Why you might not want to pre-order (1886) The Order: 1886

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#1  Edited By Dasein808
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Shots fired.

Gameplay predictions realized. I'm not sure whether or not this will come as a surprise to most, but it's an interesting video.

To be fair, the game is still in development, so some of his criticism regarding clipping may likely be dismissed, but I doubt that the emphasis on QTEs will be lessened between now and final release.

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#2 lostrib
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because it looks mediocre

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#3 SolidGame_basic
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No way I'm canceling my preorder. Got the collectors edition for regular price.

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#4 Telekill
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Middle finger to the people that made the video. I have it preordered and I'm keeping it.

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#6 Heil68
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I got the CE coming.

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#7 Crypt_mx
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The Order 1886 = Ryse

Looks great, decent story telling, meh gameplay.

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#8 speedfreak48t5p
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Looks like the PS4's Ryse.

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#9  Edited By foxhound_fox
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"Next gen graphics with last gen gameplay"

This entire generation in a nutshell.

Also liked the clever jab at David Cage. I saw this steamer coming from a mile away.

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#11  Edited By Tighaman
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Well it looks great and already preordered

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#12 R3FURBISHED
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@Crypt_mx said:

The Order 1886 = Ryse

Looks great, decent story telling, meh gameplay.

@speedfreak48t5p said:

Looks like the PS4's Ryse.

As long as it isn't a disappointing as Ryse. I don't know if either of you have played Ryse but I was left feeling that a really great game is in there, it just isn't what I played.

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#13 tymeservesfate
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a quicktime event to throw a grenade....?? yikes

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#14  Edited By tubbyc
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Yeah, I'm skeptical about this game. QTE can work well in some cases though, like the superb Beyond: Two Souls. It may not be suitable for a game like The Order though, and the insta-fail stealth segments sound annoying.

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#15 CanYouDiglt
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Besides the graphics the game looks to be pretty bad.

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#16 Crypt_mx
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@R3FURBISHED: That's why I said what I said, I believe it will be just as disappointing as Ryse unfortunately.

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#17 Merex760
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You might not want to pre-order any AAA game, really...

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#18 EZs
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Game looks mind blowing.

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#19  Edited By Pffrbt
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@EZs said:

Game looks mind blowing.

how. literally the only noteworthy thing about the game is the graphics.

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#20  Edited By lamprey263
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I don't see the how I really gain anything from this, previous gameplay videos have shown it to be very cutscene and QTE heavy, as a cover based third person shooter it has always seemed kind of meh. It's funny that EuroGamer should complain about QTEs now though since they were regurgitating that line about how The Order 1886 was going to reinvent how QTEs were done and whatnot. I'm surprised he didn't have anything to say about the "it plays itself cinematic moments".

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#21 finalfantasy94
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yea not a fan of tons of qte in a game and insta fail stealth is annoying as well. Though I still have my eye on the game.

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#22 melonfarmerz
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You know you're a "cow" when you preorder every CE for PS4 regardless of how bad everyone knows it's going to be.

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#23  Edited By BldgIrsh
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I am confused. The youtube comments are filled with peasants complaining about the preview. He's merely suggesting people to not pre-order the game and wait for after the release to see if the game is any good. How is that a bad thing.

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#24 funsohng
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If it's as linear as they say, I hope this game fails miserably. Cinematic games are cancer of gaming industry.

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#25 CrashNBurn281
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Does not really that interesting to me. Yeah, the graphics look fantastic, gameplay will always be more important though.

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#26 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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the game doesn't interest me, but I don't need a random youtuber to sway my decision either.

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#27 ReadingRainbow4
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@Pffrbt said:
@EZs said:

Game looks mind blowing.

how. literally the only noteworthy thing about the game is the graphics.

he did say "looks,".

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#28 BldgIrsh
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@da_illest101 said:

the game doesn't interest me, but I don't need a random youtuber to sway my decision either.

Perhaps the youtuber is random. But, eurogamer is something system wars loves! (Digital Foundry)

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#29 Antwan3K
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There's still plenty of time for tweaks and polish but, as some others have already said, this looks like a Ryse situation..

Except Ryse was a launch title which probably meant that development was severely tight..

I liked Ryse btw.. Gorgeous game, just average in terms of gameplay..

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#30 DefconRave
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I don't get it.

New ip, less than stellar previews, by a studio who's made nothing of note, black bars cutting off half the screen, qtes galore, and ppl are still pre-ordering the CEs no less...

If it wasn't made by a SONY studio, would anyone even care about this game?

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#31  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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You shouldn't preorder anything these days, but yeah this game could suck.

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#32 HitmanActual
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**** QTE's and **** pre-ordering. Now wonder this gen is so fucked up.

Does anyone actually think this game will be anything but a major disappointment? The writing is on the wall.

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#33 bunchanumbers
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I hope you guys realize that there will still be CE of this travesty of justice years down the road.

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#34  Edited By B4X
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@scottpsfan14 said:

Don't like that person talking. He's not even fucking funny.

Seems like he's correct though since it's the general consensus.

As @b4x once put it, "Starts with a T, ends in a 6". Best thing he ever said.

I say a lot of bait facts my man. That one was from about three to five months ago. I took a stampeding for that one. Pardon the pun.

We'll know in February who was wrong or right in those debates from months ago. You never know it might be me. We'll see. :p

400k!!! Can you believe how right I was about that. It's like fucking magic son.

Would you keep that on the down low. You're messing with my ammo.:p

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#35 aroxx_ab
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Oh think i skip this game, i hate QTE's when it is like this and God of war. Then add these blackbars and meh...

But when made like telltale games and like Until Dawn it is great, but those maybe not called QTE games?

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#36  Edited By Gue1
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Eurogamer telling people to not buy a game based on a demo. This is great journalistic integrity.

haha TotalBiscuit's on the comment section smacking some heads. XD

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#37 Lulu_Lulu
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Big Whoop.... Cows don't care about gameplay.... Thats why they are Cows.... And if thats the case then they are more than welcome to Pre-Order it...

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#38 Lulu_Lulu
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@aroxx_ab

But thats exactly what they are. Technically Speaking, even the Dialogue is a QTE only with different consequences other than failing and starting over..

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#39  Edited By silversix_
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Betting $5 it'll score 6/10. Shallow but beautiful will be this game's moto

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#40 Notorious1234NA
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bc its another 6hr single player campaighn like Bayonetta 2.

Be real why you didnt buy the game gg

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#41  Edited By aroxx_ab
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@aroxx_ab

But thats exactly what they are. Technically Speaking, even the Dialogue is a QTE only with different consequences other than failing and starting over..

I isnt it a difference between QTE and like "on rail" -games with choices?

To me QTE games is games you have to press 1 or more buttons and you have a small time window to do so or you fail and often result big punishment. In some of those games you barely see what buttons to press before you failed ...

Games like Until Dawn and telltale games is not like that

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#42  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@aroxx_ab

Well Duh.... If everyone said "Well I define (insert concept) by (insert personal definition)" type of logic then anything can be anything....

I only say that because I disagree with one tiny part of your definition: "....a small time window...."

Honestly it doesn't matter if its 5 minutes or 5 seconds, the game will remain frozen until you input whatever limited set of options they put on the screen, be it just 1 or 4.....

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#43 blamix99
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game looks awesome, i'll wait for reviews first

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#44 sailor232
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Game seems to be a big pile of turd. It will sell on graphics alone though.

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#46 Behardy24
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The setting of the game seems cool, I just hope the narrative delivers.

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#47 Behardy24
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The release date of the game is near my birthday :D

So I think I'll pick it up then.

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#48 soulitane
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@aroxx_ab

Well Duh.... If everyone said "Well I define (insert concept) by (insert personal definition)" type of logic then anything can be anything....

I only say that because I disagree with one tiny part of your definition: "....a small time window...."

Honestly it doesn't matter if its 5 minutes or 5 seconds, the game will remain frozen until you input whatever limited set of options they put on the screen, be it just 1 or 4.....

"Quick" time event. 5 minutes isn't quick in terms of such gameplay. You can argue semantics all you want, that doesn't make it true.

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#49  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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I saw this coming since the game was revealed. It's just another game in the vein of Uncharted except people seem to realize that these cinematic tropes and relentless hand holding are bad this time.

Bloodborne is where PS4 owners should be betting their money if anywhere right now.

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#50 Dibdibdobdobo
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@notorious1234na: Weird.... Bayonetta 2 took me to around 12 hours to complete and i have spent 25 hours upon it thus far. Lets see that copy of the game which you purchased to play to give us a rough estimate on how long it took you to complete it.

I'm guessing you will do a Doc Sanchez and log o to your alternative account.