Why TLOU was so successful

TLOU was a new IP, as well as being refined and without significant flaws.

The problem with sequels is that they are often derivative and no matter how good they get, they don't nearly have as much shock and awe as the first entry because they've already seen it before.  It's not impossible, but it's really difficult to both have the shock-and-awe AND to have a refined game.

For example, there are many new IP's which could have EASILY been 10's that blew everybody a way, had it not been for flaws.  And it's natural for new IP's to have some flaws.  Nobody's perfect and it takes time.  No matter how many sequels you make.  No matter how much you improve later on, it won't take away from the fact that the developer missed their chance.

LA Noire - Awesome game, brilliant concept and ambiance, but a predictable formula for cases stopped it from being a perfect 10

Mass Effect - If the weapons, inventory system, bugs/glitches, vehicles, and pacing in some parts had been fixed, it would have been one of the greatest games of all time.

Borderlands - really effective hybrid, but it had way too many flaws.  if it were blands 2 that were released in 2009 (which fixed all the flaws: color/environments, story, enemy variety, etc), it would be mindblowingly good.

Assassin's Creed - ACII was much better, and it is a successful series though.  This is an example on how to recover from mistakes from a new IP.

But back to my point.

TLOU is a rare case (like Halo) which was totally new and left the player without them feeling like something was missing.

TLoU owes its success to 3 things ND, the walking dead and the declining quality of resident evil games.Kashiwaba

i personally prefer Resident Evil 4 over TLOU, but even if RE5 and 6 were as good as 4, The Last of Us would still have it's place in gaming.

1. Gaming media who know nothing about games. "like teh movie"

2. Plagiarizing Ellen Pages appearence and making money off it like crooks

Because it was good

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1. Gaming media who know nothing about games. "like teh movie"

2. Plagiarizing Ellen Pages appearence and making money off it like crooks

uninspiredcup

Because it was good

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seanmcloughlin

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

8.0 is  a flop, not success.

movie game suck.

Hype, marketing and brand association.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because it was good

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Pikminmaniac

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because it was good

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Pikminmaniac

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

It sold because it is actually appealing. Pikmin doesn't sell because its weird.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because it was good

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DragonfireXZ95

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

Sushiglutton

Being one of the best games ever made probably helped.

8.0 is  a flop, not success.

 

movie game suck.

Jankarcop

Because it was good

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seanmcloughlin

Because it was good

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seanmcloughlin

And because it was hyped and marketed to death by Sony. It was on TV every 15mins.

Bioshock Infinite was also marketed and hyped to death as well. Which is why the game sold millions to and got a great score.

Far Cry 3 wasn't marketed as much, but the game was also very good and it too sold well.

True those games weren't new IPs. Not all new IPs do that well. PS All Star Battle Royale did terrible.

I figured it was because Naughty Dog made it and they made a huge reputation with the Uncharted Series.

Because it was good

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seanmcloughlin

A lot of hype and the commercials made it look very good. Thats why I bought it. Although, I didnt like the game and ended up trading it in without finishing it.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Because it was good

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NathanDrakeSwag

Tell that to all the fantastic games that don't sell...

I think it sold because of

-great production values

-walking dead

-Naughty Dog

It sold because it is actually appealing. Pikmin doesn't sell because its weird.

not u again.

8.0 is  a flop, not success.

 

movie game suck.

Jankarcop

Naughty Dog should be ashamed of themselves Tom McShea gave it an 8.

It wasnt as successful as you make out.

It only sold 3 million copies.

Halo 4 sold 8.5 million

COD sold 20odd million

Its a nice earner but thats about it.

Since when is a flop a success?

TLOU was a new IP, as well as being refined and without significant flaws.

drekula2

It seems silly to call it a new IP when it's yet another combination of popular generic "AAA" game design elements from an already popular developer.

-Boring third person cover shooter.
-"Escort" a young woman/girl who's basically a non-entity during actual gameplay.
-Whack-a-mole shootouts.
-QTEs.
-Gritty/organic art style.
-Zombies.
-Over-emphasis on high production values and cutscenes.

And the game has the significant flaw of being boring and tedious as shit. 

It wasnt as successful as you make out.

 

It only sold 3 million copies.

 

Halo 4 sold 8.5 million

 

COD sold 20odd million

 

Its a nice earner but thats about it.

Evo_nine

it's all relative.  3 million, for a new ip, at the end of the generation, in a matter of <6months.

how many games do you know of that meets those specifications?

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8.0 is  a flop, not success.

 

movie game suck.

PSdual_wielder

Naughty Dog should be ashamed of themselves Tom McShea gave it an 8.

and its a movie not a game. even worse

Since when is a flop a success?

Lumpy311

A "Flop", as defined by System Wars, has absolutely no bearing on a games success.

It's like we have crazy SW reality where one reviewer determines a games worth by a random score and then we have real world, it sold millions and on a short list for GOTY, reality.

What reality do you live in?

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Since when is a flop a success?

FragTycoon

A "Flop", as defined by System Wars, has absolutely no bearing on a games success.

It's like we have crazy SW reality where one reviewer determines a games worth by a random score and then we have real world, it sold millions and on a short list for GOTY, reality.

What reality do you live in?

We are posting in gamespot, we use gamespot scores.

[QUOTE="drekula2"]

TLOU was a new IP, as well as being refined and without significant flaws.

Pffrbt

It seems silly to call it a new IP when it's yet another combination of popular generic "AAA" game design elements from an already popular developer.

-Boring third person cover shooter.
-"Escort" a young woman/girl who's basically a non-entity during actual gameplay.
-Whack-a-mole shootouts.
-QTEs.
-Gritty/organic art style.
-Zombies.
-Over-emphasis on high production values and cutscenes.

And the game has the significant flaw of being boring and tedious as shit. 

Hype, marketing and brand association.foxhound_fox

This. It'd be like being surprise when Destiny ends up being a colossal success.

Lol at all the fanboys discrediting this game - saying it was successful because of its marketing. Say hello to every halo/gears game ever then.

Hype, marketing and brand association.foxhound_fox

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[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Since when is a flop a success?

Lumpy311

A "Flop", as defined by System Wars, has absolutely no bearing on a games success.

It's like we have crazy SW reality where one reviewer determines a games worth by a random score and then we have real world, it sold millions and on a short list for GOTY, reality.

What reality do you live in?

We are posting in gamespot, we use gamespot scores.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

A "Flop", as defined by System Wars, has absolutely no bearing on a games success.

It's like we have crazy SW reality where one reviewer determines a games worth by a random score and then we have real world, it sold millions and on a short list for GOTY, reality.

What reality do you live in?

Giancar

We are posting in gamespot, we use gamespot scores.

My ass. We always used gamespot, so we use gamespot, sorry, but TLOU is a flop.

8.0 is  a flop, not success.

 

movie game suck.

Jankarcop

 gamespots shitty reviews.

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We are posting in gamespot, we use gamespot scores.

Lumpy311

My ass. We always used gamespot, so we use gamespot, sorry, but TLOU is a flop.