Will Resident Evil 6 Be Crap?

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#101 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] That would be the Remake of number 1. 4 was fun but not even worth mentioning in comparison to #1.Dibdibdobdobo

Not according to critical and majority gamer reception...

Yeah when it was your 1st resident evil game on the PS2 that you played im sure you'd be like "WOW" . The only critical acclaim that the 4 got was f or the new camera angle and that was it. Nothing more, nothing less. Majority gamer reception... Please dont make stuff up.

lol, he's not it has 9's across the board here. A 96 on metacritic and a number of GOTY awards. Thats not making stuff up it's fact.
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#102 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Not according to critical and majority gamer reception...

dercoo

Gamers didn't want Resident Evil to be Resident Evil.

Gamers wanted RE to be better.

RE4 changed survival horror and TPS.

Still didn't want them to ditch the "survival horror" though. :cry:

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#103 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Not according to critical and majority gamer reception...

dercoo

Gamers didn't want Resident Evil to be Resident Evil.

Gamers wanted RE to be better.

RE4 changed survival horror and TPS.

RE4 isn't survival horror. Gamers didn't want to play Survival Horror, and that's precisely why RE4 was so popular. REmake was already better than previous RE games; a huge improvement. Capcom could have actually tried progress, rather than discarding RE and steamrolling over it with something else.

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#104 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Gamers didn't want Resident Evil to be Resident Evil.

jasonharris48

Gamers wanted RE to be better.

RE4 changed survival horror and TPS.

Still didn't want them to ditch the "survival horror" though. :cry:

He's saying that RE4 made improvements to Survival Horror.

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#105 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Gamers didn't want Resident Evil to be Resident Evil.

jasonharris48

Gamers wanted RE to be better.

RE4 changed survival horror and TPS.

Still didn't want them to ditch the "survival horror" though. :cry:

You can only listen to so many complainers. I say forget it and let capcom do what they want. I mean RE5 was great. I loved it and I know a lot of people didn't. But I agree that it's not "resident evil" I say let them reboot it and hopefully they'll go back to the freaky deaky roots that made the series so popular
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#106 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Gamers wanted RE to be better.

RE4 changed survival horror and TPS.

hakanakumono

Still didn't want them to ditch the "survival horror" though. :cry:

He's saying that RE4 made improvements to Survival Horror.

Survival, not horror
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#107 hakanakumono
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I want to make it clear that I think RE4 was a wonderful game. It just wasn't RE. Or Survival Horror. It went in the opposite direction of progress in terms of Survival Horror.

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#108 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Still didn't want them to ditch the "survival horror" though. :cry:

Animal-Mother

He's saying that RE4 made improvements to Survival Horror.

Survival, not horror

Survival implies extraordinary means of survival.RE4 utilizes more common survival mechanisms.

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#109 TheShadowLord07
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its a shame 5 didnt do so good. i like the the idea of it being in africa. it could have done better if the world was less liner,has a day/night system,no sheva(or make her as an optional playable chracter like mortal kobat shaolin monks) and your liked to limit weapons/ammo/med packs, and bring in the merchant from re4(so you can't buy anyting where ever you go)

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#110 Frozzik
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Put of playing 5 until last week. As you can se in my sig i have started. It is ok as a game but not what i want from a resident evil game. ^ will probably be the same. I will not buy it

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#111 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

He's saying that RE4 made improvements to Survival Horror.

hakanakumono

Survival, not horror

Survival implies extraordinary means of survival.RE4 utilizes more common survival mechanisms.

But not horror. As I originally said
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#112 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Survival, not horrorAnimal-Mother

Survival implies extraordinary means of survival.RE4 utilizes more common survival mechanisms.

But not horror. As I originally said

I'm not sure what you're saying. You're saying that RE4 is a "survival" game?

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#113 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Survival implies extraordinary means of survival.RE4 utilizes more common survival mechanisms.

hakanakumono

But not horror. As I originally said

I'm not sure what you're saying. You're saying that RE4 is a "survival" game?

Yes, its definetly not a survival horror game

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#114 lostfan132
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how to fix resident evil

1. no co-op gimmick(ruined re5, re is best as solo experience)

2. cut down on over the top action

3. go back to racoon city or other urban area

4. more puzzles

5. no assault rifles please, only pistols, shotguns, and a smg like re4.

6. limit ammo so it actually feels like survival horror.

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#115 Frozzik
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how to fix resident evil

1. no co-op gimmick(ruined re5, re is best as solo experience)

2. cut down on over the top action

3. go back to racoon city or other urban area

4. more puzzles

5. no assault rifles please, only pistols, shotguns, and a smg like re4.

6. limit ammo so it actually feels like survival horror.

lostfan132

In other words go back to classic RE!!!!!!!!!! Please

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#116 lostfan132
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[QUOTE="lostfan132"]

how to fix resident evil

1. no co-op gimmick(ruined re5, re is best as solo experience)

2. cut down on over the top action

3. go back to racoon city or other urban area

4. more puzzles

5. no assault rifles please, only pistols, shotguns, and a smg like re4.

6. limit ammo so it actually feels like survival horror.

Frozzik

In other words go back to classic RE!!!!!!!!!! Please

i would be fine with a mix of re4 and classic RE, thats about the best we could hope for at this point. they are NOT going to go full out old school re anymore. RE4 with less ammo, more puzzles, actual zombies, less powered weapons would be good with me.

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#117 Ballroompirate
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I'm still buying RE6 no matter what they do to it, i've bought every RE game thats been released since the PS1 and the only one i really didnt enjoy was RE3 and gaiden.

(good times)

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#118 beanmerm
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That resi 1 box brings back happy memories indeed! I sort of lost faith after playing resi 5. When I picked up Dead Space and had compleated it my heart had found a new surrival horror franchise!

Dead Space is amazing but I hope they do sort it out for resi 6, those playstaion 1 resi memories are just too precious to scrub out just yet.....

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#119 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Not according to critical and majority gamer reception...

Master_ShakeXXX

Yeah when it was your 1st resident evil game on the PS2 that you played im sure you'd be like "WOW" . The only critical acclaim that the 4 got was for the new camera angle and that was it. Nothing more, nothing less. Majority gamer reception... Please dont make stuff up.

Ah, spoken as if by someone who has absolutely no clue what they're talking about.

Sure i dont, I like it when people say i dont know what im on about but cannot prove other wise. Resident Evil 4 got alot of love just for the camera angle which has been used pretty much in every TPS since. No one talks about the game as a whole they just talk about the camera and thats it. Enemies where lame, plot was lame, gameplay thanks to the camera was ok-ish. I've played every resident evil game so i know what im on about unlike yourself.

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#120 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]Some of Resident Evil : Umbrella Chronicles is based in russia so thats where the series should go.. Kill off Zombies altogether and exchange them for Crimsons. Kill off Leon,Chris, Jill as these characters are used way to much and make either Hunk or the Crab Stick the main character. Kill off online as Co-Op is lame in resident Evil. Replace the non-stop lameness i mean action of resident evil 4/5 with some atmohsphere, puzzles and some awesome enemies rather than all those lousy ones in 4/5 as neither of those 2 games could hold a candle to the Psycho little girl in 1 remake nor William Birkin in number 2.Midnightshade29
Sounds great, but what RE1 remake? I didn't know there was one. I played RE1 back on the PS1, it was my first PlayStation game back in the mid-late 90's I remember i got my PS1 with the original Dual Shock controller in the box and RE1 directors cut - dual shock edition. It was great!!! Scared the crap out of me at times, and it was loaded with puzzles and atmosphere. I have since tried playing the PS1 RE games on the ps3 but they aren't the same. Silent hill PS1 game is still a blast though. I still enjoy the silent hill series 10000x more than re any day!

It was released upon the Gamecube several years back. I'd reccomend that you play it as it is the best Resident Evil by miles.
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#121 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Not according to critical and majority gamer reception...

Yeah when it was your 1st resident evil game on the PS2 that you played im sure you'd be like "WOW" . The only critical acclaim that the 4 got was f or the new camera angle and that was it. Nothing more, nothing less. Majority gamer reception... Please dont make stuff up.

lol, he's not it has 9's across the board here. A 96 on metacritic and a number of GOTY awards. Thats not making stuff up it's fact.

Resident Evil as a whole normally scores around the 9's. Resident Evil remake scored 8.9. CVX scored 9.0, zero scored 8 on GS. I never said it never won awards but i said it was pretty much purely for the new camera angle. Apart from that it did what.....oh right zilch. When people talk about 4 they dont talk about the game they talk about the camera. Thats not a opinion thats a fact.
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#122 Big-Shamrock
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I just feel that it will go further into the wrong direction.
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#123 Animal-Mother
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I'm still buying RE6 no matter what they do to it, i've bought every RE game thats been released since the PS1 and the only one i really didnt enjoy was RE3 and gaiden.

(good times)

Ballroompirate

That box, goes to show what kind of game it was. absolutely nuts. We need to bring back this kind of RE

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#124 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]

Yeah when it was your 1st resident evil game on the PS2 that you played im sure you'd be like "WOW" . The only critical acclaim that the 4 got was f or the new camera angle and that was it. Nothing more, nothing less. Majority gamer reception... Please dont make stuff up.

Dibdibdobdobo

lol, he's not it has 9's across the board here. A 96 on metacritic and a number of GOTY awards. Thats not making stuff up it's fact.

Resident Evil as a whole normally scores around the 9's. Resident Evil remake scored 8.9. CVX scored 9.0, zero scored 8 on GS. I never said it never won awards but i said it was pretty much purely for the new camera angle. Apart from that it did what.....oh right zilch. When people talk about 4 they dont talk about the game they talk about the camera. Thats not a opinion thats a fact.

Lol, Revolutionizing a genre is doing zilch?

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#125 Ratchet_Fan8
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Its Crapcom,so yes,probably they got caught off in the whole DLC thing,now theyre a horrible dev like SE
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#126 alstevens83
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For me if I was to put together RE6 I think the following would be done:

Give the gamer a choice between Co-op and Solo play (So everyone has the option)

Make the story actually scary again. I have heard stuff about giving the game a whole new reboot with a new City maybe bringing back umbrella in some fashion to be the main bad guys

Bring back the Survival aspect of the game, We don't want to head shot a Zombie or whatever and have them drop a clip of ammo or whatever, you have to find everything yourself including weapons and no modding weapons.

Must bring back Zombies but with the Crimsion head turning properties like in RE-Remake but expand on it. So if you take down a Zombie without a headshot then it turns into a crimsion head, if you kill said CH and don't burn the body then it starts to mutate into something else (Like a half human licker or something like that)

If there is a break in the story for a flash back then once said flash back is released as DLC include that into the natural narrative of the game (Something I think Capcom missed a treat on with the Lost in Nightmares and Desprate escape DLC for RE5)

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#127 WhenCicadasCry
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...... Yes. Yes I can see it clearly. Gamespot review: 5.5

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#128 johny300
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First capcom needs to : 1. remove co-op. 2. remove las plagas. 3. have zombies. 4. make leon comeback. 5. have wesker somehow survive from what happend in re5 or make it like the one who died was a clone of him. 6. Diffrent zombies not the same(in re1/2/3/4/5 all enemies look the same) 7. make wesker stronger. 8. have one of the main characters die. 9. give us new survivers for racoon city. 10. maybe the ability to be the evil guy in the game. 11. the ending could change. 12. have racoon city as open world game like dead rising but not use everything as weapon only guns and ammo and meet other survivers. but keep the horror. 13. bring back the SURVIVAL HORROR not action.
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#129 johny300
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And bring tyrant back, or RE2 remake.
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#130 AgentA-Mi6
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No coop, atmosphere, third person view from above, horror survival not Third Person Shooter kind of action. No Online either, harder Puzzles. Thats the resident evil i want to play.

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#131 WhenCicadasCry
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First capcom needs to : 1. remove co-op. 2. remove las plagas. 3. have zombies. 4. make leon comeback. 5. have wesker somehow survive from what happend in re5 or make it like the one who died was a clone of him. 6. Diffrent zombies not the same(in re1/2/3/4/5 all enemies look the same) 7. make wesker stronger. 8. have one of the main characters die. 9. give us new survivers for racoon city. 10. maybe the ability to be the evil guy in the game. 11. the ending could change. 12. have racoon city as open world game like dead rising but not use everything as weapon only guns and ammo and meet other survivers. but keep the horror. 13. bring back the SURVIVAL HORROR not action.johny300

I'd also like to add, make it creepy. Bring back the dark, dank enviroments, instead of the Bahamas like in Res 5.

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#132 TheReviewingGuy
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All of those people who commented about reboots, luck's on your side! Capcom said in an interview that the whole series is going to have a complete reboot, mostly because of the hate RE4 and RE5 recieved. I don't know if that's the best solutition, although surely anything could be better than RE5...

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#133 Kandlegoat
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Resident Evil 6 should feature RPG elements.

Never understood why there arent more Survival Horror RPGs in general....both genres are completely compatible with each other.

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#134 crippled_ram
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I don't get the Resident Evil 4 hate... it was an awesome game :?
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#135 WhenCicadasCry
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I don't get the Resident Evil 4 hate... it was an awesome game :?crippled_ram

One of the best games last gen imo. Pretty much everything was better then the old Resident Evils. Better gameplay, yup, better inventory, yup, better enemies, yup, better graphics, yup, better atmosphere (tied with REmake imo), better story, yup, better characters (except Ashley) yup. The game was a tour de force in game design.

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#136 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I'm still buying RE6 no matter what they do to it, i've bought every RE game thats been released since the PS1 and the only one i really didnt enjoy was RE3 and gaiden.

(good times)

Oh man, I am really thinking about spending the cash and getting the Saturn version of the original RE, simply for the memories. Good times is right!
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#137 enterawesome
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They need to just bring in all the modern design mechanics of action/survival horror games, and implement in such a way that feels classic RE, as in RE 2 + 4. For instance, add in movement while aiming, but have your character have really **** aim so it doesn't feel like Gears, or anything like that, yet still plays well. Remove tank like controls, too. More creepy environments. That's all they need to do, in my eyes, to make it fresh again.
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#138 Jynxzor
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A new Resident Evil game should start fresh, ditch all the "Knowledge" the character posses. Half the "new" fans of the series probably don't even know what the T or even G Virus is.

I suggest start a new game, in a new city/town/metropolis whatever start fresh with new characters. Get a John everyman thrown into a mass of zombies and try to survive and find out whats going on. Half the fun of the series was discovering what caused the outbreak to occur and whatnot. Throwing in Millitary and Federaly trained characters into a zombie infested zone is dull and boring, because they are always "too skilled" to bother with zombies being a real threat to them.

We need some poor dude sniveling in the corner while zombies claw at his door and smash his house windows in!

Give us a real Survival Scenario like you did with the first games, they threw that design out the window with 4-5. Hell bring back the outbreak series that was a great game waiting to happen that drown under the infancy of online consol gaming.

*edit*

To those telling us that "Resident Evil 4 was the best game evar!" You may be right. Do you understand what people who were fans of the RE series before it are complaining about though?

Resident Evil 4 could have been done with anything other than the RE series, hell it only held itself thinly by 3 characters connecting the game to the actual series. "Leon Ada Wesker" Everything else has absolutly nothing to do with Resident Evil at all. Hell there wasn't even zombies at all, not even a bad cameo of one, no Jill sandwich references either!

Resident Evil 4 was an amazing game, but really grabbed the wrong series to take the design too. It wasn't an "Evolution" of the survival horror genre it was the outright murder of it.

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#139 ArisShadows
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I would really like to see a Outbreak 3, with improvements of course and updated nature to it. Voice chat. Similiar to the first two but less tanky. Maybe Dead-Space TPS style. I am not sure, just something like that again but very much improved. I felt it was interesting concept that should have been done not till now.
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#140 WilliamRLBaker
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yes, yes it will.


Why? because there is nothing now short of them going back and redoing the story completely from code veronica afterwards. Capcom ruined the story they killed the original b movie lone group of heros going against the big corporation that controls the government. To a few characters that managed to get Umbrella killed off some how, and now they have to deal with other companies.

They ruined the gameplay as well, 4 and 5 are not survival horror no matter what you say they aren't, survival horror is survival in a scary setting, An area full of zombies and other creatures with creepy puzzles, and little ammo, you have to think out strategies to epxend as little ammo as possible while still taking out the least amount of monsters as possible so you can do what you need to do. Resident evil was ruined by 4, and killed by 5. Capcom will never be bold enough to go back and just rewrite every thing...So resident evil will remain dead.

all so capcom can go to hell when they ruined SD perries awesome resident evil series of books...she expanded the story lines so much and in so many awesome ways, but with 4 and 5 being so drastically different in story she ended up not writing a book past code veronica.

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#141 dercoo
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All of those people who commented about reboots, luck's on your side! Capcom said in an interview that the whole series is going to have a complete reboot, mostly because of the hate RE4 and RE5 recieved. I don't know if that's the best solutition, although surely anything could be better than RE5...

TheReviewingGuy

RE4 got nothing but praise...

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#142 crippled_ram
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[QUOTE="TheReviewingGuy"]

All of those people who commented about reboots, luck's on your side! Capcom said in an interview that the whole series is going to have a complete reboot, mostly because of the hate RE4 and RE5 recieved. I don't know if that's the best solutition, although surely anything could be better than RE5...

dercoo

RE4 got nothing but praise...

For good reason, it was an awesome game :)
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#143 Animal-Mother
Member since 2003 • 27362 Posts

yes, yes it will.


Why? because there is nothing now short of them going back and redoing the story completely from code veronica afterwards. Capcom ruined the story they killed the original b movie lone group of heros going against the big corporation that controls the government. To a few characters that managed to get Umbrella killed off some how, and now they have to deal with other companies. No

They ruined the gameplay as well, 4 and 5 are not survival horror no matter what you say they aren't, survival horror is survival in a scary setting, An area full of zombies and other creatures with creepy puzzles, and little ammo, you have to think out strategies to epxend as little ammo as possible while still taking out the least amount of monsters as possible so you can do what you need to do. Resident evil was ruined by 4, and killed by 5. Capcom will never be bold enough to go back and just rewrite every thing...So resident evil will remain dead.

all so capcom can go to hell when they ruined SD perries awesome resident evil series of books...she expanded the story lines so much and in so many awesome ways, but with 4 and 5 being so drastically different in story she ended up not writing a book past code veronica.

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Lol, if you knew absolutely any of the resident evil universe, your first paragraph is completely wrong.

second, again I don't see how defining a genre and making a standard for all TPS games in the past 6 years is "ruined gameplay"

the books weren't very cannon either,while very good they added elements that woudl've thrown the game stories out of orbit as well by introducing new characters, scenarios, and things that would have never been mentioned in the later games due to them being absolutely absent in the earlier games.

and thrid, how do you know capcom won't go back to the drawing board?

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#144 Tessellation
Member since 2009 • 9297 Posts
I think they wont do a big reboot,they are going to use old elements and new elements,n mix it together to make everyone happy,old fans of the series n new to it...
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#145 RyuRanVII
Member since 2006 • 4257 Posts

It won't be crap if CAPCOM bring the survival and horror elements back. Also, I think it's time for a new universe, with new characters and story unrelated to the previous games.

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#146 Jynxzor
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Hell I could care less if we See Umbrella ever again, had some awesomely evil execs...but I just want mah damn Zombies, and Horror!
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#147 Lost-Memory
Member since 2009 • 1556 Posts

Eh no, I don't want RE6 to be anything like Dead Space at all.

To make RE6 succeed, they need to merge what made RE1/2/CV great with what made RE4/5 great. So back to Racoon city please.

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Woah, We're operating on the same wavelength man, I was thinking the same thing. IF they can pull it off PROPERLY, It would probably be pretty amazing.
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#149 Yo-gan
Member since 2006 • 1878 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Wait there is a new Resident Evil coming? good news, all i care about is that it has the same co op stuff RE5 had so i can play with my friend again co oping till the end of the game :P. sure was fun

millerlight89

I think almost any fan of the actual RE series will agree that Co-op does not belong.

Co-op was one of Res5's saving graces, also i reckon it helped it sell so much. I really enjoyed the co-op (luckily i always had someone to play co-op with and wasnt stuck with that god awful ai) but i do agree that it does take away from the horror aspect.

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#150 Filthybastrd
Member since 2009 • 7124 Posts

I'm playing RE5 right now and I can't really say I'm pleased with the direction it's taken from 4.....

I might just regard 6 as crap if it continues in this vein.