Will The Witcher 2 De-Thrown Skyrim as The Best RPG On 360 ?

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#51 turtlethetaffer
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I doubt Skyrim is the best. Yes the world is massive with alot of places to explore. However the combat is just clunky as hell. and combat is always a big part of what makes an RPG great.

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#52 N30F3N1X
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Skyrim's garbage?....Oh ok so all of the rest of the gaming community and reviewers around the world are wrong and your right............Yeah ok.....try playing the game first before making statements like this.Slimmin360

So, I've heard you listen to Justin Bieber and love Twilight movies, is that right?

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#54 Cloud567kar
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I doubt Skyrim is the best. Yes the world is massive with alot of places to explore. However the combat is just clunky as hell. and combat is always a big part of what makes an RPG great.

turtlethetaffer

How? I thought the combat was really good.

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#55 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Won't be too hard since Skyrim is garbage anyway.

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Skyrim's garbage?....Oh ok so all of the rest of the gaming community and reviewers around the world are wrong and your right............Yeah ok.....try playing the game first before making statements like this.

Just because lots of people like something, doesn't mean its great.

Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean the opinion of the vast majority is magically somehow invalid.

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Skyrim is a very interesting "debacle" to me,Looking at Skyrim on paper, its not as good as Kingdoms of Amalur, not even close.

KoA has the open world and sidequests that WRPG fans love so much, It has a dramatically better combat system (Gameplay is kind of important right?)And it runs very well on consoles, while Skyrim is the buggiest console game ever released, rivaled only by other Bethesda games.

Despite these facts, Skyrim is the highest rated RPG of all time, and KoA has a 79 metacritic score, Why? Theres no logical explanation for it, i believe the hype surrounding Skyrim made fans believe that they are "suppose" to love it, while a lesser known title like KoA isnt suppose to be held in such high regard.

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#57 lordreaven
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I can say one thing. TW2 will sell truck loads once the 360 gamers figure out about them sex scenes. I can almost gurantee that will be a major factor in it's sales numbers.

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#58 with_teeth26
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There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

Slashless

I have a huge amount of love for New Vegas (easily better than Skyrim) but the Witcher 2 might be better.

It has a more interesting plot/characters and choices also have huge consequences (New Vegas did this very well also). The combat is also a bit smoother in The Witcher 2.

They are hard to compare however since New Vegas is open world and The Witcher 2 not so much.

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#59 Lethalhazard
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Hell no. The Witcher series will never, ever be as popular as the Elder Scroll series. The brand name of TES is much more popular and Skyrim appeals to a much larger group of people. I, however, find the Witcher 2 to be vastly superior to Skyrim but I love both.
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#60 FPSfan1985
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I thought Skyrim was boring, thought the witcher 2 was great. So I'll have to say yes.
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#61 Slashless
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[QUOTE="Slashless"]

There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

with_teeth26

I have a huge amount of love for New Vegas (easily better than Skyrim) but the Witcher 2 might be better.

It has a more interesting plot/characters and choices also have huge consequences (New Vegas did this very well also). The combat is also a bit smoother in The Witcher 2.

They are hard to compare however since New Vegas is open world and The Witcher 2 not so much.

I suppose it comes down to preference as usual, though I was a huge fan of New Vegas' characters and plot so It's going to be pretty hard to beat it for me :P Will get The Witcher 2 sometime this year..
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#62 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Won't be too hard since Skyrim is garbage anyway.

Stringerboy

Skyrim's garbage?....Oh ok so all of the rest of the gaming community and reviewers around the world are wrong and your right............Yeah ok.....try playing the game first before making statements like this.

Just because lots of people like something, doesn't mean its great.

Umm yeah thats exactly what it means, if no one liked it then it wouldn't constitute as being any good at all.
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There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

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I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.
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#64 Slimmin360
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Skyrim is a very interesting "debacle" to me,Looking at Skyrim on paper, its not as good as Kingdoms of Amalur, not even close.

KoA has the open world and sidequests that WRPG fans love so much, It has a dramatically better combat system (Gameplay is kind of important right?)And it runs very well on consoles, while Skyrim is the buggiest console game ever released, rivaled only by other Bethesda games.

Despite these facts, Skyrim is the highest rated RPG of all time, and KoA has a 79 metacritic score, Why? Theres no logical explanation for it, i believe the hype surrounding Skyrim made fans believe that they are "suppose" to love it, while a lesser known title like KoA isnt suppose to be held in such high regard.

crimsonman1245
LOL your kidding right, i owned Kingdoms of Amalur for all of a day and returned it, it wasn't the vast RPG it was hyped up to be, it was very linear infact. It isn't fit to shine Skyrim's shoes....PLEASE.
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#65 Slashless
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[QUOTE="Slashless"]

There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

Miketheman83

I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.

Coming from a man(or, little boy in your case) with a Skyrim avatar that sh*tty thing you call an "opinion" is about as worthless as Helen Keller in a choir.

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#66 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Hell no. The Witcher series will never, ever be as popular as the Elder Scroll series. The brand name of TES is much more popular and Skyrim appeals to a much larger group of people. I, however, find the Witcher 2 to be vastly superior to Skyrim but I love both.

the topic is about quality, not popularity :P
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#67 ShadowsDemon
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No way. It's near impossible to top Skyrim.
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#68 csftar
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Hell no. The Witcher series will never, ever be as popular as the Elder Scroll series. The brand name of TES is much more popular and Skyrim appeals to a much larger group of people. I, however, find the Witcher 2 to be vastly superior to Skyrim but I love both. Lethalhazard

you have a curious definition of "Throne".

i think he means quality.

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#69 N30F3N1X
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Umm yeah thats exactly what it means, if no one liked it then it wouldn't constitute as being any good at all.Slimmin360

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#70 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="Slashless"]

There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

Miketheman83

I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.

Compared to Fallout 1 and 2 or Planescape Torment everything is crap.

But compared to Skyrim? New Vegas makes Skyrim look like a toy for illiterate outcasts.

...and you're not one of them, right?

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#72 Krelian-co
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well for m witcher 2 was my goty but skyrim was far more poular on pc so i bet it will be the same on xbox, they did a huge staep in the right direction with the game though, so maybe in the next game they could.

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#73 ms555
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HOLY FRIGGIN CRAP!!!! REALLY??.!!......WAIT LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN...........ARE U GUYS SERIOUS??!! LISTEN, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Obviously. But seriously, even skyrim is now the cool thing to hate??! My mind is blown away! literally, blown! We hyped it for months upon months! And when it came out we raved about it for months upon months! It stole a crap load of game of the year awards! Even when people started saying they were getting a little borrd, they still respected how great skyrim was made! NOW, april 2012, we just forget everything and now anyone should be embarressed to call skyrim a fabulous xbox rpg?! ARE U GUYS KIDDING RIGHT NOW?! Maybe i sound but hurt, HELL YEAH IM BUT HURT! im aware there was a skyrim hating faction last year as well, but it was NOT the majority!
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#74 csftar
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HOLY FRIGGIN CRAP!!!! REALLY??.!!......WAIT LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN...........ARE U GUYS SERIOUS??!! LISTEN, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Obviously. But seriously, even skyrim is now the cool thing to hate??! My mind is blown away! literally, blown! We hyped it for months upon months! And when it came out we raved about it for months upon months! It stole a crap load of game of the year awards! Even when people started saying they were getting a little borrd, they still respected how great skyrim was made! NOW, april 2012, we just forget everything and now anyone should be embarressed to call skyrim a fabulous xbox rpg?! ARE U GUYS KIDDING RIGHT NOW?! Maybe i sound but hurt, HELL YEAH IM BUT HURT! im aware there was a skyrim hating faction last year as well, but it was NOT the majority!ms555

People who defend Skyrim are still playing the game.

and i never said i didn't like Skyrim, i said it wasn't the king(to me).

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#75 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"]HOLY FRIGGIN CRAP!!!! REALLY??.!!......WAIT LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN...........ARE U GUYS SERIOUS??!! LISTEN, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Obviously. But seriously, even skyrim is now the cool thing to hate??! My mind is blown away! literally, blown! We hyped it for months upon months! And when it came out we raved about it for months upon months! It stole a crap load of game of the year awards! Even when people started saying they were getting a little borrd, they still respected how great skyrim was made! NOW, april 2012, we just forget everything and now anyone should be embarressed to call skyrim a fabulous xbox rpg?! ARE U GUYS KIDDING RIGHT NOW?! Maybe i sound but hurt, HELL YEAH IM BUT HURT! im aware there was a skyrim hating faction last year as well, but it was NOT the majority!csftar

People who defend Skyrim are still playing the game.

and i never said i didn't like Skyrim, i said it wasn't the king(to me).

Oh no ur fine, i mean personally skyrim isnt my favoriite xbox rpg either. but people are literally laughing at the idea that skyrim could even be considered one of xboxs best rpgs...... THAT is what blows my mind! Its so crazy to me, i cant even fathom it! I seriously cant. I mean what else is there? Dark souls, fallout, deus ex, and mass effect right? All those games are apparently leagues ahead of skyrim, seriously? i think people haveba right to like them more, but i mean it should be pretty well understood in the gaming community that skyrim is one of the most successful games on xbox
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#76 DarkLink77
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The OP's question is flawed because Skyrim, like every Bethesda game, is trash without mods.

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#77 ms555
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The OP's question is flawed because Skyrim, like every Bethesda game, is trash without mods.

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#78 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

The OP's question is flawed because Skyrim, like every Bethesda game, is trash without mods.

ms555
Im literally on the verge of shooting myself!! Oh god this is gonna hurt! (places gun on side of head)..... IS THIS WHAT U WANT! CAN U LIVE WITH THIS ON UR CONCIOUSE?!!

I'll sleep like a baby.
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#79 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

The OP's question is flawed because Skyrim, like every Bethesda game, is trash without mods.

DarkLink77
Im literally on the verge of shooting myself!! Oh god this is gonna hurt! (places gun on side of head)..... IS THIS WHAT U WANT! CAN U LIVE WITH THIS ON UR CONCIOUSE?!!

I'll sleep like a baby.

(starts putting ammo in the gun)...... DONT MAKE ME DO THIS,!!!
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ms555"] Im literally on the verge of shooting myself!! Oh god this is gonna hurt! (places gun on side of head)..... IS THIS WHAT U WANT! CAN U LIVE WITH THIS ON UR CONCIOUSE?!!

I'll sleep like a baby.

(starts putting ammo in the gun)...... DONT MAKE ME DO THIS,!!!

You don't have the stones anyway.
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#81 ms555
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I'll sleep like a baby.

! (starts putting ammo in the gun)...... DONT MAKE ME DO THIS,!!!

You don't have the stones anyway.

YOU DONT KNOW ME!! (loads the gun)..... I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT!
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#82 Pray_to_me
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[QUOTE="Slashless"]

There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

Miketheman83

I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.

Yes it is. A lot of people in System Wars hype seriously $hitty games like Neir for example. Oh my GOD that game is crap. And they don't just hype these games they act like these games are like the second coming. You gotta be real careful about the recomendations on here.

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#83 Pray_to_me
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I own both games on PC and Skyrim is way better.

Slimmin360

Really? Why? What exactly makes it better, i would really like to know, since i don't own the Witcher 2 yet.....is it the story, combat, graphics, gameplay...i'm very curious.

Don't get me wrong. The Witcher 2 is a good game. The graphics are amazing. Story is decent. I got it for $40 when it first came out so it was a good deal.

But Skyrim is a much more open world with like 5 times the content. I actually don't usually give that much of a damn how "open" a game is. But I found the side quests to be very interesting. Which compelled me to explore even more. Every sidequest seemed to branch out to something epic. It didn't feel like an offline MMO with a bunch of copy paste quests.

Witcher 2 on the otherhand had a good main story that felt rather short. Perhaps 15-20 hours. And the side quests were pretty meh. A bunch of bountys and stuff. After I did a few I just didn't feel compelled to do any more. Overall it was like Skyrim was like 4 or 5 Witcher 2's rolled into 1. Where Witcher 2 was like 20 hours of epic Skyrim was like 80.

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I loved Skyrim, but I'm gonna have to say the Witcher 2 is better. It's more story and character focused than Skyrim is and less about massive world exploring. But even though I love skryim, I wouldn't consider it the best RPG on the 360 since Tales of Vesperia takes that cake (also love the whole ME series more than skryim too). The Witcher 2 will be a fine addition to the 360's library and even though I already have the PC version, I'm getting the dark edition for 360 (gotta have that artbook) and can play it some more to get the achievments. So yup, it's better than Skyrim.

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#85 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

I own both games on PC and Skyrim is way better.

Pray_to_me

Really? Why? What exactly makes it better, i would really like to know, since i don't own the Witcher 2 yet.....is it the story, combat, graphics, gameplay...i'm very curious.

Don't get me wrong. The Witcher 2 is a good game. The graphics are amazing. Story is decent. I got it for $40 when it first came out so it was a good deal.

But Skyrim is a much more open world with like 5 times the content. I actually don't usually give that much of a damn how "open" a game is. But I found the side quests to be very interesting. Which compelled me to explore even more. Every sidequest seemed to branch out to something epic. It didn't feel like an offline MMO with a bunch of copy paste quests.

Witcher 2 on the otherhand had a good main story that felt rather short. Perhaps 15-20 hours. And the side quests were pretty meh. A bunch of bountys and stuff. After I did a few I just didn't feel compelled to do any more. Overall it was like Skyrim was like 4 or 5 Witcher 2's rolled into 1. Where Witcher 2 was like 20 hours of epic Skyrim was like 80.

How do you not even play the game a 2nd time? You didnt want to see the other path you didnt take? (Roches/Iorveths)

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#86 princeofshapeir
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he called skyrim the best RPG on 360!!!!

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#87 krisk7
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1. Skyrim is not the best RPG - it's the RPG with the biggest marketing budget.

2. Witcher 2 and Skyrim are different kinds of RPG (story focused W2 vs. sandbox TES).

3. I prefer the Witcher.

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#88 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Slashless"]

There's this thing called Fallout new Vegas... it has that crown locked and sealed my friend.

I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.

Yes it is. A lot of people in System Wars hype seriously $hitty games like Neir for example. Oh my GOD that game is crap. And they don't just hype these games they act like these games are like the second coming. You gotta be real careful about the recomendations on here.

NV is seriously such a bad game...and I thought FO3 wasn't that great....
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#89 Slashless
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] I lol'd. New Vegas is crap.ShadowsDemon

Yes it is. A lot of people in System Wars hype seriously $hitty games like Neir for example. Oh my GOD that game is crap. And they don't just hype these games they act like these games are like the second coming. You gotta be real careful about the recomendations on here.

NV is seriously such a bad game...and I thought FO3 wasn't that great....

Are you a fan of any bethesda titles/mass effect?
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I prefer the Sandbox style to a story-driven RPG. Just holds my attention longer.

And can someone give me a legit reason on why Skyrim is such a terrible game

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#91 N30F3N1X
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Yes it is. A lot of people in System Wars hype seriously $hitty games like Neir for example. Oh my GOD that game is crap. And they don't just hype these games they act like these games are like the second coming. You gotta be real careful about the recomendations on here.

Pray_to_me

The fact that you don't have the gray matter to comprehend games like New Vegas doesn't mean they're crap.

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#92 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Yes it is. A lot of people in System Wars hype seriously $hitty games like Neir for example. Oh my GOD that game is crap. And they don't just hype these games they act like these games are like the second coming. You gotta be real careful about the recomendations on here.

Slashless

NV is seriously such a bad game...and I thought FO3 wasn't that great....

Are you a fan of any bethesda titles/mass effect?

:| Considering that I have the Skyrim platinum in my sig, which requires over 150 hours of gameplay, yes I'd say so. :|

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#93 Slashless
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[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] NV is seriously such a bad game...and I thought FO3 wasn't that great....ShadowsDemon

Are you a fan of any bethesda titles/mass effect?

:| Considering that I have the Skyrim platinum in my sig, which requires over 150 hours of gameplay, yes I'd say so. :|

Ah alright. Well, here's the problem kid. EVERYTHING Fallout New Vegas does bad, so does Skyrim. Glitches? Check Poor animations? Check. Weak combat? Skyrim's combat is some of the worst out there? Not to mention Fallout New Vegas does EVERYTHING better than Skyrim. Content Soundtrack Writing (My nephew can outwrite Skyrim) Replayability RPG Mechanics Characters Variety of Gameplay (though I admit Skyrim does this most excellently) And much more. Skyrim might, do the setting a bit better. That is it. So calling new Vegas "bad" and turning around and calling Skyrim "AMAZING OMG" is stupid as sh*t. Refer to my blog for more ownage.
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#94 Zurrur
Member since 2009 • 1701 Posts

Witcher 2 is a horrible game, first few hours are okey but once game opens up its a terrible unfinished mess

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#95 ShadowsDemon
Member since 2012 • 10059 Posts

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]

[QUOTE="Slashless"] Are you a fan of any bethesda titles/mass effect?Slashless

:| Considering that I have the Skyrim platinum in my sig, which requires over 150 hours of gameplay, yes I'd say so. :|

Ah alright. Well, here's the problem kid. EVERYTHING Fallout New Vegas does bad, so does Skyrim. Glitches? Check Poor animations? Check. Weak combat? Skyrim's combat is some of the worst out there? Not to mention Fallout New Vegas does EVERYTHING better than Skyrim. Content Soundtrack Writing (My nephew can outwrite Skyrim) Replayability RPG Mechanics Characters Variety of Gameplay (though I admit Skyrim does this most excellently) And much more. Skyrim might, do the setting a bit better. That is it. So calling new Vegas "bad" and turning around and calling Skyrim "AMAZING OMG" is stupid as sh*t. Refer to my blog for more ownage.

Skyrim and NV are completely different games. I hated NV but I loved Skyrim for different reasons, and I love fantasy games. Just sayin'

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#96 nismo8000
Member since 2007 • 1000 Posts

1. Thrown is the past tense of throw.

2. A Throne is what royalty like Skyrim sits on.

They are totally different types of games so really comparing one to the other is stupid. Skyrim is more about character building and phat lewts. The Witcher is very much about story and how your decisions affect the world and not really about loot or your character as much.

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#97 STARTNPLAY1
Member since 2012 • 53 Posts
Witcher 2 wins why sex scenes >>> arrow to the knee
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#98 Coyful
Member since 2011 • 373 Posts
That is a really odd way to spell Dark Souls.
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#99 ShadowsDemon
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Witcher 2 wins why sex scenes >>> arrow to the kneeSTARTNPLAY1
This is an instant sign of immaturity. Sex scenes making a game. :roll:
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#100 Vraeth
Member since 2005 • 1208 Posts

Compared to Fallout 1 and 2 or Planescape Torment everything is crap.

But compared to Skyrim? New Vegas makes Skyrim look like a toy for illiterate outcasts.

...and you're not one of them, right?

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Overrated imo (I hate using the term, but damn, if there's ever been 3 games that I hear about constantly that I just didn't "get")

Awesome games, but I've never really understood the fanatical devotion to them. I really didn't find them to be this paragon of gaming never to be achieved again, wheres the BG series and ES series (MW in particular) left me amazed. I'd still not say that no game has come close to their quality in the modern day, though. Hell, Halo CE left me more amazed than those games.

Just me.