i just wanna know whats so great about it? i know me and brother beat 3.....and found it kinda boring.....it was average to me, maybe i'm missing something...i dunno
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i just wanna know whats so great about it? i know me and brother beat 3.....and found it kinda boring.....it was average to me, maybe i'm missing something...i dunno
Because americans buy and defend whatever is advertised alot
momentum_god
What an ignorant thing to say.
To the TC, because they're fun, simple, accessible, and easy to play with a bunch of friends, sorry you didn't individually enjoy it, shocker that there would be some who don't enjoy popular franchises :P
Halo is actually my favorite first person shooting franchise on consoles.
Halo has always focused around team play. No other FPS game out there does co-op like Halo.
The enemy AI in Halo has always been really good.
The games have amazing set piece battles, great vehicle implementation, awesome physics....
The games are linear, but feel more open ended and free roaming than most FPS games.
I love the check point system, especially when playing on Legendary.
The games have the tightest controls out of any console FPS out there.
In a generation packed full of first person shooters, I've played them all, and the Halo games are the only ones I enjoy replaying.
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Because people buy and defend whatever is advertised alot
WreckEm711
What an ignorant thing to say.
To the TC, because they're fun, simple, accessible, and easy to play with a bunch of friends, sorry you didn't individually enjoy it, shocker that there would be some who don't enjoy popular franchises :P
actually it's quite informed theres a reason companies spend billions on advertising, it works, wellBecause for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.jdt532
Only people who didn't play the original Xbox make his statement.
Probably because it means ignoring titles like Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Jet Set Radio Future, Forza, and Project Gotham Racing, among other titles.
[QUOTE="WreckEm711"][QUOTE="momentum_god"]
Because people buy and defend whatever is advertised alot
momentum_god
What an ignorant thing to say.
To the TC, because they're fun, simple, accessible, and easy to play with a bunch of friends, sorry you didn't individually enjoy it, shocker that there would be some who don't enjoy popular franchises :P
actually it's quite informed theres a reason companies spend billions on advertising, it works, wellnice ninja edit.
Because for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.jdt532
You're right. Halo: Reach is my most played game this generation SIMPLY because Halo: CE was on the original Xbox and I hyped it and convinced myself the series was good. It CERTAINLY isn't because it's fun right?? Wow.
Halo is just fun, pure and simple. I love it, and it combines a unique mix of competitiveness, fun, and WTF moments that has kept my friends and I coming back since 2001. Can people just accept the fact that people like different games? We like Halo, you like your game?
[QUOTE="jdt532"]Because for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.Kickinurass
Only people who didn't play the original Xbox make his statement.
Probably because it means ignoring titles like Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Jet Set Radio Future, Forza, and Project Gotham Racing, among other titles.
While Halo is a good series I do firmly believe that the fact is was one of the first "Decent" Online shooters readily available on home consoles it got lucky with a big tidal wave of fans.first one was good, but it got a bit samey...
the tale of the tape for many games these days.
PcGamingRig
i feel that uncharted is heading that direction.....:|
[QUOTE="Kickinurass"][QUOTE="jdt532"]Because for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.Jynxzor
Only people who didn't play the original Xbox make his statement.
Probably because it means ignoring titles like Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Jet Set Radio Future, Forza, and Project Gotham Racing, among other titles.
While Halo is a good series I do firmly believe that the fact is was one of the first "Decent" Online shooters readily available on home consoles it got lucky with a big tidal wave of fans.Of course. it's the title for Xbox, but there were plenty of other quality titles. Hell, I'm a huge Halo fan, and I enjoy the obscure Japanese mech game Phantom Crash far more than either Halo CE or Halo 2.
Did you play it online? Best console FPS in my opinion, perhaps best on any platform for me personally.
[QUOTE="Kickinurass"][QUOTE="jdt532"]Because for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.Jynxzor
Only people who didn't play the original Xbox make his statement.
Probably because it means ignoring titles like Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Jet Set Radio Future, Forza, and Project Gotham Racing, among other titles.
While Halo is a good series I do firmly believe that the fact is was one of the first "Decent" Online shooters readily available on home consoles it got lucky with a big tidal wave of fans.So that explains why Bungie gave us AAA titles everytime they released a new Halo?It was one of the worst series' in the FPS genre, so i have no clue how someone could like something that bad , but obviously im not here to change peoples opinions or condemn them. I liked Killzone more than Halo, KZ was actually a good game, imo. To each their own.TheAcountantMan
Lol, and you like Call of Duty.
I sold my 360 and never miss it, but the one thing I do miss a bit is Halo (I owned 3). Great games. Maybe a bit overrated, but definitely awesome games deserving of recognition. They are the closest thing to Perfect Dark and Timesplitters we have today, and even then they are not quite as good as GE/PD/TS IMO.
Halo is actually my favorite first person shooting franchise on consoles.
Halo has always focused around team play. No other FPS game out there does co-op like Halo.
The enemy AI in Halo has always been really good.
The games have amazing set piece battles, great vehicle implementation, awesome physics....
The games are linear, but feel more open ended and free roaming than most FPS games.
I love the check point system, especially when playing on Legendary.
The games have the tightest controls out of any console FPS out there.
In a generation packed full of first person shooters, I've played them all, and the Halo games are the only ones I enjoy replaying.
arkephonic
Almost stopped reading at "The enemy AI in Halo has always been really good."
But then i read the next line "awesome physics...."
[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]It was one of the worst series' in the FPS genre, so i have no clue how someone could like something that bad , but obviously im not here to change peoples opinions or condemn them. I liked Killzone more than Halo, KZ was actually a good game, imo. To each their own.AtlasBizarre
Lol, and you like Call of Duty.
And?
Call of Duty is one of the best games ever made, i used to absolutely despise FPS games before i played COD, but the first time i played it, it converted me.
I have no problem with people playing Halo, i'm not even mad at them, that Halo players chose to play such an awful title game, when they couild be playing Call of Duty instead.
So that explains why Bungie gave us AAA titles everytime they released a new Halo?GrawseIf you take things like reviews at face value, then yes Bungie did give us "AAA titles" everytime, but I have seen far better games be shunned just due to the marketing machine. I like to form my own opinion about games I play, and Halo while good was nothing special in my opinion as far as FPS rolls. The one thing I'll always give it credit for is being the figurehead of the online consol gaming push.
I'm ONLY referring to Halo CE here and not the sequels, they all pale in comparison to the first.
It was well balanced , the battles were massive and were complimented by competent A.I. , the levels were huge, it had great music and sound fx, the vehicles were fun to use (flying around and strafing/bombing the enemy in a massive battle has yet to be topped IMO), the firefights were visceral, and the characters and story were decent. On top of that, it was incredibly polished and played tight. My biggest admiration towards Halo CE though comes from the way each weapon was unique and could be combined with others to take down different enemies quicker. It lent the battles an element of strategy and forethought, as only two weapons could be carried at a time.
Halo CE didn't do anything especially well or noteworthy, but it did it damn well good enough, and combined it all together nearly flawlessly. I've seen other good FPSes, but none where all its various parts come together so well. All in all, Halo CE is more than the sum of its parts. That's why it's so great.
- nostalgia. this generation of gamers is largely populated by people who played halo 1 and 2 as their first online FPS game or even one of their first FPS games ever. now they are nostalgically attached to this franchise forever and will buy anything bungie puts out and hail it as a masterpiece.
- its massive popularity. which could could be largely attributed to the fact that halo 1 and 2 were some of the only good exclusives to play on the original xbox. as the xbox grew, so did halo and it becaome the 360s posterboy as well.
- its simplistic gameplay, online community, and easy accesability makes it appeal to casuals. and im not talking about cooking mama or wii fit casuals. im talking about guys who know nearly nothing about the video games as a whole and who play nothing but call of duty, halo, and sports games. also, kids play a big role in halo's demographic. many of them were still sucking their thumbs when halo CE was released.
its just an overrated, overpopular, overblown franchise. there is nothing "great" about the current gen halo games. halo 1 and 2, were pretty impressive for their time, but due to bungie's inability to improve the campaign, gunplay, physics, AI, and overall the gameplay, the series is just mediocre by today's standards if you actually look at it objectively. its popularity makes it immune to criticism on most reviewing sites, and its early integration into the zeitgeist has created legions of loyal fanboys. that is halo.
Because for awhile the original Halo was the only decent game on the original Xbox so M$ and Xbox fans hyped it up as the greatest game ever. If Halo was a Playstation or PC game it would've been considered good but not great with all the other quality games on those platforms.jdt532
Only people who didn't play the original Xbox make his statement.
Probably because it means ignoring titles like Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden, Jet Set Radio Future, Forza, and Project Gotham Racing, among other titles.
While Halo is a good series I do firmly believe that the fact is was one of the first "Decent" Online shooters readily available on home consoles it got lucky with a big tidal wave of fans. well for FPS's it did have some of the more fun and engaging gameplay, most people don't realize how different the regening shield made things when it was released, they aslo don't realize that it was one of the first few games that stopped giving you tons of weapons and forced you to choose, add some vehicles that handled exceptionally well compared to... everything else in fps's at the time, and incrdibly good dev's that communicated with the community a lot and supported the game and kept updated playlists often, they didn't just get fans, they kept them. I don't think many people realizee if they are stepping into halo now, that many games followed in halo's footsteps now, and even then no dev's have really supported their game as much as BungieI'm ONLY referring to Halo CE here and not the sequels, they all pale in comparison to the first.
It was well balanced , the battles were massive and were complimented by competent A.I. , the levels were huge, it had great music and sound fx, the vehicles were fun to use (flying around and strafing/bombing the enemy in a massive battle has yet to be topped IMO), the firefights were visceral, and the characters and story were decent. On top of that, it was incredibly polished and played tight. My biggest admiration towards Halo CE though comes from the way each weapon was unique and could be combined with others to take down different enemies quicker. It lent the battles an element of strategy and forethought, as only two weapons could be carried at a time.
Halo CE didn't do anything especially well or noteworthy, but it did it damn well good enough, and combined it all together nearly flawlessly. I've seen other good FPSes, but none where all its various parts come together so well. All in all, Halo CE is more than the sum of its parts. That's why it's so great.
didn't do anythign noteworthy? i think the vehicles handle better then any other fps game out there, the dev's support the game more then any other fps out there, the music was epic, the plot was actually well thought out, the story was actually really good and unique (most people don't even acknowledge it, ITS ABOUT ALIENS!!! oh i thought it was about a halo...?) The ai is actually best on consols and i think the only PC game i've really seen come close to it is crysis/farcry but even that AI isn't as dynamic as halo's, halo's they'll get more aggressive depending on the friends they have around them... I don't think people realzie how good halo really is they are just so blinded by its popularity they have to hate it, or find reasons to hate it, and focus on the story part thats about aliens, and the fact that its an fps and you shoot people so it doesn't do anything new.... which can be said for all FPS's. I've never seen so many people ignore so many elements of a game just because its popularGot to love when people generalize a whole country.Because americans buy and defend whatever is advertised alot
momentum_god
i just wanna know whats so great about it? i know me and brother beat 3.....and found it kinda boring.....it was average to me, maybe i'm missing something...i dunno
youngmurk911
What you're missing is perspective. Different titles will appeal to different people. Simple as that.
There is no universal appeal to any single game. God of War gets criticized as a mindless button masher. Mario games get criticized as outdated and rehashed. Zelda also gets criticized as outdated for not having voice acting (and a bit of rehashing too). MGS gets called out for ridiculous plot & bizarre characterizations. Mass Effect is seen a lackluster TPS. Not everybody is into the puzzle solving of Portal, saying it sucks for not having real shooting action. COD gets called out for milking and being styIe over substance. GT up until its 5th game got criticized for being outdated for its lack of damage physics and rubber banding AI.
Basically, ANY game that gets accolaides gets questioned as to "why it deserves it". Which is the real fallacy of this whole thread and argument. Don't want to like Halo? That's fine. It won't be everybody's cup of tea, just like the games I listed above. But don't question its praise as if it were completely out of the realm of possibility that somehow, juuuust maybe the developers did something right to earn the acclaim it got from the media and gaming community. Just because you don't see any merits, doesn't mean plenty of other people don't. I know I'M not alone in its praise :)
And before you ask, "so why DO you like it, AdobeArtist?", not much point in answering. I can list a number of points like the balanced weapons list, comprehnsive multiplayer options and customization features, riveting music tracks, large scale unscripted battles, aggresive AI (on Heroic and Legendary), etc.... but you'll more than likely dismiss them as ficticious and therefore irrelevant.
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i just wanna know whats so great about it? i know me and brother beat 3.....and found it kinda boring.....it was average to me, maybe i'm missing something...i dunno
AdobeArtist
What you're missing is perspective. Different titles will appeal to different people. Simple as that.
There is no universal appeal to any single game. God of War gets criticized as a mindless button masher. Mario games get criticized as outdated and rehashed. Zelda also gets criticized as outdated for not having voice acting (and a bit of rehashing too). MGS gets called out for ridiculous plot & bizarre characterizations. Mass Effect is seen a lackluster TPS. Not everybody is into the puzzle solving of Portal, saying it sucks for not having real shooting action. COD gets called out for milking and being styIe over substance. GT up until its 5th game got criticized for being outdated for its lack of damage physics and rubber banding AI.
Basically, ANY game that gets accolaides gets questioned as to "why it deserves it". Which is the real fallacy of this whole thread and argument. Don't want to like Halo? That's fine. It won't be everybody's cup of tea, just like the games I listed above. But don't question its praise as if it were completely out of the realm of possibility that somehow, juuuust maybe the developers did something right to earn the acclaim it got from the media and gaming community. Just because you don't see any merits, doesn't mean plenty of other people don't. I know I'M not alone in its praise :)
And before you ask, "so why DO you like it, AdobeArtist?", not much point in answering. I can list a number of points like the balanced weapons list, comprehnsive multiplayer options and customization features, riveting music tracks, large scale unscripted battles, aggresive AI (on Heroic and Legendary), etc.... but you'll more than likely dismiss them as ficticious and therefore irrelevant.
So well written Adobe, and i agree. (Off topic, can u make me a GUFU sig with Mass Effect and Uncharted? Or maybe something with the Navy?)[QUOTE="AtlasBizarre"]
[QUOTE="TheAcountantMan"]It was one of the worst series' in the FPS genre, so i have no clue how someone could like something that bad , but obviously im not here to change peoples opinions or condemn them. I liked Killzone more than Halo, KZ was actually a good game, imo. To each their own.TheAcountantMan
Lol, and you like Call of Duty.
And?
Call of Duty is one of the best games ever made, i used to absolutely despise FPS games before i played COD, but the first time i played it, it converted me.
I have no problem with people playing Halo, i'm not even mad at them, that Halo players chose to play such an awful title game, when they couild be playing Call of Duty instead.
Hahahaha... Dude Call of Duty is easily the most overrated FPS game of all time. I'm assuming that your 13 years old and don't enjoy a challenging online game with a competitive edge. CoD games take zero skill, none at all. The fact that you can actually design a c1ass that gives you an advantage over other players just shows what a piece of **** game it is when it comes to multiplayer. You can keep forking out $60+ each year for the same horrible game but I would rather spend my money on a great game like Halo where the developers actually improve their products and where they actually care about the community.
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