Why Mass Effect 2 will FLOP

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#1 Aku101
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Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

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I...I don't know where to start.
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Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

1. EA still sells a lot of games. That won't change

2. So, you think that Mass Effect 2 is last on everyone's list and that people will buy all the other games in 2010 and not Mass Effect 2?

3. Dragon Age's team has been split between The Old Republic and Mass Effect 2, and Bioware only has a few people working on Mass Effect 2 DLC.

4. Mass Effect has a good-sized fanbase, as do Bioware and EA. And they aren't going to stop until they finish the trilogy.

5. I think you're just pissed that it isn't coming to PS3.

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#5 Inger1
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Facepalms were invented for posts like this...

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As usual, a sound logical arguement from Aku101.
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#7 wolverine4262
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1) Its obvious that this game is getting plenty of polish and is in no way being rushed. 2) sales have nothing to do with whether a title flops or not. Either way, I fully expect this game to sell well like ALL bioware titles 3)NO, bioware has plenty of people and is a huge developer with many locations. Not to mention that EA is giving them plenty of resources 4) I really disagree. ME sold strongly
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[QUOTE="rmfd341"] Dude, where did you get that from? Stop trolling, Mass Effect belongs to EA, and they don't need to rush it, and ME fanbase is very big, the game was very succesful you know?

Actually Bioware has a big fanbase, but ME has the smallest fanbase out of all their games. ME didn't sell very well also.
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#9 sleepingzzz
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How much energy and time do you spend to come up with these threads every day. Don't you get tired of it?

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#10 Sollet
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Anything posted by Aku101 is FACT!
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#11 adamosmaki
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In TC's opinion it will flop because is not on PS3 as all other games that are not on PS3. If Ea announce that it will come to PS3 then probably according to TC the game will get AAAA on PS3 only
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Go away fanboy troll. Your points are all made up from your opinion, none proven fact. Even many PS3 owners want ME2 so your fanboyness just fails.
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Your sig + posting history = no credibility
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

If logic were chocolate bars, you would be a guy who has absolutely no chocolate bars.
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#15 coolguy735
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What's hilarious is if it gets announced for the PS3 you will be eating your words.

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at first i thought this was gonna be an interesting topic then i saw who was posting so i didn't bother reading
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#17 Aku101
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

dsmccracken

If logic were chocolate bars, you would be a guy who has absolutely no chocolate bars.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just making an analysis given the current state of the gaming industry and how games are being treated right now.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

If logic were chocolate bars, you would be a guy who has absolutely no chocolate bars.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just making an analysis given the current state of the gaming industry and how games are being treated right now.

If you had a little more credibility then maybe people would take you a little more seriously. Plus, don't state these things as fact. It's competely stupid.

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#19 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

If logic were chocolate bars, you would be a guy who has absolutely no chocolate bars.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just making an analysis given the current state of the gaming industry and how games are being treated right now.

So, you're saying that nobody will buy Mass Effect 2 because everyone would rather spend their money on other games of not well-established franchises? And everyone here knows you're a massive Cow, and won't listen to anything you say.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

If logic were chocolate bars, you would be a guy who has absolutely no chocolate bars.

Don't shoot the messenger I'm just making an analysis given the current state of the gaming industry and how games are being treated right now.

I would argue that niche game get more love from their developer because they know the quiality will help the word of mouth. ME has a great fanbase from what I've seen and the first was well recieved by critics. I'm sure it will do well.

Another Aku101 absurdity that will last for many pages.

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Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

1. EA published ME1, and it was a huge success and sold very well.

2. I'm pretty sure ME2 is one of the most highly anticipated games of 2010. EA is putting a ton of money into their marketing, and everyone will know about the game when it is released.

3. This is Bioware man! Of course ME2 will be great!

4. I'm sorry, i just have to laugh at this. ME has a HUGE fanbase! How ignorant can you get?!?

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how is this kid not banned yet? Is he only here to keep the ratings up?
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Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

Aku101

And this is coming from a ps3 fanboy? Seriously theres a connection from your notorious pro-ps3 posts (and your sig) to you bashing ME2

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Another Aku101 absurdity that will last for many pages.

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Not if I do this...

HIII-YYAAAAHHH

Mass Effect a flop eh?

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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

Reasons why it will be a flop and ME3 will never happen:

1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.

with_teeth26

1. EA published ME1, and it was a huge success and sold very well.

2. I'm pretty sure ME2 is one of the most highly anticipated games of 2010. EA is putting a ton of money into their marketing, and everyone will know about the game when it is released.

3. This is Bioware man! Of course ME2 will be great!

4. I'm sorry, i just have to laugh at this. ME has a HUGE fanbase! How ignorant can you get?!?

EA didn't publish Mass Effect. Microsoft did.

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#26 Next-Gen-Tec
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5. I think you're just pissed that it isn't coming to PS3.

Phoenix534
Probably this one.
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Ugh, you're like the Cow equivalent of Nidget ¬_¬

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#28 skinny_man_69
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You just made this thread because it isn't on the PS3 didn't you :P

Also, saying that Mass Effect doens't have a huge fanbase discredited any hope your post had at being believable

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#29 Phoenix534
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Ugh, you're like the Cow equivalent of Nidget ¬_¬

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I don't know. I think he's worse than Nidget.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Another Aku101 absurdity that will last for many pages.

heysharpshooter

Not if I do this...

HIII-YYAAAAHHH

Mass Effect a flop eh?

BAHAHAHHAHA pure ownage

for those who are unfamiliar, read Aku's thread about chess requiring no skill

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There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1

And you know only cows use the word "lemmings" (and vise versa)

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#33 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Another Aku101 absurdity that will last for many pages.

Inger1

Not if I do this...

HIII-YYAAAAHHH

Mass Effect a flop eh?

BAHAHAHHAHA pure ownage

for those who are unfamiliar, read Aku's thread about chess requiring no skill

That thread was hilarious.

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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"]There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. Yankees718

And you know only cows use the word "lemmings" (and vise versa)

What makes you think I'm a cow?
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[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="IamLevel1"]There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1

And you know only cows use the word "lemmings" (and vise versa)

What makes you think I'm a cow?

The fact you are probably Aku or one of her little grade school friends making a brand new account to troll nonsense.

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#36 Phoenix534
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There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1

Mass Effect was anything but a flop.

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There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1
That is very bad logic, refer to KZ2. It has a better chance of being a great game, which is all that matters.
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#38 Heartagram_03
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I think I have a translation for the cow. "Mass Effect 2 will flop because It's not coming to my console, now I'm stating false idiotic information just to ease the pain while others enjoy this masterpiece. *dad hold me*" :cry:

Either way the first was a huge success and EA has been through a rough path but currently they have been proving themselves worthy. Bioware is also a smart company that really care for their fanbase. Judging by gameplay, interviews, trailers that Mass Effect 2 has to offer, you can truly tell that Bioware learned from their mistakes on the 1st and will improve on the sequel.

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#39 IamLevel1
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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"][QUOTE="Yankees718"]

And you know only cows use the word "lemmings" (and vise versa)

heysharpshooter

What makes you think I'm a cow?

The fact you are probably Aku or one of her little grade school friends making a brand new account to troll nonsense.

I've lurked on SW for a longtime before joining I am familiar with the terms. Your posts however seem to be always anti-PC/PS3 and pro-360. Pot calling the kettle black much?
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#40 skinny_man_69
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There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1
How exactly did Mass Effect flop? Are we talking about the score Gamespot gave it? Because it did not flop in sales and is currently standing as the 19th highest rated game on the 360 also gaining many awards. Not to mention it being my personal Game of the Generation :D
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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"]There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. Phoenix534

Mass Effect was anything but a flop.

8.5 on 360 failing to meet AAA hype?
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="IamLevel1"]There seems to be many insecure lemmings in this thread. ME 2 actually has a good chance of flopping considering the first one flopped. IamLevel1

Mass Effect was anything but a flop.

8.5 on 360 failing to meet AAA hype?

GameRankings 360: 90.71%
PC: 89.78%

Metacritic 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

MobyGames 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

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#43 Jake145222
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Mass Effect 1 was not a flop. Try using logic. It comes in great handy.
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#44 Mogotoo
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1. EA is the publisher and many people still hate EA. Given their current practices, they force devs to rush their games leading to mediocre games like LOTR: Conquest.

2. The recession. People are buying games that are well-known only right now and the publishers know this. Mass Effect isn't a well established IP, next year it might even get lost in all of the great upcoming titles just like many games in 2008

3. Bioware is spread too thin. With Dragon Age origins, SW: TOR, Mass Effect DLC, chacnes are Bioware will not have put as much effort into ME2 as they would have liked. Not enough manpower. Making ME2's quality to be less and thereofre get less sales.

4. Mass Effect doesn't have a huge fanbase. It's a very niche title and those fans expect greatness from ME2, but chances are it will be of less quality than ME1 which is why it will flop. This will lead to a smaller fanbase, less sales and the ME franchise will be abandoned.Aku101

I don't see how points 2 and 4 have to do with the actual quality of the game. Unless you'e referring to sale floppage. If that's the case, forget what I just said :P.

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#45 IamLevel1
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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Mass Effect was anything but a flop.

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8.5 on 360 failing to meet AAA hype?

GameRankings 360: 90.71%
PC: 89.78%

Metacritic 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

MobyGames 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

Sorry we only use gamespot scores here.
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#46 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"][QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

Mass Effect was anything but a flop.

Yankees718

8.5 on 360 failing to meet AAA hype?

GameRankings 360: 90.71%
PC: 89.78%

Metacritic 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

MobyGames 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

And we have pwnage.

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#47 heysharpshooter
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[QUOTE="Yankees718"]

[QUOTE="IamLevel1"] 8.5 on 360 failing to meet AAA hype? IamLevel1

GameRankings 360: 90.71%
PC: 89.78%

Metacritic 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

MobyGames 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

Sorry we only use gamespot scores here.

I wasn't aware you were able to dictate terms of argument. And I wasn't aware GS was the authoritative reviewer on games AAA status.

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#48 IamLevel1
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[QUOTE="IamLevel1"][QUOTE="Yankees718"]

GameRankings 360: 90.71%
PC: 89.78%

Metacritic 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

MobyGames 360: 91/100
PC: 89/100

heysharpshooter

Sorry we only use gamespot scores here.

I wasn't aware you were able to dictate terms of argument. And I wasn't aware GS was the authoritative reviewer on games AAA status.

Read the forum rules and info regarding System Wars. It doesn't take long and it saves you alot of embarrassment in the future.
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#49 Jake145222
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@Iamlevel I know you didn't just say we only use gamespot scores here did you? How come cows bring up metacritic on every single post dealing with ratings.
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#50 Fizzman
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So much fail. Bioware has never let us down, and some fanboy isnt gonna change that.