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#51 Ontain
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for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

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for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

Ontain

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

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#55 Ontain
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Maybe you need to work on your comprehension since I've already adressed your point twice. Maybe I should just accept that there are plenty of weak minded morons that need Wiifit to pat them on the back every week to keep exercising.

You basically summized that doing anything is better than nothing for your fitness and that Wiifit fits the bill.

ChinoJamesKeene

with 64% of Americans overweight and about 26% obesity. i don't think it's hard to accept. I don't see why you have to be to snobby about it though. unless you're perfect you're probably deficient in something.

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#56 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

sSubZerOo

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

so there aren't gamers that want a game that might encourage them to be more active? it doesn't apply to closed minded ppl that have a narrow idea of what a game should and shouldn't be.

well have games like guitar hero and rock back. come on those are fisher price toys attached to a video game. same thing.

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#57 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

sSubZerOo

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

There's "debate" over it because some people are under the mistaken impression that games can't have any purpose other than recreation.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

sSubZerOo

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

I think half the problem is the whole attitude of I liked gaming before it became cool/popular among the general public... But the Wii seems to have opened the market up dramatically to wider audience and some gamers have become annoyed that there little party had been crashed by a casual/non-gaming market

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

Ontain

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

so there aren't gamers that want a game that might encourage them to be more active? it doesn't apply to closed minded ppl that have a narrow idea of what a game should and shouldn't be.

well have games like guitar hero and rock back. come on those are fisher price toys attached to a video game. same thing.

No quite I am pointing out the fact that the people who don't have itme to go out and walk are the ones with full time jobs.. This usually means middle aged adults.. If the person is too lazy and has plenty of time to do that, then I highly doubt they will spend that kind of money for that.. Specially when there are other indoor work out equipment that can do it as well...

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

bf2nutta

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

I think half the problem is the whole attitude of I liked gaming before it became cool/popular among the general public... But the Wii seems to have opened the market up dramatically to wider audience and some gamers have become annoyed that there little party had been crashed by a casual/non-gaming market

Which is hilarious when you think about it.. Nintendo has released more games in such little time then really any other dev out there.. Yet some how people are outraged that this company decided to make a different type of product.. Absolutely hilarious.

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[QUOTE="ChinoJamesKeene"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ChinoJamesKeene"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ChinoJamesKeene"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="ChinoJamesKeene"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="hornymushroom"]

How could something like this exist. It's a disgrace to gaming and shows that people should just watch TV all day and THINK they're exercising when they really just leaning side to side. This is a big step back for the gaming industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYBmAVuBns

mjarantilla

No, it's the biggest step FORWARD since WiiSports, and WiiSports was the biggest step forward since Pong. Hardcore gamers like you who bash it are like action movie junkies who wish that Hollywood should only make, well, action movies.

Wii sports is the reason i got a Wii but honestly Wiifit is going too far. If i want to exercise i'll go outside and run around, we don't really need some elaborate condecending aerobics video telling us what to do for $150. The Wii is meant to be for escapism and entertainment, i just can't see what anybody would get from a game simulating mundane exercises that could be done for free.

Yeah i know there are sports simulations, but how many poeple can be part of a club and play every week? let alone play for a pro team, at least sports games let you have that.

WiiFit isn't for exercise, it's for monitoring. Sure, you can exercise, but WiiFit provides detailed and helpful tools that you would otherwise have to create yourself (tracking graphs, comparisons, etc.). Exercise alone does no one any good unless the exerciser goes overboard with his workouts. Most people WANT to get fit, but most people can't be bothered with taking the time to track themselves getting fit. WiiFit does it for them. It lets them see their results in real-time, and with no more effort than it takes to change a TV channel.

Just as an analogous example, take hybrid cars. Part of the reason they help people save so much gas is because most hybrid cars have built-in mileage monitoring capabilities built right into the dashboard. Having that kind of at-your-fingertips, instant feedback goes a LONG way towards motivating you to keep up your positive momentum.

Yeah you could use it like that, but its being marketed as a fitness solution in itself. It's also pretty much pointless to track how fit you are getting, you should feel it when you are exerting yourself not looking at charts with happy stick figures underneath. If you want to get fit you are going to have to work to do it and you aren't going to get that stepping on and off that balance board, no amount of positive re-enforcement Wiifit gives you is really going to motivate you further than your own resolve.

Wrong. It's proven that even mild activity like Half an hour of walking and some yoga can have a significant impact on your fitness. WiiFit IS a fitness solution BECAUSE it provides positive reinforcement. Why do you think people hire personal trainers anyway, and why do you think those people see so many more benefits from their workouts than people who don't hire them? It's ALL about positive reinforcement. Having WiiFit doesn't preclude you from jogging or from lifting weights. It just helps you see the benefit. And the added exercises of WiiFit -- steps and yoga, among others -- are both proven to be effective fitness boosters.

So basically you are saying if you can get up to walk for 30mins you don't need Wiifit. Poeple get personal trainers because of the instruction they give about strengthening specific muscle groups and overall advise, but thats practical and logical. I just have trouble believing poeple would hold their computer generated stats as greater indicator of progress over the way they feel.

Oh my GOD, are you dyslexic? Can't you read when I say WIIFIT HELPS YOU TO MONITOR YOUR PROGRESS?

Here let me say it again. In nice, bolded, italicized, underlined, capitalized text:

WIIFIT HELPS YOU TO MONITOR YOUR PROGRESS.

It's seven words, none of them with more than three syllables. It CAN'T be that hard to understand.

And YES, personal trainers provide that level of instruction, too, but that's why personal trainers charge so much.

Basically you're just denying that positive reinforcement has any impact at all on a person's motivation to exercise. And that is just a stupid idea.

Is there really any need to personally attack me?

Maybe you need to work on your comprehension since I've already adressed your point twice. Maybe I should just accept that there are plenty of weak minded morons that need Wiifit to pat them on the back every week to keep exercising.

You basically summized that doing anything is better than nothing for your fitness and that Wiifit fits the bill.

First, read my edit.

Second, you can do your taxes without help, too, but most people still buy TurboTax because it takes away the hassle. It's not about being weak-minded, it's just about being inconvenienced. If you want to see REAL progress, you NEED feedback. Sure, you can do your thirty minute walk every day and HOPE you're making progress, but WiiFit SHOWS you your progress.

THAT is what you keep ignoring. You havent' "addressed" anything. You've been IGNORING everything because you keep thinking that WiiFit is supposed to REPLACE exercise. It's NOT. It's supposed to make exercise EASIER by removing the tedium of progress logging. Is that a BAD thing? Because it's just about the only product out there that actually does it (the Nike+iPod dongle does it, too, but only for jogging).

Well, I'm sorry if that what you think Im saying but im not ignoring your point. It your body, i don't think its fair to compare it to a tax return. It may hold some value for poeple, fair enough but i just figure since it's your health the feedback should be apparent and you should probably be exercising with some goal in mind. I'll just leave it at that.

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so there aren't gamers that want a game that might encourage them to be more active? it doesn't apply to closed minded ppl that have a narrow idea of what a game should and shouldn't be.

well have games like guitar hero and rock back. come on those are fisher price toys attached to a video game. same thing.

sSubZerOo

No quite I am pointing out the fact that the people who don't have itme to go out and walk are the ones with full time jobs.. This usually means middle aged adults.. If the person is too lazy and has plenty of time to do that, then I highly doubt they will spend that kind of money for that.. Specially when there are other indoor work out equipment that can do it as well...

I'm a 30 year old gamer with a full time job and married. I'm not out of shape and i still will get this. Why? because it combines gaming as well as some physical activity. and to me it looks like it could be fun because wiisports was fun for me as well. Why don't i go out and walk? because it bores me generally. I do play tennis and love it but I don't always have time to drive to the courts and find someone of my level to play with. hitting against a wall is boring to me. are you getting the picture here? for instance. why do physical therapy places like the wiisports for some of their patients? because the patients don't like doing some of the excerises with a ball or light weights but they love play wiisports.

here's the link

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"Doing your physical therapy is pretty boring," he said. "If you can make it into an enjoyable activity where you're moving physically and going through motions that are helping you recover, and as a part of that you're playing games that are fun, it's just a great, creative use of the technology."

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#63 sambalimbo
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How could something like this exist. It's a disgrace to gaming and shows that people should just watch TV all day and THINK they're exercising when they really just leaning side to side. This is a big step back for the gaming industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYBmAVuBns

mjarantilla

No, it's the biggest step FORWARD since WiiSports, and WiiSports was the biggest step forward since Pong. Hardcore gamers like you who bash it are like action movie junkies who wish that Hollywood should only make, well, action movies.

LOL you're the kind of guy that will love an eventual WiiGardener where you use your wii mote to simulate you cutting the busches

WiiFit is the best proof that the Wii should NOT be seen as a video game console

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#64 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]First, read my edit.

Second, you can do your taxes without help, too, but most people still buy TurboTax because it takes away the hassle. It's not about being weak-minded, it's just about being inconvenienced. If you want to see REAL progress, you NEED feedback. Sure, you can do your thirty minute walk every day and HOPE you're making progress, but WiiFit SHOWS you your progress.

THAT is what you keep ignoring. You havent' "addressed" anything. You've been IGNORING everything because you keep thinking that WiiFit is supposed to REPLACE exercise. It's NOT. It's supposed to make exercise EASIER by removing the tedium of progress logging. Is that a BAD thing? Because it's just about the only product out there that actually does it (the Nike+iPod dongle does it, too, but only for jogging).

ChinoJamesKeene

Well, I'm sorry if that what you think Im saying but im not ignoring your point. It your body, i don't think its fair to compare it to a tax return. It may hold some value for poeple, fair enough but i just figure since it's your health the feedback should be apparent and you should probably be exercising with some goal in mind. I'll just leave it at that.

Except the feedback is NOT apparent. That seems to be the point you keep on missing. If the feedback was so apparent, obesity wouldn't be nearly as big of a problem as it is now. And of COURSE you should be exercising with a goal. That is EXACTLY what WiiFit is supposed to help with. Keeping continuous and ACCURATE track of your progress is nearly as important as actually working towards your goal.

I'm only comparing it to a tax return by comparing the role of inconvenience in both problems. You can ignore it all you want, but inconvenience is the biggest reason why people don't exercise, and the fewer inconveniences there are, the more people can get started and the more people will stay on track.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

so there aren't gamers that want a game that might encourage them to be more active? it doesn't apply to closed minded ppl that have a narrow idea of what a game should and shouldn't be.

well have games like guitar hero and rock back. come on those are fisher price toys attached to a video game. same thing.

Ontain

No quite I am pointing out the fact that the people who don't have itme to go out and walk are the ones with full time jobs.. This usually means middle aged adults.. If the person is too lazy and has plenty of time to do that, then I highly doubt they will spend that kind of money for that.. Specially when there are other indoor work out equipment that can do it as well...

I'm a 30 year old gamer with a full time job and married. I'm not out of shape and i still will get this. Why? because it combines gaming as well as some physical activity. and to me it looks like it could be fun because wiisports was fun for me as well. Why don't i go out and walk? because it bores me generally. I do play tennis and love it but I don't always have time to drive to the courts and find someone of my level to play with. hitting against a wall is boring to me. are you getting the picture here? for instance. why do physical therapy places like the wiisports for some of their patients? because the patients don't like doing some of the excerises with a ball or light weights but they love play wiisports.

here's the link

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"Doing your physical therapy is pretty boring," he said. "If you can make it into an enjoyable activity where you're moving physically and going through motions that are helping you recover, and as a part of that you're playing games that are fun, it's just a great, creative use of the technology."

THUS why its specifically advertised for YOUR age group I just said that MIDDLE aged adults are getting this.. The average gamer is not in that age group.

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[QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

for everyone saying you could just go out and walk, etc.

That's not the point. ppl don't do exercise because it's not fun to them or they don't have motivation. wiifit tries to fill that. the games could be fun and the progress monitoring and competition with other family members or sending that into to your friends who have a wii gives motivation to keep doing it.

sSubZerOo

Quite honestly this complaining sounds like people originally wanted to buy this game.. The point is the product doesn't apply to the people on this forum.. Case closed.. Why is there so much debate over it? Maybe we should start talking about the fisher price games or other things such as that odviously ment for little children.. Who cares.. Quite honestly its a good idea imo..If anything this will help the industry by pulling more people into it, who originally would not.

I think half the problem is the whole attitude of I liked gaming before it became cool/popular among the general public... But the Wii seems to have opened the market up dramatically to wider audience and some gamers have become annoyed that there little party had been crashed by a casual/non-gaming market

Which is hilarious when you think about it.. Nintendo has released more games in such little time then really any other dev out there.. Yet some how people are outraged that this company decided to make a different type of product.. Absolutely hilarious.

Great point. We have already gotten a new Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Mario Party, Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, Brawl, and soon Mario Kart in about a year and a half from Nintendo. We've gotten everything as traditional gamers Nintendo would have given us if the Wii was still just dedicated to traditional hardcore gaming like the Cube and N64. In fact I can't remember a time when Nintendo released so many large IP titles in such a short time.

But on top of this, not in place of, Nintendo is capturing a large casual market. They're having they're cake and eating it too. It's quite a feat.

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Wii Fit is not targeted to core gamers so I could care less about it. Its obviously a gimmick to get more casuals to buy the system, just like Wii Sports.

I think Nintendo should focus on non-casual games though. EGM did a article in their April 2008 issue on the status of their games. Nintendo games were doing good and so were casual games. What was really hurting was hardcore games.

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#68 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="hornymushroom"]

How could something like this exist. It's a disgrace to gaming and shows that people should just watch TV all day and THINK they're exercising when they really just leaning side to side. This is a big step back for the gaming industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYBmAVuBns

sambalimbo

No, it's the biggest step FORWARD since WiiSports, and WiiSports was the biggest step forward since Pong. Hardcore gamers like you who bash it are like action movie junkies who wish that Hollywood should only make, well, action movies.

LOL you're the kind of guy that will love an eventual WiiGardener where you use your wii mote to simulate you cutting the busches

Wii Gardener? That actually would be nice to have. Customizing your own garden, cultivating growth, learning some of the basic intricacies of gardening. How is this different from, say Viva Pinata, where you do the same thing but with fantasy creatures? Or Zoo Tycoon?

You think you were being clever, but games like this have been around for a LONG time, and they hold a strong niche appeal among some gamers who don't always want games whose sole purpose seems to be to raise their blood pressure.

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How could something like DDR or Guitar Hero exist? It shows people should just watch a TV all day and THINK they're learning how to dance or play guitar. This is a HUGE mistake and a GREAT step back in the gaming industry.Haziqonfire

because they're games, and not disciplines.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

so there aren't gamers that want a game that might encourage them to be more active? it doesn't apply to closed minded ppl that have a narrow idea of what a game should and shouldn't be.

well have games like guitar hero and rock back. come on those are fisher price toys attached to a video game. same thing.

sSubZerOo

No quite I am pointing out the fact that the people who don't have itme to go out and walk are the ones with full time jobs.. This usually means middle aged adults.. If the person is too lazy and has plenty of time to do that, then I highly doubt they will spend that kind of money for that.. Specially when there are other indoor work out equipment that can do it as well...

I'm a 30 year old gamer with a full time job and married. I'm not out of shape and i still will get this. Why? because it combines gaming as well as some physical activity. and to me it looks like it could be fun because wiisports was fun for me as well. Why don't i go out and walk? because it bores me generally. I do play tennis and love it but I don't always have time to drive to the courts and find someone of my level to play with. hitting against a wall is boring to me. are you getting the picture here? for instance. why do physical therapy places like the wiisports for some of their patients? because the patients don't like doing some of the excerises with a ball or light weights but they love play wiisports.

here's the link

and a quote

"Doing your physical therapy is pretty boring," he said. "If you can make it into an enjoyable activity where you're moving physically and going through motions that are helping you recover, and as a part of that you're playing games that are fun, it's just a great, creative use of the technology."

THUS why its specifically advertised for YOUR age group I just said that MIDDLE aged adults are getting this.. The average gamer is not in that age group.

The average 360/PS3 gamer is 28 years old. 30 years old is not middle aged. :|

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I'm a 30 year old gamer with a full time job and married. I'm not out of shape and i still will get this. Why? because it combines gaming as well as some physical activity. and to me it looks like it could be fun because wiisports was fun for me as well. Why don't i go out and walk? because it bores me generally. I do play tennis and love it but I don't always have time to drive to the courts and find someone of my level to play with. hitting against a wall is boring to me. are you getting the picture here? for instance. why do physical therapy places like the wiisports for some of their patients? because the patients don't like doing some of the excerises with a ball or light weights but they love play wiisports.

here's the link

and a quote

"Doing your physical therapy is pretty boring," he said. "If you can make it into an enjoyable activity where you're moving physically and going through motions that are helping you recover, and as a part of that you're playing games that are fun, it's just a great, creative use of the technology."

sSubZerOo

THUS why its specifically advertised for YOUR age group I just said that MIDDLE aged adults are getting this.. The average gamer is not in that age group.

no the average gamer is my age. the average gamer on forums is much younger.

and also 30 is not middle aged unless you plan to live only to 60.

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#72 M3tro1d
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If you don't like it don't buy it simple. No one is forcing you to play it. Not every game has to involve guns, bald space marines or fast cars. There is room for all different types of games. I will buy it, not really for me but for my niece who would love it. It's selling very well in Japan and will do the same in US and Europe.

So I guess Nintendo were right to release it as people seem to want it.

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#73 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.Supafly1

No but you also don't have to buy a game like that, that costs more than an average game and ruins your eyes while doing holahoops.

huh? still dont understand what youre babblin about

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#74 PullTheTricker
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

I'm a 30 year old gamer with a full time job and married. I'm not out of shape and i still will get this. Why? because it combines gaming as well as some physical activity. and to me it looks like it could be fun because wiisports was fun for me as well. Why don't i go out and walk? because it bores me generally. I do play tennis and love it but I don't always have time to drive to the courts and find someone of my level to play with. hitting against a wall is boring to me. are you getting the picture here? for instance. why do physical therapy places like the wiisports for some of their patients? because the patients don't like doing some of the excerises with a ball or light weights but they love play wiisports.

here's the link

and a quote

"Doing your physical therapy is pretty boring," he said. "If you can make it into an enjoyable activity where you're moving physically and going through motions that are helping you recover, and as a part of that you're playing games that are fun, it's just a great, creative use of the technology."

Ontain

THUS why its specifically advertised for YOUR age group I just said that MIDDLE aged adults are getting this.. The average gamer is not in that age group.

no the average gamer is my age. the average gamer on forums is much younger.

and also 30 is not middle aged unless you plan to live only to 60.

You're elderly after the age of 60... not adult anymore :P

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#75 Cranler
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Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.TDLlama

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

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#76 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.Cranler

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

the point of wiifit is that it tries to make exercise fun. i guess that point went right over some peoples heads.

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#77 TDLlama
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[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.Cranler

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

Not everyone wants to play shooters or RPGs or traditional hardcore games. I agree that Wii Fit is a little silly and I'm not buying it, but if there's a market for it, why not tap into it?

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#78 samusarmada
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is noone actually excited about the possibilities of the balance board and games? no, hmm seems you're all to focused on the fitness thing.
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#80 kaangonultas
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Seriously what the hell is wrong with these people. If you want to lose weight get out of the house and run.
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#81 ogvampire
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Seriously what the hell is wrong with these people. If you want to lose weight get out of the house and run. kaangonultas

does that sound fun? no

WiiFit is trying to make exercising fun.

why play Guitar Hero? go out and get a real guitar.

silly argument

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#82 KingOfKonging
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and WiiSports was the biggest step forward since Pong

mjarantilla

Wow, what an asinine thing to say. Wii Sports the biggest step forward since the game that basically started the industry? Please. I have nothing against Wii Fit, it's just such an absurd statement.

I also like that you've carved your fanboy percentages into your signature, yet the vast majority of posts I read from you are very predictable Nintendo babble.

I suppose that 1/3 of you is the only vocal part.

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#83 Always-Honest
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Nintendo tools have been brainwashed into thinking all this shovelware is a good thing and that they should eat it up. Nintendo truly has gone downhill, and so have the fans.TheMysticHorse

you don't get out much do you...?

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#84 james28893
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I might buy it. Looks like fun and I need some excersising.Weslii

Go outside and play sports with friends. It's multiplayer and the graphics aren't half bad.

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#85 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.ogvampire

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

the point of wiifit is that it tries to make exercise fun. i guess that point went right over some peoples heads.

Go learn how to do an ollie on a skateboard. Very rewarding feeling to learn it. Put up a badminton net in your yard, find people to play softball or volleyball with etc, so many possibilities.

Doing things in real life are much more fun and rewarding. Unlike shooting aliens these are things that can easily be done in real life.

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#86 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Weslii"]I might buy it. Looks like fun and I need some excersising.james28893

Go outside and play sports with friends. It's multiplayer and the graphics aren't half bad.

why buy videogames? just go outside and play sports with friends.

try again

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#87 james28893
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[QUOTE="james28893"]

[QUOTE="Weslii"]I might buy it. Looks like fun and I need some excersising.ogvampire

Go outside and play sports with friends. It's multiplayer and the graphics aren't half bad.

why buy videogames? just go outside and play sports with friends.

try again

Why buy a game to get fit though? I buy games to do things I couldn't do in real life.

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#88 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Weslii"]I might buy it. Looks like fun and I need some excersising.james28893

Go outside and play sports with friends. It's multiplayer and the graphics aren't half bad.

you could say instead of DDR just listen to music and dance on your own.

instead of Guitar Hero learn a real instrument.

instead of Madden play the actual sport.

instead of COD4 join the army.

if you only look at one aspect then all those are as valid as your statement. of course they are all flawed because there's more than 1 reason for getting the game.

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#89 ralphie91819
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What the hell is wrong with all of you? If you don't want it, don't buy it. This is most dfinately not the thing that will destroy gaming. And why do some people fear physical activity so much?
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#90 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.Cranler

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

the point of wiifit is that it tries to make exercise fun. i guess that point went right over some peoples heads.

Go learn how to do an ollie on a skateboard. Very rewarding feeling to learn it. Put up a badminton net in your yard, find people to play softball or volleyball with etc, so many possibilities.

Doing things in real life are much more fun and rewarding. Unlike shooting aliens these are things that can easily be done in real life.

um... are you trying to convince me to not buy WiiFit or to not ever play videogames again?

why are madden games popular when you can just go outside and play football? in fact, why even makes sports videogames when you can just go out and play them with friends in real life?

why is guitar hero popular when you can just get a real guitar?

your examples failed. try again

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#91 II_Seraphim_II
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I loved Wii sports, and enjoyed it. I play it with my entire family and we have a ball. But everytime i hear Wiifit a part of me dies. This is what gaming has evolved...rather devolved into. The Art, beauty, attetion to detail, story, and character development of games is slowly being pushed out the door in exchange for things to suit the casual gamers. I dont mind at all, I mean the more gamers, the better...but for the love of god dont buy things like WiiFit. Doing so only decreases the collective IQ of the gaming population. Do you like getting milked? Do you like 50Cent Bulletproof? No? Well, everytime you buy games like WiiSports devs seem to think you do. They could spend millions making games that elevate video games to a higher medium of fine art, or they could spend a few thousand making a cheap excuse for a game that makes you pay $250 + $50 to do things you can at home for about $5. By buying WiiFit, we are telling devs that they should keep treating us like morons, because...well, thats what we would be to pay so much money to imaginary hoola hoop....
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#92 james28893
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.ogvampire

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

the point of wiifit is that it tries to make exercise fun. i guess that point went right over some peoples heads.

Go learn how to do an ollie on a skateboard. Very rewarding feeling to learn it. Put up a badminton net in your yard, find people to play softball or volleyball with etc, so many possibilities.

Doing things in real life are much more fun and rewarding. Unlike shooting aliens these are things that can easily be done in real life.

um... are you trying to convince me to not buy WiiFit or to not ever play videogames again?

why are madden games popular when you can just go outside and play football? in fact, why even makes sports videogames when you can just go out and play them with friends in real life?

why is guitar hero popular when you can just get a real guitar?

your examples failed. try again

It doesn't take long to learn how to play a sport. To learn how to play a guitar, you need to invest considerable amounts of time to be able to play the songs you can on Guitar Hero instantly. Yes, sports games should be banned, would get more people off their sofas and outside.

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#93 ralphie91819
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Whether any of you like it or not. Wii fit is the next big thing. You will see it everywhere. It's goin to be like when Tea Bo was a big fad and everyone did it for a while.
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#94 Vis-a-Vis
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Wii Fit looks awful, I cant even really explain it, im sure it will be hugely popular but i'd rather play SSBB and SMG over this tripe.
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#95 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="TDLlama"]Not everyone wants to play Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4, you know.james28893

If you want to have shootouts with aliens your only choice is a video game.

If you need exercise then find a physically demanding hobby or simply do some pushups and situps.

the point of wiifit is that it tries to make exercise fun. i guess that point went right over some peoples heads.

Go learn how to do an ollie on a skateboard. Very rewarding feeling to learn it. Put up a badminton net in your yard, find people to play softball or volleyball with etc, so many possibilities.

Doing things in real life are much more fun and rewarding. Unlike shooting aliens these are things that can easily be done in real life.

um... are you trying to convince me to not buy WiiFit or to not ever play videogames again?

why are madden games popular when you can just go outside and play football? in fact, why even makes sports videogames when you can just go out and play them with friends in real life?

why is guitar hero popular when you can just get a real guitar?

your examples failed. try again

It doesn't take long to learn how to play a sport. To learn how to play a guitar, you need to invest considerable amounts of time to be able to play the songs you can on Guitar Hero instantly. Yes, sports games should be banned, would get more people off their sofas and outside.

shows how much you know. you can play a guitar without having to invest alot of time.

same with sports.

but if you want to be good at it, then it will take time. LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE... duh

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#96 Ontain
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Yes, sports games should be banned, would get more people off their sofas and outside.

james28893

you really think that if they banned sports games that ppl would be outside playing more? :lol:

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#97 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

and WiiSports was the biggest step forward since Pong

KingOfKonging

Wow, what an asinine thing to say. Wii Sports the biggest step forward since the game that basically started the industry? Please. I have nothing against Wii Fit, it's just such an absurd statement.

I also like that you've carved your fanboy percentages into your signature, yet the vast majority of posts I read from you are very predictable Nintendo babble.

I suppose that 1/3 of you is the only vocal part.

a) It really is, if you think about it. Do you really expect games to remain limited to a gamepad + HDTV for the next twenty years? Physical interaction is going to be a part of gaming from now on, and WiiSports, like it or not, was a watershed. It was the first really popular motion sensing game, just like Pong was the first really popular GAME, and both WiiSports and Pong take the new developments by the basics one step at a time, which is how it should be with first generation products. I'm not saying WiiSports is as important as Pong, but that it can represent a similar sort of shift in popularity.

I can also make a similar comparison between motion sensing control and 3D graphics, but that's a bit more abstract, dealing mainly with comparable relative significance to their respective fields of expertise rather than direct point-to-point comparisons.

b) That's because you only ever bother to reply to me in Wii-related threads, where you spout similarly predictable ANTI-Nintendo babble. But I'm more of a PC gamer than I am a Wii gamer, and on PC threads (whenever a big one comes up) I'm even more vocal about PC gaming than I am with Wii gaming. As for my percentages for the 360 and PS3, I still like games on those platforms, but not nearly as much as the other two, hence their very low percentages.

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#98 ralphie91819
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And quit talking about how Wii fit will devolve gaming. There is room for any type of game in this world. If it sells a million fine, but that doesn't mean games like Gears are going away because the devs still know that Gears will also sell a million.

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#99 Michael85
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This thread had less thought put into it than your average Uwe Boll movie.
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#100 Cranler
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um... are you trying to convince me to not buy WiiFit or to not ever play videogames again?

why are madden games popular when you can just go outside and play football? in fact, why even makes sports videogames when you can just go out and play them with friends in real life?

why is guitar hero popular when you can just get a real guitar?

your examples failed. try again

ogvampire

Your not understanding my point. People dont play Madden as a replacement for playing football in real life or for excercise. Tackle football can be pretty dangerous anyway.

Can you walk onto the field at a Colts game and take over for Peyton Manning?

People arent playing guitar hero as a replacement for really learning how to play guitar.

People will play wii fit as a replacement for a real life hobby that gives you a workout. Thats not good.