Why is it GTAIV and Halo 3 launched with plenty of copies on the shelves...

But Wii fit can't?

Two of the biggest games this gen made sure you could find a copy almost anywhere even on launch day. But Wii Fit is sold out and selling for ridiculous prices on ebay. What is going on here?

Poor planning probablyLed_poison

Yes because after Japan Nintendo didn't know to make enough for the U.S.? Ummm no.

Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.comstrikeiscool

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

well wiifit is more than just an optical disc you know.Ontain

No one else seems to have a problem with this. Just Nintendo. How long have they been in this business?

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

-GhostMLD-

With the Wii they can hide behind.."BUT TEH DEMANDZ". With WiiFit theirs really no excuse. None. Zero. This is the correct answer. Great job Nintendo. Great Job.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

Bread_or_Decide

With the Wii they can hide behind.."BUT TEH DEMANDZ". With WiiFit theirs really no excuse. None. Zero. This is the correct answer. Great job Nintendo. Great Job.

no actually. the harder it is to find the more "desirable" it is for the consumers. toherwise you could pick up diamonds for a tenner since they just look like glass. but since they're 2 miles underground.. nintendo are masters

[QUOTE="Ontain"]well wiifit is more than just an optical disc you know.Bread_or_Decide

No one else seems to have a problem with this. Just Nintendo. How long have they been in this business?

what are you comparing to? the GH3 guitar is much lower tech than the wiifit board. I didn't see issues with getting Mario Kart.

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

-GhostMLD-

the wii is selling faster than any console in history. that clearly indicates that it's demand driven.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]well wiifit is more than just an optical disc you know.Ontain

No one else seems to have a problem with this. Just Nintendo. How long have they been in this business?

what are you comparing to? the GH3 guitar is much lower tech than the wiifit board. I didn't see issues with getting Mario Kart.

Cause they know Mario Kart is for a different market. The "wii" market is the "wiifit" market which feeds on this "I can't find it so I want it" kind of marketing.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.Bread_or_Decide

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

Cause they know Mario Kart is for a different market. The "wii" market is the "wiifit" market which feeds on this "I can't find it so I want it" kind of marketing.

Bread_or_Decide

that's a big leap for your conclusion since you have no facts to back that up. more likely is that Mario Kart is an established series while wiifit is new (fact). that and the wheel is low tech compared to the board as well (fact). Also as Haziqonfire said , GH3 for wii was not easy to find.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]well wiifit is more than just an optical disc you know.Bread_or_Decide

No one else seems to have a problem with this. Just Nintendo. How long have they been in this business?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

But Wii fit can't?

Two of the biggest games this gen made sure you could find a copy almost anywhere even on launch day. But Wii Fit is sold out and selling for ridiculous prices on ebay. What is going on here?

PS_John

I have been thinkin about this a lot, and IMO its their way of damage controlling. When it doesnt sell well they can say bu bu bu bu no stock anywhere, when infact most people realise its a gimmick

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

one more k?

:lol:

But Wii fit can't?

Two of the biggest games this gen made sure you could find a copy almost anywhere even on launch day. But Wii Fit is sold out and selling for ridiculous prices on ebay. What is going on here?

Bread_or_Decide

WiiFit has hardware bundled with it. Rock Band suffered from shortages, too, remember?

There were Guitar Hero and Rock Band shortages as well, don't forget.

Edit: Beatin'...

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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.Haziqonfire

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

same here, in Los Angeles. when GH3 came out, you could not find it for any system except for ps3. same with the 360 version of rock band as well

after GH and Rock band, how are people surprised that its harder to stock games with peripherals?

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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.ogvampire

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

same here, in Los Angeles. when GH3 came out, you could not find it for any system except for ps3. same with the 360 version of rock band as well

after GH and Rock band, how are people surprised that its harder to stock games with peripherals?

It was crazy here in Canada, prices went as high as $180, one even went to $9,000 (something about some dad's son smoking cocaine). Nintendo basically sent no Wii shipments at all in December (same for most of Europe as well).

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[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.Eponique

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

same here, in Los Angeles. when GH3 came out, you could not find it for any system except for ps3. same with the 360 version of rock band as well

after GH and Rock band, how are people surprised that its harder to stock games with peripherals?

It was crazy here in Canada, prices went as high as $180, one even went to $9,000 (something about some dad's son smoking cocaine). Nintendo basically sent no Wii shipments at all in December (same for most of Europe as well).

lol. i remember that one.

reasoning.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

Bread_or_Decide

With the Wii they can hide behind.."BUT TEH DEMANDZ". With WiiFit theirs really no excuse. None. Zero. This is the correct answer. Great job Nintendo. Great Job.

Dumb reasoning. I thought we were past this whole "intentional shortage" thing already?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]well wiifit is more than just an optical disc you know.Bread_or_Decide

No one else seems to have a problem with this. Just Nintendo. How long have they been in this business?

High demand or not I still believe Nintendo is creating false shortages to keep buzz on their products.
It's been like what, almost 2 years now and you still have trouble finding Wiis in store? Yeah right.

Either Nintendo are dumb as logs or they're marketing geniuses. And seeing how the Wii's success is pretty much entirely based off marketing ploys, I don't think Nintendo is going around scratching their heads and saying "Duh we don't know what's going duh".DireToad

The same month that Nintendo increased output by 50% (last month) from 1.8 million to 2.4 million, the regional sales of the Wii jumped up 50% from 500,000 to 750,000. At some point, you just have to admit that this is not an artificial demand.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.Bread_or_Decide

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

Now these games have been out for like... what 6 months or soemthing? They've had plenty of time for almost anyone who wanted it to buy it, whereas Wii Fit is new and has been out for like what... a week?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

Nintendo is purposely causing shortages to create demand.

Just like with the Wii. Its beautiful marketing.

^^^This man is right.

crunchUK

With the Wii they can hide behind.."BUT TEH DEMANDZ". With WiiFit theirs really no excuse. None. Zero. This is the correct answer. Great job Nintendo. Great Job.

no actually. the harder it is to find the more "desirable" it is for the consumers. toherwise you could pick up diamonds for a tenner since they just look like glass. but since they're 2 miles underground.. nintendo are masters

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

rockydog1111

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

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It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

mjarantilla

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

Poor planning probablyLed_poison

Are you joking? They do it on purpose so it looks like thier product is in much higher demand. Other companies do the same thing, however if I was a Nintendo fan I would be pretty mad.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

DireToad

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

I KNOW they don't, because it's one of the stupidest strategies to implement. Unless the shortage is very short and very limited, it has an even greater chance of backfiring than it does of succeeding, because deprivation linevitably eads to discontent with the providers, and discontent leads to a LOSS of demand. Have you ever heard the fable of the fox and the grapevine? People will only wait so long and try so hard to get what they want. After that, they convince themselves that they never wanted it in the first place.

[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Poor planning probablyVladTheImpaler

Are you joking? They do it on purpose so it looks like thier product is in much higher demand. Other companies do the same thing, however if I was a Nintendo fan I would be pretty mad.

so did activision and EA do the same with Rock band and GH3?

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

DireToad

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

By that logic, if MS and Sony made less product, they could sell as much as the Wii, right? People convieniently forget that the Wii outsells the PS3 and 360 combined month after month, yet Nintendo is holding back. My butt.

[QUOTE="rockydog1111"]

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

mjarantilla

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

If they are not doing it to cause Hype, can you give another reason. It is make fun of other peoples theory's, but do you have one of your own. Companies do this all the time Nintendo is not the only one.

[QUOTE="comstrikeiscool"]Um..wii fit has a huge ass accessory included with it incase you missed that.Bread_or_Decide

Guitar Hero III was huge. Plenty on the shelf. With an accessory in every box.

Not to mention Rock Band comes with even more stuff and was plentiful at launch.

Next excuse please.

I'm sure the balance board is slightly more advanced than a plastic guitar.

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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Poor planning probablyogvampire

Are you joking? They do it on purpose so it looks like thier product is in much higher demand. Other companies do the same thing, however if I was a Nintendo fan I would be pretty mad.

so did activision and EA do the same with Rock band and GH3?

Rock Band No guitar Hero Yes.

why do people in this thread still think its a Nintendo conspiracy to purposely reduce the supply to increase demand for WiiFit.

this happens to pretty much every game that comes with a peripheral that has high demand

same thing happened to GH and Rock band, but you have to realize that WiiFit sold a hell of alot more than both of those. thats why there is a shortage.

but of course logic escapes quite a few people here

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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Poor planning probablyVladTheImpaler

Are you joking? They do it on purpose so it looks like thier product is in much higher demand. Other companies do the same thing, however if I was a Nintendo fan I would be pretty mad.

so did activision and EA do the same with Rock band and GH3?

Rock Band No guitar Hero Yes.

rock band, yes (where i live). was very hard to find the 360 version in Los Angeles for a few weeks when it came out.

But Wii fit can't?

Two of the biggest games this gen made sure you could find a copy almost anywhere even on launch day. But Wii Fit is sold out and selling for ridiculous prices on ebay. What is going on here?

Bread_or_Decide

he devs new Halo 3 and GTA4 were awesome, and they'd sell like nothing before them.

I guess Nintendo didn't plan right, same with the Wii though.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]

It is to get the hype up. Ninty knows people want what they cant find. Just like the Wii still being soldout, they have to be able to meet demand this far into the life cycle. Thats my opinion anyways.

VladTheImpaler

The collective IQ of this place drops every time someone even suggests that companies are intentionally causing shortages. Unfortunately, as people get dumber from listening to the people who made that suggestion, they start to make that same suggestion themselves. It's a terrible, terrible cycle.

If they are not doing it to cause Hype, can you give another reason. It is make fun of other peoples theory's, but do you have one of your own. Companies do this all the time Nintendo is not the only one.

You've got to be joking.

And my theory is the simplest theory: they simply can't manufacture enough boards. How hard is that to understand? Nintendo is under the BIGGEST pressure of all three companies to deliver hardware BY FAR. They're making over three million DSes a month, almost 2.5 million Wiis a month, GOD KNOWS how many Wiimotes a month, and now you expect them to deliver untold millions of balance boards in the span of a few weeks?

Unlike Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft DO NOT OWN their own factories. They have to rely on outsourcing to get the manufacturing capabilities, and even that takes time and money.

For God's sake, people, THINK a bit before you speak.

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But Wii fit can't?

Two of the biggest games this gen made sure you could find a copy almost anywhere even on launch day. But Wii Fit is sold out and selling for ridiculous prices on ebay. What is going on here?

NFS102

he devs new Halo 3 and GTA4 were awesome, and they'd sell like nothing before them.

I guess Nintendo didn't plan right, same with the Wii though.

except that Halo 3 and GTA4 didnt come with a peripheral.

do you think that may have something to do with it? :roll: