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#1 PS3_FTW
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Have you noticed that with a lot of interviews about the Wii, developers are saying "We want to make the game easy to play, with this new controller" Read between the lines, what they are saying is that they know only kids buy the Wii, so they need to make games aimed towards kids.

Take for instance Mortal Combat on Wii. The people that buy the Wii cant pull off the super moves, so they have to dumb down the game, replacing it with 'easy to use controlls'. I dont want an easy game, I want to be challenged by it. Same with SSX, the challenge has been taken away.

Even Nintendo is dumbing down their games. RPGs are challenging, so they couldnt put that on Wii, so they removed all the RPG parts of Super Paper Mario, leaving you with a bland sidescrolling platformer that we've seen for the past 20 years. (By the way, why the hell is that game hyped AAA, sheep must be really grasping for straws.)

With PS3 its different, gameplay isnt being lost through the SIXAXIS controller, its being retained. Look at GTA IV, for instance. My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging. But if this was on the Wii, not only would all the violence have to be toned down, but so would the challenge, because sheep cant handle hard games. I've played Zelda OoT, I completed it in like an hour it was so easy.

If you all want your games to be a walk through the park, buy a Wii, but I'll stcik with challenging games like GTA IV

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#2 fatzombiepigeon
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That was awesome.
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#3 joeblak
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GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:
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#4 Sonick54
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I didn't bother to read that honestly :| Heck, i don't even know why i posted in a Ps3_FTW topic. BTW, watch as how so many gullible SW posters will take him seriously and make this thread go to 500
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#6 ithilgore2006
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Grand Theft Auto is not challenging. I think you should be joining that line of "simple game playing children" if that's what you consider challenging.
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#7 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Wii games can be challenging,too.:|

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#8 PS3_FTW
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GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:joeblak
it is, try completing it without using any cheats, then come here laughing
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#9 Tjeremiah1988
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threads like these make me sleep now.
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#10 Riverwolf007
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Lets see some screenshots from that GTA demo.
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#11 fatzombiepigeon
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Darkwatch was challenging. Gears of War was challenging. GTA is not.
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#12 beinss
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Your dad works at Sony? im sorry. Wii is made to make gaming easier. That doesnt mean simpler. Just easier. PS3 has the dumbest controller ever. 4 buttons on the top? whats the learning curve for that? I guess u have to spend all your time learning the controls for a Ps3, doesnt leave much time for a social life. But i guess that never came up as a conflict for Playstation owners.
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#13 haris12121212
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GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:joeblak
I don't agree witht eh TC but I dont agree with you either... GTA is challenging.
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#14 joeblak
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[QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:PS3_FTW
it is, try completing it without using any cheats, then come here laughing

 I beat GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas without cheating. 

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#15 hockeyruler12
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take some pictures of the GTA IV demo for me, or nobody will believe you
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My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging. PS3_FTW
R* is making GTA.
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#17 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:haris12121212
I don't agree witht eh TC but I dont agree with you either... GTA is challenging.

I guess it depends on taste. I don't really like it.

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#18 voxware00
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"With PS3 its different, gameplay isnt being lost through the SIXAXIS controller, its being retained. Look at GTA IV, for instance. My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging."

 

instant-bs

but we're so proud that you're able to deliever things from point A to point B... congrats

maybe they'll give you less time on the clock this gen.. you know, to ramp up the brilliant challenge

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#19 joeblak
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[QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:haris12121212
I don't agree witht eh TC but I dont agree with you either... GTA is challenging.

Maybe a few side missions, but definitely not the storyline missions. Games are much easier nowadays.  

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#21 -Spock-
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I started skimming over your post. I saw Mortal Kombat. I left.

 

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#22 Iyethar
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That was awesome. fatzombiepigeon

No, not so much.  He's far too obvious about it. 

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[QUOTE="PS3_FTW"]My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging. Hewkii
R* is making GTA.

a demo, challenging :|
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Tiger Woods PGA 07/thread
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#25 xboxdevil
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Your dad works at Sony? im sorry. Wii is made to make gaming easier. That doesnt mean simpler. Just easier. PS3 has the dumbest controller ever. 4 buttons on the top? whats the learning curve for that? I guess u have to spend all your time learning the controls for a Ps3, doesnt leave much time for a social life. But i guess that never came up as a conflict for Playstation owners.beinss
Controls are just like PS1 and PS2 and not hard at all to pick up and play. Have you only played Nintendo and X-Box?
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#26 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:joeblak

I don't agree witht eh TC but I dont agree with you either... GTA is challenging.

Maybe a few side missions, but definitely not the storyline missions. Games are much easier nowadays.

Yeah I know games are easier now, but I mean you still need a bit of practice if you wanna beat the game (GTA in this case) seriously I doubt that the majority of GTA players get some missions out of the first try, especially when it comes to new "vehicules" (The mini helicopter thing in Vice City where you need to place explosifs I needed 3 tries to actually get it right, same with a few boat missions)
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#27 Sonick54
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The funny thing about this thread.....some people think he is serious :lol:
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#28 PS3_FTW
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Tiger Woods PGA 07/threadDarthmatt
you're using a golf game as ownage?
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#29 PS3_FTW
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Tiger Woods PGA 07/threadDarthmatt
you're using a golf game as ownage?
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#30 MrAran
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Mortal Kombat is now a kids game?
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#31 yoshi_64
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Mortal Kombat can't be challenging with the new controls? Uhh... how about no. :| Trauma Center is easier to play on the Wii than the DS, but the game is still hard as hell, and harder than most PS3 games out there. The controls can be new, but the game can be deep. SSBM is the perfect example. Simple fighter to pick up and play, but deep and hard for those who know how to really play.
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#32 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="joeblak"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:haris12121212

I don't agree witht eh TC but I dont agree with you either... GTA is challenging.

Maybe a few side missions, but definitely not the storyline missions. Games are much easier nowadays.

Yeah I know games are easier now, but I mean you still need a bit of practice if you wanna beat the game (GTA in this case) seriously I doubt that the majority of GTA players get some missions out of the first try, especially when it comes to new "vehicules" (The mini helicopter thing in Vice City where you need to place explosifs I needed 3 tries to actually get it right, same with a few boat missions)

I found anything steering an aircraft a little hard in that game, but it wasn't the difficulty ... it was the controls on some of the flying mechanics... that's just me, and I don't really play it much so I don't mean my word to be anymore than a casual experience with the games over at a friends house.
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#33 Darthmatt
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Tiger Woods PGA 07/threadPS3_FTW
you're using a golf game as ownage?

Well the title of this thread says " Wii games are targeted towards children" and I presented a title that proves otherwise.
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#34 fatzombiepigeon
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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Tiger Woods PGA 07/threadPS3_FTW
you're using a golf game as ownage?

I think he's talking about difficulty.

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#35 voxware00
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you saw mortal Combat... get it right :P

anyways... ssx blur, trauma center... heck later stages in monkeyball...

these games are not for children

 

i actually gave my copy of trauma center unopened to the family who bought my 2nd wii off of ebay.... it's too hard for the kids so they stick to wii sports  ... i shouldve never threw it in

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#36 MronoC
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Nintendo games have always focused on being easy to pick up and play, but difficult to master, this is nothing new
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#37 Lazy_Boy88
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Yeah the Wii just like the DS... flooded with crappy minigames and kiddy junk. There are some really good games for both but a lot of the time any cool innovative gameplay is ruined by them making the games way too easy to "appeal to a wider audience".... when really they should be making intuitive controls with depth that wean you into a rewarding deep experience.
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#38 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="PS3_FTW"]My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging. Hewkii
R* is making GTA.

Ownage Approve!!!!!

 

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#39 Dr-Doctor
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Have you noticed that with a lot of interviews about the Wii, developers are saying "We want to make the game easy to play, with this new controller" Read between the lines, what they are saying is that they know only kids buy the Wii, so they need to make games aimed towards kids

PS3_FTW
read between the lines. the Wii is aim for adults as well as kids, the motion sensing would simplify the way we play games but that doesn't mean it's dumbing down the game. super paper mario is a sidescrolling RPG. You can't complete Zelda in an hour because the game is more than an hour,so this means you are a liar. I doubt you have the wii judging by your name. I think the senseless destruction of GTA is dumbing you down.
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#40 Kev_Unreal
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GTA was meant to be difficult? I don't know, I never found a GTA game too difficult.
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#41 Kev_Unreal
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The funny thing about this thread.....some people think he is serious :lol:Sonick54

Do you mean this is just a joke thread?

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#42 Dr-Doctor
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My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging.

PS3_FTW
oh and add to my previous post, Sony don't make GTA so i doubt you played the game. You're not very good at lying. actually i shouldn't believe everything you said.
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#43 voxware00
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the hardest missions in gta:sa weren't even required to beat the game

i'm talking about the missions you get from david cross' character . no not tobias

the stupid shooting one i managed to beat by luck after 10 tries 

and the mission after it was hard just due to crappy random gasoline , and flying the difficult to control toy airplane  

the flight, melee, and targeting all felt so tacked on

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#44 wooooode
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The games are ment for everyone. Its like movies Nintendo makes family films like those comedys with Robin Williams or Eddie Murphy, while Sony or M$ make more R rated movies. Its the same thing but you know what is funny R rated movies never do as well as the family films because the fan base is so much smaller.
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GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:joeblak
That was my first reaction, too.
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[QUOTE="joeblak"]GTA challenging? :lol::lol::lol:PS3_FTW
it is, try completing it without using any cheats, then come here laughing

i've beaten gta 3, vc, and sa without using cheats the first time through and i didn't break a sweat. They're easy games, although there are missions that are a bit difficult, like that one where you have to blow up the helicopter at the end of the highway in sa, or the one where you have to shoot down the plane and get the packages and then drive away in gta3, but for the most part, gta games are easy. 

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the hardest missions in gta:sa weren't even required to beat the game

i'm talking about the missions you get from david cross' character . no not tobias

the stupid shooting one i managed to beat by luck after 10 tries

and the mission after it was hard just due to crappy random gasoline , and flying the difficult to control toy airplane

the flight, melee, and targeting all felt so tacked on

voxware00
I did hate the damn toy airplane mission. A good deal of the story missions that were hard just required a well placed fire truck used like a bowling ball (with the baddies as pins).
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#48 Breesy
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Kinda what someone said above.

For the most part:

PS3/360 = PG-13/R

Wii = G

Now the 360/PS3 might have a few G and the Wii might have a few R but those are in the minority.

Some people like R rated "movies" while others like G.

Now is the Wii a kids console?  I dont think it is but with all the "G" games I will never pick one up because I was never interested in Nintendos Zelda and Mario games.  And it is looked at as a kids console with all the kids games that are made for it. 

I really believe in the future a lot of people will own a Wii but own very few games.  I know that I would lose interest, as I already have while playing at a friends.  Game sales will go down but people will still buy a Wii because of its price, making it an impulse buy.  However, after a few months/years it will just sit by the TV and become another dust collector.

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Have you noticed that with a lot of interviews about the Wii, developers are saying "We want to make the game easy to play, with this new controller" Read between the lines, what they are saying is that they know only kids buy the Wii, so they need to make games aimed towards kids.

Take for instance Mortal Combat on Wii. The people that buy the Wii cant pull off the super moves, so they have to dumb down the game, replacing it with 'easy to use controlls'. I dont want an easy game, I want to be challenged by it. Same with SSX, the challenge has been taken away.

Even Nintendo is dumbing down their games. RPGs are challenging, so they couldnt put that on Wii, so they removed all the RPG parts of Super Paper Mario, leaving you with a bland sidescrolling platformer that we've seen for the past 20 years. (By the way, why the hell is that game hyped AAA, sheep must be really grasping for straws.)

With PS3 its different, gameplay isnt being lost through the SIXAXIS controller, its being retained. Look at GTA IV, for instance. My dad works at SOny so I get early builds of games, and I have a short demo of GTA IV, and believe me its very challenging. But if this was on the Wii, not only would all the violence have to be toned down, but so would the challenge, because sheep cant handle hard games. I've played Zelda OoT, I completed it in like an hour it was so easy.

If you all want your games to be a walk through the park, buy a Wii, but I'll stcik with challenging games like GTA IV

PS3_FTW

Seriously?
Honestly, my dad works at Sony, too!
 I got that early build, and it is seriously the greatest game ever. What was your favorite part?

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#50 trophylocoste
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Wii games can be challenging,too.:|

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