think the game dosen't look very good at this point. The shooting dosen't look good or sound good at all. and the graphics and AI also seem to be lacking. And really why are the graphics being praised so much? They look good but I really don't think they are at the same level as "mind blowing" like gears of war whch game out 2 years ago on consles.

Not to mention we are all hypeing a sequel to a game which flopped pretty badly:o.

does anyone else agree with me here?

JangoWuzHere

Either you have not looked much into this game at all or you are one of the many millions of fanboys that just want to hate on the game because it is not on your system of choice.

It clearly looks far superior to any console game from a graphical standpoint. To argue this is just plain crazy and irresponsible.

It has some of the best animations I have ever seen in any game. Bullets tear through enemies and spill blood that looks more life like than any game I have ever seen.

The sound affects are outsanding and the shooting, how can any of us know how it feels being that none of us have played it. The AI has also been raved about in many magazines and websites. So I think I will take their opinion on this, as they have played the game and you have not.