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#1 Walker34
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because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

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#2 clubsammich91
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Well, every month the PS3 is closing the gap a little bit.
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#3 Walker34
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i'm surprised the ps3 had such a lousy month in april though. it seems like it would have picked up with killzone and mlb the show. what does the 360 have?

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#4 clubsammich91
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i'm surprised the ps3 had such a lousy month in april though. it seems like it would have picked up with killzone and mlb the show. what does the 360 have?

Walker34
All the consoles have. April is a slow month for videogames.
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#5 micky4889
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$199 arcade

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#6 Walker34
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$199 arcade

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maybe so. the 360 has better price points. I've never owned the arcade. Can you even save your games without a harddrive though?

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#7 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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It's a slow month in general.
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

$199 arcade

Walker34

maybe so. the 360 has better price points. I've never owned the arcade. Can you even save your games without a harddrive though?

Memory Card.
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#9 Gnr_Helsing
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Halo.

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#10 OreoMilkshake
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It's more awesome.
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because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

Walker34

PRICE. the price is the biggest factor.

in australia the cheapest 360 is $299
whilst you can get a ps3 for $699.

with such a price like that the ps3 deserves to get pounded in sales.
anyway, that didnt stop me from getting a ps3 in april.

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#12 micky4889
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

$199 arcade

Walker34

maybe so. the 360 has better price points. I've never owned the arcade. Can you even save your games without a harddrive though?

The older arcades came with a 256mb memory card and i think the newer one's come with 512mb, which is plenty for game saves.
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#13 Walker34
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i'm not knocking the 360 either although it sounds like it. I actualy really like my 360. It does everything i need for a decent price. But the ps3 isnt that much more expensive and it's better in most areas. The only reason i posted this is because the ps3's main detractor is its sales and lack of support from 3rd parties because of it. I might choose the 360 over the ps3 because of this which is a shame, because i believe the ps3 is the more complete system. But it's lack of 3rd party support is frustrating. You can tell the 360 is the favored system when it comes to 3rd party stuff because it sells more. If the ps3 sold more it wouldnt be that way.

In a perfect world the ps3 would be the number 1 system and there would be no need for the 360 lol.

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#14 Legendaryscmt
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It's all about the price, especially with today's economy. Sony has two SKUs, where even the cheapest one is still $200 more than the cheapest 360 SKU. I think that you'll start to see sales rise a lot more once the economy gets better.

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#15 mD-
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cheaper price, earlier release to have a bigger fan base and get good games out quick, consumers who don't research anything

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#16 Synthetic_NinJI
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because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

Walker34
Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.
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#17 DanteSuikoden
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it has an attractive price

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#18 dethroned3
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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

Synthetic_NinJI

Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.

with constant hardware failure? of course.

:)

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#19 micky4889
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[QUOTE="Walker34"]

because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

Synthetic_NinJI
Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.

I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?
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#20 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Walker34"]

because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

dethroned3

Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.

with constant hardware failure? of course.

And 100 percent free warranty.

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#21 navyguy21
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Well, every month the PS3 is closing the gap a little bit.clubsammich91
lol, what fantasy land do YOU live in?? :P Because i see 360 beatin PS3 in Europe (as a whole, not selective countries) and in US. And Japan isnt enough to make up the difference :|

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#22 RushKing
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Microsoft is better at marketing than Sony.
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#23 xscott1018
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the arcade is cheap it's $200. people buy two or more because of the red rings. they buy it so they will have a system to play on when they are shipping their broken xbox.
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#24 dethroned3
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[QUOTE="dethroned3"]

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.Synthetic_NinJI

with constant hardware failure? of course.

And 100 percent free warranty.

so?
i get free warranty on my nintendo wii and ps3 too.

:)

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#25 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="Walker34"]

because it's a $100 cheaper? Thing is with live which is its main selling point that's $50 so suddenly it's a $50 difference. The elite is actually more expensive. The ps3 has blu-ray, wifi, better hardware, better games coming. Is this just another case of microsoft preying on the stupidity of the world? It pays to be first. MY friend has one so it must be better?

micky4889
Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.

I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?

It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.
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#27 RushKing
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Well if you consider the fact that the 360 was released a year early, the PS3 is winning in Europe.
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#28 Mike885
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You also forgot that basicly the way a system wins is by getting casuals to buy the system, and halo is the thing getting casuals to buy for the 360, while the ps3 only has the blue ray.

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#29 moose_knuckler
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Really? The 360 being half the price of the PS3 wasn't enough of an excuse?
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#30 RushKing
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.

I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?

It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.

There was warhawk and resistance though.
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#31 Mike885
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Really? The 360 being half the price of the PS3 wasn't enough of an excuse?moose_knuckler
lol, apparently not

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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="micky4889"] I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?RushKing
It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.

There was warhawk and resistance though.

I think he forgot to put "good" in between no and games. *equips flame shield*

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#33 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="micky4889"] I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?RushKing
It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.

Vs Halo 3, Dead rising, Forza 2, and Gears of War among many others combined with Live. Clearly, the 360 had better overall quality for the first 3 - 3 1/2 years.

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[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.moose_knuckler
There was warhawk and resistance though.

I think he forgot to put "good" in between no and games.

You are saying Resistance and R&C are not good?
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#35 micky4889
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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] Because 360 has been giving an overall better service for the past 3 1/2 years.Synthetic_NinJI
I guess thats why the PS3 was outselling it up until the price drop then ?

It was outselling it because it was a launch console with name recognition. As Sony said, the first 5 million are going to buy the PS3 even if their are no games.

Sorry you cant play the "oh it was a launch console" card when it was outselling it for some 20 months and would probably still be outselling it if MS hadn't cut the price.

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#36 Lionheart08
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It's a lot cheaper. People can say "Better Marketing" and "More Games" all they want but the PS3 and 360 stopped being more evenly selling around the time the arcade became half the price of the PS3.

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#37 Blue-Sky
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Aside from price, 360 has a better reputation among consumers despite all the malfunction reports. Brand recognition and an earlier launch both contribute to this. 360 is just plain more popular.

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="RushKing"] There was warhawk and resistance though.RushKing
I think he forgot to put "good" in between no and games.

You are saying Resistance and R&C are not good?

You missed my edit, I've equiped my flame shield so I'm now impervious to your questions :P
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[QUOTE="RushKing"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]I think he forgot to put "good" in between no and games.moose_knuckler
You are saying Resistance and R&C are not good?

You missed my edit, I've equiped my flame shield so I'm now impervious to your questions :P

lol, awesome :P
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#40 TheOldOlder
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Its cheaper, nothing more, nothing else
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#41 -Oath
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People know what they want, as of now its not the PS3.

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#42 Mike885
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Its cheaper, nothing more, nothing elseTheOldOlder
No, it has halo, which is popular with a lot of casuals. That's why its in second. Wii gets the most casuals because half its library is made out for casuals, 360 has one games that was hyped everywhere so casuals would want it, and the ps3.....has like nothing casual so its in last....

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#43 Zoso-8
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It's the cheapest console with almost exactly the same library as the PS3 during an economic recession. /thread
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Its cheaper, nothing more, nothing elseTheOldOlder
I agree, the mass media sees the two as equals, so they obviously choose the cheaper one. Its not because "microsoft tricks them" like ive seen some fanboys say (you know who you are:P) I think sony needs to do a better job stressing the "value" of the PS3, along with a price drop. Whether fanboys want to admit it or not, exclusives (timed or otherwise) play a much smaller role at this stage in the generations, as casuals just want to play games. I think thats why MS is going after DLC for multiplat games. I dunno, i just think the playstation name is still stronger than any game could be, and if they were the same price, PS3 would EASILY outsell 360, regardless of how many features came with it. MS knew this, so they rushed the system out. IMO, i think it was well worth it, RROD and all, because it doesnt seem to be slowing the down any.
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#46 TheGreatOutdoor
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i'm surprised the ps3 had such a lousy month in april though. it seems like it would have picked up with killzone and mlb the show. what does the 360 have?

Walker34

I don't see to many PS2 owners buying a PS3 for MLB 09 the show considering they can get that game for the PS2.

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#47 MerisYaki
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ps3 has nothing but shooters.
That's why.

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#48 alextherussian
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Price is naturally the biggest reason, but there are other factors too. For one an average person will not be able to tell you the difference from a game perspective. Halo and Gears of War are known considerably better then the average top games on the PS3.

Resistance even with a sequel is unknown, Killzone 2 is pretty low on the list too (this is not to say they do not sell, there are well over 20 million ps3's sold, just that they do not play into an average sale as much as halo, or geow or gta might). The games like GTA which the ps brand was known for (i know it was on xbox but much later) come out both at the same time for both consoles with no difference (unless you really need them to be there) and actually superior, from a content perspective on the 360 (though again few people will probably know this).

And whoever thinks that the ps3 is catching the 360 is sorely mistaken. Just so you know, if the 360 sells more then the ps3 (being that the 360 is ahead), they are not catching squat.

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#49 RandolphScott
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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

$199 arcade

Walker34

maybe so. the 360 has better price points. I've never owned the arcade. Can you even save your games without a harddrive though?

The arcade comes with a memory unit. Someone can buy that, a cheap game and be good to go. That's a major factor neither other system has going for it. Doesn't hurt that MS has several bundle deals going at any given time as well that add games to existing SKUs at no extra cost. May not be great games that appeal to us, but that $199 system, at Toys R Us anyway from what I saw today, has Sega Superstar Tennis and several arcade games. Add in a budget priced game like Lost Odyssey/DMC4/Gears of War/Lost Planet/PGR3/Burnout Paradise etc. and a guy can have a next gen system, about seven games, and all for just a little over $200. The lowest cost PS3 with no game costs double that. Their is other, optional costs, and we've all seen those dumb arguments before, so let's not go there again. For the average Joe looking to game on a budget, that looks damned good.

If I were Sony, I'd be bundling in the 80GB system at least Killzone 2, Uncharted, or Resistance 2, and an older Blu Ray movie that still serves as a great showcase for the HD improvement Blu offers, like Casino Royale. I'd also include at least component cables.

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#50 sayyy-gaa
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I think the more important question is why is the PS2 stilloutselling the PS3 occasionally? It seems gamers are more enamored with Sony's last gen as opposed to this gen.