Will Persona 5 obliterate every jrpg competions on 2016?

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#51 Blabadon
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Nah, Fire Emblem Fates is gonna be GOTY didn't you hear?

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#52 indzman
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@bobrossperm said:
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I Hope NIER Automata gets the soundtrack right or even better than NIER. While was not a fan of NIER gameplay, its OST was my fav :)

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This soundtracks pretty good.

Battlemusic it seems,

NIER was popular for its soft/ sad OST as the story, wanting something like this in Nier Automata lol:

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#53 BobRossPerm
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Battlemusic it seems,

NIER was popular for its soft/ sad OST as the story, wanting something like this in Nier Automata lol:

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Like the battle music better personally.

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#54 Sweetbackhair
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With the fan base P5 has, I can see it.

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#55 ni6htmare01
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I don't know.. FFXV looks really good!

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#56 N64DD
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@ni6htmare01 said:

I don't know.. FFXV looks really good!

If FF15 is good, it could blow the new persona out of the water.

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#57  Edited By blamix99
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@Seabas989: FFXV will :p

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#58  Edited By ni6htmare01
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@n64dd said:
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I don't know.. FFXV looks really good!

If FF15 is good, it could blow the new persona out of the water.

So far it looks really Epic. I don't think SE will Fuxk it up this time around!

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#59 N64DD
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@ni6htmare01 said:
@n64dd said:
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I don't know.. FFXV looks really good!

If FF15 is good, it could blow the new persona out of the water.

So far it looks really Epic. I don't think SE will Fuxk it up this time around!

I'm not holding my breath lol

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#60  Edited By mems_1224
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I mean probably. JRPGs are garbage for the most part so it wouldn't be hard.

Maybe Fire Emblem is better but I doubt it

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#61 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.

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#62  Edited By aigis
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Without a doubt

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#63 aigis
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The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.

Naw, I doubt fire emblem will. The only one with the potential is FF XV

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#64 Pikminmaniac
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Dark Souls 3 is far more my style of game. It will most likely be the most successful JRPG this year.

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#65 lamprey263
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Critically, possibly. Personally, likely. Commercially... meh, maybe, hope so, maybe they'll make more of them, or maybe make a modern console collection of Persona 3/4.

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#66 aigis
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@Pikminmaniac said:

Dark Souls 3 is far more my style of game. It will most likely be the most successful JRPG this year.

I think Dark Souls is pretty niche though... Most successful will probably be a fire emblem or a final fantasy in terms of commercial success. Though I do hope persona surprises me, it seems to be getting good coverage.

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No.

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@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:

The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.

Naw, I doubt fire emblem will. The only one with the potential is FF XV

Lol, I doubt either of them will be better than P5. I'm just saying FE: Fates has a chance, and FF15 has a hint of a chance :P

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#69  Edited By aigis
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@khoofia_pika said:
@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:

The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.

Naw, I doubt fire emblem will. The only one with the potential is FF XV

Lol, I doubt either of them will be better than P5. I'm just saying FE: Fates has a chance, and FF15 has a hint of a chance :P

I agree that p5 will be way better, but I think ffxv has a better shot at being good if square doesnt mess it up

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#70  Edited By deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:
@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:

The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.That's exactly is

Naw, I doubt fire emblem will. The only one with the potential is FF XV

Lol, I doubt either of them will be better than P5. I'm just saying FE: Fates has a chance, and FF15 has a hint of a chance :P

I agree that p5 will be way better, but I think ffxv has a better shot at being good if square doesnt mess it up

That's exactly it, Square and FF have rarely been consistent enough in the last few years to inspire much confidence. FF15 does look good, but still, I'm being cautious.

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@khoofia_pika said:
@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:
@aigis said:
@khoofia_pika said:

The only JRPG this year that has the potential to be better is Fire Emblem. FF15, maybe, but it's FF and it's Square, so you can never be too sure.That's exactly is

Naw, I doubt fire emblem will. The only one with the potential is FF XV

Lol, I doubt either of them will be better than P5. I'm just saying FE: Fates has a chance, and FF15 has a hint of a chance :P

I agree that p5 will be way better, but I think ffxv has a better shot at being good if square doesnt mess it up

That's exactly it, Square and FF have really been consistent enough in the last few years to inspire much confidence. FF15 does look good, but still, I'm being cautious.

Ya im cautiously optimistic about ffxv, but persona 5 is day 1

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#72 Ballroompirate
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Since FE Fates and FF15 will be out this year, no.

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#73 WallofTruth
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Not for me, I'll most likely enjoy FF XV and SO5 waaay more.

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#74  Edited By Ant_17
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Yes.

I'm even getting the PS3 version along with the PS4.

But i don't dissmiss the others, like Star Ocean, Valkyria and FF15, so this year will be jus great to play all of them.

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#75 silversix_
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Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

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#76 Howmakewood
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Critically most likely, sales? no.

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#77 GhoX
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If it maintains its standards, then sure.

I'm excluding Dark Souls 3 from my consideration though, since I would never have to choose between the two if I "feel like playing a JRPG".

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@kratosyoloswag said:

Depends if NieR Automata releases (which I doubt), that has the potential for GOAT status, it's a dream game.

Commercially obviously Final Fantasy XV will come out on top by a large margin.

Yup, Nier's existence is a miracle and it's ticking all the boxes. I think it'll come out this year, it looks much further along than Scalebound, it already looks pretty smooth. Easy game of the year if it makes 2016.

FF15 actually looks legit, though i'm cautiously optimistic about it, hope it surprises us.

As for Persona 5, well i've got to play P4 real soon first!

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@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

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#80 Bikouchu35
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I crown any jrpg king as long as its turn based. :P Bite me.

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#81 cainetao11
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I'm betting on the install base and passion of Souls games fans. PC, PS4, X1 I say it sells more. So your commercially comment is where i am gambling you're wrong. Critically I can still see Souls winning that but by whose metric?

But that's all just a gamble from a gamer who gave persona an honest try on vita and it just doesn't interest me at all.

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I'm betting on the install base and passion of Souls games fans. PC, PS4, X1 I say it sells more. So your commercially comment is where i am gambling you're wrong. Critically I can still see Souls winning that but by whose metric?

But that's all just a gamble from a gamer who gave persona an honest try on vita and it just doesn't interest me at all.

Final Fantasy XV will easily sell the most from that list. No other JRPG comes close in sales to mainline FF and Kingdom Hearts games. FF XV could outsell the rest of TC's list combined honestly.

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#83 Legend002
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"Will it not?" is the better wording.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@cainetao11 said:

I'm betting on the install base and passion of Souls games fans. PC, PS4, X1 I say it sells more. So your commercially comment is where i am gambling you're wrong. Critically I can still see Souls winning that but by whose metric?

But that's all just a gamble from a gamer who gave persona an honest try on vita and it just doesn't interest me at all.

Final Fantasy XV will easily sell the most from that list. No other JRPG comes close in sales to mainline FF and Kingdom Hearts games. FF XV could outsell the rest of TC's list combined honestly.

I suppose it could. But as I called it "betting/gambling" and that means I am taking a risk.

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@Chozofication said:
@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

lol

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@khoofia_pika said:
@Chozofication said:
@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

lol

That was a very subtle jab LOL

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Sorry FFXV is going to Obliterate it commercially and equal or better critically. That said Persona 5 is set up to be the biggest and most successful game in the franchise so far and has potential to break into the mainstream market and get Souls level recognition.

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#88  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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I see two games: Dark Souls 3 and Nier Automata while the rest is your typical non game JRPG trash.

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Sorry FFXV is going to Obliterate it commercially and equal or better critically. That said Persona 5 is set up to be the biggest and most successful game in the franchise so far and has potential to break into the mainstream market and get Souls level recognition.

FF15 may sell more, that doesn't make it a better game than Persona 5, which is almost assuredly going to be a far more superior product.

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@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

No idea, never even heard of these games before actively posting here, and still I don't care.

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@nyadc said:
@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

No idea, never even heard of these games before actively posting here, and still I don't care.

Persona has always had a very niche audience, so people don't commonly hear about it. It's gotten more popular lately with P4G and all the P4 spinoffs, but it's still not mainstream.

If you have a Vita, though, you should definitely play P4G. Quality game.

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@nyadc said:
@silversix_ said:

Don't know why the series is so popular on SW.

No idea, never even heard of these games before actively posting here, and still I don't care.

It was a very niche franchise until very recently, so it makes sense most people wouldn't have heard about it, especially if it falls into a genre they are not all that familiar with.

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@charizard1605 said:
@casharmy said:

Sorry FFXV is going to Obliterate it commercially and equal or better critically. That said Persona 5 is set up to be the biggest and most successful game in the franchise so far and has potential to break into the mainstream market and get Souls level recognition.

FF15 may sell more, that doesn't make it a better game than Persona 5, which is almost assuredly going to be a far more superior product.

Not really.

You base that off what exactly? Emotions and fandom don't count as argument points BTW!

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@casharmy said:
@charizard1605 said:
@casharmy said:

Sorry FFXV is going to Obliterate it commercially and equal or better critically. That said Persona 5 is set up to be the biggest and most successful game in the franchise so far and has potential to break into the mainstream market and get Souls level recognition.

FF15 may sell more, that doesn't make it a better game than Persona 5, which is almost assuredly going to be a far more superior product.

Not really.

You base that off what exactly? Emotions and fandom don't count as argument points BTW!

I think he bases that off the recent consistency and quality of games in both franchises, and that of the developers, and really, if that's his metric, then there's no doubting that Persona 5 will be the superior product.

FF15 looks good, I won't deny that, but Square and the series' trends in the last few years don't inspire much confidence. The same cannot be said for Atlus and Persona.

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@casharmy said:
@charizard1605 said:
@casharmy said:

Sorry FFXV is going to Obliterate it commercially and equal or better critically. That said Persona 5 is set up to be the biggest and most successful game in the franchise so far and has potential to break into the mainstream market and get Souls level recognition.

FF15 may sell more, that doesn't make it a better game than Persona 5, which is almost assuredly going to be a far more superior product.

Not really.

You base that off what exactly? Emotions and fandom don't count as argument points BTW!

Multiple things:

  • The recent track record of Atlus and Persona versus the recent track record of Square Enix and Final Fantasy 15
  • The mostly smooth (if long) development of Persona 5 versus the highly protracted development of Final Fantasy 15- it has changed directors two times, and full staff at least three separate times
  • Persona generally pushes the envelope of RPGs more than Final Fantasy- FF15 looks ambitious, definitely, but it still looks like a traditional JRPG translated to a modern open world context. Persona always plays with its structure, its story, and its characters to subvert player expectations about the genre

Everything we have seen of Persona so far looks far better than everything we have seen of Final Fantasy 15- even if this point is subjective, the three points listed above are not. They are pretty concrete grounds to be far more confident of Persona 5's quality over Final Fantasy 15, when it comes down to it.

Fans of Final Fantasy (of which I am one myself, I may remind you) are free to look forward to FF15 more, nothing is stopping them; they are free to think FF15 will be the better game, and nothing is stopping them from believing that either- for all we know, it will be. However, there are no concrete points to actually believe at this point that FF15 will be a better game than P5 will be. The few concrete points that exist as evidence when talking about two unreleased games all point to Persona 5 being the better product. The only reason FF fans would persist in thinking FF15 may be better would be because of, as you said, emotions and fandom, with a dash of subjectivity and personal preferences thrown in.

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#96 Jag85
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Persona 5 will probably be the most critically acclaimed among them, but FFXV will almost certainly be the most commercially successful among them.

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#97  Edited By Juub1990
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If Persona 5 gets a proper combat system, level design and more rounded characters with better social links aspects then I'll be sold. It'll be 2nd place right after Dark Souls III for me.

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#98 B_rich84
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Obliterate? I doubt it. Will it win? Possibly.

I think FFXV is actually building a lot of steam. A lot of people loved the new gameplay videos.

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@indzman:

http://www.khhsubs.com/projectsrggishin.html

Might not be the best way but this walkthrough is very good for Ryu ga gotoku ishin especially for the the sub stories and understanding the main story.

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@Kashiwaba said:

@indzman:

http://www.khhsubs.com/projectsrggishin.html

Might not be the best way but this walkthrough is very good for Ryu ga gotoku ishin especially for the the sub stories and understanding the main story.

WOW, all story , everything in english translation. Thanks a lot man, if i come upon a *** import of ishin this will definately come handy.

Thanking you again :)