Why should I trust Sony and buy a PS3?

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

You are mad at sony about hardware failures but you got a 360?Blackification

the irony

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

martyr2k6

Looks like you just want to start a flame war. I'm sure people could list quite a few reasons, but you already know the benefits. You seem well informed enough. You're probably waiting for someone to give you a reason so that you have reason to argue. You obviously don't want a ps3 and will never buy one, so why bother?

You are mad at sony about hardware failures but you got a 360?Blackification

LOL...

For me it comes down to games and there's allot of great PS3 exclusive games coming that I'm looking forward to and that's the bottom line. It seems TC is factoring everything BUT games...

wait till next year like in the middle of the year to get a ps3 cause by then most likely more good exclusives come out for it and by then that when i think a ps3 will be worth my money about the backward compability why dont u just keep your ps2 thats what im doing i still play my ps2 and if u do wait the good games the ps3 has now will be like $20 and then u could come home wit like 50 games:D

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

verbtex

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

I smell flamebait.

I doubt you had any intent of basing a buying purchase on what System Wars has to say. It sounds more like a "prove me wrong" argument, and those never go anywhere. Buy one, don't buy one, what's one purchase? Good luck.

[QUOTE="martyr2k6"]

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

Overclockd

Looks like you just want to start a flame war. I'm sure people could list quite a few reasons, but you already know the benefits. You seem well informed enough. You're probably waiting for someone to give you a reason so that you have reason to argue. You obviously don't want a ps3 and will never buy one, so why bother?

Exactly what I was getting at.

+2

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

rybe1025

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

I'm not mad at microsoft.

Besides, Sony losing $3.32 billion isn't as bad as Microsoft losing $4 billion so far...now...is it?

Edit: Oh wait..that was in 2005...so..I wonder what the damage is now...let me look it up.

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

rybe1025

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

There's a difference between trying to make a profit and doing a disservice to the customer. One of my major quelms is why the 360 doesn't come with free Wi-fi.

If you want us to walk you through the reasons, sorry. Do some research.

Alan

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

martyr2k6

though it is quite obvious you are going for flame ...i still find myself quite curious how sony burned you on your

ps2 (the ps3 i can see an argument for but the ps2?)

the walkman??? are you kidding? what you got mad cause you only had 8-tracks and it wouldn't play them?

and then a discman? really they all skipped at first, then got ok and became too cheap to even think about a brand...

so how did you get so burned? start by explaining the walkman since that is the oldest one.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

verbtex

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

I'm not mad at microsoft.

Besides, Sony losing $3.32 billion isn't as bad as Microsoft losing $4 billion so far...now...is it?

Edit: Oh wait..that was in 2005...so..I wonder what the damage is now...let me look it up.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

ChrnoTrigger

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

There's a difference between trying to make a profit and doing a disservice to the customer. One of my major quelms is why the 360 doesn't come with free Wi-fi.

Go ahead and look it up. MS is making money now :lol: MS is in the black and that even includes the money they lost when the extended the 360 warranties.rybe1025

Hold on.

Where did you find that 3.3 billion dollar loss from? This in 2007 says that their losses have only been 1.1 billion USD thus far.

Still looking for some current Xbox360 news.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

rybe1025

Companies like to make money I know it is a crazy concept for some. Do not be mad at MS because Sony has lost $3.32 billion at least so far on the PS3.

There's a difference between trying to make a profit and doing a disservice to the customer. One of my major quelms is why the 360 doesn't come with free Wi-fi.

Do you understand what i'm saying? Because you sound like you just want to think of reasons to go against me rather than provide reasons as to why i'm wrong. :|

Unless you don't think it's stupid that the even the PSP and DS have Wi-fi yet the 360 doesn't. :?

Because it has good games you'll find nowhere else.ONLYDOD

[QUOTE="rybe1025"] Go ahead and look it up. MS is making money now :lol: MS is in the black and that even includes the money they lost when the extended the 360 warranties.verbtex

Hold on.

Where did you find that 3.3 billion dollar loss from.

Give me some evidence.

So far, I can't find any evidence on your argument.

And, I can't find any evidence on this side either. =/

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/24/playstation-3-s-cost-to-Sony-so-far-3-32-billion/

[QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"] Go ahead and look it up. MS is making money now :lol: MS is in the black and that even includes the money they lost when the extended the 360 warranties.rybe1025

Hold on.

Where did you find that 3.3 billion dollar loss from.

Give me some evidence.

So far, I can't find any evidence on your argument.

And, I can't find any evidence on this side either. =/

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/24/playstation-3-s-cost-to-Sony-so-far-3-32-billion/

I see.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because it has good games you'll find nowhere else.Toriko42

Breaking news, guys! You can find MGS4, God of War, LBP, Motorstorm, R2, KZ2 and much more on the 360!

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

rybe1025

Dude, can you read? I have no clue where you're getting all these ideas that say I think Microsoft is an evil corporation. And Nowhere did I mention that I didn't like 360, infact I love it. It's got a large library of games and some of my best gaming moments were on the 360. :|

But saying that the MS is "just trying to make a profit" is stupid, they're screwing us over big time with paying for basic neccesities such as online gaming and wi-fi..

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

ChrnoTrigger

Dude, can you read? I have no clue where you're getting all these ideas that say I think Microsoft is an evil corporation. And Nowhere did I mention that I didn't like 360, infact I love it. It's got a large library of games and some of my best gaming moments were on the 360. :|

But saying that the MS is "just trying to make a profit" is stupid, they're screwing us over big time with paying for basic neccesities such as online gaming and wi-fi..

He didn't say that MS is just trying to make a profit.

I did, indirectly.

My point was that sony SEEMS to care more with its sale price compared to manufacturing costs, and IT SEEMS that Microsoft cares less because their manufacturing costs are less than their sale price.

Who knows, though, I could be wrong.:?

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"] Go ahead and look it up. MS is making money now :lol: MS is in the black and that even includes the money they lost when the extended the 360 warranties.verbtex

Hold on.

Where did you find that 3.3 billion dollar loss from.

Give me some evidence.

So far, I can't find any evidence on your argument.

And, I can't find any evidence on this side either. =/

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/24/playstation-3-s-cost-to-Sony-so-far-3-32-billion/

I see.

But even then, if you count in some of the profits from the PS2 still...doesn't that still put Sony in a better posistion?

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

verbtex

Dude, can you read? I have no clue where you're getting all these ideas that say I think Microsoft is an evil corporation. And Nowhere did I mention that I didn't like 360, infact I love it. It's got a large library of games and some of my best gaming moments were on the 360. :|

But saying that the MS is "just trying to make a profit" is stupid, they're screwing us over big time with paying for basic neccesities such as online gaming and wi-fi..

He didn't say that MS is just trying to make a profit.

I did, indirectly.

My point was that sony SEEMS to care more with its sale price compared to manufacturing costs, and IT SEEMS that Microsoft cares less because their manufacturing costs are less than their sale price.

Who knows, though, I could be wrong.:?

Re-read the first page. He's passing MS because he thinks that its "A company that's just trying to make a profit!"

[QUOTE="verbtex"][QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="verbtex"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"] Go ahead and look it up. MS is making money now :lol: MS is in the black and that even includes the money they lost when the extended the 360 warranties.rybe1025

Hold on.

Where did you find that 3.3 billion dollar loss from.

Give me some evidence.

So far, I can't find any evidence on your argument.

And, I can't find any evidence on this side either. =/

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/06/24/playstation-3-s-cost-to-Sony-so-far-3-32-billion/

I see.

But even then, if you count in some of the profits from the PS2 still...doesn't that still put Sony in a better posistion?

Okay.

Thanks for helping me understand where you were coming from.:)

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

verbtex

Dude, can you read? I have no clue where you're getting all these ideas that say I think Microsoft is an evil corporation. And Nowhere did I mention that I didn't like 360, infact I love it. It's got a large library of games and some of my best gaming moments were on the 360. :|

But saying that the MS is "just trying to make a profit" is stupid, they're screwing us over big time with paying for basic neccesities such as online gaming and wi-fi..

He didn't say that MS is just trying to make a profit.

I did, indirectly.

My point was that sony SEEMS to care more with its sale price compared to manufacturing costs, and IT SEEMS that Microsoft cares less because their manufacturing costs are less than their sale price.

Who knows, though, I could be wrong.:?

All 3 console makers want to make money this is not a charity. They just may go about it in different ways.

[QUOTE="verbtex"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]

@ ChrnoTrigger

You asked if i understand what you are saying and honestly I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess you think MS is a evil company because it did not include Wi-Fi. Ok fine to each their own. Nothing really to say cause I do not determine if I like a console or not on the basis of Wi-Fi.

rybe1025

Dude, can you read? I have no clue where you're getting all these ideas that say I think Microsoft is an evil corporation. And Nowhere did I mention that I didn't like 360, infact I love it. It's got a large library of games and some of my best gaming moments were on the 360. :|

But saying that the MS is "just trying to make a profit" is stupid, they're screwing us over big time with paying for basic neccesities such as online gaming and wi-fi..

He didn't say that MS is just trying to make a profit.

I did, indirectly.

My point was that sony SEEMS to care more with its sale price compared to manufacturing costs, and IT SEEMS that Microsoft cares less because their manufacturing costs are less than their sale price.

Who knows, though, I could be wrong.:?

All 3 console makers want to make money this is not a charity. They just may go about it in different ways.

You actually made some good points this time, but what MS does is worse than Sony IMO. Sony sees it's market in the future and are willing to take the loss for now, while MS has been screwing us for some time now.

I mean c'mon, you get free online, blu-ray and wi-fi for $50 more. The only thing that's lacking atm is the games for the PS3. But that could change by the end of this year.

I just hope MS releases a new SKU for the current price with better hardware and wi-fi >_> Right now I have a long ethernet cable connecting my router to the 360.

Why should you trust sony?

They care about you.

They lose around $200 per console made

They don't over price it for a profit like Microsoft does.

They care for their customers, and yet, people give them not much of a chance, because they are in last place right now.

Edit: Then again, they probably don't include the shipping charges, and the charges the stores take for their profit / salaries.

verbtex

Unless you live in Europe where they made us wait 4 months longer, charged $200 more, removed the 20Gb option, removed hardware nackwards compatabilty, dragged out the Dualshock 3 release until they sold some more sixaxis pads at over inflated prices.... yeah they just love Europe.

TC if you dont want a PS3, dont buy it. :|II_Seraphim_II

Exactly.

If you want one, get it, if not, dont.

Either way I personally dont care.

if you see it worth the price get it.....

i will never spend more then 250 on a console, spending more on a toy is a joke in my eyes

cant be mad about games being 60$+ hell i spent 69.99 on ff 3 back when our money was worth more and i had less of it.

Well, there's two questions here so I'll take a look at them indevidualy.

Q) Why should I trust Sony?

A) You shouldn't. Nor should you trust Microsoft. They both lie. Both of them have told lies about how incredibly powerful their hardware is. Both of them have lied about what is/isn't necissary for gaming. Both of them lie.

As far as reliability is concerned, Sony has done pretty well over all. It's not Sony that had the RROD problem.

Q) Why should I buy a PS3?

A) MGS4, Little Big Planet, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, God of War 3, Resistance 2 etc.

well, if you don't like the games on it, and if you don't like sony, then don't buy one.

reasons to have one

1. reliable hardware

2. you get what you pay for

3. exclusives

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

martyr2k6

You shouldn't.

PS3 Is the weakest this gen.

[QUOTE="martyr2k6"]

I have been burnt, for almost 10 years now by the PS2, and even before that... it was with the Walkman, the Discman, a number of DVD players, HDTV, and a Shelf System all branded by Sony. Since I have dropped out of the Sony side of the console wars, I keep finding myself looking for a REAL reason to buy the PS3 or even a PSP.

So I turn to the loyal fanboys of Sony in search of a REAL legitimate reason to go through with buying a PS3 or PSP over maintaining speed on building their competitions business. Now keep in mind, I am WELL aware of what Sony has to offer across these two platforms and their connectivity between each other, but am looking for serious reasons to give them another shot.

They have ditched backwards compatability, their console STILL costs too much, and they are STILL having serious issues with their firmware/software updates. Why the hell would I want a system like this. when I have every other gaming system to spend my money on? What is the REAL benefit here?

I love my XBox 360 and my Wii, so tell me WHY I should have PS3 in my collection...

Xbox360_4_Me

You shouldn't.

PS3 Is the weakest this gen.

HA, no that title goes to the wii. in terms of both hardware and software.

[QUOTE="Blackification"]You are mad at sony about hardware failures but you got a 360?jdt532

LOL...

For me it comes down to games and there's allot of great PS3 exclusive games coming that I'm looking forward to and that's the bottom line. It seems TC is factoring everything BUT games...

The ps3 has a 99.9% failure rate, every guy who owns a ps3 has had problems, OMG!!! i'm throwing mine out the window now, i'll stick to my third, reliable 360 :D lol...