Will The Witcher 2 De-Thrown Skyrim as The Best RPG On 360 ?

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#101 Coyful
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Hey!!... C'mon now, I'll just leave these here... and say it again: DARK SOULS!

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#102 ShadowsDemon
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Yes, we got it the first time...
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#103 N30F3N1X
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Overrated imo (I hate using the term, but damn, if there's ever been 3 games that I hear about constantly that I just didn't "get")

Awesome games, but I've never really understood the fanatical devotion to them. I really didn't find them to be this paragon of gaming never to be achieved again, wheres the BG series and ES series (MW in particular) left me amazed. I'd still not say that no game has come close to their quality in the modern day, though. Hell, Halo CE left me more amazed than those games.

Just me.

Vraeth

You want a better comparison, you can make it yourself. My point was just that New Vegas craps over Skyrim as an RPG.

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#104 Ballroompirate
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You know its already out for PC right?

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#105 Vraeth
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You want a better comparison, you can make it yourself. My point was just that New Vegas craps over Skyrim as an RPG.

N30F3N1X

Nah, I actually agree with you.

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#106 tjricardo089
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I doubt it, Skyrim is already well sitted on the throne, but you never know..

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#107 LustForSoul
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Who's throwing Skyrim?
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#108 Floppy_Jim
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That's adorable, people think Skyrim is better than Dark Souls.
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#109 delta3074
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i don't think so, not in my opinion anyway.
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#110 delta3074
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That's adorable, people think Skyrim is better than Dark Souls.Floppy_Jim
To be fair it is better,lol
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#111 KC_Hokie
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Maybe. I wouldn't mind though since Skyrim may be my favorite game this generation. If a game tops that I'm all for it.
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#112 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]That's adorable, people think Skyrim is better than Dark Souls.delta3074
To be fair it is better,lol

Maybe in Bizzarro world, where games that do everything poorly are considered good.
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#113 Slashless
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Maybe in Bizzarro world, where games that do everything poorly are considered good.

Dark link, that IS the real world. :|
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#114 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Maybe in Bizzarro world, where games that do everything poorly are considered good.

Dark link, that IS the real world. :|

It is, unfortunately. However, those people who believe such things are no less wrong.
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#115 delta3074
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Maybe in Bizzarro world, where games that do everything poorly are considered good.

Dark link, that IS the real world. :|

It is, unfortunately. However, those people who believe such things are no less wrong.

opinions can't be wrong dude, in my opinion Skyrim is better than dark souls, just the way it is i am afraid.
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#117 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Slashless"] Dark link, that IS the real world. :|

It is, unfortunately. However, those people who believe such things are no less wrong.

opinions can't be wrong dude, in my opinion Skyrim is better than dark souls, just the way it is i am afraid.

Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.
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#118 delta3074
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It is, unfortunately. However, those people who believe such things are no less wrong.

opinions can't be wrong dude, in my opinion Skyrim is better than dark souls, just the way it is i am afraid.

Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.

which is your opinion
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#119 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="delta3074"]opinions can't be wrong dude, in my opinion Skyrim is better than dark souls, just the way it is i am afraid.delta3074
Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.

which is your opinion

Nope. Objectivity is not an opinion. Sorry.
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#120 N30F3N1X
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which is your opiniondelta3074

Drop the circular logic.

Either elaborate or stop posting. Saying "it's your opinion"/"it's my opinion" can be fine for a middle school rant and that's it. People who have grown a brain know if it was all just a matter of opinions then every discussion would be pointless.

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#121 STARTNPLAY1
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[QUOTE="STARTNPLAY1"]Witcher 2 wins why sex scenes >>> arrow to the kneeShadowsDemon
This is an instant sign of immaturity. Sex scenes making a game. :roll:

youngings worry about acting mature you will do well to understand that :P
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#122 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]which is your opinionN30F3N1X

Drop the circular logic.

Either elaborate or stop posting. Saying "it's your opinion"/"it's my opinion" can be fine for a middle school rant and that's it. People who have grown a brain know if it was all just a matter of opinions then every discussion would be pointless.

get a life dude, i wasn't even talking to you, and i will decide whether to stop posting or not thankyou very much,muppet, also check my posting history, more than half a brain confirmed, objectively, as in scores, Dark souls has the higher scores, which in themselves are somebodys OPINION,and i was just Effing with darkilink anyway, so do us all a favor,actually post something that contributes to the discussion instead of commenting on how people write and post.
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#123 N30F3N1X
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get a life dude, i wasn't even talking to you, and i will decide whether to stop posting or not thankyou very much,muppet, also check my posting history, more than half a brain confirmed, objectively, as in scores, Dark souls has the higher scores, which in themselves are somebodys OPINION,and i was just Effing with darkilink anyway, so do us all a favor,actually post something that contributes to the discussion instead of commenting on how people write and post.delta3074

"get a life"

:lol:

Didn't even read the rest of the post, must be nice living under a rock.

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#124 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]get a life dude, i wasn't even talking to you, and i will decide whether to stop posting or not thankyou very much,muppet, also check my posting history, more than half a brain confirmed, objectively, as in scores, Dark souls has the higher scores, which in themselves are somebodys OPINION,and i was just Effing with darkilink anyway, so do us all a favor,actually post something that contributes to the discussion instead of commenting on how people write and post.N30F3N1X

"get a life"

:lol:

Didn't even read the rest of the post, must be nice living under a rock.

i don't know, you tell me, whats it like living under a rock? i am assuming you have extensive experience of the latter.
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#125 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]get a life dude, i wasn't even talking to you, and i will decide whether to stop posting or not thankyou very much,muppet, also check my posting history, more than half a brain confirmed, objectively, as in scores, Dark souls has the higher scores, which in themselves are somebodys OPINION,and i was just Effing with darkilink anyway, so do us all a favor,actually post something that contributes to the discussion instead of commenting on how people write and post.delta3074

"get a life"

:lol:

Didn't even read the rest of the post, must be nice living under a rock.

i don't know, you tell me, whats it like living under a rock? i am assuming you have extensive experience of the latter.

Was that supposed to be offensive? I'm not a simpleton, I wouldn't know.

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#126 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

"get a life"

:lol:

Didn't even read the rest of the post, must be nice living under a rock.

N30F3N1X

i don't know, you tell me, whats it like living under a rock? i am assuming you have extensive experience of the latter.

Was that supposed to be offensive? I'm not a simpleton, I wouldn't know.

neither am i, trust me:)
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#127 NoSpeakyEnglish
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Skyrim is the most overrated game ever. Certainly didn't live up to my expectations and I'm sure many other veteran ES players were disappointed. That said 360 has a ton of RPG's that are several times better than Skyrim, including it's predeccesor.

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#128 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Slashless"] Dark link, that IS the real world. :|delta3074
It is, unfortunately. However, those people who believe such things are no less wrong.

opinions can't be wrong dude, in my opinion Skyrim is better than dark souls, just the way it is i am afraid.

That's also my opinion.
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#129 Vraeth
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Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.DarkLink77

He's really not.

A lot of the BAWWWWWWW about Skyrim is trite, untrue, or not even close to objective.

Not to mention that the games are really nothing alike other than the fact that they have swords, magic and dragons--which is apparently all you need in common for the simpletons on GS to consider it similar enough to merit a comparison.

Not to mention Skyrim netted a 96 metascore to Dark Soul's 89.

So, actually, that's just your opinion, man.

For the record I like Dark Souls way better.

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#130 Vraeth
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Skyrim is the most overrated game ever. Certainly didn't live up to my expectations and I'm sure many other veteran ES players were disappointed. That said 360 has a ton of RPG's that are several times better than Skyrim, including it's predeccesor.

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FF6 just called and would like to disagree.

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#131 Slimmin360
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Witcher 2 is a horrible game, first few hours are okey but once game opens up its a terrible unfinished mess

Zurrur
What are you basing this statement on ? Certainly not reviews, because the Witcher 2 reviews are phenomenal everywhere you look. Maybe your just very biased to Bethesda.
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#132 Heil68
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You know its already out for PC right?

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lulz...Well said.
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#133 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Vraeth"]

Overrated imo (I hate using the term, but damn, if there's ever been 3 games that I hear about constantly that I just didn't "get")

Awesome games, but I've never really understood the fanatical devotion to them. I really didn't find them to be this paragon of gaming never to be achieved again, wheres the BG series and ES series (MW in particular) left me amazed. I'd still not say that no game has come close to their quality in the modern day, though. Hell, Halo CE left me more amazed than those games.

Just me.

N30F3N1X

You want a better comparison, you can make it yourself. My point was just that New Vegas craps over Skyrim as an RPG.

Oh please New Vegas wasn't even anywhere near as good as Fallout 3, so what are you talking about?
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#134 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.Vraeth

He's really not.

A lot of the BAWWWWWWW about Skyrim is trite, untrue, or not even close to objective.

Not to mention that the games are really nothing alike other than the fact that they have swords, magic and dragons--which is apparently all you need in common for the simpletons on GS to consider it similar enough to merit a comparison.

Not to mention Skyrim netted a 96 metascore to Dark Soul's 89.

So, actually, that's just your opinion, man.

For the record I like Dark Souls way better.

Such as?

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#135 Slashless
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Oh please New Vegas wasn't even anywhere near as good as Fallout 3Slimmin360

:lol:

Funny man.

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#136 Vraeth
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[QUOTE="Vraeth"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Ah, yes, the "Well, it's just my opinion, man" card. You're still wrong from an objective standpoint.DarkLink77

He's really not.

A lot of the BAWWWWWWW about Skyrim is trite, untrue, or not even close to objective.

Not to mention that the games are really nothing alike other than the fact that they have swords, magic and dragons--which is apparently all you need in common for the simpletons on GS to consider it similar enough to merit a comparison.

Not to mention Skyrim netted a 96 metascore to Dark Soul's 89.

So, actually, that's just your opinion, man.

For the record I like Dark Souls way better.

Such as?

"Combat sucks"

It's the best in the series.

"Story sucks"

Better than Oblivion, not quite as good as Morrowind (which itself is a partial Dune rip-off, but most stories imitate others so it gets a pass) and FAR better than either DS game. Witcher 1 and 2 blows both out of the water without even slowing down in this category.

"Graphics suck"

Wrong. DS has an edge in animation, but as far as overall? I really don't see how DS surpasses it. Constantly over-dark corridors don't make awesome graphics. Again, Witcher 2 blows both out of the water in quality and style.

"repetitive"

I'll give it that, but the same could be said of DS.

I'm not here to say one game is better than the other, and as I mentioned, I think DS is better. My objection was mostly to your implication that somehow that your opinion that DS > ES5 is a fact is a bit pretentious. They're nothing alike, so the comparison itself is rather silly, but to state one is definitively better than the other? You're talking about two top tier games that are not even competing. That's like saying Michael Jordan is a better athlete than Barry Bonds (though I'll admit, I don't think either game would rate that high, relatively).

At least TC's Witcher 2 vs. Skyrim comparison was SP WRPG vs. SP WRPG instead of MP JRPG vs. SP WRPG (and you can't deny that one of the most SIGNIFICANT aspects of the Souls games is the unique online interaction). And even as simply a single player game, the Souls games have far more in common with games like the PS/GBA/DS Castlevania games than they do with Skyrim. Hell, they have more to do with Metroid and Zelda than they do with Skyrim. It's just a pointless comparison.

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#137 silversix_
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Skyrim isn't even the best lol Dark Souls, F3, Fallout NV, Mass Effect 1, Bioshock (if you count this one as rpg) are all MUCH better than Mehrim.
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#138 cfstar
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"Combat sucks"

1)It's the best in the series.

"Story sucks"

2)Better than Oblivion, not quite as good as Morrowind (which itself is a partial Dune rip-off, but most stories imitate others so it gets a pass) and FAR better than either DS game. Witcher 1 and 2 blows both out of the water without even slowing down in this category.

"Graphics suck"

3)Wrong. DS has an edge in animation, but as far as overall? I really don't see how DS surpasses it. Constantly over-dark corridors don't make awesome graphics. Again, Witcher 2 blows both out of the water in quality and style.

4)"repetitive"

Vraeth

1)That doesn't mean it's good

2)That doesn't mean it's good either.

3)really? cause the textures in Dark Souls have FAR higher resolution in average, some textures in Skyrim are PS2 worthy, and i'm not exagerating with that.

the trees, the armors, the enviroments.... graphically, Skyrim looks good FROM A FAR, up close, it has A LOT of rough edges(although, in it's defense, that isn't a surprise considering it's size).

4)fair enough, but whatever another game does, doesn't make another any better or any worse.

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#139 Vraeth
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1)That doesn't mean it's good

2)That doesn't mean it's good either.

3)really? cause the textures in Dark Souls have FAR higher resolution in average, some textures in Skyrim are PS2, and i'm not exagerating with that.

4)fair enough, but whatever another game does, doesn't make another any better or any worse.

cfstar

1) But it ain't all that bad either.

2) See 1 (and the comparison is to DS, in which case, it's way better).

3) The textures are better because it has nowhere near the same expansiveness. I'd be tempted to give DS the edge in style, though, but like everything about ****ing DS and Skyrim, they're neither trying to be or are anything alike.

4) Both are repetitive, but the same could be said of plenty of games; I don't have a problem. I like what they got.

As I've mentioned, I think DS is a better game--my main contention is this idea that thinking Skyrim is worse than DS is a fact is ridiculous, mostly because they're nothing alike.

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#140 nismo8000
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"3)really? cause the textures in Dark Souls have FAR higher resolution in average, some textures in Skyrim are PS2 worthy, and i'm not exagerating with that." you need to step away from the crack rocks immediately. the textures in skyrim before AND after the high res patch poop on dark souls's.
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#141 cain006
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I'd say that New Vegas is the best rpg on 360, and judging by The first Witcher, The Witcher 2 isn't a good game.