Will PS4/Xbox 3 be able to run Crysis on VERY HIGH MAXED OUT 60 FPS?

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#101 Jade_Monkey
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Hermits will always cling to Crysis...Even 4 years down the road when the new breed of consoles **** all over the PC's, they will still cling to crysis, it's sad...Isnt it?Vis-a-Vis

Consoles never **** over PCs. Even at the very start, launch day, your hardware is not as good as the best gaming PC. Also shouldn't your uber new consoles of the future have better things to do than say "were so good we can beat a 4 year old PC game".

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#102 Supafly1
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They probably will.
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#103 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

I doubt it, I'm talking with some AA/AF in REAL HD.

Crysis is too adavnce for any future next gen console to run smoothly

Polaris_choice

LOL do you live in a cave? The PS4 will be so far beyond anything currently available on pc hardware right now that Crysis will look awful compared to next gen titles. Thats like saying no game on the PS3 looks better then Doom 3.

Most games abrely look better than Half-Life 2 ( when it comes to realism and character animation ) ...

"For beyond" yea right, they can only be as good as the next graphic card generation, seeing as we are approaching the later stage of the Xbox360's life, it will only be 1 or 2 Gcard generations ahead from now, Which may or may not handle Crysis in all its glory.

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#104 lowe0
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Play Crysis, or at least watch this video

Crysis has teh best physics in a video game. Thats it.

skrat_01

That video isn't rendered in real time. I don't see how it bears any relation to what's possible on current hardware, unless you like playing at 1/8 fps (read the second slide of the video).

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#105 Rougehunter
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frankly, I hope the PC totally dies nex gen.rgame1
Yeah so consoles can go down with it:|
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#106 VoodooGamer
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I have a conspiracy theory...

What if Painballz is a hardcore console fanboy in a hermit disguise trying to make us all look bad? Makes me wonder...

AND with that out of the way! jesus christ Painballz, I think you killed Wok7....:roll:

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#107 kostmpekir
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PS4 and xbox720 will run Crysis 2 easilly, in 120fps and 1080p
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#108 Nameless-Hero
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og course the next generation consoles can run crysis at max settings, thats like saying Doom 3 would not be surpassed until 3rd generation 360 and PS3 games. in 4-5 years Crysis will look below average compared to what the next gen will be pumping out.

estimated next generation specification

CPU 2X Octo core @6.0Ghz, 4 threads per core, 5 billion triangles/sec

GPU custom chip with 4 cores @2Ghz, SM5.0, DX12, 400 unified pipelines, 3gb memory 80Gs/sec

5Gigs of DDR5 Ram @4Ghz

do u honestly think a machine with these specs couldn't run crysis at 60fps. it will run 3 crysis at SHDTV that 1440p+

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#109 Bebi_vegeta
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I have a conspiracy theory...

What if Painballz is a hardcore console fanboy in a hermit disguise trying to make us all look bad? Makes me wonder...

AND with that out of the way! jesus christ Painballz, I think you killed Wok7....:roll:

VoodooGamer

I think it's the same guy...

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#110 osan0
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assuming MS and sony continue along the usual path for their next consoles....crysis should be a piece of cake for them in its current form.

the 360 and PS3 can run the engine at med-high settings at the mo. now i know that doesent mean that they can run the game....they cant....but the PS4 and Xbox 3 will be more powerful by a factor of 10 compared to the PS3 and xbox 360. they will also give a PC like mine a thourough pasting (perfectly understandable since my PC will be 3-4 years old by then)...and my rig can run crysis quite nicely. although my PC is quite a bit more powerful than any console....its nowhere near 10X more powerful than them.

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#111 iamdanthaman
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I dont think people know what Crysis is like on 'very high maxed out 60fps'.

We are talking a 1080p resolution, with full AA and AF, let alone very high settings.

At 60 frames a second.

If you seriously think the next breed of consoles could do that - honestly - a jump from the current console standard would have to be the biggest technological jump in ages. Let alone the hardware price would be so massive the PS3s launch price would have looked liek a bargain.

skrat_01

Ever heard of Moore's law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

"Moore's Law describes an important trend in the history of computer hardware: that the number of transistors that can be inexpensively placed on an integrated circuit is increasing exponentially, doubling approximately every two years "

Think about it. The most powerful console last Gen was the xbox, which had a 700Mhz processor, compare that with the Xbox 360 which has 3 2.4Ghz cores, not to mention the cell processor in the PS3. Exponential growth means that every year the jump in technology will be greater than before, so the jump will always be the largest jump ever. 6 years between xbox and xbox 360=8 times the power. 8 years between 360 and the next console=16 times the power.

So then, if we look at the fact that the 360 was tested at 1 Teraflop and the PS3 at 2 Teraflops, if we multiply that by 16, it would get into the to 100 supercomputers in the world right now, which the bottom one has a peak performance of 15.36 Teraflops.

http://www.top500.org/list/2007/11/100

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#112 HuusAsking
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TC go over to Anandtech.com and see the article about quad SLI using two Nvidia 9800GX2's trying to run Crysis on Very High settings. This is taken from the site.

-This indicates that the higher the graphical quality, the MORE CPU bound we are. Crazy isn't it? It's counter-intuitive, but pure fact. In speaking with NVIDIA about this (they have helped us a lot in understanding some of our issues here), the belief is that more accurate and higher quality physics at higher graphical quality settings is what causes this overhead. Also, keep in mind that we are testing in a timedemo with AI disabled. -

So until INTEL invents a better CPU you PC gamers aren't going to be running Crysis on Ultra Settings anytime soon.

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That CPU is coming. In 2010, Intel will release Westmere, a hexa-core CPU with HyperThreading. Not only that, with nVidia's acquisition of Aegia (makers of the PhysX card), expect future nVidia GPUs to feature more advanced physics acceleration which will in turn take more load off the CPU. IOW, 1080p60 locked with full effects by 2010 is still within reach.
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#113 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

I dont think people know what Crysis is like on 'very high maxed out 60fps'.

We are talking a 1080p resolution, with full AA and AF, let alone very high settings.

At 60 frames a second.

If you seriously think the next breed of consoles could do that - honestly - a jump from the current console standard would have to be the biggest technological jump in ages. Let alone the hardware price would be so massive the PS3s launch price would have looked liek a bargain.

iamdanthaman

Ever heard of Moore's law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

"Moore's Law describes an important trend in the history of computer hardware: that the number of transistors that can be inexpensively placed on an integrated circuit is increasing exponentially, doubling approximately every two years "

Think about it. The most powerful console last Gen was the xbox, which had a 700Mhz processor, compare that with the Xbox 360 which has 3 2.4Ghz cores, not to mention the cell processor in the PS3. Exponential growth means that every year the jump in technology will be greater than before, so the jump will always be the largest jump ever. 6 years between xbox and xbox 360=8 times the power. 8 years between 360 and the next console=16 times the power.

So then, if we look at the fact that the 360 was tested at 1 Teraflop and the PS3 at 2 Teraflops, if we multiply that by 16, it would get into the to 100 supercomputers in the world right now, which the bottom one has a peak performance of 15.36 Teraflops.

http://www.top500.org/list/2007/11/100

Moore's Law seems to be slowing down. It hit a roadblock when clock speeds couldn't be kept up without hitting catastrophic heat issues (that's when Intel dumped the NetBurst line and went to the Core line). Next, silicon can only shrink so much until you hit a point where there either isn't enough resistor between the lanes to keep the circuits sane or the conductors become too small for the electrons to flow freely. It's a fundamental physical limitation not even Moore's Law can beat. Third, as you apply more and more cores, the return for each additional core becomes less and less. Traffic management problems become increasingly problematic and problems of memory contention and tasks which cannot be divided among cores will become more and more frequent.
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#114 iamdanthaman
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Dude, read the article.
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#115 skrat_01
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I played Crysis and I loved the tree physics but other than that the game was somewhat linear and extremely linear at the end of the game

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Yea the games progression is linear, and towards the end of the game it did become quite linear, which was a dissapointment, though the rest of the game was great.
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#116 skrat_01
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Hermits will always cling to Crysis...Even 4 years down the road when the new breed of consoles **** all over the PC's, they will still cling to crysis, it's sad...Isnt it?Vis-a-Vis
And then 4 years down the road the PCs will have another FPS that is 4 years ahead of what the consoles have.

History repeats itself every gen, and console fanboys try and cling to some sort of weird logic that it will be different next gen

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#117 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Play Crysis, or at least watch this video

Crysis has teh best physics in a video game. Thats it.

lowe0

That video isn't rendered in real time. I don't see how it bears any relation to what's possible on current hardware, unless you like playing at 1/8 fps (read the second slide of the video).

Of course, its just a great example of scope and flexibility of the physics engine.
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#118 tenaka2
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Ever heard of Moore's law?

iamdanthaman

Moores law does not apply to consoles in this instance.

it only applies to PC's.

Consoles are designed to be cheap and mass produced. Console have serious cost limitations that restrict them from having the best tech available at the time.

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#119 daveg1
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if the specs of the next xbox are true then yes i think it will run crysis im thinking every game next gen will be that standard at full hd..

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#120 Dante865
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I'd like to think so, yes - Easily.
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#121 shearMario
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Nobody knows because no one as seen the specs for the next gen consoles, I would take a guess and say its very very likely.
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#122 iamdanthaman
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[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

Ever heard of Moore's law?

tenaka2

Moores law does not apply to consoles in this instance.

it only applies to PC's.

Consoles are designed to be cheap and mass produced. Console have serious cost limitations that restrict them from having the best tech available at the time.

The hell it doesn't apply to Consoles. The new consoles are just proprietary PC's that are specialized to play games. and consoles usually do have the best tech at the time, both PS3 and Xbox 360's CPUs and GPUs were more powerful than anything on the market when they came out, consoles are always sold below cost, since the money is expected to be made in game sales. The Wii is obviously the exception to these rules, but the other consoles are high end PCs and Moore's law applies directly to them, and will apply to their successors.

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#123 Thompsonwhore
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Depends when these consoles come out and what hardware they're using. If the consoles in question are using GeForce 10 cards, then sure, they'd be able to.

But if they're using anything lower than that, not possible.

That's not taking into account how efficient the transfer from PC to console is.

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#124 teh_goonster
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I'm talking with some AA/AF in REAL HD. You also have to take into account, the MAP SIZES,64KM view distance, and fully REAL TIME DESTRUCTABILITY (Not predetermined points like in Bad Company)

Will they?... I doubt it.

Crysis is too adavnce for any future next gen console to run smoothly

Painballz

Do you realise what computer you need to run Crysis at very high at 60fps with AA?

SLi-ing two 8800ultras still won't do it. You need at least 3 GPUs.

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#125 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Painballz"]

I'm talking with some AA/AF in REAL HD. You also have to take into account, the MAP SIZES,64KM view distance, and fully REAL TIME DESTRUCTABILITY (Not predetermined points like in Bad Company)

Will they?... I doubt it.

Crysis is too adavnce for any future next gen console to run smoothly

teh_goonster

Do you realise what computer you need to run Crysis at very high at 60fps with AA?

SLi-ing two 8800ultras still won't do it. You need at least 3 GPUs.

Thing is, the next GPU coming out from ATI and nVidia are supposed to have the power of two of their last-genearation counterparts. And ATI plans to have four of their part on one chip eventually while nVidia already has tri-SLI. I wouldn't be too surprised if their next move is tri- or even quad-SLI on one board.
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#126 dannyj231
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lol pc are far more powerful than consoles because they have sht all memory the ps3 has just over half a gig wtf

pcs will always be more powerful than consoles but consoles are cheaper so more noobs buy them to play there piss easy games.

the ps3 is a big failure since u can make a better pc for the same cost so fck u console fanboys

if u want to do gaming spend £650 on a pc wich will kick tht sht out of any console at the time

to play crysis maxed out with 60 fps u only need a ati 4870 and a couple gigs of ram

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#127 kidcool189
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lol pc are far more powerful than consoles because they have sht all memory the ps3 has just over half a gig wtf

pcs will always be more powerful than consoles but consoles are cheaper so more noobs buy them to play there piss easy games.

the ps3 is a big failure since u can make a better pc for the same cost so fck u console fanboys

if u want to do gaming spend £650 on a pc wich will kick tht sht out of any console at the time

to play crysis maxed out with 60 fps u only need a ati 4870 and a couple gigs of ram

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hahahahaha, your not gonna last long and btw, i usually always stick up for pc gaming, but that last statement is so false
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#128 Pinkyimp
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lol pc are far more powerful than consoles because they have sht all memory the ps3 has just over half a gig wtf

pcs will always be more powerful than consoles but consoles are cheaper so more noobs buy them to play there piss easy games.

the ps3 is a big failure since u can make a better pc for the same cost so fck u console fanboys

if u want to do gaming spend £650 on a pc wich will kick tht sht out of any console at the time

to play crysis maxed out with 60 fps u only need a ati 4870 and a couple gigs of ram

dannyj231
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#129 VendettaRed07
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i dont think the graphical leap to next gen is going to be as big as we think it will, both companies are gonna wanna profit off the consoles and sell them most preferably at 350 at launch, after what happened to sony this gen, i can guarentee you neither will go higher that 400 on day one
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#130 ReaperV7
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if gears 2 gets frame-rate issues and a pop-in texture issues.....automatic no on the 360.
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#131 D-Throne
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It'll take it a step further, it'll run it at 4K resolution and it'll be running at 240fps!
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#132 cainetao11
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Dog, I run that s**t now on my Neentendo! Big UPS!
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#133 FragTycoon
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If the next consoles don't, assuming that that's 4-5 years in the future, then I would admit that Nintendo's plan worked.

I would subsequently become a PC-only gamer.

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#134 GodLovesDead
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I was playing Crysis last night at a friend's house and I too am skeptical if next-generation consoles would be able to run Crysis as computers run it now.
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#135 imprezawrx500
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when you consider the 360 can't max out the source engine and the first farcry has better physics, bigger level and looks almost as good as most current console game Its unlikely. next gen console will be able to run it on high-very high at 30-60fps but not with aa and not @ 1920 x1080.

 

Unless console makers finally relise that ram is far more important than the cpu or gpu they don't have a change of running it as well as a gefore 9800gtx/radepn 4870 can.  I'd be suprise if next gen console have more than 2gb total ram and crysis need at least 2gb combined vram and system ram to be maxed out.  ps3/x360 would be running game at much higher resolutions has ms and sony had some brains and put 1gb ram in.    

I have yet to see a console game with levels as large as farcry 1 with as many enemies on screen at once (fc2 has nothing compared to fc1 and has spaning everywhere while fc1 has no spaning anywhere)   Then there are doom3 engine based games that x360 can't run above medium settings which also shows how its unlikley the next console will be able to max out crysis.  

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#136 Captain__Tripps
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At 1080p, 4xAA, 16AF, 60Fps, I kind of doubt it. It kind of depends on what direction ms/sony go, if they go all out with expensive machines that they are losing money over fist on, the chances would go up.
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#137 swazidoughman
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when you consider the 360 can't max out the source engine and the first farcry has better physics, bigger level and looks almost as good as most current console game Its unlikely. next gen console will be able to run it on high-very high at 30-60fps but not with aa and not @ 1920 x1080imprezawrx500

Farcry 1 looks like balls compared most 360/Ps3 games.

I know for a fact because I own it and have run in plenty of times on max settings. 

But Think that next gen of consoles will be able to output graphics at at least 30 FPS that are the same quality as Crysis on High or Very High.

look at the jump from Xbox to Xbox 360, not only where things like Shaders and textures improved immensely, but there was also a large bump in resolution

(480i-720p [and in some cases 1080i/p]).

Now that the resolution is high enough, they can focus putting the extra power from the next gen platforms into other things almost exclusively.Â