[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]Nintendo represents gaming in its PUREST form. They don't care for what others do. They do what Nintendo does. In the mind of Nintendo the world doesn't exist, only Nintendo. For better or for worse they will continue to walk their own path despite the many paths that others may take.
tomarlyn
No If they were pure they'd stick to their guns and not desperately try playing catch up every other generation with innovations like disc format, online, etc. They're not pure they're simply arrogant. Arrogant until the time they get egg on their face then run around like headless chickens.1. Pure =/= perfect. Anyone can make mistakes. They are confident in their opinions when they give them, so they appear arrogant, but then again that confidence comes from Nintendo being nearly synonymous with Video Games among a significant segment of the population in America and Japan, that confidence comes from being the top grossing publisher year after year after year, with the most critically acclaimed titles in their role as a developer year after year after year dating back generations.
2. Times change. Many of the reasons cited for the given decisions disappeared over time. For instance, one concern cited over choosing a disc format was loading times due to slow drive speeds in the early & mid-90's, and it was a real, though exaggerated issue, but by the time the Gamecube was introduced that was largely a non-issue due to technological changes. Would they have gone to disc anyways? Of course, everyone recognizes the mistake in retrospect.
3. As for online, they still have not fully embraced it for most of their games, they hardly are going "out of their way" to promote it when you consider that many of their first party games still do not have online modes shoehorned into them, even where it would be a relatively natural addition, as in their many party games. You seem to not understand that these hardware and marketing decisions are made by a company that tries to keep its own software concerns as a developer front and center when making those decisions. It is that fact that makes them seem "Pure" in many peoples eyes, the willingness to forsake what would be standard logic for a console maker or even a publisher in order to achieve their vision as a developer. However, they are not an island, merely because their vision did not include online before doesn't mean that as it becomes ubiquitous their own vision isn't going to be shaped and changed by that development.
4. Every business downplays what their competitors are doing. MS does it, Sony does it. I recall CONSTANT dismissal and condescension directed by MS and Sony at Nintendo when this generation started, relating to their direction using arguments and marketing words ("casual","kiddy", etc.) that can be seen to this day in System Wars threads galore. People take what they have and try to distinguish themselves. When Iwata makes a statement denigrating online, the vast majority of people with active firing neurons in their head should be able to read into it that Nintendo is not prepared to offer the capability that their competitors offer on that front, and know that it should be taken with a grain of salt.
I knew someone would throw out the generic sales comment. They always play down new tech that dev's want like online or disc format then go almost out of their way to integrate them the following generations. Its partly why 3rd parties give Ninty the finger all the time, kinda odd isn't it considering they're the market leaders? Please...tomarlyn
Headless chickens, desperation, almost out of their way...its all coming off as a little weaselly, the only desperation I see is in this repetitive anti-Nintendo at all costs drumbeat ;)
Third party developers give Nintendo the finger not because of goofy fanboy-esque musings, but for one reason and one reason only, sales of their software. Does Nintendo's decisions play a role in those sales? Absolutely, as a console is a closed system, if you are a third party developer you must adapt to the vision of the console maker as put forward in the marketing of the console and production of first party software if you hope to sell, and as Nintendo's vision has often been outside of where the broader industry is at the time, this has proven more of a challenge for publishers than aligning with MS or Sony, who function largely the same way, and seemingly with a similar vision as the other large publishers. They simply did not trust Nintendo to have their finger on the pulse of the masses as they did in the 80's and early 90's, but one look at the kind of support the 3DS is getting suggests they aren't taking it personal.
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