Wii 2 specs leaked - QUAD CORE

Just a quadcore? I'm expecting six-cores from the future consoles, heck, PC's are soon going to be getting commercial 8-cores.tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Just a quadcore? I'm expecting six-cores from the future consoles, heck, PC's are soon going to be getting commercial 8-cores.bobbetybob

It just seems like if consoles come out with quad-cores by the time they come out, they're already going to be VERY behind the PC tech-wise. Back in 05-06, the gap was still there, but it wasn't as big.

I'm willing to bet that Nintendo implements 3D into their next system.

SpinoRaptor24

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I'm willing to bet that Nintendo implements 3D into their next system.

VendettaRed07

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I'm willing to bet that Nintendo implements 3D into their next system.

LastRambo341

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

well yeah but everyone would have to buy those tvs and those are CRAZY expensive.. Nintendo would never force people to buy those, or even suggest people buy them for that matter.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I'm willing to bet that Nintendo implements 3D into their next system.

LastRambo341

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

I'm willing to bet that Nintendo implements 3D into their next system.

LastRambo341

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

When cellphones can have quad core processors, I think it's safe to say a console can have one and still remain cheap.

Dibdibdobdobo

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

SoraX64

Who knows...with Nintendo's infinite wisdom, they can do anything ;)

Quad core, bluray drive, Why is that so inconcievable for people? That kind of tech was top of the line in 2006, not such a big deal for a console coming out in 2012.

Ugh...

They will be left in the dust again, as PS4/Next Xbox come in.

GeneralShowzer

PS4 and XBOX are not going to be that much stronger in hardware next time around

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Power matters. Power doesn't matter to Nintendo anymore. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Yet they were last place.

LastRambo341

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] The NES and SNES were not. Market share does not matter to gamers. I geuss you think COD is the greatest series ever made because it has teh salez, you're cool.tomarlyn

I can (barely) see why Nintendo would go 3D next gen, but HD? I bet more than half the people that bought the Wii don't even know what it is. The next Nintendo will probably appeal more to five year olds and their mothers than it will us.

outatime557

Probably a Quadcore of their already turtle speed CPU. In the end, it's 4x slow cores and they'll probably overcharge it just like the Nintendo Wii. :lol: Play smart and get a Sony or Microsoft next time around.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Ya but the N64 and GC are much closer to current gen than the NES and SNES.LastRambo341

SNES won its generation....the only generations nintendo lost was too sony (PS1,PS2)

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Ya but the N64 and GC are much closer to current gen than the NES and SNES.LastRambo341

Power matter to devs, power matters to gamers that want new experiences, sales matter to publishers.

Do you think OoT time could be done on the SNES, don't you think it was right for Nintendo to push for technology and make such revolutionary games happen?

Or don't you think making such a great game was a good idea, and should have waited another 5 years for the level of hardware required to become redundant? Imagine where we would be now

There is nothing like the N64 or Gamecube's game design success on the Wii, sales success is something else entirely, unless you really do think COD is amazing just for selling so well. You can't have it both ways. Consumers do not actively seek to buy the weakest hardware on the market either.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] That doesn't make any difference.

tomarlyn

Power matter to devs, power matters to gamers that want new experiences, sales matter to publishers.

Do you think OoT time could be done on the SNES, don't you think it was right for Nintendo to push for technology and make such revolutionary games happen?

Or don't you think making such a great game was a good idea, and should have waited another 5 years for the level of hardware required to become redundant? Imagine where we would be now

There is nothing like the N64 or Gamecube's game design success on the Wii, sales success is something else entirely, unless you really do think COD is amazing just for selling so well. You can't have it both ways. Consumers do not actively seek to buy the weakest hardware on the market either.

[QUOTE="outatime557"]

I can (barely) see why Nintendo would go 3D next gen, but HD? I bet more than half the people that bought the Wii don't even know what it is. The next Nintendo will probably appeal more to five year olds and their mothers than it will us.

tomarlyn

My impression is that most people have some vague idea of HD as something to do with "clearer picture" but they can't really tell the difference until it's compared side by side, and even then they don't see it as much of an improvement.

Alright, I can see why Nintendo would want to support 720p through HDMI in order to fix some compatibility issues with modern HDTVs etc, but their effort will probably end there as far as HD goes.

The question remains; is it going to have parallel CPU's or they going to be subscalar CPU's like in the 360 and PS3.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="outatime557"]

I can (barely) see why Nintendo would go 3D next gen, but HD? I bet more than half the people that bought the Wii don't even know what it is. The next Nintendo will probably appeal more to five year olds and their mothers than it will us.

outatime557

My impression is that most people have some vague idea of HD as something to do with "clearer picture" but they can't really tell the difference until it's compared side by side, and even then they don't see it as much of an improvement.

Alright, I can see why Nintendo would want to support 720p through HDMI in order to fix some compatibility issues with modern HDTVs etc, but their effort will probably end there as far as HD goes.

whats funny is that miyAMOTO ALREADY SAID he wants to go HD next gen....my bad on the caps

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] That doesn't make any difference.

tomarlyn

Power matter to devs, power matters to gamers that want new experiences, sales matter to publishers.

Do you think OoT time could be done on the SNES, don't you think it was right for Nintendo to push for technology and make such revolutionary games happen?

Or don't you think making such a great game was a good idea, and should have waited another 5 years for the level of hardware required to become redundant? Imagine where we would be now

There is nothing like the N64 or Gamecube's game design success on the Wii, sales success is something else entirely, unless you really do think COD is amazing just for selling so well. You can't have it both ways. Consumers do not actively seek to buy the weakest hardware on the market either.

The SNES had Link to the Past, considered by many the best Zelda game ever, so yeah, power doesn't matter.

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

LastRambo341

I know, but i played (and loved) the best ones like Mario Galaxy series. I would love to go back to nintendo but full third party support is imperative for that to happen :P

Hope it's true, though an extra 2 cores wouldn't hurt.=p

CPU is not that important imho. It could be some cheap dual core as far as I'm concerned. But it needs a decent graphics chip and more RAM.

Well, by the time that is released, PCs will be on the octo-cores.Blacklight2

I don't think the console will really be aimed at high-end PC gamers.

Quad core, bluray drive, Why is that so inconcievable for people? That kind of tech was top of the line in 2006, not such a big deal for a console coming out in 2012.

Pray_to_me

Consoles were always a bit behind high-end PCs even at the time of their release. The magic thing is optimization. When working on a PC game, you have to keep the average gamers PC in mind. Lets say todays developers of PC game s know, that their game has to work on Core 2 Duo with GeForcec 9600, because if it wont, too few ppl will be able to run it and too few will be sold.

If Nintendo comes out with decent quad core processor and decent current graphics card (lets say somewhere around Nvidia GTX 470 1 GB VRAM), we will see something that we have never seen on PCs yet, because game optimised for such HW should have really sharp textures with lots of advanced effects. That was also why Gamecube blew our minds at the time of its release. It was nowhere nearly as powerful as (then high end) Nvidia GeForce 256 (the first GeForce ever), but with some optimization (and thanks to the fact that it needed to produce only SD resolution) it showed us graphics that we havent seen before at its launch. The same credits goes to 360 and first HD games, or to Nintendo 64 with accelerated 3D graphics in 1996.

You guys tried to make it sound like it's comparable to the Quadcores in PC.:lol:

For Mario a single core is enough ty and come again.silversix_

Hum...no.

I wouldnt expect Mario Galaxy 2 graphics when i was playing Mario Bros on my Nes 25 years ago.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]For Mario a single core is enough ty and come again.PAL360

Hum...no.

I wouldnt expect Mario Galaxy 2 graphics when i was playing Mario Bros on my Nes 25 years ago.

The Wii has a single core so his statement is actually true :P

That's four more than usual!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]For Mario a single core is enough ty and come again.nameless12345

Hum...no.

I wouldnt expect Mario Galaxy 2 graphics when i was playing Mario Bros on my Nes 25 years ago.

The Wii has a single core so his statement is actually true :P

My point is that it´s allways possible to have better graphics, even for a Mario game :)

I just got a hernia :lol:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

LastRambo341

No not really, I had a Wii 2 years ago and I'm glad I got rid of it. Don't get me wrong Wii had some good games and I mean some to it's full meaning, theres maybe a dozen games worth getting and so far theres been bigger gaps between good wii games coming out.

If Wii 2 can punch out some power, drop the motion crap cause honestly, RPGs and most genres don't do to well and feel un natural with motion controls, have a decent online community, I will love Nintendo forever.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

Ballroompirate

No not really, I had a Wii 2 years ago and I'm glad I got rid of it. Don't get me wrong Wii had some good games and I mean some to it's full meaning, theres maybe a dozen games worth getting and so far theres been bigger gaps between good wii games coming out.

If Wii 2 can punch out some power, drop the motion crap cause honestly, RPGs and most genres don't do to well and feel un natural with motion controls, have a decent online community, I will love Nintendo forever.

Basically this.

I wouldnt mind the motion controls if they werent mandatory.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

No I doubt it.. Theres no way as of now to do it without glasses, and plus even if they could it would take away the uniqueness of the 3DS.. The wii 2 or w/e will have some other hook

SoraX64

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

Ballroompirate

No not really, I had a Wii 2 years ago and I'm glad I got rid of it. Don't get me wrong Wii had some good games and I mean some to it's full meaning, theres maybe a dozen games worth getting and so far theres been bigger gaps between good wii games coming out.

If Wii 2 can punch out some power, drop the motion crap cause honestly, RPGs and most genres don't do to well and feel un natural with motion controls, have a decent online community, I will love Nintendo forever.

Motion controls is not the problem imo, well designed good RPG (like Fallout 3) could be a blast with clever use of motion cotrols (and by clever I mean use them sparingly - the pointer for inventory management and aiming, maybe throwing grenades by swinging the nunchuck and thats it). The problem is that not a single really good RPG was developed for Wii at all. Good usage of motion controls can actually really help even "hardcore" game as for example Metroid Prime Corruption or to some extent Red Steel 2 proves.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

I hope it comes out this year! If it ends up with full third party support i´ll jump to nintendo again in a second.

Ballroompirate

No not really, I had a Wii 2 years ago and I'm glad I got rid of it. Don't get me wrong Wii had some good games and I mean some to it's full meaning, theres maybe a dozen games worth getting and so far theres been bigger gaps between good wii games coming out.

If Wii 2 can punch out some power, drop the motion crap cause honestly, RPGs and most genres don't do to well and feel un natural with motion controls, have a decent online community, I will love Nintendo forever.

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Quad core, bluray drive, Why is that so inconcievable for people? That kind of tech was top of the line in 2006, not such a big deal for a console coming out in 2012.

BlbecekBobecek

Consoles were always a bit behind high-end PCs even at the time of their release. The magic thing is optimization. When working on a PC game, you have to keep the average gamers PC in mind. Lets say todays developers of PC game s know, that their game has to work on Core 2 Duo with GeForcec 9600, because if it wont, too few ppl will be able to run it and too few will be sold.

If Nintendo comes out with decent quad core processor and decent current graphics card (lets say somewhere around Nvidia GTX 470 1 GB VRAM), we will see something that we have never seen on PCs yet, because game optimised for such HW should have really sharp textures with lots of advanced effects. That was also why Gamecube blew our minds at the time of its release. It was nowhere nearly as powerful as (then high end) Nvidia GeForce 256 (the first GeForce ever), but with some optimization (and thanks to the fact that it needed to produce only SD resolution) it showed us graphics that we havent seen before at its launch. The same credits goes to 360 and first HD games, or to Nintendo 64 with accelerated 3D graphics in 1996.

What I mean is that it's not inconcievable from a cost perspective on Nintendos end.

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Well, it is a shame because you missed out a lot of great Wii games.LastRambo341

No not really, I had a Wii 2 years ago and I'm glad I got rid of it. Don't get me wrong Wii had some good games and I mean some to it's full meaning, theres maybe a dozen games worth getting and so far theres been bigger gaps between good wii games coming out.

If Wii 2 can punch out some power, drop the motion crap cause honestly, RPGs and most genres don't do to well and feel un natural with motion controls, have a decent online community, I will love Nintendo forever.

The sad thing is pretty much 9/10 Wii games aren't appealing i'm not talking about me who thinks it, it's pretty much a proven fact that the majority of wii games don't do to well compared to 360,PC and PS3 games and people buy systems for guess what the games, that's why you see a higher trade/re sell rate for Wii's cause no one keeps them.

Nintendo for the Wii 2 needs to get off their *** and get their 3rd and 1st party support back.