Will Forza 4 be better than Gran Turismo 5?

The only thing holding Forza back from being the perfect game is Drag Racing...

I'm glad Forza 3 included it but it was all wrong...the tires didnt stick or anything, so most FWD or RWD cars had awful times even if they had EVERYTHING done to them. The best time I ran (best tires, suspension etc) with my 600hp 350z was a 12.8 LOL.

SRTtoZ

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

The only thing holding Forza back from being the perfect game is Drag Racing...

I'm glad Forza 3 included it but it was all wrong...the tires didnt stick or anything, so most FWD or RWD cars had awful times even if they had EVERYTHING done to them. The best time I ran (best tires, suspension etc) with my 600hp 350z was a 12.8 LOL.

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

The only thing holding Forza back from being the perfect game is Drag Racing...

I'm glad Forza 3 included it but it was all wrong...the tires didnt stick or anything, so most FWD or RWD cars had awful times even if they had EVERYTHING done to them. The best time I ran (best tires, suspension etc) with my 600hp 350z was a 12.8 LOL.

heretrix

But then again,I´m a F1 fanboy. :P

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

The only thing holding Forza back from being the perfect game is Drag Racing...

I'm glad Forza 3 included it but it was all wrong...the tires didnt stick or anything, so most FWD or RWD cars had awful times even if they had EVERYTHING done to them. The best time I ran (best tires, suspension etc) with my 600hp 350z was a 12.8 LOL.

heretrix

I haven't seen any, so I'm inclined to believe it's also missing NASCAR, but that's wonderful thing :D

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] It's also lacking F1, GP2 and I've not seen any Rally.. if it had that, then it'd be perfect. Inconsistancy

I haven't seen any, so I'm inclined to believe it's also missing NASCAR, but that's wonderful thing :D

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] It's also lacking F1, GP2 and I've not seen any Rally.. if it had that, then it'd be perfect. Inconsistancy

I haven't seen any, so I'm inclined to believe it's also missing NASCAR, but that's wonderful thing :D

Forza 3 is already a better game than Gran Turismo 5.

lol

I'll be surprised if it isn't better.

Obviously, it's got the visuals, and it'll probably have the content. The main clincher for me is whether the driving model is as good as GT5's. Forza 3 was better in most ways than GT5, but I preferred GT5's driving model which is the most important part to me. Perhaps Forza 4 can improve on that.

broken_bass_bin

It's amazing FM3 was better than GT5 even with GT5 having the best driving model / physics

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

The only thing holding Forza back from being the perfect game is Drag Racing...

I'm glad Forza 3 included it but it was all wrong...the tires didnt stick or anything, so most FWD or RWD cars had awful times even if they had EVERYTHING done to them. The best time I ran (best tires, suspension etc) with my 600hp 350z was a 12.8 LOL.

heretrix

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

Man the lack of GT5 fanboys in this thread is disappointing. I was hoping they would come out with their usual illogical opinions. MrGrimFandango

You think making up all that crap is easy? Cut them some slack, man.

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[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] It's also lacking F1, GP2 and I've not seen any Rally.. if it had that, then it'd be perfect. Blinblingthing

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I'm glad it doesn't have all that. it's one of the reasons GT5 took too long to develop and was a mess at launch. Too much crap. The reason Forza does such a great job is that they tend to focus on a specific style of racing rather than trying to cram a bunch of stuff in the game for bulletpoints on the box.

The_Game21x

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

Thanks for YOUR opinion. Do note it isn't fact.

Good products tend to appeal to wider audiences.

No need to downplay them by calling them half done.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

Blinblingthing

Thanks for YOUR opinion. Do note it isn't fact.

Good products tend to appeal to wider audiences.

No need to downplay them by calling them half done.

Forza 3 IS better than GT5 so that should answer your question. Turn 10 have set the bar as far as racing games on consoles go, anything Polyphony does must at the very least match up to Turn 10's standard or its an automatic fail. So far there has been no answer to the great franchise that is Forza.

Deevoshun

Forza 3's physics are nearly on GT5's level. So what are you really trying to imply?

It is not even going to be a close race. GT5 is a flawed game that focused too much on the trees and not enough on the forest. Forza 4 is going to great car porn/eye candy but it is also going to a lot more fun to play.

GT5 isn't even the competition, FM3 is. GT5 was pretty lame to be honest, most cars aren't even premium. (Why wouldn't Veyron be premium?)MrGrimFandango

Nice way to look at that issue, However another way to look at it, Is why didn't Forza 3 ship with some of the cars GT5 came with?

The 07 GTR etc?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

Blinblingthing

Thanks for YOUR opinion. Do note it isn't fact.

Good products tend to appeal to wider audiences.

No need to downplay them by calling them half done.

Umm...of course it was my opinion. Do I need to write "IMO" after everything that I say? :?

And, I'm sorry, but considering that Nascar didn't support the full 30+ car fields, was only really featured in one or two events and that special "training school" thing, and rally was given similar treatment, I don't see how you could see it as anything but half assed. But whatever, if you believe they were fully realized, more power to you.

To me, Forza 3 is the more complete and more fully realized racing experience. It may not include things like Nascar or Rally but what it does, it does well.

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GT5 isn't even the competition, FM3 is. GT5 was pretty lame to be honest, most cars aren't even premium. (Why wouldn't Veyron be premium?)Blinblingthing

Nice way to look at that issue, However another way to look at it, Is why didn't Forza 3 ship with some of the cars GT5 came with?

The 07 GTR etc?

Are we really doing this?

Why doesn't GT have as many Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Mercedes-Benzes and Aston Martins as Forza 3?

Hell, why doesn't GT5 have any Porsche vehicles while Forza 3 has about 30 of them?

Need I go on?

It is not even going to be a close race. GT5 is a flawed game that focused too much on the trees and not enough on the forest. Forza 4 is going to great car porn/eye candy but it is also going to a lot more fun to play.

GojiMaster

Forza 4 having better car models? would love to see that. Running 1080p and now 16 cars on track.

There are things Forza 3 out did GT5 on

More consistent frame rate, Less tearing etc etc

But its sad when people go Forza 3 Blew GT5 out of the water.

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]GT5 isn't even the competition, FM3 is. GT5 was pretty lame to be honest, most cars aren't even premium. (Why wouldn't Veyron be premium?)The_Game21x

Nice way to look at that issue, However another way to look at it, Is why didn't Forza 3 ship with some of the cars GT5 came with?

The 07 GTR etc?

Are we really doing this?

Why doesn't GT have as many Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Mercedes-Benzes and Aston Martins as Forza 3?

Hell, why doesn't GT5 have any Porsche vehicles while Forza 3 has about 30 of them?

Need I go on?

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Nice way to look at that issue, However another way to look at it, Is why didn't Forza 3 ship with some of the cars GT5 came with?

The 07 GTR etc?

Blinblingthing

Are we really doing this?

Why doesn't GT have as many Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Mercedes-Benzes and Aston Martins as Forza 3?

Hell, why doesn't GT5 have any Porsche vehicles while Forza 3 has about 30 of them?

Need I go on?

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

GT5 didn't set the bar nor the standard for it to be the "one to beat"

Anyone who isn't an extreme fanboy would find the end result of GT5 a disappointment among it's prolonged development time.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] It's also lacking F1, GP2 and I've not seen any Rally.. if it had that, then it'd be perfect. Blinblingthing

At the end of the DAy, Forza 3 lacks content compred to GT5.

Nice reversal attempt though.

Probably. I used to be a huge GT fan until 5. I'm waiting to see if Forza can replace the pain I felt.

Well GT5 was a big disappointment in my eyes so unless Forza 4 is a disaster it'll be better.

Only thing I'd like to see in Forza is more options for wheel support. But Forza4 is looking great. A step ahead of GT5 in my opinion, but makes sense since it will have been a year. Also Turn10 seems to have been progressing faster than Polyphony. EmperorSupreme

I'm gonna form the best car club ever.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Nice way to look at that issue, However another way to look at it, Is why didn't Forza 3 ship with some of the cars GT5 came with?

The 07 GTR etc?

Blinblingthing

Are we really doing this?

Why doesn't GT have as many Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Mercedes-Benzes and Aston Martins as Forza 3?

Hell, why doesn't GT5 have any Porsche vehicles while Forza 3 has about 30 of them?

Need I go on?

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

800+ PS2 era (gt4) cars, it's really just over 200 cars, and Most of them are Skylines, infact EVERY Skyline to ever exist is in the game. And VW Camper Van thing is a premium, yet the Veyron is standard. it's a joke. Not to mention Laguna Seca being also just lifted out of GT4.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

Inconsistancy

Correction, It DOES have better physics
The laptimes inGT5 and Real life are closer for that very reason.

That to me and any REAL driving nut that makes or breaks the the better game argument.

My brother was telling me once of how they were talking about Forza 3 vs GT5 when playing over PSN.

Someone was mentioning a few things of what Forza 3 did better than GT5. But what they kept telling him was hey, that has nothing to do with the driving part of they game so they don't care about it. All that Auction house, The cool paint jobs, all the cross game chat etc doesn't make Forza 3's driving experience better any day of the week than what GT5 offers

Hence, GT5 wins in my book. I am not surprized anyone that picked Forza 3 didn't dare speak about physics or Driving experience seeing they didn't want their beloved Forza shown is a not so good light.

I do however guess I am in the wrong thread, TC never asked which of the two a better driving Simulator.........

is Dos Equis the most Interesting man in the world?

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

Blinblingthing

That's not my fault. Turn 10 got the license just fine. Given Polyphony Digital's reputation in the auto industry, I don't see why they couldn't either.

GT5 contained 800+ cars that were simply ported over from PS2 versions of the game with little or no enhancements...I'm sure you've seen the pictures of how bad some of those standard cars can be so I'm not going to bother posting them here again.

Forza arguably has more of the "dream cars" that people lust after. GT5 has more Civics, Skylines and Lancer Evolutions and...of course, the illustrious Daihatsu Midget.

Sure, Forza and GT have cars that the other series lacks but overall, Forza 3's car lineup is superior. At least in my opinion.

MrGrimFandango

So all they did in 4 or so years was making premium cars? What about F1, Rally, Nascar and Go Karts?

Getting 16 cars on track vs 8 etc. Getting sounds and photography for different cars and tracks?

It takes alot to make a car premium. To expect all 1000 cars premium is too much

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

800+ PS2 era (gt4) cars, it's really just over 200 cars, and Most of them are Skylines, infact EVERY Skyline to ever exist is in the game. And VW Camper Van thing is a premium, yet the Veyron is standard. it's a joke. Not to mention Laguna Seca being also just lifted out of GT4.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

Blinblingthing

Correction, It DOES have better physics
The laptimes inGT5 and Real life are closer for that very reason.

That to me and any REAL driving nut that makes or breaks the the better game argument.

My brother was telling me once of how they were talking about Forza 3 vs GT5 when playing over PSN.

Someone was mentioning a few things of what Forza 3 did better than GT5. But what they kept telling him was hey, that has nothing to do with the driving part of they game so they don't care about it. All that Auction house, The cool paint jobs, all the cross game chat etc doesn't make Forza 3's driving experience better any day of the week than what GT5 offers

Hence, GT5 wins in my book. I am not surprized anyone that picked Forza 3 didn't dare speak about physics or Driving experience seeing they didn't want their beloved Forza shown is a not so good light.

I do however guess I am in the wrong thread, TC never asked which of the two a better driving Simulator.........

Oh here we go with this again. :roll:

The comparison that I know you're referencing was not, is not and cannot be an objective comparison of the two game's physics, period.

The physics of the two games are so close together that it really can (and does) go either way. Parading around in Forza threads as if GT5's physics are factually superior is wrong as there is no objective proof to back up your statement.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

800+ PS2 era (gt4) cars, it's really just over 200 cars, and Most of them are Skylines, infact EVERY Skyline to ever exist is in the game. And VW Camper Van thing is a premium, yet the Veyron is standard. it's a joke. Not to mention Laguna Seca being also just lifted out of GT4.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

Blinblingthing

Correction, It DOES have better physics
The laptimes in GT5 and Real life are closer for that very reason.

That to me and any REAL driving nut that makes or breaks the the better game argument.

My brother was telling me once of how they were talking about Forza 3 vs GT5 when playing over PSN.

Someone was mentioning a few things of what Forza 3 did better than GT5. But what they kept telling him was hey, that has nothing to do with the driving part of they game so they don't care about it. All that Auction house, The cool paint jobs, all the cross game chat etc doesn't make Forza 3's driving experience better any day of the week than what GT5 offers

Hence, GT5 wins in my book. I am not surprized anyone that picked Forza 3 didn't dare speak about physics or Driving experience seeing they didn't want their beloved Forza shown is a not so good light.

I do however guess I am in the wrong thread, TC never asked which of the two a better driving Simulator.........

no.

Forza is arcadey. yo say it is a sim is just a total joke.

I remember the days when this argument was like completely reversed :P

And all you heard was talk of how much better GT5 was than everything that did and ever would exist...

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

The_Game21x

That's not my fault. Turn 10 got the license just fine. Given Polyphony Digital's reputation in the auto industry, I don't see why they couldn't either.

GT5 contained 800+ cars that were simply ported over from PS2 versions of the game with little or no enhancements...I'm sure you've seen the pictures of how bad some of those standard cars can be so I'm not going to bother posting them here again.

Forza arguably has more of the "dream cars" that people lust after. GT5 has more Civics, Skylines and Lancer Evolutions and...of course, the illustrious Daihatsu Midget.

Sure, Forza and GT have cars that the other series lacks but overall, Forza 3's car lineup is superior. At least in my opinion.

Your Opinion.

I for one would want a GTR. and if I had to Chose Would take a GTR 2012 over a an Italia 458 any day.

The Ferrari is a Great car and would be one of my dream cars, But I prefer a GTR. Even if you looked at money spent on a GTR and on a any one of the ferrerari model you'll see people prefer GTRs.

But hey that's apples and oranges. my nose vs your nose. Both different.

I prefer what GT brings more.

I remember the days when this argument was like completely reversed :P

And all you heard was talk of how much better GT5 was than everything that did and ever would exist...

Buttons1990

Yeah, and then the actual game came out. :D

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

800+ PS2 era (gt4) cars, it's really just over 200 cars, and Most of them are Skylines, infact EVERY Skyline to ever exist is in the game. And VW Camper Van thing is a premium, yet the Veyron is standard. it's a joke. Not to mention Laguna Seca being also just lifted out of GT4.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

marklarmer

Correction, It DOES have better physics
The laptimes in GT5 and Real life are closer for that very reason.

That to me and any REAL driving nut that makes or breaks the the better game argument.

My brother was telling me once of how they were talking about Forza 3 vs GT5 when playing over PSN.

Someone was mentioning a few things of what Forza 3 did better than GT5. But what they kept telling him was hey, that has nothing to do with the driving part of they game so they don't care about it. All that Auction house, The cool paint jobs, all the cross game chat etc doesn't make Forza 3's driving experience better any day of the week than what GT5 offers

Hence, GT5 wins in my book. I am not surprized anyone that picked Forza 3 didn't dare speak about physics or Driving experience seeing they didn't want their beloved Forza shown is a not so good light.

I do however guess I am in the wrong thread, TC never asked which of the two a better driving Simulator.........

Is there something you know that you'd like to share? Or are you guessing praying and hoping there is some chance Forza 3's times are more accurate?

I do know that I did promise a comparison of the Two, I'll make a video NOW and put it on youtube

Skyline GTR R34 on Tsukuba

We'll compare to what time the car actually did on Best motoring.

Both suck for not being in the cloud.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Not sure if GT5 should add Porsches to the game with out the license.

You missed the point. GT5 came with 1000+ cars. Forza 3 with about 500

Forza 3 lacked cars GT5 had.

MrGrimFandango came in about GT5 not have the Veyron as premium, So I am countering that Forza 3 came lacking cars GT5 had.

The point is that his argument work both ways. So he shouldn't focus on GT not having car X but Forza ha it.

Blinblingthing

That's not my fault. Turn 10 got the license just fine. Given Polyphony Digital's reputation in the auto industry, I don't see why they couldn't either.

GT5 contained 800+ cars that were simply ported over from PS2 versions of the game with little or no enhancements...I'm sure you've seen the pictures of how bad some of those standard cars can be so I'm not going to bother posting them here again.

Forza arguably has more of the "dream cars" that people lust after. GT5 has more Civics, Skylines and Lancer Evolutions and...of course, the illustrious Daihatsu Midget.

Sure, Forza and GT have cars that the other series lacks but overall, Forza 3's car lineup is superior. At least in my opinion.

Your Opinion.

I for one would want a GTR. and if I had to Chose Would take a GTR 2012 over a an Italia 458 any day.

The Ferrari is a Great car and would be one of my dream cars, But I prefer a GTR. Even if you looked at money spent on a GTR and on a any one of the ferrerari model you'll see people prefer GTRs.

But hey that's apples and oranges. my nose vs your nose. Both different.

I prefer what GT brings more.

Again, do I have to write IMO after everything I say? Geez...here I was thinking it was obvious that I was expressing my opinion.

Fantastic, I'm happy that you prefer GT5 but I have both and I prefer Forza 3. I have the GTR Spec-V in Forza 3. I'm quite pleased with that, as well as my Carerra GT, 599XX, Ferrari FXX, 911 GT2, Gallardo Superleggera.

Anyway, back on topic, I can't wait for Forza 4...it's gonna take the bar set by Forza 3 and push it even higher! :D

the epic latdown that was gt5 could really be fixed if they released a bunch of DLC. But it does not seem like they are going to do that/ SO gt5 will continue to be a letdown. Think im gonna play burnout instead, cause it doesnt feel like a 50% finished game.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

800+ PS2 era (gt4) cars, it's really just over 200 cars, and Most of them are Skylines, infact EVERY Skyline to ever exist is in the game. And VW Camper Van thing is a premium, yet the Veyron is standard. it's a joke. Not to mention Laguna Seca being also just lifted out of GT4.

It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game, by a wide margine.

Blinblingthing

Correction, It DOES have better physics
The laptimes inGT5 and Real life are closer for that very reason.

That to me and any REAL driving nut that makes or breaks the the better game argument.

My brother was telling me once of how they were talking about Forza 3 vs GT5 when playing over PSN.

Someone was mentioning a few things of what Forza 3 did better than GT5. But what they kept telling him was hey, that has nothing to do with the driving part of they game so they don't care about it. All that Auction house, The cool paint jobs, all the cross game chat etc doesn't make Forza 3's driving experience better any day of the week than what GT5 offers

Hence, GT5 wins in my book. I am not surprized anyone that picked Forza 3 didn't dare speak about physics or Driving experience seeing they didn't want their beloved Forza shown is a not so good light.

I do however guess I am in the wrong thread, TC never asked which of the two a better driving Simulator.........

"It may have better physics, and had a much bigger budget, but it's the inferior game" =/= "It may or may not have better..."

It may have *** ,=AND it had ***, what it is.
What it has--------------------------..what it is.

"SSDs May Have Flash But Western Digital Bets 4.3B on Disks" (headline from a random google search) An example of 'May' not = 'May or may not'.

There's no need for correction.

I don't even own a 360, thanks for implying that I was defending it out of fanboyism and owning it, it's the suprerior game. Game =/= sim, GT5 is a superior SIM, an INFERIOR game.

I remember the days when this argument was like completely reversed :P

And all you heard was talk of how much better GT5 was than everything that did and ever would exist...

Buttons1990

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

That's not my fault. Turn 10 got the license just fine. Given Polyphony Digital's reputation in the auto industry, I don't see why they couldn't either.

GT5 contained 800+ cars that were simply ported over from PS2 versions of the game with little or no enhancements...I'm sure you've seen the pictures of how bad some of those standard cars can be so I'm not going to bother posting them here again.

Forza arguably has more of the "dream cars" that people lust after. GT5 has more Civics, Skylines and Lancer Evolutions and...of course, the illustrious Daihatsu Midget.

Sure, Forza and GT have cars that the other series lacks but overall, Forza 3's car lineup is superior. At least in my opinion.

The_Game21x

Your Opinion.

I for one would want a GTR. and if I had to Chose Would take a GTR 2012 over a an Italia 458 any day.

The Ferrari is a Great car and would be one of my dream cars, But I prefer a GTR. Even if you looked at money spent on a GTR and on a any one of the ferrerari model you'll see people prefer GTRs.

But hey that's apples and oranges. my nose vs your nose. Both different.

I prefer what GT brings more.

Again, do I have to write IMO after everything I say? Geez...here I was thinking it was obvious that I was expressing my opinion.

Fantastic, I'm happy that you prefer GT5 but I have both and I prefer Forza 3. I have the GTR Spec-V in Forza 3. I'm quite pleased with that, as well as my Carerra GT, 599XX, Ferrari FXX, 911 GT2, Gallardo Superleggera.

Anyway, back on topic, I can't wait for Forza 4...it's gonna take the bar set by Forza 3 and push it even higher! :D

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"]

Your Opinion.

I for one would want a GTR. and if I had to Chose Would take a GTR 2012 over a an Italia 458 any day.

The Ferrari is a Great car and would be one of my dream cars, But I prefer a GTR. Even if you looked at money spent on a GTR and on a any one of the ferrerari model you'll see people prefer GTRs.

But hey that's apples and oranges. my nose vs your nose. Both different.

I prefer what GT brings more.

racing1750

Again, do I have to write IMO after everything I say? Geez...here I was thinking it was obvious that I was expressing my opinion.

Fantastic, I'm happy that you prefer GT5 but I have both and I prefer Forza 3. I have the GTR Spec-V in Forza 3. I'm quite pleased with that, as well as my Carerra GT, 599XX, Ferrari FXX, 911 GT2, Gallardo Superleggera.

Anyway, back on topic, I can't wait for Forza 4...it's gonna take the bar set by Forza 3 and push it even higher! :D

Just did a 1:03:*** in a 370 Z in Forza 3