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#151 WilliamRLBaker
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It all goes back to 2009 when they decided to drop core and go 99% casual to chase the Wii's pot of gold. Last in games 3 years in a row and probably this year too. Pathetic. Heil68
lol you purchased a kinect you have no right any more to say anything. any one find it funny? heil has been bad mouthing the 360 for about 4 years now, I've been a major 360 fanboy and considered at one time general lemming....but I never purchased kinect...
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#152 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]They're screwing over their players. They're screwing over developers. And, they're screwing over the entire industry. Do you think microsoft is becoming evil, beyond what Activision and EA are?tormentos

You mean the initial cost of 300$ for 360 when PS3 had a 600$ cost ?

Or the secure and amazing online service, than having 10.000.000 credit cards stolen on PS3 joke online system ?

Maybe the fact that they have enabled indies create actual games with XNA, when Sony has nothing like it

Or the Kinect that is actually used in games unlike MOve that is a device Sony brought out and have zero support for it

Sure, MS is so evil and Sony is like a saint comparing

LOL

$300 you mean that gimped crap that could not even save a game.? Oh wait $99 for wifi =$399 $99 for a small 20GB HDD =$498 oh wait $50 for xbox live =$547 dollars. That is $what $47 more than a 20GB PS3 which was $500.? But wait $199 for a useless HD-DVD add on that comes to $746 dollars.. Because is ok to buy a gimped unit,even if you get rip off latter on.. Hell the core 360 did not even had a wireless controller on 2005.

Wow, is it 2006 again?

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#153 Ghost120x
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I don't know. Maybe it's because MS is a dirty little slut that sneaks out at night.
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#154 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

You mean the initial cost of 300$ for 360 when PS3 had a 600$ cost ?

Or the secure and amazing online service, than having 10.000.000 credit cards stolen on PS3 joke online system ?

Maybe the fact that they have enabled indies create actual games with XNA, when Sony has nothing like it

Or the Kinect that is actually used in games unlike MOve that is a device Sony brought out and have zero support for it

Sure, MS is so evil and Sony is like a saint comparing

LOL

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$300 you mean that gimped crap that could not even save a game.? Oh wait $99 for wifi =$399 $99 for a small 20GB HDD =$498 oh wait $50 for xbox live =$547 dollars. That is $what $47 more than a 20GB PS3 which was $500.? But wait $199 for a useless HD-DVD add on that comes to $746 dollars.. Because is ok to buy a gimped unit,even if you get rip off latter on.. Hell the core 360 did not even had a wireless controller on 2005.

what the hell do you mean couldn't even save a game, all the core and arcade models came with memory cards, wireless and xbox live gold are optional, no matter what you say, as is the HDD, your argument has no credibility because half of the costs you are pointing out for the 360 are options, they are not a neccessity, that and the fact that it varies from region to region, Xbox 360 launched at 280 quid over here, Ps3 at 425 quid, both 20GB models, the core model 360 was 140 quid, so take your 20gb model 280 quid, wifi adapter 100 quid, so you have a 360 with a wi-fi adapter AND a HDD thats still 45 quid less than a Ps3.

Firstly the memory cards were useless, unless you enjoy having to delete your gamesaves to try and make room for new games every time you buy a new game then they were completely useless. It's obvious that the 360 was cheaper, he's not arguing that. He's trying to show the hidden costs and the stupidly over priced add ons you need to get the same features as the PS3. I'm all for more options but at the end of the day the base 360 model wasn't really fit for online gaming on a daily basis. You say you'd have a 360 with the same features as a PS3 for £45 less? Shame you actually can't play online with it which kind of makes the wifi adapter pointless so just ignoring the Xbox Live (which was £40 ironically) wouldn't make sense. The remaining £5 is lost on what you spend on rechargeable batteries since it didn't come with a charging lead. For me to get my 360 elite to the same set up as my PS3 i had to buy: Wireless adapter £60 Live gold £40 Play and charge kit £17 (the thing didn't even come with a charging cable for controllers wtf?) HDMI cable £5-10 There's around £125 which is around what the PS3 cost anyway since the Elite cost £300. Early adopters were looking at something stupid like £100 to upgrade the HDD to 120gb, it cost me £40 to go to 500gb for my PS3. The issue was with the stupid pricing, an adapter shouldn't cost £60, a charging cable that costs them pennies to make shouldn't cost £17 because they refuse to use universal ports on their controllers. Their HDD's were just ludicrous.
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#155 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]It all goes back to 2009 when they decided to drop core and go 99% casual to chase the Wii's pot of gold. Last in games 3 years in a row and probably this year too. Pathetic. WilliamRLBaker
lol you purchased a kinect you have no right any more to say anything. any one find it funny? heil has been bad mouthing the 360 for about 4 years now, I've been a major 360 fanboy and considered at one time general lemming....but I never purchased kinect...

since it has no games, and Loosey said Star Wars and Haunt are core games, I succumbed.
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#156 Cheleman
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Its quite simple really Microsoft only cares about the Moneyz
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#157 tjricardo089
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They are becoming evil - yes, but nowhere near EA and Activision yet.

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Indeed. EA, is the king of hell.

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#158 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Heil68"]It all goes back to 2009 when they decided to drop core and go 99% casual to chase the Wii's pot of gold. Last in games 3 years in a row and probably this year too. Pathetic. Heil68
lol you purchased a kinect you have no right any more to say anything. any one find it funny? heil has been bad mouthing the 360 for about 4 years now, I've been a major 360 fanboy and considered at one time general lemming....but I never purchased kinect...

since it has no games, and Loosey said Star Wars and Haunt are core games, I succumbed.

Try to come up with all the funny excuses you want but the fact is you talk non-stop about how bad Kinect is on here but in the real word you are playing it. The way you post is childish and fanboyish so it is not shocking that it is hypocritical also.

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#159 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="tormentos"] $300 you mean that gimped crap that could not even save a game.? Oh wait $99 for wifi =$399 $99 for a small 20GB HDD =$498 oh wait $50 for xbox live =$547 dollars. That is $what $47 more than a 20GB PS3 which was $500.? But wait $199 for a useless HD-DVD add on that comes to $746 dollars.. Because is ok to buy a gimped unit,even if you get rip off latter on.. Hell the core 360 did not even had a wireless controller on 2005.

what the hell do you mean couldn't even save a game, all the core and arcade models came with memory cards, wireless and xbox live gold are optional, no matter what you say, as is the HDD, your argument has no credibility because half of the costs you are pointing out for the 360 are options, they are not a neccessity, that and the fact that it varies from region to region, Xbox 360 launched at 280 quid over here, Ps3 at 425 quid, both 20GB models, the core model 360 was 140 quid, so take your 20gb model 280 quid, wifi adapter 100 quid, so you have a 360 with a wi-fi adapter AND a HDD thats still 45 quid less than a Ps3.

Firstly the memory cards were useless, unless you enjoy having to delete your gamesaves to try and make room for new games every time you buy a new game then they were completely useless. It's obvious that the 360 was cheaper, he's not arguing that. He's trying to show the hidden costs and the stupidly over priced add ons you need to get the same features as the PS3. I'm all for more options but at the end of the day the base 360 model wasn't really fit for online gaming on a daily basis. You say you'd have a 360 with the same features as a PS3 for £45 less? Shame you actually can't play online with it which kind of makes the wifi adapter pointless so just ignoring the Xbox Live (which was £40 ironically) wouldn't make sense. The remaining £5 is lost on what you spend on rechargeable batteries since it didn't come with a charging lead. For me to get my 360 elite to the same set up as my PS3 i had to buy: Wireless adapter £60 Live gold £40 Play and charge kit £17 (the thing didn't even come with a charging cable for controllers wtf?) HDMI cable £5-10 There's around £125 which is around what the PS3 cost anyway since the Elite cost £300. Early adopters were looking at something stupid like £100 to upgrade the HDD to 120gb, it cost me £40 to go to 500gb for my PS3. The issue was with the stupid pricing, an adapter shouldn't cost £60, a charging cable that costs them pennies to make shouldn't cost £17 because they refuse to use universal ports on their controllers. Their HDD's were just ludicrous.

.....The memory cards were useless? 512mbs and I rarely ever had to delete a save... please stop lying. hell if you were so stickler about having to delete a save after 3 years then you could have purchase a backup device from datel.
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#160 tormentos
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what the hell do you mean couldn't even save a game, all the core and arcade models came with memory cards, wireless and xbox live gold are optional, no matter what you say, as is the HDD, your argument has no credibility because half of the costs you are pointing out for the 360 are options, they are not a neccessity, that and the fact that it varies from region to region, Xbox 360 launched at 280 quid over here, Ps3 at 425 quid, both 20GB models, the core model 360 was 140 quid, so take your 20gb model 280 quid, wifi adapter 100 quid, so you have a 360 with a wi-fi adapter AND a HDD thats still 45 quid less than a Ps3.delta3074
No it did no it was the Arcade the first model to have a pack memory card,the first model was the core the arcade one came latter one,with some arcade games which was the reason for its name. Yes wifi was optional but was included in the version of the PS3 he was flaming,funny how he use the $600 PS3 and not the $500 one,so is fire with fire,to have a 360 on par with that PS3 you need it wifi,and while XBL gold is optional to play online it is mandatory,something that on PS3 is free,and the true is if you wanted to experience your games to the max gold was need it on PS3 that is included. YOU CANT PLAY ONLINE WITHOUT LIVE GOLD.. Seems pretty mandatory to me. Yeah I live in US were the biggest market is and where the big majority of the xbox 360 community also is,so for us it was $300 core $99 HDD,$99 wifi,$50 dollars xblg a year,and $199 for HD-DVD. Oh i forgot. Q: will the core system come with a memory card? if not, how can u save games? A: no it does not come with a memory unit. gamers will need an mu or a hard drive to save games with which is consistent with the games industry for the last decade. i think it is really important to emphasize especially for the folks in this chat room that we did not design the core system around you guys. similar to the shuffle, the boxter, the 4:3 tv, the 1mpix camera, we designed the core system as a way to get folks to come into the family at a cheaper prices and decide if an how they scale the system. the great thing about our approach unlike these examples is that the core owner can upgrade the system and match the capabilities of the premium system when the time is right for them. http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?67720-Pissed-off-about-the-2-XBOX-360-SKU-s Everything around the xbox 360 from the start was planned to make as much as possible with core owners and the first one did not even have a memory unit.
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#161 tormentos
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] dont forget you didn't have to buy the wifi adaptor you could buy a ethernet bridge.

Yes he could as i could use the $499 model to play PS3 games and not the $599 one,but in the post i quote the dude used the cheaper 360 model the gimped core vs the $600 PS3,which was basically ahead in everything over the core 360,60GB HDD,memory card reader,wifi,Blu-ray,free online play controller with rechargeable battery and even a wireless controller because the 360 core controller was a wired one.
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#162 tormentos
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] .....The memory cards were useless? 512mbs and I rarely ever had to delete a save... please stop lying. hell if you were so stickler about having to delete a save after 3 years then you could have purchase a backup device from datel.

Launch memory cards were 64 MB not 512MB..lol How quickly we forget the bad times.. SAN FRANCISCO March 4, 2007 At the Game Developers Conference (GDC) 2007, Microsoft Corp. today announced plans to launch a 512MB Memory Unit for the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system and an increase in the official size limit of Xbox LIVE® Arcade games from 50 MB to 150 MB. The 512MB Memory Unit, available worldwide beginning April 3, 2007, will retail for an estimated retail price of $49.99 (U.S.) in North America.* The 512MB Memory Unit will be pre-loaded with the hit Xbox LIVE Arcade game Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved from developer Bizarre Creations Ltd. for a limited time. The original 64MB Memory Unit will simultaneously drop in price from $39.99 to $29.99. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2007/mar07/03-04512MBMemoryUnitPR.aspx $50 dollars for a 512MB memory card,with that i could buy back them a 60GB or more HDD for my PS3.
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#163 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] dont forget you didn't have to buy the wifi adaptor you could buy a ethernet bridge.

Yes he could as i could use the $499 model to play PS3 games and not the $599 one,but in the post i quote the dude used the cheaper 360 model the gimped core vs the $600 PS3,which was basically ahead in everything over the core 360,60GB HDD,memory card reader,wifi,Blu-ray,free online play controller with rechargeable battery and even a wireless controller because the 360 core controller was a wired one.

lol someones deflecting and replying to me when I have them abp'd *you just happened to catch me when I was using IE* every thing you say changes nothing except that you basically said. 100 dollar Wifi adpator required...when no it wasn't required and no you could get something for 30 bucks that worked just as well.
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#164 GunSmith1_basic
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who bumped this thread from 1993??
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#165 waltefmoney
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who bumped this thread from 1993??GunSmith1_basic

Microsoft did.

They also kidnapped your baby.

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#166 tormentos
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol someones deflecting and replying to me when I have them abp'd *you just happened to catch me when I was using IE* every thing you say changes nothing except that you basically said. 100 dollar Wifi adpator required...when no it wasn't required and no you could get something for 30 bucks that worked just as well.

The $600 PS3 wasn't also require the $499 version would have do,that one was just $50 less than a premium 360 with xbox live,and next year we were even since live is mandatory for online play.
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becuzz micrawshawhft iz evulz

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] dont forget you didn't have to buy the wifi adaptor you could buy a ethernet bridge.WilliamRLBaker
Yes he could as i could use the $499 model to play PS3 games and not the $599 one,but in the post i quote the dude used the cheaper 360 model the gimped core vs the $600 PS3,which was basically ahead in everything over the core 360,60GB HDD,memory card reader,wifi,Blu-ray,free online play controller with rechargeable battery and even a wireless controller because the 360 core controller was a wired one.

lol someones deflecting and replying to me when I have them abp'd *you just happened to catch me when I was using IE* every thing you say changes nothing except that you basically said. 100 dollar Wifi adpator required...when no it wasn't required and no you could get something for 30 bucks that worked just as well.

but you still had to buy it which is a load of Bull.

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lol of the 3 console manufactures nintendo is the only one ive seen that has not screwed its fanbase

sony enters the handheld market - with no good games a high price low battery life in 2005 -- expensive memory cards

they then charge 600 for a ps3 w ps2 bc , the whole nine yard then cut the price and features down

then psvita launches for the same price as a psp 1000 , same exact problems hardly any games and its been out 5 months, ridiculously priced memory cards oh and my vita dies in 4 months whats sony do -make me go through this long process of sending it in , --im still waiting

microsoft xbox360 ---lets see more expensive then a wii less then a ps3 but its faulty as can be broke down 11 times already , and they still cant get it right , and get this your forced to pay for online multiplayer or not have multiplayer at all , see there is many ways each one screws its fan base,

and i can point them out

and the only winner here is nintendo!

cause quite frankly it is half the price of the other 2 so you get what you pay for

the 360 still costs the same price as it did at launch in some cases and only 100 dollars less for non bundles so ya it goes 2 of the 3 ways

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#171 tormentos
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lol of the 3 console manufactures nintendo is the only one ive seen that has not screwed its fanbase

sony enters the handheld market - with no good games a high price low battery life in 2005 -- expensive memory cards

they then charge 600 for a ps3 w ps2 bc , the whole nine yard then cut the price and features down

then psvita launches for the same price as a psp 1000 , same exact problems hardly any games and its been out 5 months, ridiculously priced memory cards oh and my vita dies in 4 months whats sony do -make me go through this long process of sending it in , --im still waiting

microsoft xbox360 ---lets see more expensive then a wii less then a ps3 but its faulty as can be broke down 11 times already , and they still cant get it right , and get this your forced to pay for online multiplayer or not have multiplayer at all , see there is many ways each one screws its fan base,

and i can point them out

and the only winner here is nintendo!

cause quite frankly it is half the price of the other 2 so you get what you pay for

the 360 still costs the same price as it did at launch in some cases and only 100 dollars less for non bundles so ya it goes 2 of the 3 ways

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Oh please the Wii was $50 less than a core 360 while been a generation behind,it was basically a $250 dollars Gamecube with more memory and motion controls.
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Welcome to capitalism. The only reason we have games in the first place because companies "screw" everyone. Besides, the 360 is an amazing console (arguably superior to the PS3), and that's all what matters.
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#173 tormentos
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Welcome to capitalism. The only reason we have games in the first place because companies "screw" everyone. Besides, the 360 is an amazing console (arguably superior to the PS3), and that's all what matters.The_RedLion
Is not capitalism is pure stupidity and not knowing how to do things right,MS screw up with the original xbox and wasn't able to make a cent,4 billions in loss this gen they loss 3,2 billions as well,there is a point were MS will draw a line,and get profits one way or another. The xbox 360 was design from launch to get what they loss and them some,it was carefully plan to bleed money in the first 2 years,and then took off greatly in profits do to how the system was design around DLC,XBL Gold subscription,and over priced peripherals. In fact if RROD would not had happen by now MS would have get probably 1 billion from those 4 billions it loss last gen,it was plan like that and all that money come from yours and every one pockets,MS doesn't care about gamers,they rise the price of games by $10 on 2005,they sell over priced PC parts,they charge for online play,and basically force developers to charge you for content even if they want to give it to you free. The only thing superior the 360 has to the PS3 is the numbers of dollars you will spend on it for over priced crap.
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]Welcome to capitalism. The only reason we have games in the first place because companies "screw" everyone. Besides, the 360 is an amazing console (arguably superior to the PS3), and that's all what matters.tormentos
Is not capitalism is pure stupidity and not knowing how to do things right,MS screw up with the original xbox and wasn't able to make a cent,4 billions in loss this gen they loss 3,2 billions as well,there is a point were MS will draw a line,and get profits one way or another. The xbox 360 was design from launch to get what they loss and them some,it was carefully plan to bleed money in the first 2 years,and then took off greatly in profits do to how the system was design around DLC,XBL Gold subscription,and over priced peripherals. In fact if RROD would not had happen by now MS would have get probably 1 billion from those 4 billions it loss last gen,it was plan like that and all that money come from yours and every one pockets,MS doesn't care about gamers,they rise the price of games by $10 on 2005,they sell over priced PC parts,they charge for online play,and basically force developers to charge you for content even if they want to give it to you free. The only thing superior the 360 has to the PS3 is the numbers of dollars you will spend on it for over priced crap.

You talk too much, and most of it wrong. You bore me.
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#175 ebrezzy1
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horrible greedy company ... its a business but they take it to a whole different lvl

halo gears forza fable

1 or 2 pc/360 games sprinkled in

a whole bunch of kinect i won't ever touch games

a whole bunch of xbla (non retail games ... for a reason)

thats it ... thats freaking it ... E3 2012 was a joke for MS

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#176 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

Well, you see. It really easy to explain. Microsoft is like a swarm of Locusts, they take what they need from an area and move on. Whenever this stops brining in enough numbers, they'll move on.

loosingENDS

Indeed, like Sony made the PSN+ to make extra money and they completly abandone the core in 2012 without a single serious game other than wonderbook and LBP Karting for the extreme casual market

Awwwww how cute. Hey guys, junior is stuck on stupid again.
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#178 rasengan2552
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Microsot is a pretty cool guy man, no need to necro outdated thread.

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#179 AmazonTreeBoa
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Hey TC, you really want to know why Microsoft screws it's fanbase? Because it's fanbase is dumber that sh!t, that's why. Want proof. Just look at your own thread and look how the morons defend Microsoft and bend over to take it without vasoline. At this point, I can't help but laugh at lemmings. I mean if they are too stupid to see what's going on and too spinless to stand up for themselves, why should I care.
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#180 The_RedLion
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Hey TC, you really want to know why Microsoft screws it's fanbase? Because it's fanbase is dumber that sh!t, that's why. Want proof. Just look at your own thread and look how the morons defend Microsoft and bend over to take it without vasoline. At this point, I can't help but laugh at lemmings. I mean if they are too stupid to see what's going on and too spinless to stand up for themselves, why should I care.AmazonTreeBoa
"Everybody who likes what I don't is stupid". Nice 12 year old logic bro. Don't be insecure, like what you like and let the rest enjoy whatever the hell they want.
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#181 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Hey TC, you really want to know why Microsoft screws it's fanbase? Because it's fanbase is dumber that sh!t, that's why. Want proof. Just look at your own thread and look how the morons defend Microsoft and bend over to take it without vasoline. At this point, I can't help but laugh at lemmings. I mean if they are too stupid to see what's going on and too spinless to stand up for themselves, why should I care.The_RedLion
"Everybody who likes what I don't is stupid". Nice 12 year old logic bro. Don't be insecure, like what you like and let the rest enjoy whatever the hell they want.

See what I mean TC. I rest my case. Already some moron quoting me trying to twist it around because in typical lemmings fashion, he/she is too stupid to see/except the truth.
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#182 skrat_01
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Because it makes them money one way. As bad as locking out online content outright is, a number of consumers pay for it enough for MS to impose it. Personally I think it's stupendously dumb, as a walled garden means that they're stopping more consumers from buying content they'll see returns on, and creating a stronger network service, but that's their decision. Can you argue it's outright negative? Sure.
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#183 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] See what I mean TC. I rest my case. Already some moron quoting me trying to twist it around because in typical lemmings fashion, he/she is too stupid to see/except the truth.

I talk about letting people enjoy whatever they want to. You talk about how everyone else is stupid. And you accuse me of not seeing the truth? May I ask how old you are?
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#185 tormentos
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] You talk too much, and most of it wrong. You bore me.

Typical response from some one who doesn't have an argument to begin with.
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#186 tormentos
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man you're like a broken record, you must do-your-own-head- in.sts106mat
Can't help it on a forum full of people who repeat the same crap and excuses all the time.
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#187 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] You talk too much, and most of it wrong. You bore me.

Typical response from some one who doesn't have an argument to begin with.

And I don't, because I don't care. It's a videogame console for god's sake, how weird you have to be to keep arguing over the same exact things over and over again :?
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#188 tormentos
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Hey TC, you really want to know why Microsoft screws it's fanbase? Because it's fanbase is dumber that sh!t, that's why. Want proof. Just look at your own thread and look how the morons defend Microsoft and bend over to take it without vasoline. At this point, I can't help but laugh at lemmings. I mean if they are too stupid to see what's going on and too spinless to stand up for themselves, why should I care.The_RedLion
"Everybody who likes what I don't is stupid". Nice 12 year old logic bro. Don't be insecure, like what you like and let the rest enjoy whatever the hell they want.

No any body who defend a rip off is. $99 for a 20GB HDD.? $99 for a wifi adapter.? $50 for online play.? Expensive DLC.? Is not about liking or not is about MS damn rip off dude.
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#189 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Hey TC, you really want to know why Microsoft screws it's fanbase? Because it's fanbase is dumber that sh!t, that's why. Want proof. Just look at your own thread and look how the morons defend Microsoft and bend over to take it without vasoline. At this point, I can't help but laugh at lemmings. I mean if they are too stupid to see what's going on and too spinless to stand up for themselves, why should I care.tormentos
"Everybody who likes what I don't is stupid". Nice 12 year old logic bro. Don't be insecure, like what you like and let the rest enjoy whatever the hell they want.

No any body who defend a rip off is. $99 for a 20GB HDD.? $99 for a wifi adapter.? $50 for online play.? Expensive DLC.? Is not about liking or not is about MS damn rip off dude.

Why are you still talking to me, I recall having told you twice I don't care. I'm sure you've had this conversation a hundred times before (at least!), why you want to do it again. It's weird bro.
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#191 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"] See what I mean TC. I rest my case. Already some moron quoting me trying to twist it around because in typical lemmings fashion, he/she is too stupid to see/except the truth.

I talk about letting people enjoy whatever they want to. You talk about how everyone else is stupid. And you accuse me of not seeing the truth? May I ask how old you are?

I never once said nobody could enjoy the 360. I was just answering the TC question on why Microsoft does what it does. You then came along crying like a b!tch about something to do with a 12 year old (do you have a kid fetish I should know about?).
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#192 The_RedLion
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I never once said nobody could enjoy the 360. I was just answering the TC question on why Microsoft does what it does. You then came along crying like a b!tch about something to do with a 12 ear old (do you have a kid fetish I should know about?).AmazonTreeBoa
What a weird thing to say. .
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#193 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] You talk too much, and most of it wrong. You bore me.

Typical response from some one who doesn't have an argument to begin with.

And I don't, because I don't care. It's a videogame console for god's sake, how weird you have to be to keep arguing over the same exact things over and over again :?

If you don't care, why ere you even here, lol? This forums is about debating over video game systems and games.
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#194 tormentos
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"] If you don't care, why ere you even here, lol? This forums is about debating over video game systems and games.

He did not care but continue to quote people,he just ran away when faced with a good argument.
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#195 Sturmfuehrer_
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How's M$ screwing people?

As much as I dislike them, they're simply offering products and services and ask for your money in return.

No one's forced to use them, though it's kinda hard to avoid them in the PC market.

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#196 Mario_Eater
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They are a big company. Unfortunately it is their job to screw everyone for the sake of money and profit. Seriously, what did you expect unicorns, rainbows and pretty little flowers? Yes, not all companies are bad, but they are often few and far between (or squashed by the evil companies).
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#197 WithoutGraceXII
Member since 2007 • 1797 Posts
I guess when your c*** is that big, screwing people comes naturally.