Will a 100 pound price cut help put PS3 in front of 360 WW in the coming months?

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#1 Swift_Boss_A
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Ok so lets say that a price drop is coming and it's gonna be £100, and I expect MS will retaliate as well with it's price cut but do you think the demand for the PS3 system plus the price cut will help put PS3 in front of 360 WW in the coming months? We all know how much the last price cut helped and this one will put PS3 in the sweet spot price where it becomes an affordable system for the average gamer. PS2 achieved most of it sales when it dropped to £200 so do you think coming off from the success of PS1&2, will the PS3 sell enough with a £100 price cut to pull ahead of the 360 WW or will it not happen any time soon?

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#2 Swift_Boss_A
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Im speaking of monthly sales ofcourse

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#3 Brownesque
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LoL, I would be surprised if Sony could manage a 100 pound price drop just like I would be surprised if Microsoft managed to cut their price in response.
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#4 ironwarrior2
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100 pounds? I knew the ps3 was heavy, but I didn't know it was over 100 pounds!:P

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#5 -DrRobotnik-
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i thought cows didnt care about sales.
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#6 W1NGMAN-
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i thought cows didnt care about sales.-DrRobotnik-

My thoughts exactly.

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#7 heretrix
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It's not going to help one bit.

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#8 imaps3fanboy
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It woudlnt put them over MS but it would put a dent in the gap,

But I could care less about sales so..

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#9 W1NGMAN-
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It's not going to help one bit.

heretrix

Sarcasm?

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#10 BoloTheGreat
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£300 is still a VERY high price point, £200 would make me consider buying one bit i don't think i actually would...

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#11 Swift_Boss_A
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LoL, I would be surprised if Sony could manage a 100 pound price drop just like I would be surprised if Microsoft managed to cut their price in response.Brownesque

I recall hearing Sony cut the manufacturing cost by 70%, so they can afford such a cut. Im not saying they will in this thread Im just hypthetically they do and I just want to know from gamers how will it help Sony?

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#12 imaps3fanboy
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£300 is still a VERY high price point, £200 would make me consider buying one bit i don't think i actually would...

BoloTheGreat

Why not?

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#13 Swift_Boss_A
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i thought cows didnt care about sales.-DrRobotnik-

there is the door, please leave if you are not going to give an intelligent answer, don't make your fellow lemms look bad.

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#14 OreoMilkshake
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Maybe, but Will Smith on the box would be an even better idea.
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#15 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

£300 is still a VERY high price point, £200 would make me consider buying one bit i don't think i actually would...

imaps3fanboy

Why not?

Still too much of a dent in my pocket for an almost idetical system.
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#16 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's not going to help one bit.

W1NGMAN-

Sarcasm?

No, realism. But keep the dream alive.

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#17 SmugGangster
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No, because Europe won't determine crap. How about a $100 price cut. But even then, not too much.
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#18 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

£300 is still a VERY high price point, £200 would make me consider buying one bit i don't think i actually would...

BoloTheGreat

Why not?

Still too much of a dent in my pocket for an almost idetical system.

Ahh..I don't blame you I have all three systems and Im thinking of ditching my 360

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#19 Alpha-Male22
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i thought cows didnt care about sales.-DrRobotnik-
This has nothing to do with cows. The TC is asking a question regarding a price drop, unless he has said such things about sales being irrelevant, then I don't see why your trying to bring the thread down.
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#20 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i thought cows didnt care about sales.Swift_Boss_A

there is the door, please leave if you are not going to give an intelligent answer, don't make your fellow lemms look bad.

Swing and miss. Please dont say fellow lems, you're implying i am a lemming myself. :roll:
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#21 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i thought cows didnt care about sales.Alpha-Male22
This has nothing to do with cows. The TC is asking a question regarding a price drop, unless he has said such things about sales being irrelevant, then I don't see why your trying to bring the thread down.

I know that the TC is a cow. Maybe i shouldnt have said cows in general, but i find it funny that TC cares about sales enough to make a thread. That is all.
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#22 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]Why not?

imaps3fanboy

Still too much of a dent in my pocket for an almost idetical system.

Ahh..I don't blame you I have all three systems and Im thinking of ditching my 360

it's really a toss up, i wouldn't ditch it though unless you have a really strong PC.
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#23 Swift_Boss_A
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No, because Europe won't determine crap. How about a $100 price cut. But even then, not too much. SmugGangster

new account huh, yeah......

Anyway I meant 100 price cut WW not only UK

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#24 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i thought cows didnt care about sales.-DrRobotnik-
This has nothing to do with cows. The TC is asking a question regarding a price drop, unless he has said such things about sales being irrelevant, then I don't see why your trying to bring the thread down.

I know that the TC is a cow. Maybe i shouldnt have said cows in general, but i find it funny that TC cares about sales enough to make a thread. That is all.

*sigh* It's easy to tell whose a fanboy or not, a fanboy would go into a thread and turn into a flame war like you just did. Stop being a lemm fanboy and either leave or answer the question which you have not done so far.

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#25 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Still too much of a dent in my pocket for an almost idetical system. BoloTheGreat

Ahh..I don't blame you I have all three systems and Im thinking of ditching my 360

it's really a toss up, i wouldn't ditch it though unless you have a really strong PC.

Workin on it, need a good graphics card, my ge force 9300 aint made for gamin

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#27 dommeus
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I don't care about that. If it's a hundred quid cheaper I'll buy one.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] This has nothing to do with cows. The TC is asking a question regarding a price drop, unless he has said such things about sales being irrelevant, then I don't see why your trying to bring the thread down.Swift_Boss_A

I know that the TC is a cow. Maybe i shouldnt have said cows in general, but i find it funny that TC cares about sales enough to make a thread. That is all.

*sigh* It's easy to tell whose a fanboy or not, a fanboy would go into a thread and turn into a flame war like you just did. Stop being a lemm fanboy and either leave or answer the question which you have not done so far.

LOL this is hilarious, swift boss taking the 'high road.' Guess your not a fanboy after all :roll:

My answer is no, i dont think the PS3 will overtake the 360 in a matter of months. That really is fanboy dreaming for you right there. Of course im guessing deep down you're disagreeing with my answer because you'd love to see it overtake the 360 and all of a sudden start caring about sales again.

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#29 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] I know that the TC is a cow. Maybe i shouldnt have said cows in general, but i find it funny that TC cares about sales enough to make a thread. That is all.-DrRobotnik-

*sigh* It's easy to tell whose a fanboy or not, a fanboy would go into a thread and turn into a flame war like you just did. Stop being a lemm fanboy and either leave or answer the question which you have not done so far.

LOL this is hilarious, swift boss taking the 'high road.' Guess your not a fanboy after all :roll:

My answer is no, i dont think the PS3 will overtake the 360 in a matter of months. That really is fanboy dreaming for you right there. Of course im guessing deep down you're disagreeing with my answer because you'd love to see it overtake the 360 and all of a sudden start caring about sales again.

Monthly sales, I dont expect it to overtake overal 360 sales but can it outsell 360 in a monthly basis, that's what I meant. Dude it's SW, if it's not exclusives its the sales that drive SW. I certainly dont care whether PS3 stays in last position or not.

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#30 djsifer01
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i thought cows didnt care about sales.-DrRobotnik-
I dont, some of the cows do though. It makes no sense, you cant play sales so why care?
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#31 jonnyt61
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I fully expect PS3 to get a drastic increase in demand in the UK if it got the rumoured £85 price cut. Even better, would be the reinstating of BC.

Just from my experience, there are a lot of people holding off on PS3's because of price, and the lack of BC. If Sony were to release a £200 bundle with at least one high profile game, and BC reinstated, they'd sell the system in droves.

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#32 Sotonian_Rebel
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I fully expect PS3 to get a drastic increase in demand in the UK if it got the rumoured £85 price cut. Even better, would be the reinstating of BC.

Just from my experience, there are a lot of people holding off on PS3's because of price, and the lack of BC. If Sony were to release a £200 bundle with at least one high profile game, and BC reinstated, they'd sell the system in droves.

jonnyt61

and i would be first in the que

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#33 mrarmyman48
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Ok so lets say that a price drop is coming and it's gonna be £100, and I expect MS will retaliate as well with it's price cut but do you think the demand for the PS3 system plus the price cut will help put PS3 in front of 360 WW in the coming months? We all know how much the last price cut helped and this one will put PS3 in the sweet spot price where it becomes an affordable system for the average gamer. PS2 achieved most of it sales when it dropped to £200 so do you think coming off from the success of PS1&2, will the PS3 sell enough with a £100 price cut to pull ahead of the 360 WW or will it not happen any time soon?

Swift_Boss_A

well the PS3 was beating the 360 WW last year every month last year except for FEB and MAY, by the same margins that the 360 is outselling the PS3 by this year,even at a higher pricetag, and it wasnt until september when MS cut 360s price to literally half of PS3s price that it began outselling PS3. the only difference is that PS3 was outselling the 360 with a HIGHER pricetag, and it took the 360 being HALF of PS3s price for the system to bounce back and gain only miniscule 20-50k a month NPD leads.:lol:

it also outsold the 360 WW the entire year of 07. the PS3 should not even exist right now with all the advantages the 360 has over it, and while the 360s monthly leads are so tiny, remember that the PS3 is still the only console outside of the mass market price window ($200-$300). if they were the same price the NPDs would easily double that of the 360s

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#34 ActicEdge
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I don't know, its not like sony exists in its own market. MS can respond rather easily to any price cut Sony provides and in a pricing war MS has the upper hand. I'm not saying the MS price cut would under cut Sony's sales, just boost xbox sales to where things will not have changed much. Really I don't know but we'lll see. The PS3 has the software to do it but does it have the appeal out of the box?

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#35 Hanass
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And I guess every PS3 owner gets a cookie it outsells the 360? I don't see any other reason for caring.

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#36 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

It's not going to help one bit.

heretrix

Sarcasm?

No, realism. But keep the dream alive.

So you don't think a 100 dollar price drop will help improve PS3 sales? Yea ok...:roll:

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#37 0rin
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For one, Robotnik, I'm not sure I quite like your tone in this thread. You're coming off as quite offensive. Another thing is, both you and the TC are hypocritic in calling each other fanboy names, as that in it's self is a rather fanboy-ish thing to do. I for one like to think of myself as more of a realistic thinker. Sure I have a fanboy side, we all do, else wise this would nary be a place to be called "System Wars". As far as the question at hand goes.. Yes, I think a $100 price drop world wide would help the PS3's monthly sales substantially throught the rest of 2009, and most likely into 2010, wherein the release of GT5 and GOW3 will take over. But as far as the "ZOMG COWEZ DONT CAER ABOT SALES" mudslinging goes, I can't speak for everyone, but I personaly don't care as much for the sales, as I do about people just buying a PS3 so the games sell better, which equal more games, higher quality, and a better/more full online experience. I just want more people to experience the PS3 first hand, rather than playing it over at their friends house for 10 minutes and declaring this and that. But whatever. In the long run, I still think the PS3 will come out ahead of the 360 in sales. But that is several years down the road. I'm talking 6~ years when the PS3 gets discontinued. It might not be by much, but I think it's entirely possible. But then again, I'm no clairvoyant. So I can't tell you anything for certain. At any rate, to think a $100 price drop wouldn't push montly PS3 sales over 360 sales for at least a few months (into the holiday season) is simply foolish. The 2009 holiday season is anyones guess. if GT5 actually does come through with the rumors, and comes out this holiday season, then it's going to be very interesting. If not, then Forza 3 is going to make Sony's holiday sales an uphill battle.. I think.
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#38 clone01
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certainly, a price cut will help. i'm not really sure who'll trump who, sony or 360, though.

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#39 hy4k
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this is a very delusional thread

for starters how they cut the Ps3 by a hundred dollars? and why would they when they're losing so much money? surely profitability is going to be more of a concern then some imaginary console war

sales would definately improve, but not to the point that it'd sell ten million more than the 360 in a year. not even close. andm microsoft has much more room for price cuts than then the ps3 ever will

in terms of support there would be no effect. the ps3 is the most fail console this gen and one of the biggest failures of all time. developers aren't going to be very keen to develop on it if it slightly increases its marketshare. distant third is still distant third

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#40 navyguy21
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It woudlnt put them over MS but it would put a dent in the gap,

But I could care less about sales so..

imaps3fanboy
WTF?? Dude, did you read over that before you clicked submit?? How can it put a dent in the gap if the DONT outsell MS?? :P Have you been drinking?? :P j/k
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#41 mrarmyman48
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this is a very delusional thread

for starters how they cut the Ps3 by a hundred dollars? and why would they when they're losing so much money? surely profitability is going to be more of a concern then some imaginary console war

sales would definately improve, but not to the point that it'd sell ten million more than the 360 in a year. not even close. andm microsoft has much more room for price cuts than then the ps3 ever will

in terms of support there would be no effect. the ps3 is the most fail console this gen and one of the biggest failures of all time. developers aren't going to be very keen to develop on it if it slightly increases its marketshare. distant third is still distant third

hy4k

for one, sony just announced that they reduced its manufacturing costs by 70%, so they will still make money even with a price cut,

2. I think its pretty well understood by everyone that sony is revealing a PS3 slim at Gamescom about a week from now. (in fact, the image in my sig is an official photo)

3.lol, an 8 million lead is "Distant" now? 8 million is FAR from "distant" lol. A 125 million lead however, now THATS distant;)

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#42 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i thought cows didnt care about sales.djsifer01
I dont, some of the cows do though. It makes no sense, you cant play sales so why care?

But if the PS3 were to outsell 360, then you and your fellow cows would care about sales:P
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#43 mrarmyman48
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]i thought cows didnt care about sales.navyguy21
I dont, some of the cows do though. It makes no sense, you cant play sales so why care?

But if the PS3 were to outsell 360, then you and your fellow cows would care about sales:P

and it would be hillarious, beause the Godbox360 would be being outsold by hardware twice its price, while being the only of the 2 at the mass market hotspot price.
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#44 hy4k
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for one, sony just announced that they reduced its manufacturing costs by 70%, so they will still make money even with a price cut,

2. I think its pretty well understood by everyone that sony is revealing a PS3 slim at Gamescom about a week from now. (in fact, the image in my sig is an official photo)

3.lol, an 8 million lead is "Distant" now? 8 million is FAR from "distant" lol. A 125 million lead however, now THATS distant;)

mrarmyman48

yes an 8 million lead is pretty distant when your crappy console has only sold about 20 million and we're three years into the gen i know the ps3 slim is real, i was the first person on here to come up with proof.

i'm also not dumb enough to think they'll be able to reduce the price by 100 dollars on top of having a smaller form factor

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#45 striking_
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It very well could but it also seems that MS is ready to counter with there own price cuts so I doubt the gap will even start to close.

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#46 The__Havoc
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Its going to help the PS3 no doubt but MS is in a prime position to counter the price drop with ease. My guess would be that if PS3 drops price so will 360 and both will benifit from increased sales thus resulting in the PS3 not gaining any headway at all. I wish Sony could get GT5 out with the price drop but I don't think that game is coming out in 2009 Polydigital are the slugs of game development.

All of a sudden though there are like dozens upon dozens of threads talking about price drops, to sales, to marketshare ect. After the NBP I thought that the PS3 fans didn't care about sales? Guess every faction cares about sales.

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#47 masterpinky2000
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As a gamer who already has a 360 and didn't want to drop $400 on another console, I'd be really excited if the PS3's US price cut was something like the UK and got the console down to $299. If not, I'll probably just wait until holiday season 2010...

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#48 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]I dont, some of the cows do though. It makes no sense, you cant play sales so why care?mrarmyman48
But if the PS3 were to outsell 360, then you and your fellow cows would care about sales:P

and it would be hillarious, beause the Godbox360 would be being outsold by hardware twice its price, while being the only of the 2 at the mass market hotspot price.

why do you guys act like the Arcade is the only model on the market?? And the Pro is the best selling model anyway. WTH??
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#49 heretrix
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Sarcasm?

W1NGMAN-

No, realism. But keep the dream alive.

So you don't think a 100 dollar price drop will help improve PS3 sales? Yea ok...:roll:

I really don't care to be honest. I already own one. Besides, we are heading into the 4th year of this gen, so it really doesn't matter. It isn't going to change the game at all except to give a few butt hurt fanboys a reason to brag.

Like I said, keep the dream alive, if thats what matters to ya.

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for one, sony just announced that they reduced its manufacturing costs by 70%, so they will still make money even with a price cut,

2. I think its pretty well understood by everyone that sony is revealing a PS3 slim at Gamescom about a week from now. (in fact, the image in my sig is an official photo)

3.lol, an 8 million lead is "Distant" now? 8 million is FAR from "distant" lol. A 125 million lead however, now THATS distant;)

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yes an 8 million lead is pretty distant when your crappy console has only sold about 20 million and we're three years into the gen i know the ps3 slim is real, i was the first person on here to come up with proof.

i'm also not dumb enough to think they'll be able to reduce the price by 100 dollars on top of having a smaller form factor

the PS3 has sold 24 million in 2 years, in half the time it took the xbox and gamecube, at 3 times the price :lol:

and is still selling at the same rate as hardware half of its price (unless you consider miniscule 20-40k a month NPD leads "distant for a console half the price of its competition, and "teh superior game libarary")