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#1 mijkil
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Dont get me wrong, I absolutley LOVE to bash the WII. Its like ripping on the rich, obnoxious kid at school - They both deserve it.

How we laughed at the Shovelware, the last-gen graphics, the dreadfull E3 presentations and the utter betrayal of the pathetically loyal hardcore Nintendo fans, but it feels like nowadys even a CONDUIT screenshot thread can barley raise a smile on my face. System Wars needs some new ammuntion in the war against Nintendo and its abomination of a console. ;)

Then - THIS article caught my attention. Its not quite enough to bring back the halcyon days of 2007 but it does make some fascinating points.

"Cowen & Company's Doug Creutz then told Gamasutra that, 'Nintendo is the dominant publisher on the Wii with over one-third of software market share
on its platform. Guitar Hero and Rock Band account for one-sixth of sales.
So the addressable market for third-party Wii titles is only about half of what the installed base would imply. The situation on the 360/PS3 is less daunting, with less than a quarter of software dollar share going to first-party publishers and Guitar Hero/Rock Band.' The short version? 'You have more control over your fate on the 360/PS3 if you can come up with a high-quality game. Whereas on the Wii, it's a bit of a crapshoot for what works and what doesn't.'"

Considering that the combined market for 360/ps3 multiplats is close to 50 million, its no wonder that no one wants to make 3rd party software for the Wii.

So there you go Wii fans - The big 3rd party devs arent going to magically switch to making decent games just because Wii is wining the sales race. Oh you'll no doubt get the occasional tasty bone tossed by the big N, but the reality you face is endless shovelware and mini-game collections from the rest of the industry for EVER and EVER, untill you collapse into a heap of bitter tears and frustration, and curse the gods for the day they made you a Nintendo fanboy.

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#3 -CheeseEater-
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Alright. You tell me. Is it not cheaper to develop for the Wii in comparison to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 306? Does the Wii not have the biggest install base of all consoles this "generation"? Which development cycle requires more work and dedicated to publish a game on? Because of this, you would expect it possible for developers to make a proper and decent game on the System.
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#4 ogvampire
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hm... a somewhat interesting article followed by a ridiculous fanboy rant...

way to sink the ship, captain :roll:

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#5 cloudff7tm
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:lol: You are too much.

That last paragraph had me rolling.

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#6 mijkil
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hm... a somewhat interesting article followed by a ridiculous fanboy rant...

way to sink the ship, captain :roll:

ogvampire

Thanks, I try my best. ;)

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#7 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="mijkil"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

hm... a somewhat interesting article followed by a ridiculous fanboy rant...

way to sink the ship, captain :roll:

Thanks, I try my best. ;)

Sadly, it's not good enough ;)
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#9 D_Kefka
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I love what you just said (wipes the tear and starts to clap)

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#10 Heydanbud92
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lol all the sheep are gone, man you won't get much of a response

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#11 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

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#12 Jason20091
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Well this is no big deal because most gamers buy the Wii for its first party titles. Plus there has been some decent third party games for the Wii. The Wii is a great system and hopefully people on this forum will realize that.

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#13 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Aljosa23
Ouch.
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How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Aljosa23

lol he may pull a sheep move from 2008 and say wait for e3....

hopefully MSes e3 won't be as abysmal as Nintendo's last year.

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#15 mijkil
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How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Aljosa23

Who mentioned the 360?

Please stay on topic, and leave your fanboyism at the door, this is a good honest thread, with a pretty serious point.

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#16 ActicEdge
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I don't really see what there is to be bitter about. The market is always growing and honestly, how many third parties have actually tried to go after the remaining portion of the market with games people want to buy? The only bitter tears in this post was your rant to follow which is a shame since the article itself makes a good point.

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#17 D_Kefka
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how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

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#18 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="mijkil"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Who mentioned the 360?

Please stay on topic, and leave your fanboyism at the door, this is a good honest thread, with a pretty serious point.

System Wars. Whe we talk about a console, we compare it with the other ones.
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#19 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

D_Kefka
MadWorld is doing great, so is Rune Factory, Deadly Creatures. That's just this first three months. Thanks for asking.
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#20 mitu123
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mijkil"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Who mentioned the 360?

Please stay on topic, and leave your fanboyism at the door, this is a good honest thread, with a pretty serious point.

System Wars. Whe we talk about a console, we compare it with the other ones.

I thought you don't like the rules here...
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#21 Lethalhazard
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lol @ the Wii

Casual people buying the system because they hear about revolutionary things such as Wii Fit from their friends.

There's barely any AAA titles that are on the console compared to PS3 and 360. Especially considering this gen's games, not something like the Resident Evil IV port or Twilight Princess which was built around the Gamecube engine.

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#22 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I thought you don't like the rules here...mitu123
I don't. But that's not a rule. It's the sole purpose of this board.
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#23 Grinning_Demon
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how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

D_Kefka
Better than first party games right now, to be honest
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#24 D_Kefka
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your welcome and thank you for answering:D

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

mijkil

Who mentioned the 360?

Please stay on topic, and leave your fanboyism at the door, this is a good honest thread, with a pretty serious point.

butthurtism affects millions.

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[QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Grinning_Demon

Better than first party games right now, to be honest

and since 3rd parties are still underperforming i think it's safe to say wii is a phailure?

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#27 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"] I thought you don't like the rules here...IronBass
I don't. But that's not a rule. It's the sole purpose of this board.

Ok, fair enough.
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#28 Grinning_Demon
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and since 3rd parties are still underperforming i think it's safe to say wii is a phailure? Heydanbud92
You're just begging me to post charts and lists arent you? Sorry, not worth it. Plus, you'l probably sleep better believing what you say :)
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I thought you don't like the rules here...mitu123
I don't. But that's not a rule. It's the sole purpose of this board.

Ok, fair enough.

Being completely honest, I also don't like the idea of bringing another topics to a disucssion. But he called Aljosa fanboy, so I had to interfere :evil:
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#30 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="IronBass"] I don't. But that's not a rule. It's the sole purpose of this board.IronBass
Ok, fair enough.

Being completely honest, I also don't like the idea of bringing another topics to a disucssion. But he called Aljosa fanboy, so I had to interfere :evil:

That's a good way to start a arguement, LOL. Also, in a way, that makes sense since Aljosa isn't even a fanboy.
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Fanboys are the dirge of the Internet
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#32 Trinners
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All the sheep are dead. They died in the massive sheep LOLocaust known as e3 2008.

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[QUOTE="mijkil"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

How are those 360 exclusives coming along? Oh wait...

Heydanbud92

Who mentioned the 360?

Please stay on topic, and leave your fanboyism at the door, this is a good honest thread, with a pretty serious point.

butthurtism affects millions.

I know, right? This thread proves your point. Good job.

And :lol: at me being butthurt over the 360, I'm a PC gamer and don't give a **** about your silly console.

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#34 mijkil
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I know your all upset, but please, I only wanted to avoid more dissapointment in the future.

For a long time now, Wii fans have been kidding themselves that just because the Wii has been selling like free hamburgers, its going to follow the path of the ps2 and become the platform of choice for 3rd party developers. We're now a good way into this gen, and this turnaround hasnt happened yet, and from looking at the facts, its unlikely to happen in the future.

If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys.

I want you to see sense before its too late, and this gen has passed you by.

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#35 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

D_Kefka
Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:
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#36 Mr_Nordquist
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I didn't shed a tear, but even I think that Nintendo needs to stop dominating their own console with software. I mean I like that they put out great games, but there's such a small window for 3rd party developers to make money with the Wii that it's typically not worth it.

Nintendo has always been on the right track with handhelds though. Why they can't mimick that on the consoles I'll never know.

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[QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:

Isn't Little King's Story coming out soon? I believe that game scored a 9 in Edge.

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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Aljosa23

Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:

Isn't Little King's Story coming out soon? I believe that game scored a 9 in Edge.

Yep, and it got AAA from another site.
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Aljosa23

Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:

Isn't Little King's Story coming out soon? I believe that game scored a 9 in Edge.

Yup :D but dont tell fanboys that they will just consider it kiddy,mini game shovelware :roll:
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Aljosa23

Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:

Isn't Little King's Story coming out soon? I believe that game scored a 9 in Edge.

Muramasa. All I need for the year. (not really but sadly Lost Planet 2 isn't coming out this year :cry: I want it so bad)

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If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys. mijkil
Who are you to decide what's strong or not on other people console's?
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[QUOTE="mijkil"]If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys. IronBass
Who are you to decide what's strong or not on other people console's?

I know, how dare he have an opinion.

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Muramasa. All I need for the year. (not really but sadly Lost Planet 2 isn't coming out this year :cry: I want it so bad)

ActicEdge

I'm still cautious about that game, the same developer made Odin Sphere...:o

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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="D_Kefka"]

how's your Wii third party games doing, oh wait

Aljosa23

Well the conduit, madworld HotD: Overkill and Tenchu are doing just fine :wink:

Isn't Little King's Story coming out soon? I believe that game scored a 9 in Edge.

who else finds it funny that sheep always list the same handful of games when someone questions their 3rd party games?

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:cry:NO! I didn't KNOW that the wii has shovelware like most of the popular systems in all the other gens. no! No! NO! *breaks down into furious sobbing*
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Muramasa. All I need for the year. (not really but sadly Lost Planet 2 isn't coming out this year :cry: I want it so bad)

Aljosa23

I'm still cautious about that game, the same developer made Odin Sphere...:o

I hope there isn't some slowdown either.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mijkil"]If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys. Heydanbud92

Who are you to decide what's strong or not on other people console's?

I know, how dare he have an opinion.

It was not an opinion. It was trolling post.
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Muramasa. All I need for the year. (not really but sadly Lost Planet 2 isn't coming out this year :cry: I want it so bad)

Aljosa23

I'm still cautious about that game, the same developer made Odin Sphere...:o

From what I've seen it'll suit me fine. I heard a lot of the issues in Odin Sphere were resolved though. I never actually got a chance to play Odin Sphere however. I'll make a thread on it closer to launch though, hopefully change your mind :D

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[QUOTE="mijkil"]If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys. IronBass
Who are you to decide what's strong or not on other people console's?

Im sure they're, fun little games for the less demanding consumer, but they hardly compete with the kind of big-budget, epic experiences available in the superb selection of 3rd party multiplats on 360/ps3

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="mijkil"]If you think The Conduit and Deadly Creatures represent a strong 3rd party line-up then I really feel sorry for you guys. mijkil

Who are you to decide what's strong or not on other people console's?

Im sure they're, fun little games for the less demanding consumer, but they hardly compete with the kind of big-budget, epic experiences available in the superb selection of 3rd party multiplats on 360/ps3

Yeah, opinions is what keep the world turning around.