Why Phones Will Replace Consoles!

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

I don't see smartphones replacing consoles. But I do see the handheld market taking a huge hit from smartphones. I know I can't wait to get my money so I can get the HTC Evo 3D. I pick it over the 3DS. The Evo 3D and the Vita will be my two handheld gaming devices.

SakusEnvoy

Yet consoles are still selling better than ever.Randoggy

Of course consoles are selling ;)

I was just giving people food for thought there because despite sounding absolutely ludacris there could be something more to it. I don't see them killing consoles but really in a world with corporate greed and companies so eager to get their gadgets in your hands who knows what the future holds?

But at this moment in time I would say no. Consoles are not going anywhere.

The problem with that is no developer is going to want to spend millions of dollars on a development budget to make something like Halo, Zelda, or Uncharted and then sell for only $10 or less, and the mobile phone market would not want to pay $50 to $60 for a AAA budget title. Phones will never replace dedicated gaming devices, even handheld consoles. If Vinyl is still selling well, if e-Readers and still selling well, and if movies and books are still selling well, I see no reason why phones would replace anything other than your old phone.

DarkGamer007

This is one of the most ridiculous statements I think I've ever heard. Seriously, the closest thing phones would replace is handhelds.

Phones won't replace consoles.

Something that does both will replace phones and consoles. But that's looking too far into the future.

No buttons. /topicBad-School-Girl

I don't have enough time to go over all of your rediculous statements, so i'll say something everyone else missed.

iPhone is 960x640.

That's 640p, 640 horizontal lines in a progressive scan.

Consoles offer 720p, which is 1280x720.

Learn to understand resolution.

[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]No buttons. /topicZIVX

I don't want to have a contract to game.

I would rather just purchase the console and not have to pay anymore extra money just to play the system.

Also Smart phones usually costs more then Consoles at first then you have to have a contract to be tied to a horrible service because most of the good phones are going with AT&T and they have terrible service in my area.

Why Phones Won't Replace Consoles: No Buttons.donalbane

This. The discusion should have ended with the first post.

[QUOTE="Jane_22"]

mobile gamer? lawl?

ill leave it for the farmville gamers, thank you

Olimar_the_Min

[QUOTE="donalbane"]Why Phones Won't Replace Consoles: No Buttons.DarkLink77

Nothing to see here but comedy.:lol:

[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

[QUOTE="Bad-School-Girl"]No buttons. /topicNintendo_Ownes7

I don't want to have a contract to game.

I would rather just purchase the console and not have to pay anymore extra money just to play the system.

Also Smart phones usually costs more then Consoles at first then you have to have a contract to be tied to a horrible service because most of the good phones are going with AT&T and they have terrible service in my area.

And despite the fact that big hardware upgrades are released every year, the average smartphone game will still work on weak hardware/old smartphones. Most iOS games are still designed to work all the way back to the first iPhone 2G in '07.

Upgrading a smartphone is also really easy, and usually costs no extra money. If you buy a contracted smartphone for $100 in 2008, and decide to upgrade in 2010, you can usually sell your old smartphone for $100+ on ebay/gazelle/electronics trade-in store because people are willing to pay that kind of money to get an out-of-contract phone. So, in 2010, you essentially get a new phone with better hardware for free.

What a hilarious argument OP, unfortunately everyone knows you are far from being right. Consoles always walk over the gaming capabilities of a phone. No one wants to sit down and play a phone game in all of its high quality glory because they all are basically crap. I'd take a PS3 game over any iPhone game.

Furthermore, you should be comparing an iphone to a 360 or a PS3 because the wii is just barely even in the same category. Honestly the games are what's important and I have zero faith that a phone will ever top the excellent games being put out by the current consoles.

[QUOTE="ManicAce"]Show me a gamer who would replace his console with a phone, then show me the gamer who'd pay $60 for a mobile game.Olimar_the_Min

There was a showing of some cellphone with Nvidia's new Kal-El cellphone processor, hooked up to an HDTV and running Lost Planet 2 1920x1080 at medium, 30-40 fps. I'm not following smartphone tech, but how long untill you can connect keaboard/mouse to that, efectively making it a powerful gaming device wherever there is a screen and kb/m available, while providing cellphone versions of those games everywhere else?

and pc's....oh you mean they are extempt? sorry no smartphones and tablets are becoming the future of commputing.

What a hilarious argument OP, unfortunately everyone knows you are far from being right. Consoles always walk over the gaming capabilities of a phone. No one wants to sit down and play a phone game in all of its high quality glory because they all are basically crap. I'd take a PS3 game over any iPhone game.

Furthermore, you should be comparing an iphone to a 360 or a PS3 because the wii is just barely even in the same category. Honestly the games are what's important and I have zero faith that a phone will ever top the excellent games being put out by the current consoles.

jer_1

Sorry but no. Considering the video gaming industry (whcih console gaming takes up a large portion of) is bigger than the music industry and I think has surpassed the movie industry also, phones will never replace consoles. People like to game way too much on their consoles and even if people need phones, I feel like a console be it 360, Wii or PS3 is much more appealing than an Ipad to most people.

Video games have been around for many years and have been on many different platforms. But when I see video games on phones it just seems like something is missing. Oh yeah, buttons.

Er, no.

my iphone has games like infinity blade where the graphics are better than all of the console 'graphics kings'

Firebird-5

Mostly artwork. Your PowerVR GPU is no match against AMD Xenos, let alone AMD Radeon HD 4670/RV730.

Hint, Google Intel GMA 600 and 3DMarks 2005 or 3DMarks 2006

There was a showing of some cellphone with Nvidia's new Kal-El cellphone processor, hooked up to an HDTV and running Lost Planet 2 1920x1080 at medium, 30-40 fps. I'm not following smartphone tech, but how long untill you can connect keaboard/mouse to that, efectively making it a powerful gaming device wherever there is a screen and kb/m available, while providing cellphone versions of those games everywhere else?

QQabitmoar

Do you have the link? I have http://www.nordichardware.com/news/69-cpu-chipset/43349-nvidia-kal-el-runs-lost-planet-2-on-android-tablet.html

This "Lost Planet 2" version seems to be like running on low settings.

Kal-El's 12 CUDA core is lower than NVIDIA ION's 16 CUDA cores.

..hahaha..no

[QUOTE="jer_1"]

What a hilarious argument OP, unfortunately everyone knows you are far from being right. Consoles always walk over the gaming capabilities of a phone. No one wants to sit down and play a phone game in all of its high quality glory because they all are basically crap. I'd take a PS3 game over any iPhone game.

Furthermore, you should be comparing an iphone to a 360 or a PS3 because the wii is just barely even in the same category. Honestly the games are what's important and I have zero faith that a phone will ever top the excellent games being put out by the current consoles.

Olimar_the_Min

LOL at quad Intel GMA 600 setup vs AMD Xenos.

My tablets's Radeon HD 6250M smacks Intel GMA 600 several times over in 3DMarks 2005/2006.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-GMA-600.31181.0.html

Intel's PowerVR 535 (aka Intel GMA 600) runs at 400Mhz while normal PowerVR 535 runs at 200Mhz.

Sony Vita runs quad PowerVR 543MP4 setup i.e. quad PowerVR 543 cores at 200Mhz. According to Imagination Technologies, multi-core PowerVR 543 scales 95 percent.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="reiv"]If there was a phone that could do everything that a PS3 or 360 could do, and I could hook it into my TV, and I could use a controller with it, then I wouldn't bother with a console.reiv

"Yes, I know that the consoles are not meant to be a multimedia tool, but sadly with XBox 360 and PS3's forays into the video player and movies market, they now have to compete with smart phones, which destroy them in everyway."

this is where I stopped reading:roll:

how does it "destroy them" when the consoles can play movies in 1080p and the smartphones CAN'T? Can you shove a bluray into a smartphone?

and please show me one smartphone game that "destroys" Gears or Uncharted, it's actually quite the opposite. No phone game even comes close to the type of experience that a $60 AAA console games can give.

[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="Olimar_the_Min"]If Buttons are so important to gaming, then look at the software sales. The numbers speak for themselves, you don't need buttons. You just need amazing gameplay.Olimar_the_Min

Super Street Fighter IV iOS edition does not have exact same features as with Xbox 360's version i.e. basic backdrops.

For example,

SSFIV iOS edition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86W8btl3Q-E

SSFIV PC edition running on AMD C-50 APU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTIVoFJmfqwNotice the backdrop detail difference.

PS AMD Z-01 APU is just lower power version C-50 APU.

640x960 is NOT 960p

if anything its more like 640p

cant wait for consoles to get phone ports

Crysis 3: touch screen to begin

I don't think consoles will drown but this is precisely why I think MS is going to be next to bow out. They are like Sega was at this point.

Nintendo have said Apple are a threat. Phil Harrision (who should actually be taken more seriously now his arrogance has calmed down) has said it. Analysts have said it (including TC). Top studios have said it and while consoles are likely not going to die (PC gaming isn't over) its had an effect on consoles anyway because its taken a large chunk out the market.

I think MS is going next because (like Sega) they are so focused on the competition in front of them they won't see Apple coming. Sega was so focused on trumping Nintendo it didn't see Playstation coming.

Phones will not replace consoles since they are different markets altogether. Phone games are a race to the bottom for the most part--make a cheap game for a cheap price and sell millions of copies. Rather than getting the best games available you get a game that is good for $1 - $10. Games like Street Fighter IV that supposedly have all the same features? Actually the newest version has less than half the characters as Arcade Edition, only has 4 buttons, has laggy online play, doesn't support a proper arcade stick, less modes... The console version is a lot more expensive, but comes with better controls and several times the content.

This is gamespot for dedicated gamers, may the Barbie Horse Adventure gamers please get out

This is gamespot for dedicated gamers, may the Barbie Horse Adventure gamers please get out

mlevenimed

No controlls.

No big screen.

No long battery when you play.

Not playing a whole campaign on a phone.

Silly Angry Birds is barely a game.

I've got an Xperia Play and it's good but no where near consoles.

To everyone who says that phones aren't already becoming more like consoles than you know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onltE7Qkgm8

Some Droids like Droid X have HDMI out, and you can play emulators and media through your big screen television. Some of these paid emulators from the Android Market even have Bluetooth support with the Wiimote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwJQIoQ9rRQ&feature=related

I wrote a blog on this a while back, and I agree.

People's sole objection to the idea will fall under three categories. Performance, buttons and platform loyalty.

They don't consider that consumers as a whole don't care about performance, so long as the game offers a enjoyable experience. That it's possible for them to use their game pad of choice with a mobile phone, and that game pad add-ons can be developed. Platform loyalty prevents people from considering what's actually practical.

Gaming as we know it is going to hit a cost wall, and developers alienated from the high cost traditional markets will be looking elsewhere.

Ok so apparently glorified flash games will take over multi million dollar buget titles. Somehow I don't buy it

Ok so apparently glorified flash games will take over multi million dollar buget titles. Somehow I don't buy it

steviebhoy6sic6

Glorified flash games? The market is young, but give it credit.

I don't understand how and educated long time market analyst can so easily confuse and mess up his consoles and words in the original post(For instance HTC and Galaxy(which is Samsung, TC). Both these brands of phones run Android as their choice OS). Doesn't make sense unless it's just a 10 year old kid trying to start a flamewar. This is also supported by the FACT that the entire OP is full of cliche and stereotypes about gamers.

Since when are girls the envy of gamers? Gaming target audience is mostly married men so already TC is so wrong it's ridiculous. I'm a good looking athletic guy, girls literally swoon over me and I'm also a hardcore gamer. While I may not be describing ALL gamers I just had to say that I believe MOST gamers are guys just like me. Just regular guys that you wouldn't even know they were gamers till you seen their living room or game dungeon.

And as probably 100 people have already said, no buttons.

EDIT:I forgot to add that game developers won't allow the Iphone or Android to overtake the modible market. Games are too cheap on the systems. Even Angry birds devs barely made any money off their 100 million+ copies sold. The 3DS is just doing to badly because Nintendo loaded it with gimmicks and hasn't released a single good game that isn't a re-hash of a nintendo 64 game. Also, most people probably just think it's a normal DS with a 3d screen, Nintendo would have done well to go with a name change for this handheld to show the consumer that it is, in fact, a new system and not just a different name like they've been doing for years.

And as probably 100 people have already said, no buttons.

F1ame_Shie1d

And I've already said you can use a wireless game pad, or there will be 3rd party add-ons.

[QUOTE="steviebhoy6sic6"]

Ok so apparently glorified flash games will take over multi million dollar buget titles. Somehow I don't buy it

AnnoyedDragon

Glorified flash games? The market is young, but give it credit.

ok i will be honest i did go a bit over the top with that but think about the majority of games that are played on these phones a lot of the highest selling ones are glorified flash games

[QUOTE="F1ame_Shie1d"]

And as probably 100 people have already said, no buttons.

AnnoyedDragon

And I've already said you can use a wireless game pad, or there will be 3rd party add-ons.