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#1 PSP107
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http://www.xblafans.com/new-pricing-for-demos-could-change-xbla-games-in-a-big-way-168.html

No chance

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#2 millerlight89
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All of this talk about paying for a demo is making me sad :(.
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#3 SgtKevali
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If you make me pay for your demo I won't buy your game. Have at it.

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#4 Funconsole
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Simple logic here. Give me free demo...I buy full game. Give me paid demo...I dont buy game* *Some exceptions apply!*
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#5 OhSnapitz
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Quote from the same article..

"Sweet what a great idea! Next time I go car shopping I can pay the dealer for the exclusive right to test drive his vehicle. I mean after all I'm putting miles on it and using gas. Why shouldn't I pay? What a great deal! Maybe later Microsoft can release a new controller. It should be a USB foot connected to a hydraulic ram. Then I could pay say 500 Microsoft points for a kick to the ****!"

I say he speaks for quite a few gamers..

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#6 XboximusPrime
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Demos are meant to be free. Even putting them as Promotional preorder items is almost crossing the line.

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#7 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="Funconsole"]Simple logic here. Give me free demo...I buy full game. Give me paid demo...I dont buy game* *Some exceptions apply!*

Tell that to the GT5 people that will see their game in 5 years!
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#8 XboximusPrime
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[QUOTE="Funconsole"]Simple logic here. Give me free demo...I buy full game. Give me paid demo...I dont buy game* *Some exceptions apply!*IWKYB
Tell that to the GT5 people that will see their game in 5 years!

.... I like Prolouge.

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#9 aroxx_ab
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They love to be milked so im pretty sure they will pay for it... lemmings get what they pay for right :P

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#10 WithoutGraceXII
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"The whole reason behind the idea of PDLC from the developer and publisher prospective is to recoup the money hemorrhaged in the development of said demo." Then don't release a one. It's your call: make the demo for the extra marketing and hope it attracts more buyers for the retail product, or don't do it and save some cash. If demos ever start costing money I hope gamers everywhere boycot the idea entirely.
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#11 savagetwinkie
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I don't see buying demos here, just no demos and lots of episodic content, buy small peices and if you don't like it no large loss but you've got more to play with then a normal demo. Which isn't bad either, a game like brutal legend could have had a slightly larger demo to see its RTS roots and instead came off like an action game. In fact as soon as you get past that first area its practically wildly different experiences. And are they really complaining about costs, most demos are the first level of the game, OMG its going to cost us a days worth of work to take out the extra levels and add pictures of them saying BUY IT.
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#12 jrhawk42
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considering I've seen beta keys going for fairly good cash I'm pretty sure there are people out there that will pay for demos.

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#13 XboximusPrime
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They love to be milked so im pretty sure they will pay for it... lemmings get what they pay for right :P

aroxx_ab

Can someone explain to me why SONY fanboys are called cows, when this gen I think 360 fans have been milked the most? I call for a name change.

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#14 OhSnapitz
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By the way people... this is ACROSS THE BOARD!!! Not just XBL.. That means PSN and possibly PC demo's will charge as well.

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#15 Santesyu
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All of this talk about paying for a demo is making me sad :(.millerlight89
Same here, sad that we will well havet to pay for demos sooner or later, Paying to play online, Gotta pay for demos, gotta pay for DLC what is gaming coming too. Maybe it is cheaper to be a PC gamer from this prespective.
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#16 slvrraven9
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i hate Polyhpony Digital for doing this....
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#17 IWKYB
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You guys are getting ripped man. Even the Forza 2 demo was free. :(
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#18 OhSnapitz
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Analyst: EA To Release Paid DLC Prior To Packaged Game Launches After an investor visit with Electronic Arts, analyst Michael Pachter said that the publisher is planning a strategy that will involve selling "premium downloadable content" before a packaged game's release. According to a Monday investor note from Wedbush Morgan's Pachter, Nick Earl, general manager of EA-owned Dead Space studio Visceral Games, revealed the new strategy. Pachter wrote, "The PDLC would be sold for $10 or $15 through Xbox Live and PlayStation Network, and would essentially be a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009's Battlefield 1943." He added, "A full-blown packaged game would follow shortly after the release of the PDLC, bearing a full retail price. Mr. Earl believes that the release of the PDLC first limits the risk of completing and marketing the full packaged version, and serves as a low-cost marketing tool."

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#19 aroxx_ab
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By the way people... this is ACROSS THE BOARD!!! Not just XBL.. That means PSN and possibly PC demo's will charge as well.

OhSnapitz

Yeah that is true, but PC gamers is used to get everything for free. It will be next to impossible to sell demos to hermits :P

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#20 TrapMuzik92
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If you make me pay for your demo I won't buy your game. Have at it.

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lol Couldnt agree anymore...
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#21 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Analyst: EA To Release Paid DLC Prior To Packaged Game Launches After an investor visit with Electronic Arts, analyst Michael Pachter said that the publisher is planning a strategy that will involve selling "premium downloadable content" before a packaged game's release. According to a Monday investor note from Wedbush Morgan's Pachter, Nick Earl, general manager of EA-owned Dead Space studio Visceral Games, revealed the new strategy. Pachter wrote, "The PDLC would be sold for $10 or $15 through Xbox Live and PlayStation Network, and would essentially be a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009's Battlefield 1943." He added, "A full-blown packaged game would follow shortly after the release of the PDLC, bearing a full retail price. Mr. Earl believes that the release of the PDLC first limits the risk of completing and marketing the full packaged version, and serves as a low-cost marketing tool."

the ONLY way id pay for a demo is if the cost of the demo came off the overall price of the game. otherwise **** that.....
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#22 fend_oblivion
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A demo is a sample. Who the heck pays for samples?

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#23 IWKYB
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A demo is a sample. Who the heck pays for samples?

fend_oblivion
The funny thing is the whole non-free DLC started with comments like this now everybody pays for what the companies "forgot" to put in.
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#24 aroxx_ab
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

A demo is a sample. Who the heck pays for samples?

IWKYB

The funny thing is the whole non-free DLC started with comments like this now everybody pays for what the companies "forgot" to put in.

Yeah maybe but when i watch some interviews they always ask "is it multiplayer, will you release DLC?" so the developer feels forced to add stuff like that to make crowd happy.

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#25 i5750at4Ghz
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They already do with those pre order me and get the demo thingys. Same thing if you ask me.
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Now that I think about it..the only way I would probably pay for a demo is if it was intergrated with PSN service plan along with other stuff like faster downloads,DLC,ETC then maybe this would be justifible for a PS3 user like myself... BUT for 360 users there aint no way you can justify that since you guys already pay for live as it is.

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#27 IWKYB
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They already do with those pre order me and get the demo thingys. Same thing if you ask me.i5750at4Ghz
Agreed. aroxx: That is what they would like you to believe. They are corporations after all they must make money!
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Now that I think about it..the only way I would probably pay for a demo is if it was intergrated with PSN service plan along with other stuff like faster downloads,DLC,ETC then maybe this would be justifible for a PS3 user like myself... BUT for 360 users there aint no way you can justify that since you guys already pay for live as it is.

Santesyu
Better online service. Maybe in the next gen sony will make better decisions and they will actually make a profit when they sell a console.
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#29 johnusabeis
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ill never pay for a demo on any platform.
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#30 Respawn-d
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i hate Polyhpony Digital for doing this....slvrraven9

Considering the amount of features gt5p has its was much more worth of the 40 dollars it was worth compare to ODST

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#31 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]i hate Polyhpony Digital for doing this....Respawn-d

Considering the amount of features gt5p has its was much more worth of the 40 dollars it was worth compare to ODST

What exactly did it have compared to ODST? I'm curious.
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#33 AlphaJC
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If you make me pay for your demo I won't buy your game. Have at it.

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hell yeah son!!!

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#34 Xtatic324
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Def not. I will never pay for a demo. I'm paying enough for Xbox Live. Enough is enough.

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#35 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]i hate Polyhpony Digital for doing this....Respawn-d

Considering the amount of features gt5p has its was much more worth of the 40 dollars it was worth compare to ODST

wut... GT5p wasn't worth the disc it was printed on

should've just been a $15 downloadable game

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#36 MellowMighty
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I wouldnt NOT BUY the game because of a paid demo, if i was gonna buy the game without the demo. thats just dumb imo. but yea, I nearly always dl the demo before I buy a game, and I would not download the demo (100% sure of that). So yea, I would not pay for a demo. I would just have to try to try the game at a friend's house, read reviews, ask on forums, etc.

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#37 Santesyu
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[QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Now that I think about it..the only way I would probably pay for a demo is if it was intergrated with PSN service plan along with other stuff like faster downloads,DLC,ETC then maybe this would be justifible for a PS3 user like myself... BUT for 360 users there aint no way you can justify that since you guys already pay for live as it is.

IWKYB
Better online service. Maybe in the next gen sony will make better decisions and they will actually make a profit when they sell a console.

lmao dude I wasnt even talking about 360 vs ps3, stop showing your fan boy colors.
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]i hate Polyhpony Digital for doing this....Respawn-d

Considering the amount of features gt5p has its was much more worth of the 40 dollars it was worth compare to ODST

lol-no...

not even.

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#39 xsubtownerx
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No. And there's a few demos that made me purchase the full game. So it's their loss, not mine.
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#40 ShuichiChamp24
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Never will I pay for a demo. I am a sad gamer that this is being considered.

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#41 Game-fu
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They love to be milked so im pretty sure they will pay for it... lemmings get what they pay for right :P

aroxx_ab

Lol, amen.

I thought this is why we had XBOX Live Gold?

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#42 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

They love to be milked so im pretty sure they will pay for it... lemmings get what they pay for right :P

Game-fu

Lol, amen.

I thought this is why we had XBOX Live Gold?

I guess you both missed the part about EA charging both XBL and PSN users.. :|
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#43 IWKYB
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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Santesyu"]

Now that I think about it..the only way I would probably pay for a demo is if it was intergrated with PSN service plan along with other stuff like faster downloads,DLC,ETC then maybe this would be justifible for a PS3 user like myself... BUT for 360 users there aint no way you can justify that since you guys already pay for live as it is.

Santesyu

Better online service. Maybe in the next gen sony will make better decisions and they will actually make a profit when they sell a console.

lmao dude I wasnt even talking about 360 vs ps3, stop showing your fan boy colors.

I hate fatchan not sony.

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[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Funconsole"]Simple logic here. Give me free demo...I buy full game. Give me paid demo...I dont buy game* *Some exceptions apply!*XboximusPrime

Tell that to the GT5 people that will see their game in 5 years!

.... I like Prolouge.

Prologue has more content than most full titles. Its not a demo.
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#45 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Tell that to the GT5 people that will see their game in 5 years!lucky_star

.... I like Prolouge.

Prologue has more content than most full titles. Its not a demo.

i've seen this comment before, i dunno who originally came to this conclusion, but it must've been somebody who has not played many games

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[QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Tell that to the GT5 people that will see their game in 5 years!lucky_star

.... I like Prolouge.

Prologue has more content than most full titles. Its not a demo.

such as?
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

.... I like Prolouge.

OhSnapitz

Prologue has more content than most full titles. Its not a demo.

such as?

most, apparently.

can't be named because they CBA.....to be wrong.

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#48 Game-fu
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[QUOTE="Game-fu"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

They love to be milked so im pretty sure they will pay for it... lemmings get what they pay for right :P

OhSnapitz

Lol, amen.

I thought this is why we had XBOX Live Gold?

I guess you both missed the part about EA charging both XBL and PSN users.. :|

I guess you missed the part where one of the advertised features of XBL Gold is free demos.

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#49 BuryMe
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I can't imagine why any one would ever pay for a demo.

Even if it's "just" $5, I don't get it. For about $8 you can rent the full game for a week, and maybe even finish it in that time. You'll get a much better idea of the overall product than a demo would ever give, aswell.

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#50 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="XboximusPrime"]

.... I like Prolouge.

OhSnapitz

Prologue has more content than most full titles. Its not a demo.

such as?

I wouldent call this a demo "Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III features 16-player online races, over 70 cars (including tuned cars), 6 tracks, 12 layouts"

PGR3 for example has 80 cars and its a full priced title.

Need for Speed Shift has a little over 60 cars, and 19 tracks.

So i dont think its a demo, simply prologue for fans who wait on the full title.