wii < dead rising> official site launch, new pics

dr-venkman I ask you a question then. Have you ever played Dead Rising? What was fun about it to you? For me, it was just about everything, but if I had to choose one thing it was the amount of zombies, sounds stupid, but just play it. Killing 20 zombies is not the same as killing over 9000!falconclan

MOD'S EDIT: I removed the censor bypasses.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]They both look like the game I know and love to death. I loved it because it was not an RE clone or a zombie shooter. It was a direct nod to those great zombie B flicks.

It is a shame it will be turned into a game like that so it is digestible to the few Wii fans it will have appeal for.

mdisen

It's mind-boggling how ignorant you are.

You don't have clue what we "fanboys" are even talking about.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Dead Rising with RE4 Wii controls = win. Crappier graphics in exchange for better controls = Win. I just love watching all the fanboys scream "downgrade! downgrade!" They were probably all part of the group complaining about the game when it first came out. Now that it's on the Wii, "Quick! What makes my version better? Buh, buh, buh... Downgrade and it will be a sloppy port just like RE4 Wii edition! Ya, that'll really claim the ownage!" F#!%, I hate fanboys! club-sandwich

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.falconclan

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

[QUOTE="SpaceMountain86"]The game was crap on the 360 and will be crap on the Wii. Your point? Dead Rising benefitted from being a very early 360 title with very little competition.falconclan

It was incredible, both technically in graphics and in gameplay. It was difficult, frustrating at times to the point where I want to toss my controller at my television, but it was still fun and definitely a spectacle, still is.

While I think the game is good it suffer from some very serious design flaws. For instance they clearly had a large emphasis on being able to use almost anything as a weapon from pies to traffic cones to soccer balls, and yet at every boss fight the only effective weapon to use is a gun in almost all occasions. This isn't helped by the fact that the controls for shooting are horrible counter intuitive. Going from aiming to free running is extremly jarring and disorienting and I always felt like there was too much delay between the controller and Franks Movements. Sorry for the rant but just thowing in my 2 cents.

[QUOTE="falconclan"]dr-venkman I ask you a question then. Have you ever played Dead Rising? What was fun about it to you? For me, it was just about everything, but if I had to choose one thing it was the amount of zombies, sounds stupid, but just play it. Killing 20 zombies is not the same as killing over 9000!dr-venkman

All that stuff was fun because there were so many zombies to deal with and that it was a snabox game. Without those zombies you just run around the mall free as a bird.

I already said zombies were not the objective but the obstacle. It's a shame they are turning into a game with episodes and a "forgiving" save system.

[QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="SpaceMountain86"]The game was crap on the 360 and will be crap on the Wii. Your point? Dead Rising benefitted from being a very early 360 title with very little competition.Sparky04

It was incredible, both technically in graphics and in gameplay. It was difficult, frustrating at times to the point where I want to toss my controller at my television, but it was still fun and definitely a spectacle, still is.

While I think the game is good it suffer from some very serious design flaws. Almost all of the came from design flaws and ideas. For instance they clearly had a large emphasis on being able to use almost anything as a weapon from pies to traffic cones to soccer balls, and yet at every boss fight the only effective weapon to use is a gun in almost all occasions. This isn't helped by the fact that the controls for shooting are horrible counter intuitive. Going from aiming to free running is extremly jarring and disorienting and I always felt like there was too much delay between the controller and Franks Movements. Sorry for the rant but just thowing in my 2 cents.

I never used a gun save for the one battle you had no choice at the beginning. I used swords with a book that gave them twice the durability. Some battles I used a hockey stick.

It is not a shooting game.

[QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.mdisen

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Dead Rising with RE4 Wii controls = win. Crappier graphics in exchange for better controls = Win. I just love watching all the fanboys scream "downgrade! downgrade!" They were probably all part of the group complaining about the game when it first came out. Now that it's on the Wii, "Quick! What makes my version better? Buh, buh, buh... Downgrade and it will be a sloppy port just like RE4 Wii edition! Ya, that'll really claim the ownage!" F#!%, I hate fanboys! mdisen

And you somehow do know what you're talking about because you have so much hands on experience with Dead Rising Wii?

[QUOTE="falconclan"]dr-venkman I ask you a question then. Have you ever played Dead Rising? What was fun about it to you? For me, it was just about everything, but if I had to choose one thing it was the amount of zombies, sounds stupid, but just play it. Killing 20 zombies is not the same as killing over 9000!dr-venkman

[QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.falconclan

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

There are screens available on Capcoms website including comments by Capcom about the game. They all point to a crappy zombie shooter and RE mechanics.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Dead Rising with RE4 Wii controls = win. Crappier graphics in exchange for better controls = Win. I just love watching all the fanboys scream "downgrade! downgrade!" They were probably all part of the group complaining about the game when it first came out. Now that it's on the Wii, "Quick! What makes my version better? Buh, buh, buh... Downgrade and it will be a sloppy port just like RE4 Wii edition! Ya, that'll really claim the ownage!" F#!%, I hate fanboys! dr-venkman

All you do is blurt out fanboy....... thats it.

The zombies were what made the game stand out. It was difficult to simply run around them, scenarios never played out the same way as before because the legions of them were so vast, transporting civs and keeping up with the time was what gave it a certain difficulty games are lacking now a days, It hasn't been released sure, but everyone KNOWS that the wii can't handle that many enemies on screen, it can't even come close, and without the legions of zombies there goes the difficulty, the strategy and the amount of unknowns in the game. I never knew if I was going to make it from one place or the other alive because like I said, zombies were a many, but now, I can just run around them. falconclan

Why can't it handle a lot of zombies? It's not using the same graphics engine. Remember the village level at the beginning of Resident Evil 4? There were a couple dozen zombies in the village, and that's a Gamecube game.

[QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Dead Rising with RE4 Wii controls = win. Crappier graphics in exchange for better controls = Win. I just love watching all the fanboys scream "downgrade! downgrade!" They were probably all part of the group complaining about the game when it first came out. Now that it's on the Wii, "Quick! What makes my version better? Buh, buh, buh... Downgrade and it will be a sloppy port just like RE4 Wii edition! Ya, that'll really claim the ownage!" F#!%, I hate fanboys! club-sandwich

And you somehow do know what you're talking about because you have so much hands on experience with Dead Rising Wii?

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Dead Rising with RE4 Wii controls = win. Crappier graphics in exchange for better controls = Win. I just love watching all the fanboys scream "downgrade! downgrade!" They were probably all part of the group complaining about the game when it first came out. Now that it's on the Wii, "Quick! What makes my version better? Buh, buh, buh... Downgrade and it will be a sloppy port just like RE4 Wii edition! Ya, that'll really claim the ownage!" F#!%, I hate fanboys! dr-venkman

[QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.falconclan

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

[QUOTE="falconclan"] The zombies were what made the game stand out. It was difficult to simply run around them, scenarios never played out the same way as before because the legions of them were so vast, transporting civs and keeping up with the time was what gave it a certain difficulty games are lacking now a days, It hasn't been released sure, but everyone KNOWS that the wii can't handle that many enemies on screen, it can't even come close, and without the legions of zombies there goes the difficulty, the strategy and the amount of unknowns in the game. I never knew if I was going to make it from one place or the other alive because like I said, zombies were a many, but now, I can just run around them. mdisen

Why can't it handle a lot of zombies? It's not using the same graphics engine. Remember the village level at the beginning of Resident Evil 4? There were a couple dozen zombies in the village, and that's a Gamecube game.

Anyways back on topic, dozens doesn't come close to hundreds, and the zombies in DR are a lot more detailed, or were, than the villagers in RE4.

well at least I played the original DR, you obviously didn't so my opinion is more relevant than yours, and anyone with common sense and that actually played DR obviously knows that the Wii version will fail on an epic scale.club-sandwich

Well, if you're so wise, why bother making an effort about posting in this thread? You've already made up your mind.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"][QUOTE="falconclan"]dr-venkman I ask you a question then. Have you ever played Dead Rising? What was fun about it to you? For me, it was just about everything, but if I had to choose one thing it was the amount of zombies, sounds stupid, but just play it. Killing 20 zombies is not the same as killing over 9000!falconclan

Even then it would suck. What made the game great, as we have all said except for one person who can only blurt out fanboy when we does not like what we said, were all the zombies.

If Capcom ever says something like "we made the zombies faster and stronger" you know that they games has 0 merit, if it had any in the first place.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.dr-venkman

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

Anyways, this brings up another thing, are you revoking your arguement that zombies weren't that important?

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.dr-venkman

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

Yet you say stuff like "better controls" when the Wii has time and time again had awful controls, or cheap basic controls, have you played the game? We have no idea what it will be like but you do?

hmmmmmm... maybe you hate fanboys so much because you hate that part of yourself.

Wow, a couple dozen huh? Yeah, well its also a wii game, and I happen to own it. At most times they weren't all on screen, and anyways you calling them zombies is almost insulting to me. They weren't zombies.

Anyways back on topic, dozens doesn't come close to hundreds, and the zombies in DR are a lot more detailed, or were, than the villagers in RE4.

falconclan

But you exaggerate.

It doesn't look as bad as you say. 35+ zombies isn't enough?

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="falconclan"]

[QUOTE="mdisen"]You know what's really sad? These Dead Rising fanboys out of some silly loyalty to the Xbox360 are hoping this Wii-make fails, even though its success is the best chance for a Dead Rising 2 on the Xbox360.Coyo7e

Really, both the screens of the 360 version look VASTLY superior to the wii screens. Blood effects are better, zombies are higher in numbers, and while not the best image of the game (I think its the ugliest section in the game anyways, never went there except to get to the food store or hardware shop anyways) it still looks a ton better than the wii version, and thats to be expected, but my complaint isn't "teh graphics" its "teh zombies"

What's your point? That doesn't have anything to do with anything. That's like complaining about Nintendo DS Mario because it's not as good as Super Mario Galaxy.

Yet you say stuff like "better controls" when the Wii has time and time again had awful controls, or cheap basic controls, have you played the game? We have no idea what it will be like but you do?

hmmmmmm... maybe you hate fanboys so much because you hate that part of yourself.

It may end up being better than the few screens he posted, in fact I have no doubt it will, but it won't be close to the equivalent, and if anyone says other wise I think that is foolish. I think its quite obvious that the wii's limits are harming the gameplay.

[QUOTE="falconclan"] Wow, a couple dozen huh? Yeah, well its also a wii game, and I happen to own it. At most times they weren't all on screen, and anyways you calling them zombies is almost insulting to me. They weren't zombies.

Anyways back on topic, dozens doesn't come close to hundreds, and the zombies in DR are a lot more detailed, or were, than the villagers in RE4.

mdisen

But you exaggerate.

It doesn't look as bad as you say.

[QUOTE="falconclan"] Wow, a couple dozen huh? Yeah, well its also a wii game, and I happen to own it. At most times they weren't all on screen, and anyways you calling them zombies is almost insulting to me. They weren't zombies.

Anyways back on topic, dozens doesn't come close to hundreds, and the zombies in DR are a lot more detailed, or were, than the villagers in RE4.

mdisen

But you exaggerate.

It doesn't look as bad as you say. 35+ zombies isn't enough?

No, not really. I have seen all the Wii screens and that is by far the best. Even so, 35 is not enough.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"]

well at least I played the original DR, you obviously didn't so my opinion is more relevant than yours, and anyone with common sense and that actually played DR obviously knows that the Wii version will fail on an epic scale.mdisen

Well, if you're so wise, why bother making an effort about posting in this thread? You've already made up your mind.

[QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"]

well at least I played the original DR, you obviously didn't so my opinion is more relevant than yours, and anyone with common sense and that actually played DR obviously knows that the Wii version will fail on an epic scale.club-sandwich

Well, if you're so wise, why bother making an effort about posting in this thread? You've already made up your mind.

Yes, I don't know what to say to such a closed-minded fanboy. What's it to you? Why do you care if DR entertains some Wii owners?

[QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"]

well at least I played the original DR, you obviously didn't so my opinion is more relevant than yours, and anyone with common sense and that actually played DR obviously knows that the Wii version will fail on an epic scale.club-sandwich

Well, if you're so wise, why bother making an effort about posting in this thread? You've already made up your mind.

The sad part it is it will fail to be a good Dead Rising game but all the gamers who are only good at light gun games because they fail at other controllers will make it a market success. Well, there are not enough of those, but there are plenty of people who have no clue and will just buy another zombie shooter.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="mdisen"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"]

well at least I played the original DR, you obviously didn't so my opinion is more relevant than yours, and anyone with common sense and that actually played DR obviously knows that the Wii version will fail on an epic scale.mdisen

Well, if you're so wise, why bother making an effort about posting in this thread? You've already made up your mind.

Yes, I don't know what to say to such a closed-minded fanboy. What's it to you? Why do you care if DR entertains some Wii owners?

I can not speak for anyone else but it is something to me because I loved Dead Rising so much and it was already in a tenuous position with some of it's design and game-play that made it not for the casual. I was already Dead Rising 2 would sacrifice to much to appease a great audience. If the Wii is where its headed the game I wanted to see is already gone.

Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." dr-venkman

The sad part it is it will fail to be a good Dead Rising game but all the gamers who are only good at light gun games because they fail at other controllers will make it a market success. Well, there are not enough of those, but there are plenty of people who have no clue and will just buy another zombie shooter.

Coyo7e

You absolutely don't know that. It's entirely baseless speculation. Capcom doesn't make bad games often.

Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." dr-venkman

I get slapped with a mod on a regular basis because, guess what, I violate the rules. Rather then cry about it just don't do it.

Every time I call someone an idiot I get the seven days sure thing. It happens when I just can't help myself and so I say it, knowing I will get a 7 day vacation.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." falconclan

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]The sad part it is it will fail to be a good Dead Rising game but all the gamers who are only good at light gun games because they fail at other controllers will make it a market success. Well, there are not enough of those, but there are plenty of people who have no clue and will just buy another zombie shooter.

mdisen

You absolutely don't know that. It's entirely baseless speculation. Capcom doesn't make bad games often.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." dr-venkman

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]The sad part it is it will fail to be a good Dead Rising game but all the gamers who are only good at light gun games because they fail at other controllers will make it a market success. Well, there are not enough of those, but there are plenty of people who have no clue and will just buy another zombie shooter.

mdisen

You absolutely don't know that. It's entirely baseless speculation. Capcom doesn't make bad games often.

It is not a question of bad or good but will the series expand on the basic things that made it great, or just become another zombie shooter. Forcing me to wait for someone else to tackle the vision of movies like "Dawn of the Dead" for video games.

I don't want to see Dead Rising go where the Wii is taking it. Trust me, I hope I am dead wrong, I truly do. But in the same week I find out about Dead Rising 2 which I was worried would never happen I find out about this port to the only system that will be a downgrade. I would have killed for a ps3 or 360 port, but the Wii?

A bitter sweet week.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." dr-venkman

You beat yourself down. It is obvious it got under your skin, too. Which I think is funny.

There's no way those two pics of the characters are from the Wii version... anyone else agree?gamerfreak13

CGI for the Wii looks like Ingame cutscenes for the 360 XD

[QUOTE="gamerfreak13"]There's no way those two pics of the characters are from the Wii version... anyone else agree?supermechakirby

CGI for the Wii looks like Ingame cutscenes for the 360 XD

I have to go off topic and ask.....

Who is that women in your sig?

It is not a question of bad or good but will the series expand on the basic things that made it great, or just become another zombie shooter. Forcing me to wait for someone else to tackle the vision of movies like "Dawn of the Dead" for video games.

I don't want to see Dead Rising go where the Wii is taking it. Trust me, I hope I am dead wrong, I truly do. But in the same week I find out about Dead Rising 2 which I was worried would never happen I find out about this port to the only system that will be a downgrade. I would have killed for a ps3 or 360 port, but the Wii?

A bitter sweet week.

Coyo7e

Then really the only problem here is your expectations. I don't think anyone really expects the Wii version to be the "next step" or some kind of evolution of the series. This is a spinoff in every sense of the word. It has no impact on Dead Rising for the Xbox360, it has no impact on the sequel, but it looks like fun none the less.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Oh great, fanboys are numbskulls. Report me to the mods more why don't you because I've insulted your opinion? "Ya, I'll report him. That'll prove my fanboy argument." Coyo7e

You beat yourself down. It is obvious it got under your skin, too. Which I think is funny.

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

It is not a question of bad or good but will the series expand on the basic things that made it great, or just become another zombie shooter. Forcing me to wait for someone else to tackle the vision of movies like "Dawn of the Dead" for video games.

I don't want to see Dead Rising go where the Wii is taking it. Trust me, I hope I am dead wrong, I truly do. But in the same week I find out about Dead Rising 2 which I was worried would never happen I find out about this port to the only system that will be a downgrade. I would have killed for a ps3 or 360 port, but the Wii?

A bitter sweet week.

mdisen

Then really the only problem here is your expectations. I don't think anyone really expects the Wii version to be the "next step" or some kind of evolution of the series. This is a spinoff in every sense of the word. It has no impact on Dead Rising for the Xbox360, it has no impact on the sequel, but it looks like fun none the less.

Well, I can see where you are coming from, can you see where some fans of the game like me are coming from? Why we are worried it will have an impact on the next Dead Rising? How we don't like where the game is heading on the Wii?

I don't want to see the game I love compromised to appeal to a larger audience, not even for a port.

Can everyone just hold off on the stupid rabid fanboyism until we see some of the Wii version's maintenance tunnel? If they screwed that up, then we have a problem. Otherwise, it looks like there are about enough zombies. Not as many as on 360, obviously, but enough. pis3rch