Wii Music - 6.5 at GS

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#201 MarloStanfield
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It's definately a bad game but the irony is that it scored around the same as big time exclusives like Socom, Too Human, Lair, haze etc

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#202 farnham
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I'm sorry, it's not very good.

Just because you keep endlesly posting about it doesn't make you right and every other reviewer wrong.

It's just not a good game.RuprechtMonkey

That would mean that the reviewer has a higher understanding on the game


But sentences like

It's hard to explain, but there's a certain joy that comes from waving the remote around in a carefree manner and hearing the music that plays as a result.Gamespot Review

do not give me the impression that he spend a lot of time, effort in understanding the crux of the review

sure its not as bias as the GS Zelda TP review where Giantbomb founder J. Gerstmann expressed hardware shortcommings on a game review.. (i thought it was a game review not a hardware review) but its just uninformed and does not show a lot of understanding.. I would prefer the blog post of Jeremy Parish over this review as a more substantiated opinion on the game.

Link:http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=5379721&bId=8919692

And i think you are missing my point. I have no interest to proove that this game is good. I will buy it when it comes out in europe and enjoy it when it is here.. I am lamenting the fact that one of the biggest review site just fails to think outside of the box.

It's definately a bad game but the irony is that it scored around the same as big time exclusives like Socom, Too Human, Lair, haze etc

MarloStanfield
Well a big difference would be that games like Socom, Too Human, Lair and Haze follow a set formular..Socom is a well known series.. it will be judged by other iterations.. Lair is basically a Rogue Squadron game with Dragon Skin.. Haze is a FPS game.. and Too human a game like PSO or Diablo II..
Wii Music however is hard to judge because its a very different formular then games like Rockband or Guitar hero.. And they failed to understand different formulars..They can bash it and make it a bad game.. but at least they should understand the concept fully and then say its bad..
I mean to me it sounds like.. Sixth Sense is a bad movie because it has ghosts in it. And ghosts dont exist.. Its nonsense
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#203 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"]It flopped, thank god. We can move on with our lives. I never liked this game. I don't know what Nintendo was ever thinking releasing this game. At least there are other titles to look forward to.Bread_or_Decide

I wonder how Wii Sports 2 will do.

Quite well I'm hoping. It actually looks pretty intriguing.

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#204 shaggygrosser
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GOTY contender
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#205 EddyPee
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I'm amazed at the amount of people who are scared of Wii Music, there's no much venom in this thread. Also, why are people saying it flopped? I wasn't aware it had hype - hell, this topic isn't even a sticky (unlike, say, for example, if I really had to say, ooooooh, Lair, Too Human, Haze).

I swear, the only people who really got excited about Wii Music were hardcore cows and lemmings, who were presumably trembling in fear at 't3h kiddy casual', running to their darkened basements to prepare for the death of gaming and set up a resistance against some sort of Nintendo-instigated gaming holocaust.

I think it's pretty good it got an ok review score - it still shows that it's still possible to just pick up a game and have fun, without needing flashy graphics or guns or tactics or 4 different difficulty levels.

Oh, and I almost forgot http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26557113

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#206 Bread_or_Decide
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I'm amazed at the amount of people who are scared of Wii Music, there's no much venom in this thread. Also, why are people saying it flopped? I wasn't aware it had hype - hell, this topic isn't even a sticky (unlike, say, for example, if I really had to say, ooooooh, Lair, Too Human, Haze).

I swear, the only people who really got excited about Wii Music were hardcore cows and lemmings, who were presumably trembling in fear at 't3h kiddy casual', running to their darkened basements to prepare for the death of gaming and set up a resistance against some sort of Nintendo-instigated gaming holocaust.

I think it's pretty good it got an ok review score - it still shows that it's still possible to just pick up a game and have fun, without needing flashy graphics or guns or tactics or 4 different difficulty levels.

Oh, and I almost forgot http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26557113

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or gameplay...or goals...or anything at all.

The Ultimate Casual game to me is Tetris. I don't think I knew a single mother who didn't play that game. Its all my mom ever played and she loved it. Notice that it was casual but also a real game. Yes a game can be both without being stupid and pandering like Wii Music which is nothing but a toy for toddlers.

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#207 Quofan
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I'm amazed at the amount of people who are scared of Wii Music, there's no much venom in this thread. Also, why are people saying it flopped? I wasn't aware it had hype - hell, this topic isn't even a sticky (unlike, say, for example, if I really had to say, ooooooh, Lair, Too Human, Haze).

I swear, the only people who really got excited about Wii Music were hardcore cows and lemmings, who were presumably trembling in fear at 't3h kiddy casual', running to their darkened basements to prepare for the death of gaming and set up a resistance against some sort of Nintendo-instigated gaming holocaust.

I think it's pretty good it got an ok review score - it still shows that it's still possible to just pick up a game and have fun, without needing flashy graphics or guns or tactics or 4 different difficulty levels.

Oh, and I almost forgot http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26557113

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I lol'd :lol:

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#208 aemena
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Rockband killer confirmedErik_Lensherr

I could be in sales! don't undestimate the power of the casuals!!!

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#209 farnham
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Im a nintendo sheep and i am very interested in Wii Music

and Im very confident that it will provide me a lot of joy contrary to the hatred and disbelief of the so called "hardcore" conservatives

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#210 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]I don't know what sadder, the people defending Wii music or the people thinking this score was too high :|Bread_or_Decide

I'm just glad it flopped big time so we can move on with our lives. Guitar Hero World Tour is one week away. Thats the music game to be watching. Custom Tool level FTW!

How did it flop? Nobody hyped it :|

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#211 surrealnumber5
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how did it flop????

for a folp there must be expectations like with SOCOM

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#212 michaelarran
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So has anyone (pro or con) in these couple of hundred posts actually played the game, or is this just armchair general time?

I agree with the comment about the venom. In my 34 years of gaming I have never seen such a violent reaction to a simple game. Perhaps you could use this energy to help get the world out of recession, or do something else useul.

Me, I have two young kids, and am intrigued by this new take on the music genre, so may buy it.

Take care

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#213 akif22
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a good score

high enough for the sheep to feel ok

low enough for the rest to not mind too much

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#214 Samurai_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="luigigreen"]It flopped, thank god. We can move on with our lives. I never liked this game. I don't know what Nintendo was ever thinking releasing this game. At least there are other titles to look forward to.nintendo-4life

I wonder how Wii Sports 2 will do.

Wii sports, if done right, could be an AAA title because it will be the first game to use the WMP.

but of course as part of the Wii series it will end up A IMO.

I doubt it. Not with games like playing frisbee with a dog. And that Jet Ski game seemed really broken.

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#215 AgentA-Mi6
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I'll play hardware and software Sales Figures, quality games have been a no since SSBB for the wii
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#217 thegoldenpoo
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I'll play hardware and software Sales Figures, quality games have been a no since SSBB for the wiiAgentA-Mi6

even that felt like a tired trudge through rehashville

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#218 samusarmada
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It's definately a bad game but the irony is that it scored around the same as big time exclusives like Socom, Too Human, Lair, haze etc

MarloStanfield

A 6 equates to "fair" or "average" as in the old system, certainly not bad.

Anyway, I guess this is a fairly nice score for all involved. It's not a bad enough score to be as bad as many assumed it would be but it's also not good enough for a massive nintendo retribution.

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#219 EddyPee
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[QUOTE="EddyPee"]

I'm amazed at the amount of people who are scared of Wii Music, there's no much venom in this thread. Also, why are people saying it flopped? I wasn't aware it had hype - hell, this topic isn't even a sticky (unlike, say, for example, if I really had to say, ooooooh, Lair, Too Human, Haze).

I swear, the only people who really got excited about Wii Music were hardcore cows and lemmings, who were presumably trembling in fear at 't3h kiddy casual', running to their darkened basements to prepare for the death of gaming and set up a resistance against some sort of Nintendo-instigated gaming holocaust.

I think it's pretty good it got an ok review score - it still shows that it's still possible to just pick up a game and have fun, without needing flashy graphics or guns or tactics or 4 different difficulty levels.

Oh, and I almost forgot http://uk.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=26557113

Bread_or_Decide

or gameplay...or goals...or anything at all.

The Ultimate Casual game to me is Tetris. I don't think I knew a single mother who didn't play that game. Its all my mom ever played and she loved it. Notice that it was casual but also a real game. Yes a game can be both without being stupid and pandering like Wii Music which is nothing but a toy for toddlers.

Just because anyone can play it doesn't mean it's a toy for toddlers. Occasionally we all want a time to relax and do something simple and easy, yet enjoyable and fulfilling; it's the seconds best feeling in the world (the best, of course, is drowsing in bed listening to other people have to get up and go to work, all the time knowing you can drowse indefinately n_n ). If you don't know what that feeling is, I pity you. And if you don't understand why people like that feeling, I pity you. We spend the first 30 years of our life trying to be older and the rest trying to be younger.

EDIT: I thought of something extra. Stupid and pandering like, say, Lair? When they sent out the reviewers guide after terrible reviews? When they expected players to be so taken in by the shiny graphics that they wouldn't notice that the dragon was going the WRONG BLOODY WAY?

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#220 loco145
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As good as socom.
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#221 InfinityMugen
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Reviews wont matter. It'll still dominate sales. Little effort huge pay off. I'm pretty sure we would all want to be in Nintendos shoes right about now. I know I would.
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#222 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

At least wii owners have a lot more great games coming out this Fall... Altough I can't think of a single one. Getting another game system was the best thing I did for my gaming this gen. I think if I had remained wii only I probably would'nt have continued gaming.

RuprechtMonkey

the Wii holiday season line up:

Animal crossing

Wii music

Guitar hero

Rock Band

Call of Duty

all of them are system sellers and i'm not getting any of them, at least not for Wii. Though i have to say Wiiware is having a great holiday thus far.

Ugh, I'm sorry but compared to the other two consoles that is an extremely weak line up.

weak? are you serious? Weak is a freaking complement! use a better word next time >_>
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#223 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"]

At least wii owners have a lot more great games coming out this Fall... Altough I can't think of a single one. Getting another game system was the best thing I did for my gaming this gen. I think if I had remained wii only I probably would'nt have continued gaming.

CreepyBacon

the Wii holiday season line up:

Animal crossing Agreed

Wii music Trash, anyone who buys a console for this needs there head checked.

Guitar hero Inferior to the 360/PS3

Rock Band Inferior.

Call of Duty Complete joke. :lol:

all of them are system sellers and i'm not getting any of them, at least not for Wii. Though i have to say Wiiware is having a great holiday thus far.

With that out the way, on to the topic:

Deserved lower, amazed it got what it did. He went easy on it big time.

GH is the exact same on all consoles :?
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#225 Ninja-Hippo
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Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?II-FBIsniper-II

Nay, it's for musicians to create! :P

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#226 Yodas_Boy
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Should have been lower.
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#227 789shadow
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Discuss.

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Nice sig.

Thanks.:)

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#228 SMR-Venom
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Lyphe2k"]Woooooowww so by GS's standard-- Wii Music = Socomlocopatho

lmao! and I shall be using that argument in the other thread. just to twist the knife in a little further.

Too cruel man, have a heart :P

Rofl! :lol: I could almost imagine the Socom fans dieing inside :P

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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Way too high of a score. 6.5 should be reserved for games that actually have structure and a purpose. Zhengi

While lower scores should be reserved for games like Too Human, Haze, and Lair ;)

And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.
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#230 skinny_man_69
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Wow really? That game came out? Seemed like a doomed failure right from the start to me
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#231 thegoldenpoo
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Way too high of a score. 6.5 should be reserved for games that actually have structure and a purpose. Stevo_the_gamer

While lower scores should be reserved for games like Too Human, Haze, and Lair ;)

And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.

owch, statisrics hurt

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#233 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Way too high of a score. 6.5 should be reserved for games that actually have structure and a purpose. Stevo_the_gamer

While lower scores should be reserved for games like Too Human, Haze, and Lair ;)

And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.

So it should along with 65.49% of the PS2's library :)

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#234 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]Way too high of a score. 6.5 should be reserved for games that actually have structure and a purpose. Zhengi

While lower scores should be reserved for games like Too Human, Haze, and Lair ;)

And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.

So it should along with 65.49% of the PS2's library :)

What? I surely hope you mean 27.9% :|
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#235 Impurekind
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I really don't think the game is as bad as all these more 'core' reviewers are making out. I mean comparitively Electroplankton is similar, in that it's just a musical toy that you can't do much with other than mess around with every now and then, but it's not a bad game in any way. It's just something that some people will have fun with and others will not. Much like any musical toy.
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#236 MarloStanfield
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And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.Stevo_the_gamer

and yet the Wii has been caning the 360 in exclusives this year

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#237 TAKE_IT_BACK
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Not a surprise, though I hoped for a 7.0, because it would have been funny.
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#238 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]And also should be reserved for 41.64% of the Wii's library.MarloStanfield

and yet the Wii has been caning the 360 in exclusives this year

Oh, how about you compare what games the Xbox 360 received this year that the Wii didn't. Since you're so adamant on singling out the Xbox 360 and Wii.
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#239 mdisen2
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I really don't think the game is as bad as all these more 'core' reviewers are making out. I mean comparitively Electroplankton is similar, in that it's just a musical toy that you can't do much with other than mess around with every now and then, but it's not a bad game in any way. It's just something that some people will have fun with and others will not. Much like any musical toy.Impurekind

The difference is Wii Music is mass market, popular. Electroplankton is niche.

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#240 beerm_basic
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Not a surprise, though I hoped for a 7.0, because it would have been funny.TAKE_IT_BACK

haha having wii music score higher then socom would have been too much :)

was expecting this to get 4.0 or so. They described it as shallow, easy, not enough game modes etc yet it still scored a 6.5 what the...

nearly everyone on SW saw a low score coming for this game thou so didnt really surprise anyone

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#241 MarloStanfield
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Oh, how about you compare what games the Xbox 360 received this year that the Wii didn't. Since you're so adamant on singling out the Xbox 360 and Wii. Stevo_the_gamer

I'm not singling out anything, I'm just pointing out that the Wii got much better exclusives than the 360 this and this will continue next year

you're very defensive aren't you?

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Oh, how about you compare what games the Xbox 360 received this year that the Wii didn't. Since you're so adamant on singling out the Xbox 360 and Wii. MarloStanfield

I'm not singling out anything, I'm just pointing out that the Wii got much better exclusives than the 360 this and this will continue next year

you're very defensive aren't you?

Why single out the Xbox 360 then? Why not the PS3? PC? Eh, lad? Oh that's right -- because you DID single out the Xbox 360.

Presenting a point -- means I'm "very defensive"? Interesting.

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#243 MarloStanfield
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Why single out the Xbox 360 then? Why not the PS3? PC? Eh, lad? Oh that's right -- because you DID single out the Xbox 360. Stevo_the_gamer

Becuse you have marcus fenix, master chief and wrex in your sig. It's even more applicable to the PS3, exclusives are a rarity on both consoles these days, never mind quality ones.

Presenting a point -- means I'm "very defensive"? Interesting.

Stevo_the_gamer

You're definately sensitive to criticism of the 360 and overrated titles like mass effect. Relax fella, they're only videogames

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#244 Willy105
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Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?II-FBIsniper-II

They haven't.

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#245 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?Willy105

They haven't.

sorry willy all games are toys to me the diff between a remote car and a viedo game is margina. i love games but they are toys gamespot has always reviewed toys at least the way i see it

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#246 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?Willy105

They haven't.

based on this definition:

"something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious pratical use." -Dictionary.com

...I'd say the Wii is a toy. The 360 and PS3 can be used for pracitcal purposes (movies, video conferencing, talking with friends as a quasi-phone, etc.)

Wii is impractical for most things other than gaming. One could, therefore, argue that the Wii is a toy. or more toy than anything else.

also using that definition, it's fair to say that all games (except maybe brain exercise games) are toys. played on a quasi-toy.

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#247 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?Dreams-Visions

They haven't.

based on this definition:

"something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious pratical use." -Dictionary.com

...I'd say the Wii is a toy. The 360 and PS3 can be used for pracitcal purposes (movies, video conferencing, talking with friends as a quasi-phone, etc.)

Wii is impractical for most things other than gaming. One could, therefore, argue that the Wii is a toy. or more toy than anything else.

except for watching movies and playing games, arent the others features of the ps3 and 360 impractical as well?

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#248 Willy105
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[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?Dreams-Visions

They haven't.

based on this definition:

"something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious pratical use." -Dictionary.com

...I'd say the Wii is a toy. The 360 and PS3 can be used for pracitcal purposes (movies, video conferencing, talking with friends as a quasi-phone, etc.)

Wii is impractical for most things other than gaming. One could, therefore, argue that the Wii is a toy. or more toy than anything else.

also using that definition, it's fair to say that all games (except maybe brain exercise games) are toys. played on a quasi-toy.

I am saying that on the standards of the poster I quoted.

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#249 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Since when did gaming websites begin reviewing toys?ogvampire

They haven't.

based on this definition:

"something that serves for or as if for diversion, rather than for serious pratical use." -Dictionary.com

...I'd say the Wii is a toy. The 360 and PS3 can be used for pracitcal purposes (movies, video conferencing, talking with friends as a quasi-phone, etc.)

Wii is impractical for most things other than gaming. One could, therefore, argue that the Wii is a toy. or more toy than anything else.

except for watching movies and playing games, arent the others features of the ps3 and 360 impractical as well?

No. for a period of time, I used my PS3 exclusively as a Blu-ray player. and my 360 as an HD-DVD player. and a quasi-phone to talk to my little brother in a different state.
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#250 farnham
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Many of you guys dont seem to understand

Wii music is actually a very very hardcore music game..

The guy reviewing it just did not understand the concept of it

Look at this video as it explains what Wii music is all about


http://wiifolder.com/?p=120