Wii reminds me of the crash of '83

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

I don't think so, as Wii has shown that there is an applicable market for the product. It also offers some great "hardcore" games (I hate that word).

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Conjuration

Havn't noticed any decline with the Wii yet, so I doubt it.

I was 3 years old back in that year, so I don't really remember but it's kinda ironic how the saviour back then is doing this crap right now ;)

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I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

ComboTroop

[QUOTE="ComboTroop"][QUOTE="Conjuration"]

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Sonic_on_crack

[QUOTE="ComboTroop"][QUOTE="Conjuration"]

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Sonic_on_crack

Sadly, you fail. This is nothing like the crash of 83' everything the Wii has to offer is selling like hot cakes. TechGuru89

? It was huge sales of crap games that killed the industry.
ET the extraterrestrial is probably the most famous case of that.

The Wii's shovelware rarely sells well unless it has advertising, hype, or had a similar name/boxart to a successful game. Most of the Wii's million sellers are quality titles, and most shovelware does not sell well. The issue with the crash was that there was less competition around, and video games had not yet really kicked off that well. Today the gaming business, like most entertainment, is more or less fail proof even in tough times because people want to escape.

The only major difference now is that there is still a healthy indie and core market throughout the entire industry.

[QUOTE="TechGuru89"]Sadly, you fail. This is nothing like the crash of 83' everything the Wii has to offer is selling like hot cakes. Conjuration

? It was huge sales of crap games that killed the industry.
ET the extraterrestrial is probably the most famous case of that.

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[QUOTE="TechGuru89"]Sadly, you fail. This is nothing like the crash of 83' everything the Wii has to offer is selling like hot cakes. TechGuru89

? It was huge sales of crap games that killed the industry.
ET the extraterrestrial is probably the most famous case of that.

To my understanding the big difference between this time and back then is that gaming is way more pupular now than how it was back then... it was a crysis because with a market full of crap, the few gamers back then began to lose interest.

Now, gaming fanbase is way more solid and not even the Wii is going to do any harms to it.

But the premise of being full of crap still applies to the Wii... not every game that's granted, but the vast majority is crap.

[QUOTE="TechGuru89"]Sadly, you fail. This is nothing like the crash of 83' everything the Wii has to offer is selling like hot cakes. Conjuration

? It was huge sales of crap games that killed the industry.
ET the extraterrestrial is probably the most famous case of that.

actually, thats not really the reason. games actually DIDNT sell. there were a few reasons, but the main one was market over-saturation. from Wiki:

"There were several reasons for the crash, but the main cause was oversaturation of the market with dozens of consoles and hundreds of mostly low-quality games. Hundreds of games were in development for the 1983 release alone, and this overproduction resulted in a saturated market without the consumer interest it needed"

there were alot of low quality games being released, but they were not selling.

A year and a half ago I would have said yes, but within the past couple months and it getting a lot of third party support that is not shovelware I would say no. I think party games are dying out on the Wii compared to the first year it was out.

360 and PS3 have shown that there are enough hardcore gamers to sustain the industry. Even if the Wii scares off casuals, all of us serious gamers will continue to know how to sort through the crap and get to the good stuff.

Gaming is blowing up, and with that comes some negative effects, but I hardly think the Wii is killing gaming. Nintendo basically needed a new angle, and totally went a different route than the other 2. They are giving people stuff like Wii Fit, Rapala Fishing, Wii Sports... how much crossover do you think there is between Cooking Mama and Killzone 2. Like... .0008%? Those people were never going to buy Empire: Total War. My buddies that only play shooters and sports games aren't going to try out some Wii minigame junk and decide they hate gaming.

The shovelware just feeds developers coin purses so they can focus on their vanity projects, stuff that taxes their creative limits and their hardware limitations. I know this for a fact. Why do you think BioWare made a DS Sonic game?

Also worth considering is the vast wealth of information we have available to us these days, and not just in the form of official Nintendo Power magazines and such. If a game sucks, someone will leak a blog about it. There is just no way to slip junk by people as easily as they used to.

The difference this time is that the people buying the industry-crashing shovelware can't tell that the games they're buying are steaming buckets of elephant piss,therefore making a mass loss of confidence impossible.

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I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Sonic_on_crack

man , if this was the crash ps3 sure wouldnt be here thats for sure nor would any thing else, so no the wii ps3 or the 360 are far from crashing

sure the wii has a good line up and lead , but the 360 and ps3 have their own titles, gosh people think just because it doenst have a mountain full of first person shooters, that it is a crash ,lol.

tc you fail ,

because a crash is where everything not just one product comes to an end,

wii has sold 360 2 to 1 and ps3s 2 1/3 to 1 ,

wii has sold over 49 million

360-28 million

and ps3 22 million

so ya, wii has been out selling ps3 and 360 since its launch , in 06

and wii has over 20 GAMES THAT SOLD OVER 1MILLION PLUS

the wii has more games then ps3 and 360 combined

do you know what really happened in the crash obviously you do not,

heres what happened

atari kept releasing the same type of game , back to back , every one lost interist in gaming because the lack of variety,

they were sick of playing the same type of games , so what happened is the games /consoles stop selling,

the wii is doing quite the opposite

they offer variety in games

not the same game everytime ,

now ps3 and 360 is becoming questionable,

look how many first person shooters it has, !

and yet wii is the crash of 83 lol i dont think so ,

I'm pretty sure that in the crash of '83 there weren't a strong pulse of quality games to blot out the shovelware.

Why do we talk about casual/shoverlware so much here if this forum is so hardcore? dont even relate it to salesbecause cows/lemmings absoloutely despise sales, according to them anyway. I mean the Wii even has some good core games released which could be talked about but people prefer to talk about shoverlware instead.

2005 - Gimmick

2006 - Mini game fest

2007 - Casual

2008 - Shovelware

2009 - Video game crash

I wonder what its going to be next year.

The wii is too expensive to develop for for something like that to happen.

PS2 was the king of shovelware, so your comparison fails.dr-venkman

PS2 had a much more healthy ratio of high quality games to low quality games. It didn't really have that much shovelware. For shovelware see the PS1.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]PS2 was the king of shovelware, so your comparison fails.hakanakumono

PS2 had a much more healthy ratio of high quality games to low quality games. It didn't really have that much shovelware. For shovelware see the PS1.

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Conjuration

Wii has some core game that make it a healthy system in the future.

[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"] um RE5 just moved past 4 million copies , high Quality game with amazing salesSonic_on_crack

No, Capcom shipped 4 million copies. The actual sales are unknown.

Yes, the Wii is the bane of all human existence. It has caused the world economy to crash since its lameness forced all the banks to put their money into its Wii-ness and this was a terrible idea as all the banks are failing. The Wii is also ultra lame cause it attracts comets from space and one is spiraling towards the earth right now thanks to that little white box. All the demons and the devils of the 9th level of purgatory will rise from a crack of the earth's core and devour all the children, puppies, kittens, mice, and everything nice.Zhengi

I wish just once, one of these threads would make a good point instead of the same wrong argument everytime. Someone make an "HD is killing gaming thread". It may be incorrect but we might actually get a worthwhile debate out of it.

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

The industry is too large to crash. The only way I can see this happening is if things become stagnant. Graphics get to a point were they can't get any better and companies run out of revolutionary ideas to mix up and change gameplay. Of course this will never happen as technology and new ideals keep getting introduced into the world at a rapid rate.

I'm sure you're familiar with the video game industry crash of 1983.

Basically the market got flooded with so many crappy games that it choked itself out. Consumers lost confidence to the point where they just stopped buying the product.

The Wii seems to be heading down that path in a hurry.

The Wii's huge success could potentially translate into a massive downfall.

Does anyone else think this is totally possible based on the current state of Wii software?

Conjuration

Umm...the crash of '83 was mainly Atari's fault and the fault of way too many Arcade machines being made...oversupply. When people grew bored of Atari 2600 games, Atari still made really terrible business decisions. E.T. sure didn't help the situation. More cartridges were made than there were Atari 2600s in existence. That is the type of stuff Atari did. Really popular arcade games at the time like Pac-Man were made into the worst version imaginable on Atari 2600. People were getting fed up and bored of using one stick with one button. Atari wasn't willing to change. And with a bunch of games on store shelves not selling, 2600 games soon plummeted (some new games even sold at a dollar or less). People overestimated Arcades and thought they'd remain just as popular as ever. It was soon discovered though that there were just too many machines on the market. And they were expensive to manufacture. Those 2 things are what mainly cause the crash...Atari and Arcades.

No company is nearly as stupid now as back then. There might be a tiny crash eventually, but never as big as 83. Why single out Wii? Why not say "PS2 sold 120 million...oh noez! A crash may happen." See how silly it sounds?

I'm pretty sure that in the crash of '83 there weren't a strong pulse of quality games to blot out the shovelware.

TAKE_IT_BACK

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]I'm pretty sure that in the crash of '83 there weren't a strong pulse of quality games to blot out the shovelware. Steppy_76

It was nothing in comparisson with today.

The '83 videogame crash is just a myth gaming is pretty much alive during that time... It was just the crash/downfall of Atari not Gaming.raskullibur