Wii U has twice as many top-rated exclusive games as PS4 and Xbox One combined

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#51  Edited By Heil68
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@iandizion713 said:

@Heil68: Just let us keep Deus Ex, and give us Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dark Souls 3, yall can keep the rest of the third party.

I would be sad without Mass Effect, GTA, Madden, Witcher, Cyberpunk, Mirrors Edge, Red Dead, ect...but to each his own.

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#52  Edited By iandizion713
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@Pedro: If Wii U or Virtual Boy cant sink Nintendo, nothing can.

@Heil68 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Heil68: Just let us keep Deus Ex, and give us Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dark Souls 3, yall can keep the rest of the third party.

I would be sad without Mass Effect, GTA, Madden, Witcher, Cyberpunk, Mirrors Edge, Red Dead, ect...but to each his own.

True, cause i sure wouldnt be sad. Unless of course its Half-Life, that would make me cry.

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#53  Edited By Planeforger
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The WiiU doesn't have the best overall library. That title obviously goes to the PC.

Even so, these numbers show that the WiiU is the best secondary system that your money could buy.

If you have a gaming PC, there's no point in buying a PS4 or an Xbox One. If you have an Xbox One, there's no point in buying a PS4, and vice versa. If you have any platform though, you're always better backing it up with the Wii U's robust exclusive library.

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#54 StrongBlackVine
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I actually pity any one that only plays Nintendo exclusives. What pathetically narrow slice of what is available out there.

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#55 LegatoSkyheart
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Only fools care about what system beats another. Gamers worth their salt should own both systems. That's the problem here, from what I've read, most so-called gamers here don't own a Wii U. If they don't love games, what are they doing?

With that logic you're not a gamer if you only own one System. Which is a completely false statement to make considering many people have different budgets and preferences.

Not everyone loves Zelda, Not everyone loves Pokemon, hell if you asked someone to get a PS4 because of Bloodborne they may not even like the Souls games. They could just want Gears or Halo and they're perfectly fine with that or they just LOVE what Sony has provided with the Vita.

You don't need to own a WiiU to love Games and you definitely don't need a WiiU to love Nintendo either.

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#56 deactivated-57de35bf0f08e
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@beastmodeboy said:

Only fools care about what system beats another. Gamers worth their salt should own both systems. That's the problem here, from what I've read, most so-called gamers here don't own a Wii U. If they don't love games, what are they doing?

With that logic you're not a gamer if you only own one System. Which is a completely false statement to make considering many people have different budgets and preferences.

Not everyone loves Zelda, Not everyone loves Pokemon, hell if you asked someone to get a PS4 because of Bloodborne they may not even like the Souls games. They could just want Gears or Halo and they're perfectly fine with that or they just LOVE what Sony has provided with the Vita.

You don't need to own a WiiU to love Games and you definitely don't need a WiiU to love Nintendo either.

You don't need to own a PS4 or some over rated multiplatform trash either...

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#57 LegatoSkyheart
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@beastmodeboy said:

You don't need to own a PS4 or some over rated multiplatform trash either...

No, but that's completely off the mark of what you just said. Apparently you can't absolutely be a gamer unless you have a Nintendo system which in itself is COMPLETELY false. You can own a PS4 and just play the Exclusives too you know.

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#58 deactivated-57de35bf0f08e
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@beastmodeboy said:

You don't need to own a PS4 or some over rated multiplatform trash either...

No, but that's completely off the mark of what you just said. Apparently you can't absolutely be a gamer unless you have a Nintendo system which in itself is COMPLETELY false. You can own a PS4 and just play the Exclusives too you know.

I never said that cow, basically I said a legit gamer owns more than a single system who spends all their time on message boards defending it.

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#59 LegatoSkyheart
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@beastmodeboy said:

I never said that cow, basically I said a legit gamer owns more than a single system who spends all their time on message boards defending it.

I knew the Cow comment will show up cause I'm bringing PS4 here for the sake of the argument. You're pretty much exposing yourself considering I was just playing Pokken Tournament like but a few moments ago. Not to mention that I have been playing a ton of Fire Emblem Fates and went out and bought Twilight Princess HD day 1 with the Amiibo which I have tons of. Yeah sure Cow Status confirmed.

You definition of a "Legit gamer" is out of proportion and can't be any further from the truth. It's also funny that you would say stuff like this while also posting on a message board defending a system which only has Exclusives to rely on.

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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@beastmodeboy said:

I never said that cow, basically I said a legit gamer owns more than a single system who spends all their time on message boards defending it.

I knew the Cow comment will show up cause I'm bringing PS4 here for the sake of the argument. You're pretty much exposing yourself considering I was just playing Pokken Tournament like but a few moments ago. Not to mention that I have been playing a ton of Fire Emblem Fates and went out and bought Twilight Princess HD day 1 with the Amiibo which I have tons of. Yeah sure Cow Status confirmed.

You definition of a "Legit gamer" is out of proportion and can't be any further from the truth. It's also funny that you would say stuff like this while also posting on a message board defending a system which only has Exclusives to rely on.

I have all that stuff too cow. That doesn't make you special, cupcake.

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#61  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@beastmodeboy said:

I have all that stuff too cow. That doesn't make you special, cupcake.

Mad cause you can't make a legit argument or back up your statements. Congratulations.

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#62  Edited By deactivated-57de35bf0f08e
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@beastmodeboy said:

I have all that stuff too cow. That doesn't make you special, cupcake.

Mad cause you can't make a legit argument or back up your statements. Congratulations.

Why would I want to discuss anything with someone who talks like he's insecure and takes comments all out of proportion? Now shoo.

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#63  Edited By AzatiS
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Sheep you never learn ...

I would choose Witcher 3 , Bloodborne AND MGS5 over all Wii U exclusives combined.

And dont start the usual 3rd parties dont count because if you do that ill say nor all exclusives count since theres not 1 in a million for a gamer to like all of them. Wii U missing every single AAA caliber 3rd party game there is .. so what if it has 2 or 3 more exclusives ?

Bottom line ? PS4/X1/Pc continue with strong titles in 2016 and will continue for 2017 , 2018 and beyond ... when after 2016 there wont be Wii U anymore. So in the end of this generation , do the comparison again.

Also Wii U having LESS games than PS VITA in total , lol ...

Also Wii U having in total 55 aaa/aa games ( 7AAA / 48AA ) in total when PS4 has 128 games ( 14AAA / 114AA ). Imagine the difference in a few months , in a year , in 2 years , by the end of generation. Come on now , dont do this to yourselfs Sheep.

And thats all folks. Go to sleep.

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#64  Edited By iandizion713
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@AzatiS: Mate you never learn, id choose Kirby over all youve listed. Why dont you play what you like and let Nintendo fans play what they like. You act like Nintendo fans have never played a game other then Nintendo.

You said 2015 was the end of Wii U last year, now its 2016? Come on mate, just give up. Let that hate go.

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#65  Edited By lamprey263
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That's what they excel in, however they're completely lacking in third party content. I personally don't hold it against them though. I get a Nintendo console for its first party content and only that and I'm totally okay with that. I'm going to get a Xbox One and PS4 to enjoy that mountain f third party games and system specific console exclusives that Nintendo systems won't.

Not to give Nintendo too much credit though, they delivered some good games while I was supporting it but since the end of 2014 I've been pretty underwhelmed with the line-up. Seems like they're just coasting off the critical praise they got that year and riding on it until the NX launches.

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#66 Liquid_
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@wiiboxstation said:

@Liquid_: Yes it's been out a year longer.

It also is doubling 2 consoles.

PS4 is only one console

Xbox is sandpaper

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#67 AzatiS
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@Pedro said:

The WiiU is not an all round gaming experience and because of that the general gaming populace don't care. Splatoon is the only new thing on a Nintendo console while everything else is a rehash of a previous games. While the other systems have their share of rehashes they offer far more options in gaming than the WiiU ever will. The NX is not going to change that and it will be interesting to see how their console gaming division sinks or floats in the coming years.

Get ready your flame sheild for being that blantly honest ! Sheep cant handle facts and truths.

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#68  Edited By AzatiS
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@AzatiS: Mate you never learn, id choose Kirby over all youve listed. Why dont you play what you like and let Nintendo fans play what they like. You act like Nintendo fans have never played a game other then Nintendo.

You said 2015 was the end of Wii U last year, now its 2016? Come on mate, just give up. Let that hate go.

Choose what you like its ok. The fact remains . PS4 has more AAA games to choose from , more AA games to choose from , far bigger library , will go strong in 2016 , will continue go strong in 2017 and beyond when Wii U will be in graveyard and thats all !

Wii U is in a serious life support already , except if you dont want to admit it. Now officially dead will be with NX arrival. I wonder .. how much dust Wii Us around the world collecting as we speak. What all those Wii U owners playing daily ?

Hate ? Being realistic , talk facts and all is hate ? Im in a topic that sheep dissing other systems when Wii U is almost dead , can you even imagine how funny this is ? Dont get salty , accept Wii Us fate like a man and move on. Its not my fault it ended up another failure nor that its library is way more limited than PS VITA ...

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#69  Edited By iandizion713
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@AzatiS: Yeah well, good luck with all that. I cant stand oversaturation. Its my main complaint with Steam and Indie games. Just hop on Miiverse and you can see all the Nintendo fans having fun. Currently a bunch are enjoying Pokken Tournament, our latest AAAE game for Wii U. You should try it out, its fun, youd love it. Nintendo is awesome and offers the demo too so you can try before you buy.

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#70  Edited By AzatiS
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@AzatiS: Yeah well, good luck with all that. I cant stand oversaturation. Its my main complaint with Steam and Indie games. Just hop on Miiverse and you can see all the Nintendo fans having fun. Currently a bunch are enjoying Pokken Tournament, our latest AAAE game for Wii U. You should try it out, its fun, youd love it. Nintendo is awesome and offers the demo.

What do you mean oversaturation . Im coming in a topic that dissing all other systems , bypassing all Wii U problems and try to reverse Wii Us situation. And when im answering to that with actually facts , not opinions or made up numbers ,im the hater ... How the heck im the hater and you guys that made this posts are legit , i dont get it.

And you bypassing everything i said , calling facts oversaturation and trying desperatly to make me salty by saying Pokken Tournament is AAAE. Well try harder , i go with metacritic/gamerankings for over a decade. If you think Pokken is AAAE then im Batman , as i said before , and problem solved.

Oh , and welcome to my sheep list that going with Gamespot score and not metacritic when it fits your argument. The time is coming !! lolol

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@AzatiS: If you don't like gamespot scores why do you post here?

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#72  Edited By iandizion713
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@AzatiS: Whoa mate, first off, this thread is about how Wii U has more top rated exclusives. This is fact as backed up by the TC. If you dispute their claims then you are welcome to show where they are wrong. But as of right now, the topic is correct, Wii U has more higher rated exclusives then Xbox and PS4.

But for real, you should try out Pokken, its fun. Just get a hold of the demo and use Gengar, since hes the best.

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#73 ConanTheStoner
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Yep. Best exclusives and weakest overall library.

Works for me since all consoles are in side bitch territory and the WiiU happens to fill that role best.

But for someone who just wants to buy a single system to game on, the WiiU is a bust.

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#74 drummerdave9099
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No doubt it's got some great games.

But it also has very few 3rd party games

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#75  Edited By Bigboi500
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If you're all about top quality games, you should be all about the Wii U.

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#76 PikachuDude860
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@Heil68 said:
@iandizion713 said:

@Heil68: You can keep them. Take Watchdogs back with yall while yall at it. Not sure what yall see in that game.

Well we cant go by our own opinions that would be bias, so we need GS to decide.

Third Party games win again.

B-b-but....You can get those 3rd party games on PC......

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@Bigboi500 said:

If you're all about top quality games, you should be all about the Wii U.

One can also say if you all about playing the same games you have been playing for the past 2 decades the WiiU is the system for you. :D

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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

If you're all about top quality games, you should be all about the Wii U.

One can also say if you all about playing the same games you have been playing for the past 2 decades the WiiU is the system for you. :D

That line of thinking will backfire on you, because Wii U puts out fresh games like Splatoon, while the competition puts out mostly annual rehashes.

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#79  Edited By mark1974
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All the best games have been multiplat minus Nintendo. Nintendo games have not been better than multiplats. Nintendo needs to get it together.

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#80 Pedro
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@Bigboi500 said:

That line of thinking will backfire on you, because Wii U puts out fresh games like Splatoon, while the competition puts out mostly annual rehashes.

Oh yes Splatoon the first original IP since the GC, thats like 13+ years ago. I guess in your mind waiting 13 years for Nintendo to release a new game is worth the wait, I on the other hand will enjoy the numerous new IPs on the other platforms. BTW its fresh game not games. :)

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That reminds me that we should have a stickied thread in SW listing every AA and AAA EXCLUSIVE for all 3 current gen consoles. And list the PC AA and AAA EXCLUIVES as well for this gen.

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#82  Edited By iandizion713
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@Pedro: Dont forget Boxboy! Nintendo's studios have created a bunch of fresh IPs. That stat about no fresh IP since Gamecube is false. They are just talking about Nintendo's main studio. Nintendo has Rhythm Heaven series, Tomodachi Life, Day of Disaster, Pushmo, Crashmo, Art Academy, Geist, all come after Animal Crossing.

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#83  Edited By Bigboi500
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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

That line of thinking will backfire on you, because Wii U puts out fresh games like Splatoon, while the competition puts out mostly annual rehashes.

Oh yes Splatoon the first original IP since the GC, thats like 13+ years ago. I guess in your mind waiting 13 years for Nintendo to release a new game is worth the wait, I on the other hand will enjoy the numerous new IPs on the other platforms. BTW its fresh game not games. :)

There's also stuff like Sakura Samurai and Pushmo. I, too will be enjoying those new IPs on different systems because I don't get hung up on name brands like you do. I just enjoy games... on all systems. How 'bout them apples?

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#84 Pedro
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@Bigboi500 said:

There's also stuff like Sakura Samurai and Pushmo. I, too will be enjoying those new IPs on different systems because I don't get hung up on name brands like you do. I just enjoy games... on all systems. How 'bout them apples?

Haha. I call it like it is but you are trying to play the pretend game. Lets pretend that Nintendo is diversified. Lets pretend that Nintendo brings new IPs to the table. Lets pretend that Nintendo is somewhat relevant. You can enjoy their games but their system is severely lacking anything outside of the same old games.

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#85  Edited By iandizion713
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@Pedro: Lets pretend like Nintendo dont have 50+ awesome IPs to cater to fans with. I want another Balloon Kid game, another Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland, another Sin & Punishment game, and many more.

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#86 Bigboi500
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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

There's also stuff like Sakura Samurai and Pushmo. I, too will be enjoying those new IPs on different systems because I don't get hung up on name brands like you do. I just enjoy games... on all systems. How 'bout them apples?

Haha. I call it like it is but you are trying to play the pretend game. Lets pretend that Nintendo is diversified. Lets pretend that Nintendo brings new IPs to the table. Lets pretend that Nintendo is somewhat relevant. You can enjoy their games but their system is severely lacking anything outside of the same old games.

I call it like it REALLY IS because I own all systems this gen. Do you? Also, let's not pretend that Nintendo doesn't have the most high scoring exclusives this gen, just like the thread title says. You can enjoy Sony and Microsoft low caliber exclusives, well, the few they have, anyway. Keep hiding behind second rate console multiplats tho.

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@pikachudude860: too bad most of the exclusives are cartoony platformers. I'll give nintendo credit for more diversity though this gen than wii. Devils third, Bayonetta 2, fatal frame v and xenoblade chronicles x (while not all hit the mark, not saying they're all amazing) is definitely a nice step in the right direction and a break from their usual cute, cartoony platformer titles.

With that said, 40 exclusive titles but I think I own maybe 7 or 8 of them. A lot of them are low budget, corny, or just plain shitty games. Kirby and the rainbow curse, Mario vs donkey kong tipping stars, mario party 10 and mario tennis ultra smash.

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#88 so_hai
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This is why appealing to Nintendo to make a 'normal' console is incoherent. They know exactly what software works with any of their consoles.

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#89  Edited By Pedro
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@Bigboi500 said:

I call it like it REALLY IS because I own all systems this gen. Do you? Also, let's not pretend that Nintendo doesn't have the most high scoring exclusives this gen, just like the thread title says. You can enjoy Sony and Microsoft low caliber exclusives, well, the few they have, anyway. Keep hiding behind second rate console multiplats tho.

Yes I do own all three systems. What does that prove? The fact of the matter that these exclusives that you speak of is not moving units and the general gaming population care less about the WiiU than the PS4 and the Xbox. If the WiiU game were so awesome as the scores and the few on the forum would like to believe then the WiiU would not be irrelevant to the vast majority of developers and gamers as a whole. Nintendo currently has no other choice but to support their system with the limited selection of heavily recycled games. They have been doing a good job rehashing 2 Zelda games to satiate the fans and it worked like a charm. So, continue pretending that Nintendo and what it contributes matters to gaming. Can they change this? Yes. Would they? Most likely not.

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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

That line of thinking will backfire on you, because Wii U puts out fresh games like Splatoon, while the competition puts out mostly annual rehashes.

Oh yes Splatoon the first original IP since the GC, thats like 13+ years ago.

That's objectively false.

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#91 Bigboi500
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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

I call it like it REALLY IS because I own all systems this gen. Do you? Also, let's not pretend that Nintendo doesn't have the most high scoring exclusives this gen, just like the thread title says. You can enjoy Sony and Microsoft low caliber exclusives, well, the few they have, anyway. Keep hiding behind second rate console multiplats tho.

Yes I do own all three systems. What does that prove? The fact of the matter that these exclusives that you speak of is not moving units and the general gaming population care less about the WiiU than the PS4 and the Xbox. If the WiiU game were so awesome as the scores and the few on the forum would like to believe then the WiiU would not be irrelevant to the vast majority of developers and gamers as a whole. Nintendo currently has no other choice but to support their system with the limited selection of heavily recycled games. They have been doing a good job rehashing 2 Zelda games to satiate the fans and it worked like a charm. So, continue pretending that Nintendo and what it contributes matters to gaming. Can they change this? Yes. Would they? Most likely not.

Weak damage control on your part. The thread is about exclusives, not sales. Why be a fanboy about it? Why not be positive and acknowledge this about the system you allegedly own?

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#92  Edited By emgesp
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The mainstream gamer could give two Shi*s about that. The Wii U could have 100 top rated exclusives, but if they only appeal to Nintendo fans then its irrelevant to even bring up. The average gamer would rather play COD 10 than Mario 50.


@pikachudude860 said:

What will Sony and MS do if Nintendo ever get's strong 3rd party support?

If they have "decent" exclusives, what else do they have to fall on? This is serious.

Gamecube had decent third party support and look how that turned out.

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@Bigboi500 said:

Weak damage control on your part. The thread is about exclusives, not sales. Why be a fanboy about it? Why not be positive and acknowledge this about the system you allegedly own?

Damage control? What am I damage controlling exactly sir? I stated that their exclusives no significance to the gaming populace and that is demonstrated by the current position the WiiU is in. No one is changing the fact that his has the most exclusive but these exclusives are irrelevant as demonstrated again by the gaming community reception to the system. I don't have to share the same positive and arguably blinded point of view that you have. You can develop a relationship with companies if its makes you feel happy but not because I bought a companies product makes me remotely obligated to defend or like them as an entity.

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@froidnite said:

All this proves is that out in the real world, only thing that matters is the games a system can play. People don't give a shit if it's exclusive or multi-plat. And WiiU looses big time in that department.

.....and this is the spot on gist of it.

So what? Exclusives only extend to bragging rights and self-validation to fanboys desperate to convince themselves of a reality they don't otherwise wish to acknowledge. Generally, people off of dedicated forums DON'T care if it's exclusive or multi-plat. What good does this do Nintendo when, in light of these accolades, their console business continues to shrink? Nintendo and their fans can continue to toot their horns (even though this is an entirely subjective criteria), but reality marches on, and that reality isn't looking good.

Aside, if you want to base superiority on the metric of exclusives, I can say let's base superiority on the metrics of third party support and the collective picture that PS4 and the One have in contrast to Nintendo. Looks to me one of these is far more relevant to many people, and it's not exclusives. I can't help but feel a bit sorry for Nintendo fans, as Nintendo games are good, but in the large scheme of things it's just not enough. If Nintendo cannot sustain business, nothing matters. They're faltering and everyone knows it, despite these attempts at salvaging a sinking ship.

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#95  Edited By emgesp
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@LegatoSkyheart said:
@beastmodeboy said:

^ this guy knows what's up. Hypocrites. Hypocrites everywhere.

WiiU may have the most exclusives, but sadly that doesn't mean a thing in comparison to the PS4.

The PS4 has the graphical power gamers wanted from this generation. It also has the games that gamers want from this generation.

In comparison, WiiU may have Splatoon, Mario Maker, Pokken Tournament, Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, Xenoblade X, Fatal Frame, and Bayonetta 2, which are all considered to be excellent games in their own right, but the PS4 has Bloodborne, Mortal Kombat X, Street Fighter V, Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Fallout, Destiny, Killzone, God of War, Resident Evil, Batman Arkham, The Witcher, Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider, Saints Row, Farcry, Call of Duty, Dark Souls, Grand Theft Auto, etc, etc.........

The WiiU may be a great system for this generation, but to say it outta beat the PS4 because of it's exclusives means NOTHING to the consumer if half of those exclusives don't meet their expectations.

Only fools care about what system beats another. Gamers worth their salt should own both systems. That's the problem here, from what I've read, most so-called gamers here don't own a Wii U. If they don't love games, what are they doing?

The average person doesn't have the luxury of blowing $$$ on multiple consoles per generation. They have to choose wisely when making costly purchases. If a person can only afford one console per gen and they value third party games then the Wii U was never going to be a consideration at all.

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@emgesp said:

The mainstream gamer could give two Shi*s about that. The Wii U could have 100 top rated exclusives, but if they only appeal to Nintendo fans then its irrelevant to even bring up. The average gamer would rather play COD 10 than Mario 50.

@pikachudude860 said:

What will Sony and MS do if Nintendo ever get's strong 3rd party support?

If they have "decent" exclusives, what else do they have to fall on? This is serious.

Gamecube had decent third party support and look how that turned out.

Again, the many years too late "GameCube had decent third party" defense. Seriously, where the hell were you when Nintendo and their fans BARELY survived a Zerg rush and shockwaves of the Dreamcast getting nuked out of the competition? Because the GameCube's third party support WAS NOT well received that gen, and it angers me that it only ever got ANY form of positive note was 2006 and afterward.

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@Pedro said:
@Bigboi500 said:

Weak damage control on your part. The thread is about exclusives, not sales. Why be a fanboy about it? Why not be positive and acknowledge this about the system you allegedly own?

Damage control? What am I damage controlling exactly sir? I stated that their exclusives no significance to the gaming populace and that is demonstrated by the current position the WiiU is in. No one is changing the fact that his has the most exclusive but these exclusives are irrelevant as demonstrated again by the gaming community reception to the system. I don't have to share the same positive and arguably blinded point of view that you have. You can develop a relationship with companies if its makes you feel happy but not because I bought a companies product makes me remotely obligated to defend or like them as an entity.

You're in a thread about exclusives, but are claiming quality games that you can't get anywhere else are insignificant and irrelevant simply because bro gamers and casuals aren't buying the system like the others? That's weak ass damage control at its finest.

By your logic, only things with massive popularity are good, which is utter nonsense. I enjoy all systems, and look for something positive about them, so that makes me "blind" ? That also is utter nonsense. And don't say something lame like "this is teh system wurz so I'm entitled to be teh drooloing fanboy etc." because you act the same over in the GGD forum. If you're a proud fanboy, why did you buy the Wii U in the first place? Surely you've been gaming long enough to know exactly what your were getting when you bought it.

Last gen the Wii had the most sales, was the most relevant system available, but that didn't stop people like you from hating Nintendo regardless of what they do. You can't have it both ways and talk out of both sides of your mouth like that. If you think sales are the be all of everything important, you must acknowledge that the Wii was the best system last gen. If you can't do that, well, just admit what you really are and be done with it.

I really have no idea why you chose to quote me and attempt dialog in the first place, since all you've said is the typical fanboy nonsense from the start.

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@Bigboi500 said:

You're in a thread about exclusives, but are claiming quality games that you can't get anywhere else are insignificant and irrelevant simply because bro gamers and casuals aren't buying the system like the others? That's weak ass damage control at its finest.

By your logic, only things with massive popularity are good, which is utter nonsense. I enjoy all systems, and look for something positive about them, so that makes me "blind" ? That also is utter nonsense. And don't say something lame like "this is teh system wurz so I'm entitled to be teh drooloing fanboy etc." because you act the same over in the GGD forum. If you're a proud fanboy, why did you buy the Wii U in the first place? Surely you've been gaming long enough to know exactly what your were getting when you bought it.

Last gen the Wii had the most sales, was the most relevant system available, but that didn't stop people like you from hating Nintendo regardless of what they do. You can't have it both ways and talk out of both sides of your mouth like that. If you think sales are the be all of everything important, you must acknowledge that the Wii was the best system last gen. If you can't do that, well, just admit what you really are and be done with it.

I really have no idea why you chose to quote me and attempt dialog in the first place, since all you've said is the typical fanboy nonsense from the start.

Since I a proud fanboy, what exactly am I a fanboy of? The facts are deeply bothering you with regards to the state of Nintendo and its games. This thread is about the WiiU exclusives and its purpose is to show its "advantage"over the other systems but these exclusives offer no advantage to the average gamer and is a demonstration that exclusives are irrelevant and hold very little to no weight.

The Wii was factually successful and attracted hordes of non gamers however, it did very little to meet the needs of traditional gamers. Nintendo has isolated the traditional gamer and section themselves to a corner of the market that does not cater for the majority. This is not simply Game X is better than Game Y but facilitating games that attracts a variety of games to which Nintendo fails. Because of this, the number of exclusives the system has is pretty much useless especially when it only caters for a very specific and dedicated gamer that has an undying love for Nintendo.

With that said the Wii as a system was garbage. It was a repackage Gamecube with a gimmick of a controller. It was successful but it had even less of a viable library of games than the WiiU. But improving your game selection from the Wii is not much of an achievement but if you want to believe that the WiiU is such a compelling system then you are obviously free to have that belief.

I am not obligated to find the "good" in all systems. These systems are hardware and the hardware for all the systems are very functional. The decisions made by the companies that make the hardware is what affect the quality and number of games. Nintendo has not done anything right for the past 3 generations and they seem to be very comfortable with that decision.

I buy systems simply because I can and I know what to expect from a Nintendo system. Unless you are trying to say that owners of systems don't have the right to say anything negative about said system. Now that will be foolish now wouldn't it?

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There's no doubt it has more exclusives, too bad it has nothing else going for it.

@Vatusus said:

too bad a console doesnt live only on exclusive games. They're important, thats fosho, but far from the main reason to buy a console, especially if you dont have a benchmark pc. I chose my console (only one for gen for me, more than that is a waste of money) based on multiplat availability and exclusives that are more up my alley and with that in mind, the PS4 was the clear winner

By far the vast majority of gamers only choose 1 console, and that is the problem for the Wii-U. It is, at best, a secondary console to PC or PS4. (possibly 3rd, but if someone just updated their PC within the last couple of years they can easily skip the PS4 and go for the Wii-U instead).

I consider myself a very active gamer, I buy 100+ games for pretty much every console I own, and even I usually only buy one console every 2 or 3 years. I think last gen was the only time I ever owned all 3 (360, PS3, Wii), in every previous gen I skipped at least one of the consoles, or sometimes just went with 1 console all gen long. The PS2 was my only console for several years, probably from like 2000-2006 - at least until whenever the Gamecube was cleared out for $99 at which point I added it (I did get to play tons of Xbox due to my roomate having one, but I never had one myself).

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@emgesp said:

The mainstream gamer could give two Shi*s about that. The Wii U could have 100 top rated exclusives, but if they only appeal to Nintendo fans then its irrelevant to even bring up. The average gamer would rather play COD 10 than Mario 50.

@pikachudude860 said:

What will Sony and MS do if Nintendo ever get's strong 3rd party support?

If they have "decent" exclusives, what else do they have to fall on? This is serious.

Gamecube had decent third party support and look how that turned out.

Again, the many years too late "GameCube had decent third party" defense. Seriously, where the hell were you when Nintendo and their fans BARELY survived a Zerg rush and shockwaves of the Dreamcast getting nuked out of the competition? Because the GameCube's third party support WAS NOT well received that gen, and it angers me that it only ever got ANY form of positive note was 2006 and afterward.

I'm not saying third party support on the GC was the greatest, but it definitely was leagues better than what the Wii U got. Probably as good if not better than the Dreamcast in terms of support.