Will Final Fantasy Versus XIII come to 360?

[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.desyple

KH1 and 2 didn't need to go multiplat because they were on the PS2. They wouldn't make the sales on the Xbox or the GC to cover the development cost. The PS2 was also the best choice for just about any company to sell a JRPG in any country.

Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.KrazyKev26

What does it matter? It's a company that makes a decision like this not just a person. If the company feels it's in their best interest to do it mulitplatform than they'll do it.

At the time neither the GC or Xbox were in their scope as platforms to support with much of any content. Your mention of KH 1 and 2 not going multiplatform, is the same as FF X and XII not going either... but now we're seeing a change in that trend with XIII. So what's stoping XIII vs, or KH3 for that matter?

[QUOTE="DeadlyZodiac"]

It's very simple. Square Enix wants to do better in the western market, and everything about Versus XIII appeals more to the western market than the regular FF XIII(action, more modern setting, etc).

Unless Sony writes them a really big check, it's only a matter of time. It just hasn't been announced yet.

ChrnoTrigger

They've always done great in the western market, lol...

I never said they didn't. SE themselves said they wanted to do better in the Western market.

[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.desyple

Really, how so?

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.-RPGamer-

Really, how so?

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.JIT93

Really, how so?

Numera != to all of Square Enix and what they decide to do with their IP. :|

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.-RPGamer-

Really, how so?

Well I always hear on how Square loves money and if they loved money they would've put it on everey possible console they could've and get more money but they didn't seem to do that :| So yes I do think Numera did have an influence on where these went and he wanted them on PS2 only.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.KrazyKev26

Really, how so?

Well I always hear on how Square loves money and if they loved money they would've put it on everey possible console they could've and get more money but they didn't seem to do that :| So yes I do think Numera did have an influence on where these went and he wanted them on PS2 only.

They're doing it more so now aren't they? What things can't change between generations? Lets face it the PS3 doesn't have the same strangle hold on the market as the PSX and PS2 had.

Where these went? I mean let's get one thing straight that last generation SE put almost everything on the PS2, these are nothing special, in fact at the time they were just part of the mold.

Until SE says so no

/thread

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.-RPGamer-

Really, how so?

Numera != to all of Square Enix and what they decide to do with their IP. :|

P↔Q (P if and only if Q) Square is famous because of Numera's works, if the creator of FF quits, then SE will be doomed :|

[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="desyple"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]Ermmm since this guy did do Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, did that go Multiplatform? Nope :| I donno what makes you think that VS 13 will cause hes also doing that one of course :|. And if they end up making a KH3 I bet you it will also be a PS3 exclusive too. I mean if it was a company decision then how come we didn't see KH 1 and 2 on GC or Xbox?:|.-RPGamer-

Really, how so?

Well I always hear on how Square loves money and if they loved money they would've put it on everey possible console they could've and get more money but they didn't seem to do that :| So yes I do think Numera did have an influence on where these went and he wanted them on PS2 only.

They're doing it more so now aren't they? What things can't change between generations? Lets face it the PS3 doesn't have the same strangle hold on the market as the PSX and PS2 had.

Where these went? I mean let's get one thing straight that last generation SE put almost everything on the PS2, these are nothing special, in fact at the time they were just part of the mold.

Until SE says so no

/thread

Iceman2911

Numera created all the great FF that sold well, he is making FFXVIII, SE CAN but its a stupid choice because if it is against his wishes, then he will either find somone else. Here's a simple equation to help you:

P↔Q (P if and only if Q) Square is famous because of Numera's works, if the creator of FF quits, then SE will be doomed :|

JIT93

If he values his company he'll do as they please, not the other way around. And if SE is based on one person as you make it sound than they are already doomed. :|

Director of FFXIII is the guy behind the genious work of FFX-2, since he has no bias against either system, of course he sees nothing wrong with that descision.JIT93

Again this isn't just one person's choice, that is such a flawed view on hwo the industry works. SE isn't just spreading the love with FFXIII. A once heavy Sony supporter is really showing a great deal of divergence.

[QUOTE="JIT93"]

Numera created all the great FF that sold well, he is making FFXVIII, SE CAN but its a stupid choice because if it is against his wishes, then he will either find somone else. Here's a simple equation to help you:

P↔Q (P if and only if Q) Square is famous because of Numera's works, if the creator of FF quits, then SE will be doomed :|

-RPGamer-

If he values his company he'll do as they please, not the other way around. And if SE is based on one person as you make it sound than they are already doomed. :|

A coach wants to put his star player (Because, the other team members aren't that good compared to him and not a fan favorite) to do something against his own will. Either the coach fires the star player, knowing that future games aren't good without him or he quits.

Can't we all just get along here :cry:

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Director of FFXIII is the guy behind the genious work of FFX-2, since he has no bias against either system, of course he sees nothing wrong with that descision.-RPGamer-

Again this isn't just one person's choice, that is such a flawed view on hwo the industry works. SE isn't just spreading the love with FFXIII. A once heavy Sony supporter is really showing a great deal of divergence.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Numera created all the great FF that sold well, he is making FFXVIII, SE CAN but its a stupid choice because if it is against his wishes, then he will either find somone else. Here's a simple equation to help you:

P↔Q (P if and only if Q) Square is famous because of Numera's works, if the creator of FF quits, then SE will be doomed :|

JIT93

If he values his company he'll do as they please, not the other way around. And if SE is based on one person as you make it sound than they are already doomed. :|

A coach wants to put his star player (Because, the other team members aren't that good compared to him and not a fan favorite) to do something against his own will. Either the coach fires the star player, knowing that future games aren't good without him or he quits.

Can't we all just get along here :cry:

Most of what you've talked about consists of a generation where the PS2 couldn't be stopped (and it wasn't). This generation isn't like last. A company and it's employees should think of what's best for the entire company. I agree that a company needs to look after it's best people, but it's best people should also be considering the company. It's a two way thing, and to be honest the worker should put his/her pride aside.

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Numera created all the great FF that sold well, he is making FFXVIII, SE CAN but its a stupid choice because if it is against his wishes, then he will either find somone else. Here's a simple equation to help you:

P↔Q (P if and only if Q) Square is famous because of Numera's works, if the creator of FF quits, then SE will be doomed :|

-RPGamer-

If he values his company he'll do as they please, not the other way around. And if SE is based on one person as you make it sound than they are already doomed. :|

A coach wants to put his star player (Because, the other team members aren't that good compared to him and not a fan favorite) to do something against his own will. Either the coach fires the star player, knowing that future games aren't good without him or he quits.

Can't we all just get along here :cry:

Most of what you've talked about consists of a generation where the PS2 couldn't be stopped (and it wasn't). This generation isn't like last. A company and it's employees should think of what's best for the entire company. I agree that a company needs to look after it's best people, but it's best people should also be considering the company. It's a two way thing, and to be honest the worker should put his/her pride aside.

Are we cool now?

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Director of FFXIII is the guy behind the genious work of FFX-2, since he has no bias against either system, of course he sees nothing wrong with that descision.JIT93

Again this isn't just one person's choice, that is such a flawed view on hwo the industry works. SE isn't just spreading the love with FFXIII. A once heavy Sony supporter is really showing a great deal of divergence.

SE is showing divergence. The company, you know the entire decision making entity.

Tell Numera that :P

Are we cool now?

JIT93

I would but his phone is busy :(

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Director of FFXIII is the guy behind the genious work of FFX-2, since he has no bias against either system, of course he sees nothing wrong with that descision.-RPGamer-

Again this isn't just one person's choice, that is such a flawed view on hwo the industry works. SE isn't just spreading the love with FFXIII. A once heavy Sony supporter is really showing a great deal of divergence.

SE is showing divergence. The company, you know the entire decision making entity.

Oh for a second I thought you were talking about Numera. Well yes they are making their games diverse but wheres the proof that SE was leaning towards Sony?

JIT93

Ummm... how about the fact that almost every console game released for the last two generations was exclusive to Sony? I mean if you want I can list off the dozens of exclusive titles they put out on the PSX and PS2. Wait it would prolly be easier to show how much they focused on Sony if I listed what they didn't put on their console.

Wow.......

After looking through this thread, all I see is a whole bunch of lemmings begging for FF games. You do realize that Microsoft already went and laid down a suitcase of money for FFXIII, don't you think they would have tried to get FFvsXIII as well? Hmmmmmmm.

Secondly, Numera is indeed a Sony fanboy, pure and simple. SE already commented on FFvsXIII's exclusivity after the announcement of FFXIII going multi-plat.

Thirdly, even if they wanted to port FFvsXIII to 360, it would be mid to late 2010 at the earliest. For god sake they even said FFXIII's development on 360 hasen't even started yet and it's not going to until the game is completed and out in Japan. By this time, I would bet money that 360 will be dead and what would be the point of releasing a port of a PS3 game only in the western countries then? None.

It really is funny how many lemmings were doing nothing but bash FF and SE and saying they are way inferior to the western rpg developers a couple years ago, look at em now. ZOMGZWTFBBQ!!!!!!!! We're getting FFXIII!!!!! we're guranteed to get every game from SE from now on!!!!! What happened to all the bashing lemmons? Pretty damn pathetic bunch if you ask me.

[QUOTE="JIT93"]

Oh for a second I thought you were talking about Numera. Well yes they are making their games diverse but wheres the proof that SE was leaning towards Sony?

-RPGamer-

Ummm... how about the fact that almost every console game released for the last two generations was exclusive to Sony? I mean if you want I can list off the dozens of exclusive titles they put out on the PSX and PS2. Wait it would prolly be easier to show how much they focused on Sony if I listed what they didn't put on their console.

Wow.......

After looking through this thread, all I see is a whole bunch of lemmings begging for FF games. You do realize that Microsoft already went and laid down a suitcase of money for FFXIII, don't you think they would have tried to get FFvsXIII as well? Hmmmmmmm.

Secondly, Numera is indeed a Sony fanboy, pure and simple. SE already commented on FFvsXIII's exclusivity after the announcement of FFXIII going multi-plat.

Thirdly, even if they wanted to port FFvsXIII to 360, it would be mid to late 2010 at the earliest. For god sake they even said FFXIII's development on 360 hasen't even started yet and it's not going to until the game is completed and out in Japan. By this time, I would bet money that 360 will be dead and what would be the point of releasing a port of a PS3 game only in the western countries then? None.

It really is funny how many lemmings were doing nothing but bash FF and SE and saying they are way inferior to the western rpg developers a couple years ago, look at em now. ZOMGZWTFBBQ!!!!!!!! We're getting FFXIII!!!!! we're guranteed to get every game from SE from now on!!!!! What happened to all the bashing lemmons? Pretty damn pathetic bunch if you ask me.

alextheman123

Why would it take so long to port a game thats based on an engine that is designed to support multiple systems inherently?

I'm no lemming BTW, just don't see much concrete evidence that they won't try it. I see what I would like to compare to what happened with Nintendo from the SNES to the N64.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Oh for a second I thought you were talking about Numera. Well yes they are making their games diverse but wheres the proof that SE was leaning towards Sony?

JIT93

Ummm... how about the fact that almost every console game released for the last two generations was exclusive to Sony? I mean if you want I can list off the dozens of exclusive titles they put out on the PSX and PS2. Wait it would prolly be easier to show how much they focused on Sony if I listed what they didn't put on their console.

:| Are you for real? As a company SE, or as individual companies, they gave almost every game they made for over a decade to one console maker (ie Sony). That's not subjective judgement, it's objective fact that they supported Sony with almost everything they did. They prefered (as in chose before others) Sony and history shows us that.

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Oh for a second I thought you were talking about Numera. Well yes they are making their games diverse but wheres the proof that SE was leaning towards Sony?

-RPGamer-

Ummm... how about the fact that almost every console game released for the last two generations was exclusive to Sony? I mean if you want I can list off the dozens of exclusive titles they put out on the PSX and PS2. Wait it would prolly be easier to show how much they focused on Sony if I listed what they didn't put on their console.

:| Are you for real? As a company SE, or as individual companies, they gave almost every game they made for over a decade to one console maker (ie Sony). That's not subjective judgement, it's objective fact that they supported Sony with almost everything they did. They prefered (as in chose before others) Sony and history shows us that.

You know as much as it would be up to Sony's head ups to say yes or no to multiplating it RPG-gamer, it's also easy to say Nomura holds big sway when it comes to his projects.

If he walks then they are out a great developers, just like Konami doesn't step on Kojimas toes. We all know what happens when you mess with your lead developers toes "Ninja Gaiden Itagaki creator walked out on Tecmo, along with many other devlopers following in his footsepts."

As easy as it is to assume, Oh the CEO's really get to make the choice it's true they do, but they have to balance the choice that benifits them the most, and loosing one of your big developers is not smart. He will make them Millions more as a employee making massive multi-million selling games than M$ can afford throw a check at.

*edit*

It's also no mystery that SE loved Sony last generation and will probably continue to give them the bulk of games, Sony has saved SE from oblivion as a company things like that don't go forgoten. But Sony has done one or more things to make SE mad at them as well that made them backlash to the competition.

When Final Fantasy 11 was released on the PS2 the HDD for the game was required, and also not much longer after the North American Release of the game was the PS2 slim released that lacked space for the HDD making it so new PS2 owners would be unable to play Final Fantasy XI on there PS2 and SE was outraged at them and turned to there competition on the 360 to get back at Sony. Who knows if there is something behind the screen going on that we don't know about.

Link :|JIT93

You go look up SE releases yourself. I'm not going to list off all there titles or find a location that does (albeit I would think wikipedia would). They prefered Sony, it's fact. :|

[QUOTE="JIT93"]

Link :|-RPGamer-

You go look up SE releases yourself. I'm not going to list off all there titles or find a location that does (albeit I would think wikipedia would). They prefered Sony, it's fact. :|

my post was eatin by the last page let me re-iterate.

It's also no mystery that SE loved Sony last generation and will probably continue to give them the bulk of games, Sony has saved SE from oblivion as a company things like that don't go forgoten. But Sony has done one or more things to make SE mad at them as well that made them backlash to the competition.

When Final Fantasy 11 was released on the PS2 the HDD for the game was required, and also not much longer after the North American Release of the game was the PS2 slim released that lacked space for the HDD making it so new PS2 owners would be unable to play Final Fantasy XI on there PS2 and SE was outraged at them and turned to there competition on the 360 to get back at Sony. Who knows if there is something behind the screen going on that we don't know about.

Sony has done many good things for SE such as help with Spirits within and Advent children and Sony also picked SE back up after Spirits within bombed.

You know as much as it would be up to Sony's head ups to say yes or no to multiplating it RPG-gamer, it's also easy to say Nomura holds big sway when it comes to his projects.

If he walks then they are out a great developers, just like Konami doesn't step on Kojimas toes. We all know what happens when you mess with your lead developers toes "Ninja Gaiden Itagaki creator walked out on Tecmo, along with many other devlopers following in his footsepts."

As easy as it is to assume, Oh the CEO's really get to make the choice it's true they do, but they have to balance the choice that benifits them the most, and loosing one of your big developers is not smart. He will make them Millions more as a employee making massive multi-million selling games than M$ can afford throw a check at.

Jynxzor

I didn't say he had no say in the matter. I'm saying it's not really his choice. We're making so big assumptions here. That he would leave if his title did happen to go multiplatform is pretty big in itself.

[QUOTE="alextheman123"]

Wow.......

After looking through this thread, all I see is a whole bunch of lemmings begging for FF games. You do realize that Microsoft already went and laid down a suitcase of money for FFXIII, don't you think they would have tried to get FFvsXIII as well? Hmmmmmmm.

Secondly, Numera is indeed a Sony fanboy, pure and simple. SE already commented on FFvsXIII's exclusivity after the announcement of FFXIII going multi-plat.

Thirdly, even if they wanted to port FFvsXIII to 360, it would be mid to late 2010 at the earliest. For god sake they even said FFXIII's development on 360 hasen't even started yet and it's not going to until the game is completed and out in Japan. By this time, I would bet money that 360 will be dead and what would be the point of releasing a port of a PS3 game only in the western countries then? None.

It really is funny how many lemmings were doing nothing but bash FF and SE and saying they are way inferior to the western rpg developers a couple years ago, look at em now. ZOMGZWTFBBQ!!!!!!!! We're getting FFXIII!!!!! we're guranteed to get every game from SE from now on!!!!! What happened to all the bashing lemmons? Pretty damn pathetic bunch if you ask me.

-RPGamer-

Why would it take so long to port a game thats based on an engine that is designed to support multiple systems inherently?

I'm no lemming BTW, just don't see much concrete evidence that they won't try it. I see what I would like to compare to what happened with Nintendo from the SNES to the N64.

The port part isn't about how long it would take but rather the fact that FFXIII is the only game they can judge anything off of in terms of other FF games going to 360 and when FFXIII itself actually comes out in late 2009, do the math. Wait a few months to see how it does on the 360, start the porting process which would tack on another 6 months...mid to late 2010.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Link :|JIT93

You go look up SE releases yourself. I'm not going to list off all there titles or find a location that does (albeit I would think wikipedia would). They prefered Sony, it's fact. :|

No, it's not coincidence. It's a proven preference. Wait now it's love? Keep reaching why don't you? :| Give me a damn break, it's obvious SE (or S and E) preferred Sony for two generations.

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"]

Link :|-RPGamer-

You go look up SE releases yourself. I'm not going to list off all there titles or find a location that does (albeit I would think wikipedia would). They prefered Sony, it's fact. :|

No, it's not coincidence. It's a proven preference. Wait now it's love? Keep reaching why don't you? :| Give me a damn break, it's obvious SE (or S and E) preferred Sony for two generations.

The port part isn't about how long it would take but rather the fact that FFXIII is the only game they can judge anything off of in terms of other FF games going to 360 and when FFXIII itself actually comes out in late 2009, do the math. Wait a few months to see how it does on the 360, start the porting process which would tack on another 6 months...mid to late 2010.

alextheman123

Based on what we know now that time line seems to make some sense, albeit without the "prolly will be dead" that you mentioned before. Still not seeing why this would limit it's portability.

Okay, can you give me a link now?JIT93

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Okay, can you give me a link now?-RPGamer-

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

[QUOTE="alextheman123"]

The port part isn't about how long it would take but rather the fact that FFXIII is the only game they can judge anything off of in terms of other FF games going to 360 and when FFXIII itself actually comes out in late 2009, do the math. Wait a few months to see how it does on the 360, start the porting process which would tack on another 6 months...mid to late 2010.

-RPGamer-

Based on what we know now that time line seems to make some sense, albeit without the "prolly will be dead" that you mentioned before. Still not seeing why this would limit it's portability.

Well, Microsoft didn't really support the Xbox at all when the 360 came out, Sony on the other hand is still supporting the ps2. If Microsoft starts going on about their next system in the next year to year and a half (which I have strong belief they will seeing as how the 360 has been out a year longer then the PS3 and Wii), all hype will die for the 360 and will move right on to the next console. If Microsoft does the same to the 360 that they did to the Xbox, it would be pretty risky porting the game at that point.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Okay, can you give me a link now?JIT93

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

Here's the definition(s) of prefer... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prefer

Take note of "select as an alternative over another", or "choose rather than". As in if SE (or S and E) prefered Sony than in the past we would see that the majority of their games were placed by choice (or selected) to go on Sony's PSX and PS2. So does the past show this preference? Yup it sure does.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_games

Definitely.

SE is an a Bad financial situation.

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Okay, can you give me a link now?-RPGamer-

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

Here's the definition(s) of prefer... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prefer

Take note of "select as an alternative over another", or "choose rather than". As in if SE (or S and E) prefered Sony than in the past we would see that the majority of their games were placed by choice (or selected) to go on Sony's PSX and PS2. So does the past show this preference? Yup it sure does.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_games

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="alextheman123"]

The port part isn't about how long it would take but rather the fact that FFXIII is the only game they can judge anything off of in terms of other FF games going to 360 and when FFXIII itself actually comes out in late 2009, do the math. Wait a few months to see how it does on the 360, start the porting process which would tack on another 6 months...mid to late 2010.

alextheman123

Based on what we know now that time line seems to make some sense, albeit without the "prolly will be dead" that you mentioned before. Still not seeing why this would limit it's portability.

Well, Microsoft didn't really support the Xbox at all when the 360 came out, Sony on the other hand is still supporting the ps2. If Microsoft starts going on about their next system in the next year to year and a half (which I have strong belief they will seeing as how the 360 has been out a year longer then the PS3 and Wii), all hype will die for the 360 and will move right on to the next console. If Microsoft does the same to the 360 that they did to the Xbox, it would be pretty risky porting the game at that point.

There's no trend to base MS support from here on out though, since only one instance exists. Sony has two existing instances which is still a poor trend but at least could be possibly used to prove trend.

I agree if they do the same than yes it's risky, just putting out there that they may not do the same thing it's hard to tell.

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[QUOTE="JIT93"] Okay, can you give me a link now?JIT93

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

Here's the definition(s) of prefer... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prefer

Take note of "select as an alternative over another", or "choose rather than". As in if SE (or S and E) prefered Sony than in the past we would see that the majority of their games were placed by choice (or selected) to go on Sony's PSX and PS2. So does the past show this preference? Yup it sure does.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_games

They don't need to say it (and I won't look to see if they did). The evidence was provided before you with two links, if you can put two and two together thats your problem and not mine. Honestly I don't see how you couldn't, it's really a question of common sense at this point but I regress...

[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"][QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="JIT93"] Okay, can you give me a link now?-RPGamer-

OK, can you give me a viable argument? Maybe if you said something worth giving a link I would bother providing a link. Or maybe I should link you to the definition of the word preference, and then link a list of titles they released during the last decade. Then maybe you could put two and two together. Would that help you? I mean hell that would be two links, that would be going above beyond what you asked for. ;)

Here's the definition(s) of prefer... http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prefer

Take note of "select as an alternative over another", or "choose rather than". As in if SE (or S and E) prefered Sony than in the past we would see that the majority of their games were placed by choice (or selected) to go on Sony's PSX and PS2. So does the past show this preference? Yup it sure does.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_games

They don't need to say it (and I won't look to see if they did). The evidence was provided before you with two links, if you can put two and two together thats your problem and not mine. Honestly I don't see how you couldn't, it's really a question of common sense at this point but I regress...

But you are using your judgment, not common sense, that is not evidence, its just a definition and a list of games. Square needs to say it themselves, then it is official. Honestly, I don't see how you couldn't, it's really a question of common sense at this point :|JIT93

No. I'm not judging the past and definitions (the only thing I'm judging at this point is the person that thinks that SE didn't prefer Sony for two generations).

The past and what SE released and for what console is fact, and was provided in a link.

The definition of preference is fact and was provided in a link as well.

Square Enix doesn't need to say anything, ever hear of the saying "actions speak louder than words"? Further more here's a question for you. If SE to you (and let's make this very clear that it's your beliefs on this) didn't prefer Sony than who did they and what proof do you have to show?

Oh and your witty copy and paste was just great, LOL :lol:

[QUOTE="JIT93"] But you are using your judgment, not common sense, that is not evidence, its just a definition and a list of games. Square needs to say it themselves, then it is official. Honestly, I don't see how you couldn't, it's really a question of common sense at this point :|-RPGamer-

No. I'm not judging the past and definitions (the only thing I'm judging at this point is the person that thinks that SE didn't prefer Sony for two generations).

The past and what SE released and for what console is fact, and was provided in a link.

The definition of preference is fact and was provided in a link as well.

Square Enix doesn't need to say anything, ever hear of the saying "actions speak louder than words"? Further more here's a question for you. If SE to you (and let's make this very clear that it's your beliefs on this) didn't prefer Sony than who did they and what proof do you have to show?

Oh and your witty copy and paste was just great, LOL :lol:

What would you say right now if I wasn't serious in the last couple of post :|