Will Microsoft stop avoiding giving out their sales numbers?

so sales dont matter to lemmings anymore then?

so lemmings care about company earnings now?

so lemmings didnt hype the shit about titanfall being the savior of the system?

lol cows werent crying that it was multiplat....it was stupid lems that were hyping a multiplat as a "microsoft exclusive"

cow tears came from jealousy that titanfall didnt come out on the ps4

A great point you bring up. Although it's a great deal for those who got those discounted bundles, it's a bad sign that the demand isn't nearly as high as MSFT would like.

Yeah, MS is waiting to reveal where it is during their quarterly report. It just makes more sense anyway. The One is a bit over 4 million sales and there's just no doubt a shit-ton of games and a price drop is coming at E3. They will be just fine going forward so long as they hit that price point, nail those killer games, and continue with the Kinect-centric features that utilize it fully like NFL App, Upload Studio, Twitch broadcasting, and Xbox Fitness.

When a company wide report is within a few weeks, reveal then. We'll know how Titanfall did in its first month inside of a week anyway. No doubt it's moved close to 2 million copies across the One and PC. Probably over 500k consoles as well.

They loved to leak their NPD performances last gen when they routinely beat the others in NA sales, and Sony was the coy one.

You'll get numbers from MS when they show them doing better than the competition, or when they must (financial reports).

That has to be about the funniest thing I have ever heard... lol... This is a joke right?

How can you take that into consideration upon having a much larger gap in time between console releases? I agree anything can happen... however they released in a close time span of each other this go around.

@musicalmac: Very different circumstances. Release dates, and what not.

For the op. Why is it so important? Both systems will probably have healthy sales. I don't expect many(if any) major exclusive deals based on sales numbers.

What about dem Titan Fall xbone numbers? What happened to that.

I can see your point to an extent. However, it would make Sony look bad to brag about finally passing up a console that support had pretty much stopped for. It would only serve to highlight the position that the Playstation brand had been in all gen. Not much to gain. Now however Ps4 and Xbone are still very much new and being supported (even with their lackluster launches). Microsoft stands to gain a lot from announcing they passed up the PS4.

Will Sony stop avoiding giving out their US PS3 sales numbers? lol!! They went almost a full year without telling anyone the numbers. When they did, they would combine the PS2 and PS3 numbers together. Microsoft will announce their numbers when they announce their quarterly earnings.

Will Sony ever stop mixing sales and shipped and keep reporting them every week?

Will Nintendo ever stop innovating and things the way they want no matter what the industry tells them?

Will Rare ever go back to their glory days?

IS MOZART STILL ALIVE!?

typical Lem DC, b b but last gen.

Probably. I'm curious about how many units of MS Flight Simulator X (FSX 2006) have been sold so far because MS actually ran out of activation keys for it back in 2010.

@nini200 said:

Will Sherman Hemsley ever stop dancing?

Will Steven Seagal ever stop running?

Because those numbers would be only released as PR and it's not good PR to show that you're lagging behind your competitor.

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

MS doesn't announce official numbers since December 28 ones,the other number outside the 3 million units was 3.9 which was the same number but showing what they shipped and what they actually sold combined ..lol

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sold-3-million-units-in-2013-microsoft-says/1100-6416955/

MS last official numbers January 6.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/23/39-million-xbox-one-consoles-shipped-in-2013

MS 3.9 million which are the same re -fried numbers from December 28 sales but this time showing the 3 million they sold + the 900k that went unsold at retailers last December it was posted online on January 23.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/playstation-4-sales-reach-4-2-million-outselling-xbox-one-by-1-2-million-units-in-2013/1100-6416987/

PS4 hit 4.2 million as of december 28 as well,posted on January 7.

http://www.psu.com/a022530/Over-53-million-PS4-consoles-sold-worldwide-confirms-Sony

Posted on February 18 as of February 8 the PS4 had 5.2 million units.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/03/03/ps4-hits-6-million-ushers-in-new-era-of-social-gameplay/

Posted on March 3 PS4 reach 6 million units..

So yeah MS is holding numbers..

How can a company who try to trick every one with DRM actually be call very upfront.

Sales don't matter to lemmings now.? lulz..

WTF the game is been given free by then and advertise like if it was Halo and you ask why MS should report sales.? Please dude stop playing dumb Titanfall has been advertise as a MS game basically,even adds don't mention the PC or even 360 version...

The 360 had a 8 million lead because it launched 1 year before the PS3,the xbox one and PS4 launched the same month and sony has a good 2 and half to 3 million lead in just 4 months at this pace the lead will be like 8 million by the end of the year if something doesn't change.

Also the 360 was huge in US and UK but failed every where else,the PS4 is a success on all markets and is winning all markets as of now.

The PS3 is a last gen console.. stop living in the past..hahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the MS April 25 earnings report is meant for shareholders. That means that any earnings reports are based on shipped numbers not sold through. Shipped numbers is where manufacturers earn their money. Sold through is mostly bragging rights because it's money that goes to the retailer. MS shareholders care about how much money MS made, not Gamestop.

Still not getting any numbers, LMAO!! That was for a whole year. Unlike Microsoft. We'll see if Sony lists their PS4 NPD numbers for March if the XB1 outsells them. lol!!

He's damage controlling like all lems do.

They are not giving out numbers because the media will go ape shit and say it's doomed like they have done to every platform that isn't selling well initially. MS knows the real console war is a long term battle but the media and fanboys don't.

The only way MS will disclose sales numbers. Is if they are outselling the PS4 or a share holders meeting.

Sony didn't post February NPD and they won it what is your excuse for that.? What you saw in neogaf where numbers leaked not from sony officially.

I'd expect them in the next quarterly report, which will release in late April or early May IIRC.

Will the bovine stop being so obsessed with sales?

Err, they released there last figures on th 31'st of december

December 28th-April 2= 3 months and 2 days,MS release there figures quarterly, which is every 3 months so they are due any day now.

Clearly they have not been hiding the xbones sales figures.

Most companys reveal there sales figures quarterly, which is a 1/4 of a year.

You didn't give the OP much thought did you sunshine?

Wrong, the xbox 360 started making per unit profit of 70 dollars from 2008, you clearly have no understanding of how a business works, the xbox division may be in the Red overall but the xbox brand IS making a profit and clawing those losses back

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/24/the-xbox-turns-a-profit/

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/36011/Microsofts_Xbox_360_Division_Sees_132_Billion_Profit_For_Fiscal_Year_2011.php

Can you provide a link to back-up that lie because Im pretty sure you gettin M$ and Sony finances mixed up. More than halfway through last gen M$ had made a billion alone off of xbox live not counting hardware sales, did'nt they just release an article that said even though Ps4 sold more in Feburary or something and M$ still edged them out in profit.

Ms getting destroyed. Choose they're not gonna give out numbers. You don't tell your passengers the ship is sinking. You just let it, quietly, go down, then when they finally realize it...it's to late to launch life boats.

your post only makes sense if you show when Microsoft released their numbers in comparison...its obvious you don't have a grip on what the conversation is actually about, but thanks for sharing ,lol. his post makes sense, and i told him that. yours is is useless though...

Lems had fun bragging about sales for 8 years even when xbox360 had a 1 year had start to help the numbers always being sure to remind sony fans the PS3 was, "Last place".

Why can't cows talk about sales once both console providers release systems on an even playing field?

Dem sour grapes yo, MS fanboys need to take their medicine

XboxONE#LASTPLACE

LOL Xbox360 had a 1 year head start. Talk about pointless bragging, and xbot fanboys actually had the nerve to try to use that as an argument point.

Xbox one = LAST PLACE.

Nice butthurt rhetoric.

Ms as a whole is making lots of money and the xbox is a small part of it. Sony as a whole is losing money quicker then it can be burned and ps4 is the only thing positive it has so of course they're bragging about its sales. Do you even business bro

ITT: Butthurt lem tears.

Now I know how the cows were so butthurt last gen when talking about sales numbers. :(
It's not fair. |,,,,

of course they are going to hide the numbers.

sony has not released official npd numbers for what now?

3 years?

if ms is trailing then expect them to do the same.

Sony had already posted the 4 million sales number, so they really didn't need to. We know that XB1 sales for Feb weren't that far off from the PS4. Sony literally stopped posting their PS3 sales NPD numbers for more then a year. lol!! As they kept getting outsold by the XBox 360 again and again every month. Neither company has given worldwide sales numbers for the PS3 or XBox 360 for a long time. PS4 high demand is pretty much over in the US and Japan. It seems to be still strong in Europe, but no one can give us accurate numbers in that region.

This is your favorite link. LOL!! No more shortages, just like I predicted back in Jan.

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/ps4/

Shit, even Amazon dropped the price of the PS4. Hehehe.

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1396569560&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4

well, they've a quarterly report within the next month, they'll give numbers then

sony hasn't post number for a while and they continue to do so,NPD numbers are leak in fact in January they almost double MS sales wise and they didn't post number they just say we almost double the competition period,so yeah lose or win they will not give numbers period.

Now the million numbers is another 2 cents because those are for all PS4 sold and not just US or EU alone.

And you predicted nothing in fact you make a thread on February claiming the shortage was over based on Amazon getting shipments thread you say you would update but you never did,because by next day those units were goner and you looked like a fool once again..lol You abandon your own thread..lol

Also having some stock doesn't mean the shortage is over,hell your own link say Gamestop is out of units,gamestop is the biggest seller of video game related merchandise in US,also Best buy is out,so yeah you predicted sh** and you don't know what will happen this month either.

Also having stocks on stores doesn't mean the high the demand is over it just mean sony shipped units which is quite different.

Also sony first claimed the shortage would be over by april so yeah you predicted nothing,the xbox one to outsell the PS4 need to have a great demand which isn't the case here,so yeah if a free Titanfall copy didn't help the xbox one outsell the PS4 nothing will probably..

http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Console/dp/B00BGA9WK2/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1396569560&sr=1-1&keywords=ps4

Your own link from amazon say amazon dropped the price of the PS4 by $99 cents..lol

Did you even read what you post.? Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

MS taking lessons from Sony for a change.

You people should stop making excuses for MS,they are hiding numbers and the recent price drops and free Titanfall is a testament of how bad sales were.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-sells-over-1-million-consoles-in-24-hours/1100-6416349/

MS sell 1 million in 24 hours,a number which was clouded by claims of MS using shipped numbers to claim 1 million sold in 24 hours,based on the fact that the sales numbers came in the same day of the launch,and for the next few days units were still sitting on stores.

This ^^ is a testament of how fast MS is to report numbers which they think favor them,they launch on the 22 and the same 22 they announce 1 million in 24 hours,before the 24 hours..lol

http://news.xbox.com/2013/12/xbox-one-december-announcement

Oh look MS announcing the xbox one sold 2 million units out of their quarter report odd lemmings claims they don't do that..

So yeah they haven't report more sales because the xbox one was trailing the PS4 badly,the free Titanfall and and price drop in UK was a clear giveaway,they should be breaking now like 4 million when the PS4 is rumor to be at 7 million.

So expect their usual PR spin of the xbox one is the record breaking console or faster seller based on the xbox brand,or some sh** like what they pull on November when they claim falsely that they the xbox one was the fastest selling console in US based on a 9 day period and breaking those sales by day,when on NDP November the PS4 even with a shortage manage to sell 1.1 million units and beat the xbox one for November.

They have not released there sales numbers because it is not time to release them yet, simple logic, it's only been 3 months since they last revealed there last QUARTERLY sales figures for the Xbone, i also takes time to collate the information and numbers needed to release those figures, if they didn't release there Quarterly (3 monthly sales figures) after 6 months then i could see the TC's point but we are only 3 months and 2-3 days since they released there last quarterly sales figures.

Are people on here that dense that that don't realise that quarterly means just that, every 3 month,s and it's only been about 3 months.

Saying MS is hiding there figures for the Xbone is just a baseless assumption thought up by bored fanboys who will look for any shred of absolutely anything they can use to badmouth a product they don't like.

'OMG itz 2 dayz over 3 months MS must be hiding there quaterly sales figures'

LOL

What you fail to understand is that they loss more than 3 billions before breaking a profit,and the profits they make were eat by the huge losses.

losing 3.3 billions in 2+ years isn't make up by winning 100 million in 1 quarter,and i am sure this numbers don't include MS money hats to developers or even advertising money.

http://www.neowin.net/news/report-microsofts-xbox-division-has-lost-nearly-3-billion-in-10-years

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-11-07-huge-xbox-losses-hidden-by-patent-royalties-says-analyst

Worse some analyst claim MS is covering the xbox loses by using patent money won from Android to cover those loses,and make see like the brand is making profits,something they also where accuse of with their Tablets losses as well last year.

You can't lose 7+ billion dollars on a brand and claim that you make profits because you make 4+ billion,loses vs earning are not on par or close,for all intended purposes the xbox brand is a money pit.

You clearly know nothing about how business works, i do, thats why i have a btec national diploma in business and finance and you don't, a company or division can be in the red but they are still making profit.

Let me explain it for you tormentos, A company can be in the red overall but if the amount of money they are making is greater than there operating costs and overheads then the company is considered to be IN profit

Profit (defintion)

'a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something'

The xbox division at that time was Making more money than it cost to Produce or operate the 360 hence they where in profit..

just FOCUS on the Definition of PROFIT i posted and then think about what you said.

Why? do sales make your console more fun?

No that is how you own sad lemming who make excuses to defend MS..lol

They are not releasing sales numbers because they are hiding them.

They talk about numbers 3 times in succession,on Launch before the xbox one was even 24 hours old,to claim 1 million in 24 hours..lol

On December 11 to claim 2 million units.

and on December 31 to claim 3 million sold,in basically 1 month and a few days they talk about sales 3 times,yet from January to April they have say nothing new,nothing,then come NPD January which was horrible,and February where they did better,march still on the air,and still no numbers.

Funny that bold part because it took them less than 24 hours to claim 1 million units sold..lol

I just proved with links that they do give numbers when everything is going fine,but as soon as the bad times start they hold and they did.

Hell you know what i 't think you will hear about sales numbers any more,from now on it would probably be shipped numbers,so that they can look better,claiming we shipped 5.5 million units while people like you and Stormy hold tied to that number 1 million + units still sit on store shelves just like it happen this pas December when they shipped 3.9 million but only 3 million sold.

You know they were doing by just looking at NPD.

Less than 400K in US in 2 months isn't great,specially when outside US the xbox one is bombing.

MS is very clever and they would try to hide anything that show the xbox one as weak vs the PS4 saying we sold 3.5 million in February 20 is not something MS will want to do specially whit sony racking up numbers fast,because that spread even more the idea that the PS4 is winning and stir the market even more.

Firs of all save it,the xbox one loss 7+ billion dollars which MS hasn't make back period,analyst are accusing MS or hiding xbox losses with money won from Android patents,MS was accuse of doing the same with poor Surface sales and losses.

Look at it now MS claimed that they would make a small profit or brake even with the xbox one,now how do you think that will happen when Titanfall is been given free,Titanfall isn't a MS owned game is a Respawn game publish by EA,so every bundle MS sold with it,money goes into EA and Respawn pockets and while i am sure $60 will not be a cool $20 or $25 per unit will be,add that MS has been advertising this game probably in what can be consider as an Halo scale advertisement campaign how much money do you think they are making now per unit.? Oh and that doesn't include the 30 pound drop in price in UK,remember UK earning are convert to dollars when they come back to MS,so a 70+ pound deal MS is offering in UK is a nasty $100 + when your translate that back to dollars.

So i think is this very moment MS is actually losing money on the xbox one.

Wow, great rebuttals (sincerely).

I don't see how it's a mystery to anyone unless they have their head in the sand that MS isn't doing as well as expected. I have NEVER seen a console reduced so early in it's life span.