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#1 YoshiYogurt
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Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

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And yet it still sells incredibly well and leads in attachment.
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#3 YoshiYogurt
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And yet it still sells incredibly well and leads in attachment.MBirdy88
Can multiplats sell a system alone? I don't think so.
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Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

YoshiYogurt
Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.
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#5 navyguy21
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This gen, they are fine. Next gen? They hired Phil Spencer, he will recruit new talent and first party devs/games as he did with Sony. You cant be that naive to think that MS will continue next gen with no new IPs and games. They had tons to begin this gen, they will have tons next gen. Anyone who isnt a fanboy can at least understand that.
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#6 lundy86_4
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They have plenty of games. What they've proven is that offering an enticing system with few exclusives (in terms of later years) wins out against systems offering more exclusives.

Will this work through the next gen? I have no idea. However they've shown that bringing in exclusive DLC or timed DLC/expansions helps greatly along with a great multimedia system.

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#7 Gue1
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MS has the US in its pocket and that's what matter because software sales will always be high.

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#8 ElephantSwag
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]This gen, they are fine. Next gen? They hired Phil Spencer, he will recruit new talent and first party devs/games as he did with Sony. You cant be that naive to think that MS will continue next gen with no new IPs and games. They had tons to begin this gen, they will have tons next gen. Anyone who isnt a fanboy can at least understand that.

This, OP it sounds like you are trying to stir up fanboys if you are so worried just paly a diffrent system it should be no skin off your back
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#9 santoron
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Can multiplats sell a system alone? I don't think so. YoshiYogurt

Isn't that exactly what you're claiming is happening with the 360? Like, right now?

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]This gen, they are fine. Next gen? They hired Phil Spencer, he will recruit new talent and first party devs/games as he did with Sony. You cant be that naive to think that MS will continue next gen with no new IPs and games. They had tons to begin this gen, they will have tons next gen. Anyone who isnt a fanboy can at least understand that.

Wow common sense is rare in system wars. It's good to know its still out there.
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#11 Michael0134567
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I'm pretty sure I have many other games that don't include Halo,Gears,or Forza in the title.Man,the fanboys on here.

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#12 psymon100
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I share YoshiYogurt's concerns about the lack of upcoming releases for the 360 platform. The launch date of the "720" is still an unknown, so I guess all anyone can do is cross their fingers that MS will come to the party with some great launch titles. I'm not holding my breath for Nintendo, Sony or MS though. Any of them could be awesome, and of them could fail miserably. Wii U will be first out that gate, it will be interesting.

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MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

todd2r

Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.

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#15 GreenGoblin2099
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TC is jellyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

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#16 YoshiYogurt
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I'm pretty sure I have many other games that don't include Halo,Gears,or Forza in the title.Man,the fanboys on here.

Michael0134567
Yea, but those aren't exclusives. I get my multiplats on PC, why should I buy a 360(now) or a 720 later I want unique games?
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#17 YoshiYogurt
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TC is jellyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

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I wish I had a ps3.
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#18 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I'm pretty sure I have many other games that don't include Halo,Gears,or Forza in the title.Man,the fanboys on here.

YoshiYogurt
Yea, but those aren't exclusives. I get my multiplats on PC, why should I buy a 360(now) or a 720 later I want unique games?

Oh so you know my complete game collection?
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

todd2r

Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.

:cool:

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

TC is jellyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

YoshiYogurt
I wish I had a ps3.

I wish I had a ps3, too :(
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

TC is jellyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

YoshiYogurt

I wish I had a ps3.

What else would you be jelly of?? a 360?? lol!!!!

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#22 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="todd2r"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

ispeakfact
Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.

He doesn't even try anymore :|
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#23 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"][QUOTE="todd2r"] Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.

He doesn't even try anymore :|

It's ok Ole' Abe got a lil wacko after the stress of the civil war and has sought comfort in Sony gaming
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MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

joel_c17
Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008
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#25 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="joel_c17"]

MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

StatusShuffle
Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now
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#26 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

He doesn't even try anymore :|

It's ok Ole' Abe got a lil wacko after the stress of the civil war and has sought comfort in Sony gaming

The only real comfort comes from sony :) :) :) :) :)
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[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="joel_c17"]

MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

YoshiYogurt
Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

Lol so because you're not interested in it,it doesn't count?
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#28 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] He doesn't even try anymore :|

It's ok Ole' Abe got a lil wacko after the stress of the civil war and has sought comfort in Sony gaming

The only real comfort comes from sony :) :) :) :) :)

Just dug up my ps1 I had from ages 3-8 when the laser failed. I recently replaced it, and I'm about to order some GOOD games like Crash and MGS. The only good games I had were Rayman and the original Spyro trilogy.
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#29 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

Lol so because you're not interested in it,it doesn't count?

Lems act like that ALL the time.
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#30 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

Lol so because you're not interested in it,it doesn't count?

Lems act like that ALL the time.

Well,don't look at me.
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Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will getYoshiYogurt

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

Lol so because you're not interested in it,it doesn't count?

Lems act like that ALL the time.

That is some faulty logic haha. So you are going to use the same examples that people your against use and are mad at them for using it?
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will getdarkdude2k12

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will getYoshiYogurt

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

The Wii has 3x the multiplats?
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#35 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

Michael0134567
Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

Yes.
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#36 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

Michael0134567
Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

I meant exclusives. The wii has no multiplats lol.
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#37 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

I meant exclusives. The wii has no multiplats lol.

What do you mean it has 3x 360 games.
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#38 StatusShuffle
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[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="joel_c17"]

MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

YoshiYogurt
Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

If you only play 9+ games I guess your such a great gamer with your 12 games this gen on both systems combined. lol.
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats. YoshiYogurt
The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

I meant exclusives. The wii has no multiplats lol.

You're kidding,right?It may not have tons,but obviously there are some.

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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

Yes.

Never would've guessed.
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It's been doing just fine without games.
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#42 psymon100
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[QUOTE="joel_c17"]

MS hasnt had a retail 9+ exclusive game that wasnt halo gears or forza since 2006 - it will sell because of its marketing budget and the marketing teams ability to target stupid people.

StatusShuffle

Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Status shuffle man I checked those out myself. I'm on your side here that those are quality titles, the two of those I actually played were Alan Wake and Trials HD. However, none get a Metacritic of >90%, which was joel_c17's criteria. Trials HD did have a retail release yes, but again the MC score isn't quite there, which is what joel_c17 is after. Funnily enough, while looking for such info I came across this:
For 2012, the games review aggregation site Metacritic gives the average of Microsoft games as 77.2 (out of 100); The highest score among the first-party publishers. The closest first-party publisher is Nintendo at 74.4. Wikipedia

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Games have little to do with MS's overall business. I think Windows 8 will fall on its face, and if a new software developer steps in with a better OS we will see them start to fall.

At least, that's what is sorely needed in the PC market.

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[QUOTE="todd2r"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will get.

How will microsoft even step into next gen without any games? Everyone is saying "Sony's doomed," when they clearly aren't and actually have games,

I simply cannot see myself getting a 720. Microsoft simply has no games besides Gears and Halo. Why should I pay for live either, and then be plastered with ads covering 75% of my dashboard?

ispeakfact

Ads cover 75% of your dashboard? I must have a different dashboard on my 360.

:cool:

Why are you trying to push me over the edge ispeakhairy?
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[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] Alan Wake was in 2010.... Dance Central was 2011... Trials HD, which has a retail release, was 2009 Fable 2 was 2008

Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

If you only play 9+ games I guess your such a great gamer with your 12 games this gen on both systems combined. lol.

I game mostly on PC and my 3DS. The DS got more exclusives that all 3 consoles combines because it's a handheld. The wii is only for Nintendo games and I don't even own a PS3.
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#46 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

If you only play 9+ games I guess your such a great gamer with your 12 games this gen on both systems combined. lol.

I game mostly on PC and my 3DS. The DS got more exclusives that all 3 consoles combines because it's a handheld. The wii is only for Nintendo games and I don't even own a PS3.

3ds? please, the 360 has 3067 times more games.
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#47 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"] If you only play 9+ games I guess your such a great gamer with your 12 games this gen on both systems combined. lol.

I game mostly on PC and my 3DS. The DS got more exclusives that all 3 consoles combines because it's a handheld. The wii is only for Nintendo games and I don't even own a PS3.

3ds? please, the 360 has 3067 times more games.

It says alot when a system without games has 3067 times more games than another system.
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#48 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] I game mostly on PC and my 3DS. The DS got more exclusives that all 3 consoles combines because it's a handheld. The wii is only for Nintendo games and I don't even own a PS3.

3ds? please, the 360 has 3067 times more games.

It says alot when a system without games has 3067 times more games than another system.

That is exactly what I was not thinking.
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#49 darkdude2k12
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

Let's face it, the 360 has no games besides Halo, Gears, and Forza. Halo 4 is coming out this year. That's just one game this year that my 360 will getYoshiYogurt

Let's see...

360 has the following-

Superior multiplat experience, loads of retail games, loads of arcade/dlc, alot more exclusives than you care to name...

Yeah, we all see the fail with MS...:roll:

Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats.

That's funny. Considering the 360's vast library of games. Tell me, how did you come to that conclusion regarding multiplats?

Also, I doubt the PS3 and Wii have more exclusives than 360.

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#50 StatusShuffle
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Alan Wake is now on pc lol not interested in a motorcycle driving game That was 4 years ago when the 360 was at the top of it's game, both games and community. it's a sad replica of it's former self now

If you only play 9+ games I guess your such a great gamer with your 12 games this gen on both systems combined. lol.

I game mostly on PC and my 3DS. The DS got more exclusives that all 3 consoles combines because it's a handheld. The wii is only for Nintendo games and I don't even own a PS3.

Which has to do with what? The DS only has like 4 9+ games, but either way what does that have to do with 9+ games? The Xbox has plenty of A+ games, but you're asking for AAA+ games only so you only have 15 games this gen combined and think the Xbox has no games because it does not have AAA+ games you don't like? Have fun with your 15 games.