Will Xbox One Win NA by the end of the year? Pt.1

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#1  Edited By TigerSuperman
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Please voice your opinion and reason below.

The Xbox one, along with April looking very suspect in terms of possible Xbox one wins with all the evidence on the Xbox One's side put ASIDE as that's too much of an advantage-

Is only less than 750k from the PS4, and at the current rate, the PS4 will either have a lesser gap by the same time as last year of the 1.1 million gap, or it will likely remain flat or close to flat.

But enough about that, last holiday season the Xbox One had Halo MCC*, Great deals, and huge marketing campagins and sold 2.4+ million in America. Severely cutting the PS3's lead.

This time we will have a restructured E3 and Gamescom which will create hype, Fable, Tomb Raider, a bigger Forza, Halo 5, TP deals like the Witcher, and the Division to name just a few, and likely, more deals along with a massive marketing campaign.

it looking likely that the Xbox One, even if all the games flop with 5's, will take the least in NA in between July and December. Add in armored price drop to that and those sales will crash not only through the roof, but the ozone layer, we won't have to worry about that no more.

But of course some people don't believe it's possible and if you believe that I have something for you, the Xbox one launch was a disaster, yet the Xbox one sold a million outside the U.S. and over 1 million in the U.S. the month after, in it's first 2 months, leading to a 3 million consoles sold. Right now in the present, the PS4 still can't manage a 10 million consoles gap, and there's a lot of people aroudn the internet complaining about support, or lackluster lin-eup Blood Borne excluded.

If heavy backlash didn't kill U.S. sales momentum for the XBox one at all, and I mean HEAVY backlash, then I don't see how anyone could believe Xbox one does not have a very very very strong chance of winning NA THIS YEAR(2015).

But this is a survey so please vote for what you believe and post your opinions.

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#2  Edited By freedomfreak
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What's going on, man?

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#3 silversix_
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Do you fap to sales?

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#4  Edited By Bigboi500
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Why do you care, I mean obsess, about sales so much?

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#5 Zero_epyon
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No.

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Crazy. Person.

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#7 lostrib
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Why is there more than one part?

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#8 misterpmedia
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@Zero_epyon said:

No.

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I can't wait for the sequel.

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@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

seven...hundred....k.....gapp..... onlyy..... so far.

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#11 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Sigh.

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#12  Edited By davem1992
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No, it won't.

Now stop making these ridiculous threads and deal with it, you've lost this gen.

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#13 deactivated-5f26ed7cf0697
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No. And stop dreaming!

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Sigh.

Lol come on.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

seven...hundred....k.....gapp..... onlyy..... so far.

...that is only going to get larger until what, November? It's a 700K gap now, it will be more by the time Microsoft come out with the desperate promos for holiday season. It's the only reason they sold so well last time, and undercutting the competition significantly.

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lolno.

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#17 TigerSuperman
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@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

seven...hundred....k.....gapp..... onlyy..... so far.

...that is only going to get larger until what, November? It's a 700K gap now, it will be more by the time Microsoft come out with the desperate promos for holiday season. It's the only reason they sold so well last time, and undercutting the competition significantly.

It's not. The PS4 would have to sell 500kish, BEFORE October, (not november), as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million.

Where's that coming from? it's not coming from April, May June, July and August.

April, May, Nad June are low months. August is sometimes boosted by games or Games Come, E3 for July. But July still is pretty low. April-July is probably going to be below 270k going by historical trends.

Then both are getting the same games. The price points of both are reaching their saturation point, especially the PS4's.

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#18 xhawk27
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In the number of great Exclusive games, yes it will. :)

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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:

It's not. The PS4 would have to sell 500kish, BEFORE October, (not november), as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million.

Where's that coming from? it's not coming from April, May June, July and August.

April, May, Nad June are low months. August is sometimes boosted by games or Games Come, E3 for July. But July still is pretty low. April-July is probably going to be below 270k going by historical trends.

Then both are getting the same games. The price points of both are reaching their saturation point, especially the PS4's.

and what makes you think the PS4 won't be winning those NPDs with a 100K gap? The PS4 doesn't have to sell a big number to have a 100K gap.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:
@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

seven...hundred....k.....gapp..... onlyy..... so far.

...that is only going to get larger until what, November? It's a 700K gap now, it will be more by the time Microsoft come out with the desperate promos for holiday season. It's the only reason they sold so well last time, and undercutting the competition significantly.

It's not. The PS4 would have to sell 500kish, BEFORE October, (not november), as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million.

Where's that coming from? it's not coming from April, May June, July and August.

April, May, Nad June are low months. August is sometimes boosted by games or Games Come, E3 for July. But July still is pretty low. April-July is probably going to be below 270k going by historical trends.

Then both are getting the same games. The price points of both are reaching their saturation point, especially the PS4's.

So the PS4 won't sell at all during the holiday?

Why do I feel like I'm talking to @nyadc?

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@Zero_epyon said:
@TigerSuperman said:

It's not. The PS4 would have to sell 500kish, BEFORE October, (not november), as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million.

Where's that coming from? it's not coming from April, May June, July and August.

April, May, Nad June are low months. August is sometimes boosted by games or Games Come, E3 for July. But July still is pretty low. April-July is probably going to be below 270k going by historical trends.

Then both are getting the same games. The price points of both are reaching their saturation point, especially the PS4's.

So the PS4 won't sell at all during the holiday?

Why do I feel like I'm talking to @nyadc?

Yep because the term "they are both getting the same games", and the "below 270k" which is in direct refernece to the PS4 in sales, means I'm saying the the PS4 won't sell.

LAWD have marcy.

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@misterpmedia said:

and what makes you think the PS4 won't be winning those NPDs with a 100K gap? The PS4 doesn't have to sell a big number to have a 100K gap.

PS4 has nothing TO make a 100k gap. In fact the only month the PS4 has had a 100k gap in the last 12 months is September with Destiny and March with Bloodborne. Why would all of a sudden, April-August have 100k gaps?

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#23  Edited By misterpmedia
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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:

and what makes you think the PS4 won't be winning those NPDs with a 100K gap? The PS4 doesn't have to sell a big number to have a 100K gap.

PS4 has nothing TO make a 100k gap. In fact the only month the PS4 has had a 100k gap in the last 12 months is September with Destiny and March with Bloodborne. Why would all of a sudden, April-August have 100k gaps?

The xbone selling poorly. The xbone has literally no games until the holiday season, when last year it had all sorts. With the PS4 being the more desirable and popular console in general, it's definitely plausible.

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Talk about delusions of grandeur.

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#25  Edited By Dire_Weasel
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@TigerSuperman said:
@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

seven...hundred....k.....gapp..... onlyy..... so far.

Anyone can make predictions, that's fine.

You, on the other hand, are making sales prediction threads at rate that indicates that you're actually deranged.

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#26 Kjranu
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Let's be easy on the TC, lest he goes beyond having a simple mental breakdown.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@TigerSuperman said:

It's not. The PS4 would have to sell 500kish, BEFORE October, (not november), as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million.

Where's that coming from? it's not coming from April, May June, July and August.

April, May, Nad June are low months. August is sometimes boosted by games or Games Come, E3 for July. But July still is pretty low. April-July is probably going to be below 270k going by historical trends.

Then both are getting the same games. The price points of both are reaching their saturation point, especially the PS4's.

So the PS4 won't sell at all during the holiday?

Why do I feel like I'm talking to @nyadc?

Yep because the term "they are both getting the same games", and the "below 270k" which is in direct refernece to the PS4 in sales, means I'm saying the the PS4 won't sell.

LAWD have marcy.

Think for just one second. You're saying that the PS4 would have to sell an additional 500K more than the Xbox One in order for it to not be outsold by it, "BEFORE" October. Seems to imply that over the Holidays, the Xbox will sell 1.2 Million while the PS4 sells nothing. It's the only way your math would work.

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@Zero_epyon said:

Think for just one second. You're saying that the PS4 would have to sell an additional 500K more than the Xbox One in order for it to not be outsold by it, "BEFORE" October. Seems to imply that over the Holidays, the Xbox will sell 1.2 Million while the PS4 sells nothing. It's the only way your math would work.

Actually no, uh I also used the term, stay with me now I know I'm going fast, "as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million" did you catch that?

@misterpmedia said:

The xbone selling poorly. The xbone has literally no games until the holiday season, when last year it had all sorts. With the PS4 being the more desirable and popular console in general, it's definitely plausible.

The Xbox one isn't selling poorly. The PS4 has been struggling to get ahead of the Xbox one for quite some time to believe it's set as some sort of more desired console. Also neither have games until the holidays as far as we know.

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Cool story, book was better.

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#30  Edited By misterpmedia
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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:

The xbone selling poorly. The xbone has literally no games until the holiday season, when last year it had all sorts. With the PS4 being the more desirable and popular console in general, it's definitely plausible.

The Xbox one isn't selling poorly. The PS4 has been struggling to get ahead of the Xbox one for quite some time to believe it's set as some sort of more desired console. Also neither have games until the holidays as far as we know.

It is though. The PS4 hasn't been struggling at all, source for this? If the Xbone is the more desirable console then why aren't people buying it and why isn't it pounding the PS4 like the PS4 is pounding the Xbone?

Quite right, both don't have major games until the holidays but the PS4 still sells miles better than the Xbone despite that fact anyway lol, which highlights my point that the PS4 is the more desired and more popular console. For example next NPD could be horrific for hardware sales like Xbone 70k and PS4 170K, that's a still a 100K difference. Sales don't have to be stellar for there to be a gap.

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#31 Zero_epyon
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@TigerSuperman said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Think for just one second. You're saying that the PS4 would have to sell an additional 500K more than the Xbox One in order for it to not be outsold by it, "BEFORE" October. Seems to imply that over the Holidays, the Xbox will sell 1.2 Million while the PS4 sells nothing. It's the only way your math would work.

Actually no, uh I also used the term, stay with me now I know I'm going fast, "as that is the time the gap was 1.1 million" did you catch that?

@misterpmedia said:

The xbone selling poorly. The xbone has literally no games until the holiday season, when last year it had all sorts. With the PS4 being the more desirable and popular console in general, it's definitely plausible.

The Xbox one isn't selling poorly. The PS4 has been struggling to get ahead of the Xbox one for quite some time to believe it's set as some sort of more desired console. Also neither have games until the holidays as far as we know.

You have completely lost me with your nonsense....

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#32  Edited By xhawk27
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I know for sure it's going to win November and December. lol

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Really dude just shut the hell up already.

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#34  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@misterpmedia said:

It is though. The PS4 hasn't been struggling at all, source for this? If the Xbone is the more desirable console then why aren't people buying it and why isn't it pounding the PS4 like the PS4 is pounding the Xbone?

Quite right, both don't have major games until the holidays but the PS4 still sells miles better than the Xbone despite that fact anyway lol, which highlights my point that the PS4 is the more desired and more popular console. For example next NPD could be horrific for hardware sales like Xbone 70k and PS4 170K, that's a still a 100K difference. Sales don't have to be stellar for there to be a gap.

This is NA, the PS4 is struggling to otusell the Xbox one, if things were as set as you keep saying what's taking so long for the PS4 to have a significant lead? PS4 doesn't sell "miles" better in NA, which is what this thread is.

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#35  Edited By misterpmedia
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@TigerSuperman said:

This is NA, the PS4 is struggling to otusell the Xbox one, if things were as set as you keep saying what's taking so long for the PS4 to have a significant lead? PS4 doesn't sell "miles" better in NA, which is what this thread is.

What part of my post made you think I wasn't talking about NA? 100K more is miles better, I don't see why the Xbone will suddenly ramp up sales with no current releases so the gap will only get larger for April NPD. The PS4 still has a significant lead LOL.

link or show me how the PS4 is 'struggling'.

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Yes it is 100% possible.

If not I'll try winng some big lottery and buying 700,000 myself, lol.

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#37 misterpmedia
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Yes it is 100% possible.

If not I'll try winng some big lottery and buying 700,000 myself, lol.

lol post a selfie of you in the forklift carrying the pallets home :P

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@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:

This is NA, the PS4 is struggling to otusell the Xbox one, if things were as set as you keep saying what's taking so long for the PS4 to have a significant lead? PS4 doesn't sell "miles" better in NA, which is what this thread is.

What part of my post made you think I wasn't talking about NA? 100K more is miles better, I don't see why the Xbone will suddenly ramp up sales with no current releases so the gap will only get larger for April NPD. The PS4 still has a significant lead LOL.

link or show me how the PS4 is 'struggling'.

Because the thread is about America

Also yes Sony is struggling to outsell the Xbox one In America by a significant margin, and I don't need a link for that.

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@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

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#41  Edited By misterpmedia
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@TigerSuperman said:

Because the thread is about America

Also yes Sony is struggling to outsell the Xbox one In America by a significant margin, and I don't need a link for that.

And i was talking about America, so not sure why you had to state this is about NPD...

100K last month is significant and the PS4 still has an overall significant lead, I don't need a link for that either. It may even be 100K+ for April NPD.

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@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:

Because the thread is about America

Also yes Sony is struggling to outsell the Xbox one In America by a significant margin, and I don't need a link for that.

And i was talking about America, so not sure why you had to state this is about NPD...

100K last month is significant and the PS4 still has an overall significant lead, I don't need a link for that either. It may even be 100K+ for April NPD.

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:

Because the thread is about America

Also yes Sony is struggling to outsell the Xbox one In America by a significant margin, and I don't need a link for that.

And i was talking about America, so not sure why you had to state this is about NPD...

100K last month is significant and the PS4 still has an overall significant lead, I don't need a link for that either. It may even be 100K+ for April NPD.

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

lolwat?

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I have now decided to buy the Batman AK PS4 Bundle.

Thanks TC.

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#45 misterpmedia
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@TigerSuperman said:

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

You're assuming Xbone sales plateau or increase, which if the pattern shows, is not going to happen lol. Like I've already stated, the PS4 could be down YoY but so could the Xbone. There's literally no variable that shows any sign of the Xbone increasing next NPD. So technically the PS4 could still sell as much as it did last NPD and the Xbone sell less than last NPD meaning the gap would be 100K+ still.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:
@TigerSuperman said:

Because the thread is about America

Also yes Sony is struggling to outsell the Xbox one In America by a significant margin, and I don't need a link for that.

And i was talking about America, so not sure why you had to state this is about NPD...

100K last month is significant and the PS4 still has an overall significant lead, I don't need a link for that either. It may even be 100K+ for April NPD.

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

Actually both consoles are down this year. 4% and 7% respectively for both the PS4 and the xbox one.

In the US the PS4 is selling great while the Xbox one is selling good.Worldwide including the US and other areas the xbox one is strong in the xbox one is selling okay while the ps4 is selling very well.

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#47  Edited By Chutebox
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@Chutebox said:
@TigerSuperman said:

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

lolwat?

So....link?

Are you talking down X1 or compared to last year?

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@TigerSuperman said:

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

Isn't Xboxone down by an even greater percentage?

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@daious said:
@TigerSuperman said:

NPD is America.............

The first 100k gap since Spet with Destiny, and yes I am including March. There's nothing to make another 100k gap to at the very least December. Which will also be the only month the PS4 has in order to make the gap BIGGER than the gap from last year.

You do know so far this year the PS4 is down right?

Isn't Xboxone down by an even greater percentage?

Yup!

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@freedomfreak said:

What's going on, man?

@silversix_ said:

Do you fap to sales?

@Bigboi500 said:

Why do you care, I mean obsess, about sales so much?

@Dire_Weasel said:

Crazy. Person.

@lostrib said:

Why is there more than one part?

@Ragnarok1051 said:

Really dude just shut the hell up already.