Will Sony ever have a franchise reach the success

I can admit I'm wrong and he had a point. I think point out halo 1 and 2 is a lil petty. I think we get the point trying to be made. No recent halo game has made the same kind of splash as recent Sony ones though.

lol.. Halo is a crappy game after Halo 3

Dont worry, I promise you both Vatsus and the other guy who posted the GT links knew exactly what he meant, and what they were doing lol.

Considering GT1 + GT2 alone account for >20 million of that number, then another 15 million for GT3. Giving GT the benefit of the doubt and not excluding GT3, removing GT1+2 alone still puts it below Halo.

TLHBSO

It also outsells Uncharted consistently on a title by title basis.

I agree it's stupid to argue about, lol. As I said, it's all good.

As far as GT's future, if fans are let down by GT6, the series may have a downward slope once word of mouth hits the brand. I've never been into racing, I'm the wrong guy to delve too much into GT's future, but I did peak at the metascores in comparison. I'm not into sales in general though, as long as X-Brand and Y-Series do well enough for a sequel, I'm a happy gamer.

Checks GOTY's for last gen.

360 = 0 exclusives

PS3 = 3 exclusives

Stay jelly. :)

halo 1 isnt exclusive, try again.

@campzor: d'oh!

Eh, I think Gran Turismo is honestly too big to be permanently affected by bad word of mouth from GT6. From what I gather, most people absolutely loved Gran Turismo 5 in spire of the middling critical reception that it got, and even though they seem to be more iffy on 6, I think Sony might have inadvertently done themselves a favor by releasing it in the midst of all the PS4 hype and hysteria- if it is disappointing, not many people noticed or cared, they were too enthralled with the PS4.

I think the PS4 will be what makes or breaks the franchise's future prospects, honestly. If it is considered to be as disappointing in the long run as GT5 (though, again, I don't personally know anyone who actually thought GT5 was disappointing at all- at worse, they thought Forza was better because GT5 was too conservative, but they still massively enjoyed the game), then sure, maybe the brand is damaged. A late generation game that launched right around two new consoles, though? I highly doubt it'll hurt the series.

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

Same! :)

Also not into racers, but I enjoy the God of War franchise.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

Why am I meant to care if they have or haven't?

Factually wrong. Halo: CE has a 97 on MetaCritic.

So because you don't like racing games this is incorrect? I feel as though Halo sucks and is a hugely over rated franchise.... however, I don't try to deny its success or put a bias spin on it.

Does it matter?

Halo's gone to shit since Bungie parted ways with Microsoft, and Mario is the most critically and commercially successful franchise of all time.

It's not really a fair comparison. I'd rather Sony just focus on making good games, like, say The Last of Us. Because outside of that, Demon's Souls, and the God of War series, their first-party IPs were weak this gen. And yes, that includes Uncharted, which is 1 for 3 in terms of "great" games.

Oh my God. I have to give this speech to another Lemming. Here we go...

Ok, you ready? Ready?

Ok. Halo has its targeted fanbase. Mario has its targeted fanbase. Hijabs have their targeted userbase. Oxygen has its targeted userbase.

When Hijabs make great sales in muslim countries it's not an impressive thing. It's just something going according to plan

When people inhale oxygen...it's not an impressive thing...it's just something that's supposed to happen naturally.

When Mario sells to specifically targeted nostalgic audience that doesn't buy anything else...it's not impressive...it's just something going according to plan.

When Halo sells to specifially targeted audience that love games like gears, halo, cod and such it's not impressive because it's going according to plan. Those games were made to be bought by xbots. MS knows you guys don't want anything new. You like repetition and you don't buy New IPs like Alan Wake so they don't make those games. If you give a dog a treat and it rushes it, you shouldn't be so impressed..that's the plan. It's not impressive when Lems buy Halo because we all know you guys won't buy anything else. Your XBL was built on Halo, runs on Halo, and needs Halo. It's not impressive or a surprise. You're all predictable and MS has you all in the palm of their hands. They can literally keep the Xbox One selling and doing well for the next 8 years if they make a HALOTITANFALLFORZAGEARSPGR each year. And this isn't fiction, but a speculation drawn based on past patterns. So, you're not in the place to get cocky and make stupid threads like this.

Uncharted 2 came and took a huge dump on all your halo and gears in terms of ratings. THAT'S ICONIC AND IMPRESSIVE.

Uncharted 2 has memorable moments like Sully's 'Hooker in church" or "Elena Fisher Last year's model" all your stupid Halo has is hey do you remember when I threw a Grenade at XXX_Killrobots and ran away? And then did it again for another billion times cause I'm not that smart?

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

Can you please Fvuck off please, You are easily one of the worst trolls around, you don't even try, you just spout shit in every topic.

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

It is a masterpiece in gaming history that has achieved more milestones in its lifespan then any other gaming franchise in history. It has set standard's for visuals, story, gameplay and multiplayer more then probably any game in history. No PS title can claim that. If I may use a phrase made popular by the late genius Steve Jobs.... It is insanely cool. plus, its incredibly fun.

Wait.. Halo 1 wasn't M$ was it? o.O

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

It is a masterpiece in gaming history that has achieved more milestones in its lifespan then any other gaming franchise in history. It has set standard's for visuals, story, gameplay and multiplayer more then probably any game in history. No PS title can claim that. If I may use a phrase made popular by the late genius Steve Jobs.... It is insanely cool. plus, its incredibly fun.

LOL YOU'RE SO FULL OF SHIT. Multiplayer, yes. But story, graphics, gameplay? Stop lying to yourself.

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

It is a masterpiece in gaming history that has achieved more milestones in its lifespan then any other gaming franchise in history. It has set standard's for visuals, story, gameplay and multiplayer more then probably any game in history. No PS title can claim that. If I may use a phrase made popular by the late genius Steve Jobs.... It is insanely cool. plus, its incredibly fun.

LOL YOU'RE SO FULL OF SHIT. Multiplayer, yes. But story, graphics, gameplay? Stop lying to yourself.

LOL I knew it would be a matter of time before I got under your skin and got you to rant. You can not handle the facts.

thread backfire obviously TC was born after GT!

And then little johnny meltdown has to come and make the sony fans look like fools

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

It is a masterpiece in gaming history that has achieved more milestones in its lifespan then any other gaming franchise in history. It has set standard's for visuals, story, gameplay and multiplayer more then probably any game in history. No PS title can claim that. If I may use a phrase made popular by the late genius Steve Jobs.... It is insanely cool. plus, its incredibly fun.

LOL YOU'RE SO FULL OF SHIT. Multiplayer, yes. But story, graphics, gameplay? Stop lying to yourself.

LOL I knew it would be a matter of time before I got under your skin and got you to rant. You can not handle the facts.

Because you think Halo is a masterpiece is the reason why Lemmings are the gaming's laughing stock. Your cookie cutter broshooter isn't a masterpiece. The Last of US is a masterpiece. Uncharted 2 is a masterpiece. MGS4 is a masterpiece. Mass Effect was a masterpiece. SMG was a masterpiece. HALO IS WHERE GAMING AND CREATIVITY GO TO DIE.

And what Milestone did Halo touch? Did it even get any GOTY anywhere?

@lostrib:

Go easy on him. Your gonna make him completely implode. He is holding on to an illusion that the brand he loves dearly has something to offer. But as it has been proven multiple times, they don't. Look at all the games they have thrown in the ring, and then stats are shown and they meltdown and make excuses.

is that a serious question?

Considering how upset you seem to be about it, Halo must be a masterpiece

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@John_Matherson said:

@mrxboxone said:

@clr84651 said:

@mrxboxone said:

Of the Mario and Halo? Or will they be stuck with mediocre exclusive titles like Killzone and Uncharted?

Uncharted is a great exclusive. Not a mediocre one. I know 2 guys that weren't going to buy a PS3 until they saw Uncharted.

It doesn't look like Mario is that great any more, as the Wii U isn't selling very well.

Halo has also lost some of it's luster.

And it is very obvious that you are an X-goggle wearer.

I was busy, haven't been babysitting the boards.

But your all still proving my point. Uncharted is still not anywhere close at Halo's level or Mario's level of success. It doesn't matter that its lost some of its "luster". It still dominating any PS franchise. As everyone that has tried posting sales, and meta scores and more..... it still proves my point.

This isn't an opinion. It is a fact.

How come everytime people ask lemmings what makes Halo good you guys can't explain without mentioning sales?

It is a masterpiece in gaming history that has achieved more milestones in its lifespan then any other gaming franchise in history. It has set standard's for visuals, story, gameplay and multiplayer more then probably any game in history. No PS title can claim that. If I may use a phrase made popular by the late genius Steve Jobs.... It is insanely cool. plus, its incredibly fun.

LOL YOU'RE SO FULL OF SHIT. Multiplayer, yes. But story, graphics, gameplay? Stop lying to yourself.

LOL I knew it would be a matter of time before I got under your skin and got you to rant. You can not handle the facts.

Because you think Halo is a masterpiece is the reason why Lemmings are the gaming's laughing stock. Your cookie cutter broshooter isn't a masterpiece. The Last of US is a masterpiece. Uncharted 2 is a masterpiece. MGS4 is a masterpiece. Mass Effect was a masterpiece. SMG was a masterpiece. HALO IS WHERE GAMING AND CREATIVITY GO TO DIE.

LOL your meltdowns make your damage control look desperate!

Please don't lump Mario and Halo together. It's sort of a disgrace to my plumber friend.

No that isn't what he said. He just tried to deflect when he was proven wrong.

Halo has not sold more than GT dont be delusional... Everyone here knows GT has sold more than Halo dont be dumb...

Here are some numbers from VGzcharts (dont like this source? then provide another to prove me wrong)

GT series sales: 57.23 million (This number does not account for GT 1 OR Gt6)

Halo series sales: 56.5 million (inlcude halo 1-4, Reach and ODST along with others that shouldnt even be counted IMO like a multiplayer map pack lol)

For some reason VGzcharts didnt have the first GT game on there which im sure sold at least 10 million.....

I love owning delusional lems, lol

@mrxboxone

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gran-Turismo-Lifetime-Series-Sales-Go-Over-67-Million-305127.shtml

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-series-sales-hit-50-million/1100-6401164/

Both of these are only 1 month apart from when they were published and both are old (about a year old). Doubt Halo has sold over 17 million more copies in a year. Oh yea the 67 million number obviously doesnt count gt 6 sales number, so cry some more lem..... Still think crappy Halo has sold more than GT? LOL

Tran Gurismo is equal to or bigger than Halo. Smaller than Mario. Derpy doo.

yeah another lem with a very low IQ,

How can a guy be this desperate?

Probably not like Mario and Halo, but GT, Crash Bandicoot, Jak & Daxter, God of war and Uncharted are pretty popular.

I'd say as far as franchise names.....Crash definitely is up there in terms of name recognition...probably more so than Halo.

I disagree. It was popular, back in PS1 days, but not any close to Halo or Mario. I think GT and Uncharted are Sony's most popular franchises.

FYI...gaming does not exist in a vacuum. I'm not talking about just the gamers of today. I'm talking overall. And Crash certainly has name recognition.

And Sonic is better known than anything MS has on it's consoles.