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#51 Sky-
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thats great that your playing review scores ill actual play GAMES, and the wii has tons of great gamesshadow_hosi

Relative to it's competition, I would say that its library pales in comparison. Certainly, it does have some really great games...it just takes a while to find them amongst all of the mediocre titles that flood the system. Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game so far during this generation!

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#52 gamer620
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Out of those 150 titles that have AA or better on 360 or the 120 that have AA or better on PS3, how many do you ACTUALLY own?

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#53 Sky-
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Out of those 150 titles that have AA or better on 360 or the 120 that have AA or better on PS3, how many do you ACTUALLY own?

gamer620

Gotta catch em all =P

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#54 Half-Way
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Out of those 150 titles that have AA or better on 360 or the 120 that have AA or better on PS3, how many do you ACTUALLY own?

gamer620

which proves only the system with the best of the best games should be considered the best

makes it easyer for you to buy the best games on the system.

and so far SMG > everything this gen

and as a bonus, Zelda TP, Brawl , Metroid Prime Trilogy

:P

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#55 dovberg
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most of those highly rated ps3 games are multi plat and or not worth playing, alot the lower rated wii games are exclusive and very worth while. I'd rather play mario, punch out, no more heroes then more of the same(yes mario is more innovative than CoD).

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#56 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="gamer620"]

Out of those 150 titles that have AA or better on 360 or the 120 that have AA or better on PS3, how many do you ACTUALLY own?

Sky-

Gotta catch em all =P

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#57 manicfoot
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Thankfully I have my own opinions. I prefer Wii to the PS3 and 360 (yes, I own a 3).

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#58 gamer620
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[QUOTE="gamer620"]

Out of those 150 titles that have AA or better on 360 or the 120 that have AA or better on PS3, how many do you ACTUALLY own?

Half-Way

which proves only the system with the best of the best games should be considered the best

makes it easyer for you to buy the best games on the system.

and so far SMG > everything this gen

and as a bonus, Zelda TP, Brawl , Metroid Prime Trilogy

:P

Not that I share your enthusiasm, but yeah, thats my point :P
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#59 VendettaRed07
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you exaggerate. 66 AA-AAA titles doesn't = garbage

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#60 InfinityMugen
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If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

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#61 TheSterls
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too bad the wii wins in AAAes and AAes.

where would the HD twins be without multiplats;)

don't get me wrong i love both of my consoles

gamedude234

Good thing those multiplats make up the bulk of great games this generation , and there not even playable on the Wii.

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#62 awssk8er716
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I laughed at the title.

Then I laughed more when I saw that your entire post was reviews.

:P

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#63 Lost-Memory
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Wii has the most games that interest me out of the two consoles I own (Xbox360 and Wii). Scores are meaningless and considering games like GTAIV and the like which get 9.0+ scores are actually ... not that great. .. yeah. A lot of my favourite games this generation aren't even 9.0 scoring game's.

I would almost have to agree. I like some of the wii games... especially since wii motion plus. I disagree, GTA4 is one of my favourite games ever... lol and your Avatar pic thing is awesome.
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#64 BuryMe
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OK...

I have a wii and am in no way struggling for games. I don't care what score a game gets. It could be AAAA, but if i have no interest in it, i'm passing. That's the case for the PS3 and 360.

If it got less than AA but I want to play it, I will. And that's the case with the Wii. I'have really enjoyed games that scored less than 8.0

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#65 Bigboi500
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Your opinion = nothing to me.

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#66 Brawl578
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How exhilirating.

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#67 Pixel-Pirate
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If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

InfinityMugen

Most gamers these days don't seem to look for games themselves, they rely on a 200 million dollar ad and hype campaign to tell them they want a game. And the Wii doesn't have those 200 million dollar ad campaigns and the visibility of the summer blockbuster style games, so if you just go by hype...it has nothing but nintendo.

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#68 ActicEdge
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Okay, am I now forbidden from having fun with "terrible" or do you just like the look of your own posts?

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#69 Shielder7
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[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

Pixel-Pirate

Most gamers these days don't seem to look for games themselves, they rely on a 200 million dollar ad and hype campaign to tell them they want a game. And the Wii doesn't have those 200 million dollar ad campaigns and the visibility of the summer blockbuster style games, so if you just go by hype...it has nothing but nintendo.

That's funny because I've seen more Nintendo adds than 360 or Ps3.

You think that the way they were advertising Crystal Bearers that it was a AAAAE game not a 5-6 out of 10. Same thing with Wii Sports Resort I've seen it more times than I can count and for a AA game it got more on air time than all the AAAAE games combined last year.

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#70 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

Most gamers these days don't seem to look for games themselves, they rely on a 200 million dollar ad and hype campaign to tell them they want a game. And the Wii doesn't have those 200 million dollar ad campaigns and the visibility of the summer blockbuster style games, so if you just go by hype...it has nothing but nintendo.

I agree. When I started this gen, I became disillunsioned on the number of times I bought a game based on hype and visuals. Back in the day, we used to let the games do the talking. Nobody was trying to be a part time analyst and developers werent trying to rival Spielberg. I know most people here wont agree with me but I believe most developers lost the fundamental aspects of making a video game and are over compensating in other areas.
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#71 eveileb-ekam
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

Shielder7

Most gamers these days don't seem to look for games themselves, they rely on a 200 million dollar ad and hype campaign to tell them they want a game. And the Wii doesn't have those 200 million dollar ad campaigns and the visibility of the summer blockbuster style games, so if you just go by hype...it has nothing but nintendo.

That's funny because I've seen more Nintendo adds than 360 or Ps3.

You think that the way they were advertising Crystal Bearers that it was a AAAAE game not a 5-6 out of 10. Same thing with Wii Sports Resort I've seen it more times than I can count and for a AA game it got more on air time than all the AAAAE games combined last year.

Whilst Nintendo is the exception that proves the rule, generally speaking third party marketing campaigns for Wii games are atrocious. And Im not talking about just on air time, either - a marketting campaign covers a lot more than just a few tv spots. Wii Sports Resort should have been an AAA for its genre - regardless of its score, it deserved the attention it got.
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#72 Ibacai
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Let's look at each consoles line up according to gamespot reviews.

360 : 32 AAA Titles

119 AA Titles

PS3 : 29 AAA Titles

86 AA Titles

Wii : 9 AAA Titles

57 AA games

My numbers might be a bit off but that just proves Wii only owners really struggle for games.

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How can you prove anything if you yourself say that your numbers might be off? And how do you use opinions to prove anything? BOOOOOOOOOO on this thread, a pox it spreads. HISSSSSSSSSSS!!!
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#73 mojito1988
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If Zelda and Mario and Fire Emblem and Dragon Warrior and Metroid were on/comming out forthe Ps3 or 360 I would I would agree with you. But they are not so no.

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#74 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

If I were ignorant of the good titles and had a shelf full of shovelware, I'd say the same thing.

Shielder7

Most gamers these days don't seem to look for games themselves, they rely on a 200 million dollar ad and hype campaign to tell them they want a game. And the Wii doesn't have those 200 million dollar ad campaigns and the visibility of the summer blockbuster style games, so if you just go by hype...it has nothing but nintendo.

That's funny because I've seen more Nintendo adds than 360 or Ps3.

You think that the way they were advertising Crystal Bearers that it was a AAAAE game not a 5-6 out of 10. Same thing with Wii Sports Resort I've seen it more times than I can count and for a AA game it got more on air time than all the AAAAE games combined last year.

Why are you going on about AA this and AAAAE that? Pixel-Pirate is right, to many gamers depend on big name hype and imo depend on game reviewers opinions way too much.

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#75 Sky-
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Why are you going on about AA this and AAAAE that? Pixel-Pirate is right, to many gamers depend on big name hype and imo depend on game reviewers opinions way too much.

Bigboi500

I suggest that you find a better alternative than using reviews to discuss the quality of a game on this forum. Otherwise, I think we should continue to use them. It is a flawed system for sure, but it is the best we have. It brings a little bit of sense to this senseless place.

Regarding your personal tastes, it is fine if you don't rely on reviews. But until you or someone else figures out a better way to judge a game or a system's library, then that is the best way and maybe only method of figuring out the quality aforementioned things when discussing with others. Give the reviewers some credit...You don't need to trust one source, I prefer using Metacritic/GameRankings.

When making my own purchases, I am more concerned about the actual content of the review rather than the score itself...but that's a completely different story.

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#76 AmayaPapaya
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Ty listing the games. the acctualy games gives it a completly different look.

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#77 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Why are you going on about AA this and AAAAE that? Pixel-Pirate is right, to many gamers depend on big name hype and imo depend on game reviewers opinions way too much.

Sky-

I suggest that you find a better alternative than using reviews to discuss the quality of a game on this forum. Otherwise, I think we should continue to use them. It is a flawed system for sure, but it is the best we have. It brings a little bit of sense to this senseless place.

Regarding your personal tastes, it is fine if you don't rely on reviews. But until you or someone else figures out a better way to judge a game or a system's library, then that is the best way and maybe only method of figuring out the quality aforementioned things when discussing with others. Give the reviewers some credit...You don't need to trust one source, I prefer using Metacritic/GameRankings.

When making my own purchases, I am more concerned about the actual content of the review rather than the score itself...but that's a completely different story.

All I'm saying is people are entirely too reliant on scores. Reading the content of the reviews is much better than going simply by the scores I'll agree with that. Playing the System Wars meta-game is entertaining and all in good fun, but when people take things like AAA, AA, etc outside the forum and use that as a sole-determining quality in real life then it becomes problematic and delusional in my opinion.

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#78 Hahadouken
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I don't think what's in the Wii's library is troubling... you have great Mario, Zelda, Metroid games, lots of fun, unique stuff like Wii Sports...

What I do find troubling is what's NOT in the Wii's library, and that includes Metal Gear, Gears, Halo, Gran Turismo, God of War, Mass Effect, Uncharted, Grand Theft Auto, Call of Duty, Forza, Tekken, inFamous, Twisted Metal, BioShock, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, NHL 10, Red Faction, Saints Row, Dead Space, Last Guardian, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, etc etc etc. That's just literally the stuff I could name in a stream-of-consciousness sty|e without looking anything up. There are dozens more.

Not a friggin chance in hell I could miss out on all of those and subsist only on 1st-party Nintendo titles and the occasional good sports or shooter title.

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#79 tok1879
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[QUOTE="Sky-"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"]

Exclusives rule SW, anybody whose been here for more than a couple of months can tell you that.

Im_single

When some of the biggest and most critically acclaimed titles of this gen are on every console except the Wii, then it does become a bit of a problem for the console. It would be okay if the library consisted of amazing first party and third party like previous market leaders such as the PS2, but it doesn't. Please find me a legitimate reason why multiplats shouldn't count in this case besides "SW doesn't acknowledge it."

Ugh...Everyday it seems. I'll address what you said about the Wii lacking good third/first party titles....It doesn't. Simple. Wii has a great exclusive library. About exclusives; it's just the way SW works, multiplats are nice but exclusives are what really counts around here, don't like it then don't post.

SW is all about ownage for your console and your console alone, if a game is available on both PS3/360 and is equally great on both then it's a stalemate, nobody wins. If Lemmings have a swanky exclusive Cows don't have then Cows/Sheep/Hermits are owned. A game being mutliplat negates the ownage. While multiplats are nice for numbers, it's exclusives that are the real deal around here.

Uhm, sooooo...where can i read the SW rule book you wrote?
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#80 LiquidSnake1001
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To be honest I only really made this thread because of all the "Wii is owning 2010 threads" I really just wanted to show that while Wii may have alot of good exclusives (but like someone said most were 07 and 08 releases), its line-up really lacks mainly because it misses out on many great multi-plats.
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#81 Burning-Sludge
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Relative to it's competition, I would say that its library pales in comparison. Certainly, it does have some really great games...it just takes a while to find them amongst all of the mediocre titles that flood the system. Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game so far during this generation!

Sky-

That's true until you realize that TEH GRAFIX console's games are not genre diverse.

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#82 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Sky-"]

Relative to it's competition, I would say that its library pales in comparison. Certainly, it does have some really great games...it just takes a while to find them amongst all of the mediocre titles that flood the system. Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game so far during this generation!

Burning-Sludge

That's true until you realize that TEH GRAFIX console's games are not genre diverse.

That's completely false. No, it's not an opinion either, it's just incorrect.
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#83 JuarN18
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Nice opinions

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#84 Sky-
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That's true until you realize that TEH GRAFIX console's games are not genre diverse.

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Generalizations are fun.

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#85 Sky-
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All I'm saying is people are entirely too reliant on scores. Reading the content of the reviews is much better than going simply by the scores I'll agree with that. Playing the System Wars meta-game is entertaining and all in good fun, but when people take things like AAA, AA, etc outside the forum and use that as a sole-determining quality in real life then it becomes problematic and delusional in my opinion.

Bigboi500

True, but that struggle between going by mainstream opinion and reviews and forming your own opinion is not really limited to gaming.

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#86 Mario1331
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where would the HD twins be without pc ports surrealnumber5

lol how did i miss this thread and yea pc makes there games looks so inferior but hey let them have their lil victory

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#87 Mario1331
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To be honest I only really made this thread because of all the "Wii is owning 2010 threads" I really just wanted to show that while Wii may have alot of good exclusives (but like someone said most were 07 and 08 releases), its line-up really lacks mainly because it misses out on many great multi-plats.LiquidSnake1001

so you couldnt win an exclusive battle so you use the secret weapon MULTI-PLATS

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#88 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

[QUOTE="Sky-"]

Relative to it's competition, I would say that its library pales in comparison. Certainly, it does have some really great games...it just takes a while to find them amongst all of the mediocre titles that flood the system. Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game so far during this generation!

Hahadouken

That's true until you realize that TEH GRAFIX console's games are not genre diverse.

That's completely false. No, it's not an opinion either, it's just incorrect.

There are quite a few genres on the HD twins, but really...aside from the action and fps games, I cannot name many, and a good chunk of them are either terrible or no one plays them. The vast majority of the big games on the HD twins are action or fps.

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#89 Seabas989
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Not a very good post TC seeing as how I actually like a lot of thosegames along with other Wii owners athat are actually satsified with their purchase.

BTW while I like multiplats I've noticed and I still find it odd that this is SW's yet all of a sudden when it's a Wii thread, their is this PS360 alliance that is used against the Wii. However, that doesn't change the fact that the majority of SW's have been 360 vs PS3 threads. Not to mention that if we use this arguement then the PC wins everything regarding to superior multiplats and exclusives making SW's pointless.

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#90 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

That's true until you realize that TEH GRAFIX console's games are not genre diverse.

Pixel-Pirate

That's completely false. No, it's not an opinion either, it's just incorrect.

There are quite a few genres on the HD twins, but really...aside from the action and fps games, I cannot name many, and a good chunk of them are either terrible or no one plays them. The vast majority of the big games on the HD twins are action or fps.

yea can anybody name at least 5 good games that are different genre besides shooters and action maybe rpg's

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#91 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] That's completely false. No, it's not an opinion either, it's just incorrect. Mario1331

There are quite a few genres on the HD twins, but really...aside from the action and fps games, I cannot name many, and a good chunk of them are either terrible or no one plays them. The vast majority of the big games on the HD twins are action or fps.

yea can anybody name at least 5 good games that are different genre besides shooters and action maybe rpg's

I can think of little big planet, ratchet and clank, viva piniata (which is fairly old now) and....that's it.

Now I'm not saying other games don't exist, just that they do not have nearly the advertisement or draw power on the HD consoles as the action and shooters do. There are other non-shooter/action games, but they get no hype.

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#92 Merex760
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I think the Wii has a decent, but not great library. It does however, have a crapload of shovelware. More than the 360 and PS3 combined.

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#93 Mario1331
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I think the Wii has a decent, but not great library. It does however, have a crapload of shovelware. More than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Merex760

so we grade libraries on shovelware now because believe me i can take a picture of the 360/ps3 section at my job and theres a lot

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#94 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Merex760"]

I think the Wii has a decent, but not great library. It does however, have a crapload of shovelware. More than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Mario1331

so we grade libraries on shovelware now because believe me i can take a picture of the 360/ps3 section at my job and theres a lot

If we graded on shovelware then the PS2 and NES would be two of the worst consoles ever made.

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#95 battalionwars13
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Too bad its library appeals to me more than the PS3's. Probably why I bought it over a PS3.

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#96 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="Merex760"]

I think the Wii has a decent, but not great library. It does however, have a crapload of shovelware. More than the 360 and PS3 combined.

Pixel-Pirate

so we grade libraries on shovelware now because believe me i can take a picture of the 360/ps3 section at my job and theres a lot

If we graded on shovelware then the PS2 and NES would be two of the worst consoles ever made.

I....absolutely agree

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#97 n00bkid
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I don't care what anybody says in SW...Wii is for children, parents buy random junk for there children, so wii keeps putting out Shovelware. I don't even consider Wii a system. It's PS3 VS 360 as far as i'm concerned. And now i own all 3! so i'm allowed to bash :)
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#98 InfinityMugen
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I don't care what anybody says in SW...Wii is for children, parents buy random junk for there children, so wii keeps putting out Shovelware. I don't even consider Wii a system. It's PS3 VS 360 as far as i'm concerned. And now i own all 3! so i'm allowed to bash :)n00bkid
So what you're saying is your parents bought you "random junk", for you the child?

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#99 ArisShadows
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So 66 AA or above titles is considered bad now?
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#100 nintend-man86
Member since 2006 • 933 Posts

i own more 5 wii exculsives and 3 360 exclusives. i play 360 way more though.