Why some console gamers refuse to accept this fact?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No. That's just closed-mindedness. Elitism would be when one assumes that the opinions of others are held due to some flaw or limitation (age, financial means or technical aptitude) or when one professes that those whose opinions differ from their own are inferior.lowe0

I see where you're getting at,but most of the behavior you described is heavily present among console fanboys too...

For example,I've seen countless times a PS3 fanboy calling 360 gamers kids due to MS's interest in "casual" gaming.Same goes with financial means,for example,a 360 fanboy calling PS3 gamers poor,saying they don't have enough money to pay for XBL,that they depend on their parents money,etc,etc...

I'll give you technical aptitude,though,that one's exclusive to PC elitists,console fanboys can't argue about tecnical issues,due to "pick up and play" simplicity of the console hardware...

As for inferiority insults,well,that's a thing present among all fanboys,they all conider those who disagree with them inferior,by resorting to multiple stereotypes...

360 gamers are kids,PC gamers are snobs,PS3 gamers are drones,Nintendo gamers are based on nostalgia,etc,etc...

Still,I may agree the strongest inferiority insults are most commonly used by PC fanboys,but they're by no means exclusive to them...

Well,I've been around SW for a few months now(though atm,I'm in the process of leaving GS,and switching to OCN),so I really have no idea how things were around here back in 2006.Also,you have quite a long posting history,would take some time to go through all that :P

The reason I often call you out is since I honestly can't remember a time when you called out a consolite for his hypocrisy,stupidity,etc,and well,there's plenty of that around here...

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]PC is also the best if you are a multiplat gamer mainly.DaBrainz

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]PC is also the best if you are a multiplat gamer mainly.MK-Professor

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

most people are happy just gaming get over it, we know you seem to prefer measuring your e-dick by spouting this stuff which to a lot of folks really doesnt mean all that much.

PS some of us have a thing called preference, KB and M IS NOT always the superior controller in a couple genre's like sports and KB and M on racing games is flat out horrid.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]PC is also the best if you are a multiplat gamer mainly.MK-Professor

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

You cannot deny that when it comes to GTA4,we got a bad port with signifficant issues directly affecting playability.It took a long time before issues finally got fixed.

I do agree with Dead Space controls,though,they work perfectly fine with k/m scheme,I really can't find any flaws.Controls were great,never getting into the way of the gameplay,and ruining the immersion...

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]PC is also the best if you are a multiplat gamer mainly.MK-Professor

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.

back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

Most TV's can't benefit from resolutions above HD.

Is a PC from 2005 also a B-class gaming platform?

Then I guess every year millions of PC's transform from A-class to B-class to C-class depending on age.

Don't try to think too hard, I know it hurts.

The same VERY OLD argument.

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Hermits have become so loud lately that people are too tired to debate them, but so much of what they say just isn't true.

It's like system wars and it's own little logic pocket, people forget if they want to check the weather they can just go outside and see if it's raining. Doesn't matter what the weatherman says.

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PC gaming systems costs more. Games are less available at retail. Systems specifications are often a problem and not universal, especially when new tech comes out. Multiplat quality usually follows the leader. The greatest of "pc exclusives" always go to consoles, and haven't shown much performance difference. Amazing exclusives are only "amazing" because they're exclusive.

I have a gaming PC and I haven't bought anything for it in years. I like my consoles, I like the ease of them, and I like not having to tweak and install and adjust constantly. I also like "owning" my games (an outdated concept, I know). I like major releases, I like big budget games, I like a universal medium on which to play them, I like small niche games and I like them being relatively easy to translate because of controller mapping. I do enough programming and installing at work, that I want gaming to be fun and immersive and I've been playing long enough that my EGO isn't inflated or deflated based on pretending my medium is superior.

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All the PC Elitism does is chase away new players, and lets douchey people feel even more validated about acting like a douche. I salute the teabagging generation.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] That is simply not true. These days mp games are developed on consoles (mostly xbox) and ported (poorly) to PC. For example GTAIV ran like crap on PC, also the controls on deadspace sucked because they were designed for DA and poorly ported to PC with mouse control. Rocker6

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

You cannot deny that when it comes to GTA4,we got a bad port with signifficant issues directly affecting playability.It took a long time before issues finally got fixed.

I do agree with Dead Space controls,though,they work perfectly fine with k/m scheme,I really can't find any flaws.Controls were great,never getting into the way of the gameplay,and ruining the immersion...

It didn't have any problems for me, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] That is simply not true. These days mp games are developed on consoles (mostly xbox) and ported (poorly) to PC. For example GTAIV ran like crap on PC, also the controls on deadspace sucked because they were designed for DA and poorly ported to PC with mouse control. ZombieKiller7

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.

back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

Most TV's can't benefit from resolutions above HD.

Is a PC from 2005 also a B-class gaming platform?

Then I guess every year millions of PC's transform from A-class to B-class to C-class depending on age.

Don't try to think too hard, I know it hurts.

PC's from 2005 are also a B-class gaming platforms ;)

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

MK-Professor

You cannot deny that when it comes to GTA4,we got a bad port with signifficant issues directly affecting playability.It took a long time before issues finally got fixed.

I do agree with Dead Space controls,though,they work perfectly fine with k/m scheme,I really can't find any flaws.Controls were great,never getting into the way of the gameplay,and ruining the immersion...

It didn't have any problems for me, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version.

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.

back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

MK-Professor

Most TV's can't benefit from resolutions above HD.

Is a PC from 2005 also a B-class gaming platform?

Then I guess every year millions of PC's transform from A-class to B-class to C-class depending on age.

Don't try to think too hard, I know it hurts.

PC's from 2005 are also a B-class gaming platforms ;)

You said "PC = A-class gaming platform."

Now you're saying it's not.

Can you make up your mind.

The same VERY OLD argument.

.

Hermits have become so loud lately that people are too tired to debate them, but so much of what they say just isn't true.

It's like system wars and it's own little logic pocket, people forget if they want to check the weather they can just go outside and see if it's raining. Doesn't matter what the weatherman says.

.

PC gaming systems costs more. Games are less available at retail. Systems specifications are often a problem and not universal, especially when new tech comes out. Multiplat quality usually follows the leader. The greatest of "pc exclusives" always go to consoles, and haven't shown much performance difference. Amazing exclusives are only "amazing" because they're exclusive.

I have a gaming PC and I haven't bought anything for it in years. I like my consoles, I like the ease of them, and I like not having to tweak and install and adjust constantly. I also like "owning" my games (an outdated concept, I know). I like major releases, I like big budget games, I like a universal medium on which to play them, I like small niche games and I like them being relatively easy to translate because of controller mapping. I do enough programming and installing at work, that I want gaming to be fun and immersive and I've been playing long enough that my EGO isn't inflated or deflated based on pretending my medium is superior.

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All the PC Elitism does is chase away new players, and lets douchey people feel even more validated about acting like a douche. I salute the teabagging generation.

fadersdream

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I do, actually. lowe0

Oh how that makes sense... I don't know. But then, it's not surprising at all... I mean, let's go double standards while we're at it.

You hate elitism, but you love fanboys ?

Elitism is also part of console people... Never heard of the Wii is not next gen console because it can't do HD ?

That is simply not true. These days mp games are developed on consoles (mostly xbox) and ported (poorly) to PC. For example GTAIV ran like crap on PC, also the controls on deadspace sucked because they were designed for DA and poorly ported to PC with mouse control. DaBrainz

Yes it is, simply true, usually the ports are great, at least from my experience. And for those 'bad apples' here and there, you're forgetting mods (like community fixes, patches, etc.) which have made Resident Evil 4, once a unplayable mess, into the definite version with the best graphics and fantastic controls. It has also made your example, GTA IV into a game with incredible graphics and excellent performance (at least on my PC). I haven't played Dead Space, i can't comment on it.

Mods count, if anyone would ask such a ridiculous question, because a) they exist, b) they fix sh*t up (another example is New Vegas, which is my favorite RPG with all the bugs fixed).

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Oh how that makes sense... I don't know. But then, it's not surprising at all... I mean, let's go double standards while we're at it.

Bebi_vegeta

You hate elitism, but you love fanboys ?

Elitism is also part of console people... Never heard of the Wii is not next gen console because it can't do HD ?

Some aspects of Pc gaming are factuallybetter, same goes for consoles. If you absolutly need the best possible experiencethen Pc is the only way to go. If your more casual and don't have as much time/ money then consoles are for you. Simple as that.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] No. That's just closed-mindedness. Elitism would be when one assumes that the opinions of others are held due to some flaw or limitation (age, financial means or technical aptitude) or when one professes that those whose opinions differ from their own are inferior.lowe0

I see where you're getting at,but most of the behavior you described is heavily present among console fanboys too...

For example,I've seen countless times a PS3 fanboy calling 360 gamers kids due to MS's interest in "casual" gaming.Same goes with financial means,for example,a 360 fanboy calling PS3 gamers poor,saying they don't have enough money to pay for XBL,that they depend on their parents money,etc,etc...

I'll give you technical aptitude,though,that one's exclusive to PC elitists,console fanboys can't argue about tecnical issues,due to "pick up and play" simplicity of the console hardware...

As for inferiority insults,well,that's a thing present among all fanboys,they all conider those who disagree with them inferior,by resorting to multiple stereotypes...

360 gamers are kids,PC gamers are snobs,PS3 gamers are drones,Nintendo gamers are based on nostalgia,etc,etc...

Still,I may agree the strongest inferiority insults are most commonly used by PC fanboys,but they're by no means exclusive to them...

That's funny, cause the only thing you say to them is ''your not helping argument'' lol.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Not really. I hate elitism. That's one standard.lowe0

You hate elitism, but you love fanboys ?

Elitism is also part of console people... Never heard of the Wii is not next gen console because it can't do HD ?

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

You hate elitism, but you love fanboys ?

Elitism is also part of console people... Never heard of the Wii is not next gen console because it can't do HD ?

Bebi_vegeta

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

Gamers are dysfunctional wrecks, that's the long and short of it.

Not only do you have fanboys of different stripes but you also have the attitude of "OMG how can you not love this company, it made XYZ" and then they change 1 part of the game and suddenly "OMG THIS COMPANY SUCKS I HOPE IT GOES BANKRUPT."

Bottom line, gamers as a group are batschit.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]PC is also the best if you are a multiplat gamer mainly.MK-Professor

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

That's dumb as hell. I'd take Pokemon Blue over 99% of PC and console games. And Zelda games are more fun for me then any PC game.locopatho

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

You hate elitism, but you love fanboys ?

Elitism is also part of console people... Never heard of the Wii is not next gen console because it can't do HD ?

Bebi_vegeta

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]That is simply not true. These days mp games are developed on consoles (mostly xbox) and ported (poorly) to PC. For example GTAIV ran like crap on PC, also the controls on deadspace sucked because they were designed for DA and poorly ported to PC with mouse control. Lucianu

Yes it is, simply true, usually the ports are great, at least from my experience. And for those 'bad apples' here and there, you're forgetting mods (like community fixes, patches, etc.) which have made Resident Evil 4, once a unplayable mess, into the definite version with the best graphics and fantastic controls. It has also made your example, GTA IV into a game with incredible graphics and excellent performance (at least on my PC). I haven't played Dead Space, i can't comment on it.

Mods count, if anyone would ask such a ridiculous question, because a) they exist, b) they fix sh*t up (another example is New Vegas, which is my favorite RPG with all the bugs fixed).

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] That is simply not true. These days mp games are developed on consoles (mostly xbox) and ported (poorly) to PC. For example GTAIV ran like crap on PC, also the controls on deadspace sucked because they were designed for DA and poorly ported to PC with mouse control. DaBrainz

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

You don't really need a heck of a rig to run GTA4 well, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version and the rig that i had back in 2008(quadcore 3.2 & 8800GTX) is consider ancient today.


I have try both K/M and controller on deadspace and K/M it feels so much better, it is more accurate, more agile, the movement and aim feel more natural, it is a better experience over all with K/M, not to mention that console fanboys (like you) try to ignore the fact that you can use the same controller on pc.

as you can see multiplats are better on pc, both in graphics and gameplay.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Really? I play GTAIV on my pc with 4-5 times bigger resolution, much higher graphics settings, 60fps and you got the nerve to say that GTAIV ran like crap on pc, when you play GTAIV on your little console with 4-5 times smaller resolution, low settings and 15-30fps? LOL kid, just LOL

Also do you realise that deadspace on pc have the best controls? k/m(superior control scheme) as well as controller and of course 60fps that increase the gameplay enjoyment dramatically.



back on topic now, so many butthurt console fanboys in this thread, that cannot accept that their consoles are just B-class gaming platforms.

MK-Professor

You don't really need a heck of a rig to run GTA4 well, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version and the rig that i had back in 2008(quadcore 3.2 & 8800GTX) is consider ancient today.


I have try both K/M and controller on deadspace and K/M it feels so much better, it is more accurate, more agile, the movement and aim feel more natural, it is a better experience over all with K/M, not to mention that console fanboys (like you) try to ignore the fact that you can use the same controller on pc.

as you can see multiplats are better on pc, both in graphics and gameplay.

ITT

[spoiler] why everybody hates pc gamers [/spoiler]

I'm so glad people can still make these threads to justify the $1500 they spent on a gaming PC, without knowing what an opinion is or what differing preferences means.

I hate it when wannabe-hermit create such horrible threads, they make the real hermits look like idiots. There are plenty of reasons why PC is superior (power, mods, most high scoring games, freedom, indie scene, fantastic prices for games etc.), but your opinion is none of it

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] I've never played GTAIV so no need to troll, but this is common knowledge that when it cames out in 2008, you needed a heck of a rig to just run it well (which is probably the reason I didn't even try it). And no, deadspace KB&M controls PC just suck, I know from experience and I know from the steam boards that its not just my opinion but a common opinion among PC gamers. I dont think you really know much of what you speak of. Bottom line is that if you say mp games are automatically better on PC then you are a liar.DaBrainz

You don't really need a heck of a rig to run GTA4 well, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version and the rig that i had back in 2008(quadcore 3.2 & 8800GTX) is consider ancient today.


I have try both K/M and controller on deadspace and K/M it feels so much better, it is more accurate, more agile, the movement and aim feel more natural, it is a better experience over all with K/M, not to mention that console fanboys (like you) try to ignore the fact that you can use the same controller on pc.

as you can see multiplats are better on pc, both in graphics and gameplay.

I really don't get it what's wrong with controls in Dead Space,everything's properly supported,and customizable,both the mouse and keyboard,but you haven't provided any proof that a large number of PC gamers considers them bad...

Go ahead,pull out a few random forum threads,it still doesn't prove anything.You'll have to come up with something very convincing,you made a statement,the burden of providing proof falls on you...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Yes, I have. That's not elitism. Saying Wii gamers only prefer it because they can't afford another platform? That would be elitism. Look, if you guys want to post about the advantages of your platform, then do so. Just don't try to hold up the straw man that you're being criticized for it while ignoring the actual problem.ZombieKiller7

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

Gamers are dysfunctional wrecks, that's the long and short of it.

Not only do you have fanboys of different stripes but you also have the attitude of "OMG how can you not love this company, it made XYZ" and then they change 1 part of the game and suddenly "OMG THIS COMPANY SUCKS I HOPE IT GOES BANKRUPT."

Bottom line, gamers as a group are batschit.

Pretty much...

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Yes, I have. That's not elitism. Saying Wii gamers only prefer it because they can't afford another platform? That would be elitism. Look, if you guys want to post about the advantages of your platform, then do so. Just don't try to hold up the straw man that you're being criticized for it while ignoring the actual problem.lowe0

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

No, both are judgement on people... you bought a Wii, ewwwwwwww not HD. I'm better then you because my console can do HD.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

You don't really need a heck of a rig to run GTA4 well, from day one I was able to enjoy GTA4 with far better graphics and performance than the console version and the rig that i had back in 2008(quadcore 3.2 & 8800GTX) is consider ancient today.


I have try both K/M and controller on deadspace and K/M it feels so much better, it is more accurate, more agile, the movement and aim feel more natural, it is a better experience over all with K/M, not to mention that console fanboys (like you) try to ignore the fact that you can use the same controller on pc.

as you can see multiplats are better on pc, both in graphics and gameplay.

Rocker6

I really don't get it what's wrong with controls in Dead Space,everything's properly supported,and customizable,both the mouse and keyboard,but you haven't provided any proof that a large number of PC gamers considers them bad...

Go ahead,pull out a few random forum threads,it still doesn't prove anything.You'll have to come up with something very convincing,you made a statement,the burden of providing proof falls on you...

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Hey, I'm not the one playing the victim... oh were being elitisimized.

Yes it's elitism think one platforme is not part of next gen because it can't do HD or 5.1 sound or whatever poor online feature it has.

Bebi_vegeta

No, both are judgement on people... you bought a Wii, ewwwwwwww not HD. I'm better then you because my console can do HD.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"] You are entitled to your opinion but it is contrary to popular belief on any PC forum. TBH the only reason I played deadspace in the first place was because it was $5 on steam.DaBrainz

I really don't get it what's wrong with controls in Dead Space,everything's properly supported,and customizable,both the mouse and keyboard,but you haven't provided any proof that a large number of PC gamers considers them bad...

Go ahead,pull out a few random forum threads,it still doesn't prove anything.You'll have to come up with something very convincing,you made a statement,the burden of providing proof falls on you...

OK,I stand corrected.It seems there indeed is a valid problem with Dead Space controls,although if you've read the article,you would've known it's a technical issue,not a matter of game not being suited for m/k scheme,like you presented the problem in the first place...

Nevertheless,I have never experienced that technical issue,and had multiple playthroughs without any problems...

Oh,and was the "kid on the Internet" part really necessary?

I made a level-headed request for you to back up your statement.That's how you properly debate.You fortunately did that,but your level-headness is brought into question...

In terms of facts, the OP is correct.

PC gaming always has, every gen: (compared to any single console)

1. The most games

2. The most exclusives

3. The most genres

4. The best gfx

5. The best online

6. The most/best features (MODS, Open System, more dedicated servers, games with more players per level, more F2P, indy, flash, casual, social etc.)

7. The most players, and more used world wide (concurrent and total) (also results in the most game unit sales than any single console)

8. The best version of "90%" of multiplats.

Your opinion on how MMO/RTS dont' count are irrelevant, PC is factually the best every gen.

Jankarcop

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] One is a judgment about a piece of hardware. The other is about a person. You honestly don't see a difference? lowe0

No, both are judgement on people... you bought a Wii, ewwwwwwww not HD. I'm better then you because my console can do HD.

Oh yeah right... obviously console gamers don't act like that at all... only the PC gamers.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

No, both are judgement on people... you bought a Wii, ewwwwwwww not HD. I'm better then you because my console can do HD.

Bebi_vegeta

Oh yeah right... obviously console gamers don't act like that at all... only the PC gamers.

Having lost arguments regarding the quality of games and hardware Lowe0 latest tactic is to imply that PC gamers are morally bankrupt.

He will have a different argument next week.

(your thread) D-class thread

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] You're implying a judgment. The ones I'm talking about are quite explicit.tenaka2

Oh yeah right... obviously console gamers don't act like that at all... only the PC gamers.

Having lost arguments regarding the quality of games and hardware Lowe0 latest tactic is to imply that PC gamers are morally bankrupt.

He will have a different argument next week.

Games lose a lot of fun when played on PC. I imagine its due to awful controls and buggier code.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Oh yeah right... obviously console gamers don't act like that at all... only the PC gamers.

lowe0

Having lost arguments regarding the quality of games and hardware Lowe0 latest tactic is to imply that PC gamers are morally bankrupt.

He will have a different argument next week.

And yet, this board has more hate threads started by consolites rather then PC gamers, this very board proves you incorrect.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Oh yeah right... obviously console gamers don't act like that at all... only the PC gamers.

lowe0

Having lost arguments regarding the quality of games and hardware Lowe0 latest tactic is to imply that PC gamers are morally bankrupt.

He will have a different argument next week.

Can you clarifiy?

While playing an SP game on the PC,how does elitism detract you from the gameplay experience?

Even if you're playing an MP game on your PC,there are very small chances someone would suddenly brought up consoles and start insulting them in the middle of the match...

You can experience the elitism only on boards like this that are basically MADE for elitists and fanboys,to argue,and bring the revenue to the site...

That's actually pretty dumb for the age we live,but i KINDA see your point.

Will always stick to my consoles & portables,anyway.

Why some console gamers refuse to accept this fact?

( PC ) A-class gaming platform
( 360/ps3/wii ) B-class gaming platforms
( mobiles, tablets, handhelds ) C-class gaming platforms

MK-Professor

roffl

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Having lost arguments regarding the quality of games and hardware Lowe0 latest tactic is to imply that PC gamers are morally bankrupt.

He will have a different argument next week.

Rocker6

Can you clarifiy?

While playing an SP game on the PC,how does elitism detract you from the gameplay experience?

Even if you're playing an MP game on your PC,there are very small chances someone would suddenly brought up consoles and start insulting them in the middle of the match...

You can experience the elitism only on boards like this that are basically MADE for elitists and fanboys,to argue,and bring the revenue to the site...

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Why some console gamers refuse to accept this fact?

( PC ) A-class gaming platform
( 360/ps3/wii ) B-class gaming platforms
( mobiles, tablets, handhelds ) C-class gaming platforms

StormyJoe

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Not morally bankrupt, but generally unpleasant to interact with. And since I've been calling you guys elitist for years, I don't expect it to go away next week. As for hardware and games, almost every game I'm interested in is multiplatform, and I agree that the hardware is more powerful. The rampant elitism's really the major drawback that detracts from the gameplay experience (since it's not just against console gamers, but against less hardcore PC gamers as well).lowe0

Can you clarifiy?

While playing an SP game on the PC,how does elitism detract you from the gameplay experience?

Even if you're playing an MP game on your PC,there are very small chances someone would suddenly brought up consoles and start insulting them in the middle of the match...

You can experience the elitism only on boards like this that are basically MADE for elitists and fanboys,to argue,and bring the revenue to the site...

Were you kicked out of a clan or guild or something?

When will PC gamers understand that not everyone has the time or money to build or get a nice PC gaming rig? Yes I know you can put together a budget system, but in the end with that budget system are you getting the true experience at what a PC gaming has to offer? My answer to that is no. No matter how you slice it PC gaming is expensive and its not so easy for a casual gamer to understand and grasp as much as everyone makes it out to be in this forum. That is why console gaming is popular as it is, because you just plug and play.