Why Is Natal "Revoluntionary" again?

Okay...before u Xbox Natal Lovers Come in Here..with your swords drawn and your claws out....I'm just a Gamer, like u... sure i have a ps2 and a psp and a ps3, ...but I'm not a fanboy, i just prefer Sony, anyway. Could you guys tell me, what's so big about Natal, I mean I watch the conference again..and you guys were impress with that, i mean i could have sworn i seen Natal from somewhere.... in fact i saw it in my room on top of my tv...oh yeah my ps eye. Call me a fanboy, or whatever but i just don't see the big deal with Natal.. i mean i can only see shovelware coming out for this...and tell me what natal can do that the ps eye can't... besides voice and face recongnition... Because games that use the ps eye, i don't need a controller for it, "my body is the controller" as you guys say, and yeah i gotta admit the games are kind of meh right now, but i've taken more interest in the ps wands that USE the camera and you gotta admit, that sword demo with the ps wands..opens the possiblity for something crazy that will appeal to the core gamers. But what do i know, your going to use the "Your a Sony Fanboy", not really.. i just prefer them, ...so tell me how this Natal is revoluntionary as Microsoft says..thank you

Because Hardcore Xbox Fans never heard of the old Last Generation Eyetoy?

Nevermind......Bewareoffalling

Because you don't need a controller. (you need that camera doohicky)

EDIT : Nevermind......Bewareoffalling

Invisible Controllers FTW!

Because it's "invented" by M$..... and it's "completely" different from the last gen PSeye. :x

[QUOTE="Bewareoffalling"]Nevermind......Chris_Williams

He originally mentioned the lack of a controller, but changed his mind.

In the VIDS for NATAL, there was a snipet of a woman using an INVISIBLE Controller made out of thin air and imagination.

Pretty sweet. I wonder where the triggers and guide button were on that invisible controller?

Yeah, I don' t know what is so revolutionary about a cam that has a half second delay between most movements.

Maybe it's revolutionary because MS said so?

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Bewareoffalling"]Nevermind......SolidTy

He originally mentioned the lack of a controller, but changed his mind.

In the VIDS for NATAL, there was a snipet of a woman using an INVISIBLE Controller made out of thin air and imagination.

Pretty sweet. I wonder where the triggers and guide button were on that invisible controller?

and because hard core xbox fans never played duck hunt for nes or heard of the wiimote or ya event he eye toy also the playstation eye recognizes movment so does dsis cameras , lol silly how all of a sudden a cam becomes motion sensing tech theyve been recognizing this since they startted lol

Because it will break the barrier between casuals and hardcores and Microsoft will get lots of sales...

Oh wait.

[QUOTE="Bewareoffalling"]Nevermind......Chris_Williams

and because hard core xbox fans never played duck hunt for nes or heard of the wiimote or ya event he eye toy also the playstation eye recognizes movment so does dsis cameras , lol silly how all of a sudden a cam becomes motion sensing tech theyve been recognizing this since they startted lol

mariokart64fan

this

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Bewareoffalling"]Nevermind......Bewareoffalling

Because it's "invented" by M$..... and it's "completely" different from the last gen PSeye. :x

-Pidokenny-

The current PSEye is is basically the same thing as Natal. The only difference will be the software, but Natal's hardware is really not that different from the Eye. Any software for Natal can be made for PSEye as well, so we'll probably see plenty of multi-plat PSEye/Natal games in the future. Sony's motion controller games probably won't go multiplat with the Wii though due to hardware differences, but we'll see... all they really need to do is scale the graphics down.

I'm really curious to see where Natal and Sony's controller/eye goes.

The only reason Natal is getting so much hype is because people believed the lie that was Milo, and they also don't know that the PSEye exists because they've never owned a Sony system (apparently, if they think Natal is revolutionary and couldn't see how it's just a hyped up PSEye).

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Bewareoffalling"]Nevermind......SolidTy

He originally mentioned the lack of a controller, but changed his mind.

In the VIDS for NATAL, there was a snipet of a woman using an INVISIBLE Controller made out of thin air and imagination.

Pretty sweet. I wonder where the triggers and guide button were on that invisible controller?

This video is even better they are playing Burnout using Natal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ5J4yXA5sM

[QUOTE="-Pidokenny-"]

Because it's "invented" by M$..... and it's "completely" different from the last gen PSeye. :x

Ryusuke_Akihiro

The current PSEye is is basically the same thing as Natal. The only difference will be the software, but Natal's hardware is really not that different from the Eye. Any software for Natal can be made for PSEye as well, so we'll probably see plenty of multi-plat PSEye/Natal games in the future. Sony's motion controller games probably won't go multiplat with the
Wii though due to hardware differences, but we'll see... all they really need to do is scale the graphics down.

I'm really curious to see where Natal and Sony's controller/eye goes.

The only reason Natal is getting so much hype is because people believed the lie that was Milo, and they also don't know that the PSEye exists because they've never owned a Sony system (apparently, if they think Natal is revolutionary and couldn't see how it's just a hyped up PSEye).

Because Microsoft=automatic win

vista is living proof of this ;)

[QUOTE="Ryusuke_Akihiro"]

[QUOTE="-Pidokenny-"]

Because it's "invented" by M$..... and it's "completely" different from the last gen PSeye. :x

Chris_Williams

The current PSEye is is basically the same thing as Natal. The only difference will be the software, but Natal's hardware is really not that different from the Eye. Any software for Natal can be made for PSEye as well, so we'll probably see plenty of multi-plat PSEye/Natal games in the future. Sony's motion controller games probably won't go multiplat with the
Wii though due to hardware differences, but we'll see... all they really need to do is scale the graphics down.

I'm really curious to see where Natal and Sony's controller/eye goes.

The only reason Natal is getting so much hype is because people believed the lie that was Milo, and they also don't know that the PSEye exists because they've never owned a Sony system (apparently, if they think Natal is revolutionary and couldn't see how it's just a hyped up PSEye).

I couldn't believe how quick Peter Molyneux saved his own *** by letting everyone know it was Microsoft's idea to lie about what Milo was capable of.

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

And Milo was the biggest lie of this year's E3. I could probably ask "What's your name?" to the "AI" and he'll answer "Let's play with the water."

M$ = Liers

Because eyetoy or wii motes do on a level the same as natal right? and natal can do the exact same thing eyetoy can do with the wands its just a programming difference.

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

FamiBox

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] ...u know, u took the time, to click open this forum and to type those words.........why?HarlockJC

He originally mentioned the lack of a controller, but changed his mind.

In the VIDS for NATAL, there was a snipet of a woman using an INVISIBLE Controller made out of thin air and imagination.

Pretty sweet. I wonder where the triggers and guide button were on that invisible controller?

This video is even better they are playing Burnout using Natal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ5J4yXA5sM

I can't wait to put my foot forward, and stand in front of my TV twisting my arm to move a car. That looks like so much fun.
And to think, I played Burnout with a controller...I feel pretty sad now.

Invisible Steering Wheels FTW!

Because eyetoy or wii motes do on a level the same as natal right? and natal can do the exact same thing eyetoy can do with the wands its just a programming difference.

WilliamRLBaker

Okay...before u Xbox Natal Lovers Come in Here..with your swords drawn and your claws out....I'm just a Gamer, like u... sure i have a ps2 and a psp and a ps3, ...but I'm not a fanboy, i just prefer Sony, anyway. Could you guys tell me, what's so big about Natal, I mean I watch the conference again..and you guys were impress with that, i mean i could have sworn i seen Natal from somewhere.... in fact i saw it in my room on top of my tv...oh yeah my ps eye. Call me a fanboy, or whatever but i just don't see the big deal with Natal.. i mean i can only see shovelware coming out for this...and tell me what natal can do that the ps eye can't... besides voice and face recongnition... Because games that use the ps eye, i don't need a controller for it, "my body is the controller" as you guys say, and yeah i gotta admit the games are kind of meh right now, but i've taken more interest in the ps wands that USE the camera and you gotta admit, that sword demo with the ps wands..opens the possiblity for something crazy that will appeal to the core gamers. But what do i know, your going to use the "Your a Sony Fanboy", not really.. i just prefer them, ...so tell me how this Natal is revoluntionary as Microsoft says..thank you

Chris_Williams

Well that's why. You can't simply ignore it.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

Chris_Williams

1st person driving kinda funny to me, when I do it, I feel like I'm on the bumper of my engine driving around town.

It's quite silly, really.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

Okay...before u Xbox Natal Lovers Come in Here..with your swords drawn and your claws out....I'm just a Gamer, like u... sure i have a ps2 and a psp and a ps3, ...but I'm not a fanboy, i just prefer Sony, anyway. Could you guys tell me, what's so big about Natal, I mean I watch the conference again..and you guys were impress with that, i mean i could have sworn i seen Natal from somewhere.... in fact i saw it in my room on top of my tv...oh yeah my ps eye. Call me a fanboy, or whatever but i just don't see the big deal with Natal.. i mean i can only see shovelware coming out for this...and tell me what natal can do that the ps eye can't... besides voice and face recongnition... Because games that use the ps eye, i don't need a controller for it, "my body is the controller" as you guys say, and yeah i gotta admit the games are kind of meh right now, but i've taken more interest in the ps wands that USE the camera and you gotta admit, that sword demo with the ps wands..opens the possiblity for something crazy that will appeal to the core gamers. But what do i know, your going to use the "Your a Sony Fanboy", not really.. i just prefer them, ...so tell me how this Natal is revoluntionary as Microsoft says..thank you

boredy-Mcbored

Well that's why. You can't simply ignore it.

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

FamiBox

The PSEye has a built-in microphone, so it's capable of voice recognition also. The two cameras could be an advantage, which is great for Microsoft, but I can't really comment on them because we don't know if it'll really matter in games that only use the cameras to perform actions.

Sony's motion controls used in conjunction with the Eye already seem like a more practical way to play games. Like it was said during Sony's tech demo, it just doesn't feel right to use motion controls without buttons.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

He originally mentioned the lack of a controller, but changed his mind.

In the VIDS for NATAL, there was a snipet of a woman using an INVISIBLE Controller made out of thin air and imagination.

Pretty sweet. I wonder where the triggers and guide button were on that invisible controller?

SolidTy

This video is even better they are playing Burnout using Natal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ5J4yXA5sM

I can't wait to put my foot forward, and stand in front of my TV twisting my arm to move a car. That looks like so much fun.
And to think, I played Burnout with a controller...I feel pretty sad now.

Invisible Steering Wheels FTW!

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

This video is even better they are playing Burnout using Natal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ5J4yXA5sM

HarlockJC

I can't wait to put my foot forward, and stand in front of my TV twisting my arm to move a car. That looks like so much fun.
And to think, I played Burnout with a controller...I feel pretty sad now.

Invisible Steering Wheels FTW!

I'm on the fence, but I did see that show live.IT's right after Conan!

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

Ryusuke_Akihiro

The PSEye has a built-in microphone, so it's capable of voice recognition also. The two cameras could be an advantage, which is great for Microsoft, but I can't really comment on them because we don't know if it'll really matter in games that only use the cameras to perform actions.

Sony's motion controls used in conjunction with the Eye already seem like a more practical way to play games. Like it was said during Sony's tech demo, it just doesn't feel right to use motion controls without buttons.

We'll just have to wait and see.

I'm on the fence, but I did see that show live.IT's right after Conan!

SolidTy

I know you have been gaming long enough to remember that is where it started.

Look at the Wii and see the games which have been improved because of the motion controls. Not every game has improved but a lot of them have. Don't look at the video of Burnout to compare what the controllers are like. Look at has where gaming could go.

From what I heard from ign the PS3 eyetoy could domost of the stuffnatal do execpt for depth. Just nobody really did anything.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I'm on the fence, but I did see that show live.IT's right after Conan!

HarlockJC

I know you have been gaming long enough to remember that is where it started.

Look at the Wii and see the games which have been improved because of the motion controls. Not every game has improved but a lot of them have. Don't look at the video of Burnout to compare what the controllers are like. Look at has where gaming could go.

[QUOTE="Ryusuke_Akihiro"]

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

But doesn't Natal use two cameras to detect depth and have voice recognition... all without a controller.

That's new isn't it?

FamiBox

The PSEye has a built-in microphone, so it's capable of voice recognition also. The two cameras could be an advantage, which is great for Microsoft, but I can't really comment on them because we don't know if it'll really matter in games that only use the cameras to perform actions.

Sony's motion controls used in conjunction with the Eye already seem like a more practical way to play games. Like it was said during Sony's tech demo, it just doesn't feel right to use motion controls without buttons.

We'll just have to wait and see.

Or maybe we won't. Any ideas on how Natal will have you move your characters in a game? How about moving the camera around in a game to see the world better?

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I'm on the fence, but I did see that show live.IT's right after Conan!

Chris_Williams

I know you have been gaming long enough to remember that is where it started.

Look at the Wii and see the games which have been improved because of the motion controls. Not every game has improved but a lot of them have. Don't look at the video of Burnout to compare what the controllers are like. Look at has where gaming could go.

[QUOTE="boredy-Mcbored"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

Okay...before u Xbox Natal Lovers Come in Here..with your swords drawn and your claws out....I'm just a Gamer, like u... sure i have a ps2 and a psp and a ps3, ...but I'm not a fanboy, i just prefer Sony, anyway. Could you guys tell me, what's so big about Natal, I mean I watch the conference again..and you guys were impress with that, i mean i could have sworn i seen Natal from somewhere.... in fact i saw it in my room on top of my tv...oh yeah my ps eye. Call me a fanboy, or whatever but i just don't see the big deal with Natal.. i mean i can only see shovelware coming out for this...and tell me what natal can do that the ps eye can't... besides voice and face recongnition... Because games that use the ps eye, i don't need a controller for it, "my body is the controller" as you guys say, and yeah i gotta admit the games are kind of meh right now, but i've taken more interest in the ps wands that USE the camera and you gotta admit, that sword demo with the ps wands..opens the possiblity for something crazy that will appeal to the core gamers. But what do i know, your going to use the "Your a Sony Fanboy", not really.. i just prefer them, ...so tell me how this Natal is revoluntionary as Microsoft says..thank you

Chris_Williams

Well that's why. You can't simply ignore it.

Well that's the main reason why it's revolutionary. It's an Eyetoy clone without it. Really that's like saying besides graphics/framrate what's the diffrence between Xbox and Xbox 360 or Ps2 and Ps3 games. Nothing.

Why not wait until it comes out and try it! That way you opinion will matter. I think it looks like it could be something pretty cool.

[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

[QUOTE="Ryusuke_Akihiro"]

The PSEye has a built-in microphone, so it's capable of voice recognition also. The two cameras could be an advantage, which is great for Microsoft, but I can't really comment on them because we don't know if it'll really matter in games that only use the cameras to perform actions.

Sony's motion controls used in conjunction with the Eye already seem like a more practical way to play games. Like it was said during Sony's tech demo, it just doesn't feel right to use motion controls without buttons.

Ryusuke_Akihiro

We'll just have to wait and see.

Or maybe we won't. Any ideas on how Natal will have you move your characters in a game? How about moving the camera around in a game to see the world better?

I don't think that's the point of Natal. I don't think people will be playing such games with it (the standard 360 controller is still the main controller and Natal is not replacing it)

So what if most of the games turn out to be casual/sport/racing games?

Still looks fun.