Will Xbox One Win NA by the end of the year? Pt.1

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Multi-quote chain wars

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#102 Catalli  Moderator
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Enough already.

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I think its time for you to be permabanned for a year. are we going to see XBOX wins JUNE NPD?

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#104 NyaDC
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Holiday season is november and december, including May, that's 6 months, not to mention NPD is in arrears too. Very nice mind gymnastics there lol. Although I'm well aware who I'm replying to.

In the conventional world yes, in terms of video games the holiday release train begins in September.

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@nyadc said:

In the conventional world yes, in terms of video games the holiday release train begins in September.

The holiday release train for video games begins in November as it's the start of the holiday season.

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Is there any big games hyped up PS4 this year, no its all going to be about Halo 5, MS is going to hype that game to extraordinary heights, its going to be the biggest game this year, while Sony sit there and take it, they'll send out messages to everyone, Greatness awaits

While gamers lineup in the streets for Halo 5, going to be the biggest launch in History

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It still is outpacing the Xbone by a nice amount though without struggling. It's ironic you asking me to use context when you don't use a shred of it LOL I've already stated that it doesn't matter if the PS4 or Xbone are up or down YoY, the PS4, compared to the Xbone, is still the more desirable, popular product and still has a significant lead in both NA and Worldwide, both of which will increase next NPD results.

The only reason the Xbone is up YoY cause of the huge price drops and instore promos to get rid of inventory, and that's still not helping it bridge the substantial lead PS4 has over it. It's outselling it with ease.

No it's actually not outpacing the Xbox one by a nice amount. Only one month so far has than been the case. it also does matter, if the Xbox one is up, then it's increasing faster than the PS4, while the before is Decreasing, this is simple stuff you should know. The PS4 does not have a "significant lead" in NA, you don't know what that word means do you?

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14 million....ahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Another argument pulled from deep deep down your ass..hahaha

Funny how you use a made up number for the xbox one but don't use the PS4 shipped numbers which are 22+ millions hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..

Trying to make that gap look smaller hahahahaa...

The PS4 outsold the xbox one by 250k in September no 100k,and on october it also outsold it but it was never known for how much,after that the xbox one price drops and freebies took effect,but between January and March they outsold the xbox one by more than 200k...lol

The PS3 outsold the xbox 360 pretty much all years but 2,even so they catch and pass MS,the xbox one will not do the same is losing every where and US will not help it case.

June last year gave the PS4 a 72k lead even that June was the month were the Kinectless sku was introduce at $399.lol

Fact is the lead will bemake back again,and this holiday unless the xbox one is dirt cheap again it will lose,a $299 PS4 would devastate the xbox one this holiday,it is at $349 and it can't even beat the $400 ps4..lol

It's not, I did say shipped you know that right? 14 and 22 shipped is not 10 million so you're just as dumb as you are every single time you post tormentos. I'm not trying to make any gap look smaller, you just don't know how to count. Because apparently you think to get from 14 million to 22 million you need 10 or more, which is sad.

They have not passed MS with the PS3, the 360 is still second until further notice. No outlet agrees with you because there's no info and the last shipments in 2014 had the 360 ahead.

After a month of 77k in may. You're june excuse is poor and also not even related to this conversation.

No it won't, the PS4 isn't selling over 500k more. Unless in September for some odd reason it gets a big boost. Also like I said PS4 is decresing, Xbox one is not, you start from different places, but eventually you'll pass each other. There's no real doubt the Xbox One will probably win NA by the end of the year.

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@shibua said:

Is there any big games hyped up PS4 this year, no its all going to be about Halo 5, MS is going to hype that game to extraordinary heights, its going to be the biggest game this year, while Sony sit there and take it, they'll send out messages to everyone, Greatness awaits

While gamers lineup in the streets for Halo 5, going to be the biggest launch in History

Yup, last time I was this hyped for a new Halo it was Halo 3 and we all know how big that was, gonna be huge me thinks.

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It's not, I did say shipped you know that right? 14 and 22 shipped is not 10 million so you're just as dumb as you are every single time you post tormentos. I'm not trying to make any gap look smaller, you just don't know how to count. Because apparently you think to get from 14 million to 22 million you need 10 or more, which is sad.

They have not passed MS with the PS3, the 360 is still second until further notice. No outlet agrees with you because there's no info and the last shipments in 2014 had the 360 ahead.

After a month of 77k in may. You're june excuse is poor and also not even related to this conversation.

No it won't, the PS4 isn't selling over 500k more. Unless in September for some odd reason it gets a big boost. Also like I said PS4 is decresing, Xbox one is not, you start from different places, but eventually you'll pass each other. There's no real doubt the Xbox One will probably win NA by the end of the year.

The xbox one hasn't ship 14 million units so unless you have a link you are pulling shit from your ass..hahaha

Worse you claim 20 million PS4 when is what 22.3 million shipped.?

The 14 million shipped is a made out number by you pulled from deep deep down your ass,and the PS4 didn't ship 20 it shipped 22 million so yeah you are over blowing xbox one numbers while reducing artificially the PS4 ones that is call trying to make the gap look smaller.

NO the xbox 360 is dead last considering the PS3 continues to outsold the xbox 360 WORLD WIDE.

The may 77k moron is because the price drop was coming in June and was known,so people held back and didn't buy it in may in order to buy it in june where it would be $100 cheaper,still failed to outsell the PS4,because at equal pricing the xbox one can't compete with the PS4,hell even now at $50 less still can't compete..hahaha

You keep holding to september as if it was a month were all sales spike idiot,in that month destiny came out which was a highly hyped game,that game boosted sales for both,more so for the PS4,but it can be any month where something hyped come out.

In September alone the PS4 outsold the xbox one by 250K add

April 2014 84k more.

May 2014 120k more.

June 2014 72k more.

July 2014 56K more.

August 2014 30k more.

September 2014 250K more.

October 2014 PS4 win numbers Unknow but effect expected to be the same as of may because people know on October that the xbox one would be $349 on November 2 with 2 free games,so i would say 100k conservatively.

That totals 712k From April to October,if i left out October which the PS4 won,still is 612k is actually more than the 500k you claim the PS4 will not be able to sell idiot.

So yeah once again you made out shit fail hahahahaa...........

By the way LINK to the 14 million shipped...hahaha

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@TigerSuperman said:
@misterpmedia said:

It still is outpacing the Xbone by a nice amount though without struggling. It's ironic you asking me to use context when you don't use a shred of it LOL I've already stated that it doesn't matter if the PS4 or Xbone are up or down YoY, the PS4, compared to the Xbone, is still the more desirable, popular product and still has a significant lead in both NA and Worldwide, both of which will increase next NPD results.

The only reason the Xbone is up YoY cause of the huge price drops and instore promos to get rid of inventory, and that's still not helping it bridge the substantial lead PS4 has over it. It's outselling it with ease.

No it's actually not outpacing the Xbox one by a nice amount. Only one month so far has than been the case. it also does matter, if the Xbox one is up, then it's increasing faster than the PS4, while the before is Decreasing, this is simple stuff you should know. The PS4 does not have a "significant lead" in NA, you don't know what that word means do you?

The PS4 has had a significant lead for pretty much most of the time it's been selling in NA, and this won't change. MS whittled it down a bit over the holidays because of huge promotions, and price slashing and Sony is already gaining it back with out even dropping the price. The bone sold more than it did the same time last year but why would that matter when you're being out sold be at least a 100K minimum. The significant lead is only going to get more significant as the months go on as patterns show, this is down to the PS4 being a more popular and desirable product. Ironic, again, for you to ask me such a question when you bury your head to think that 500 -750K lead isn't significant. Let me guess you think 1mil+ is a significant lead to make you feel better amirite? ;)

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It's not, I did say shipped you know that right? 14 and 22 shipped is not 10 million so you're just as dumb as you are every single time you post tormentos. I'm not trying to make any gap look smaller, you just don't know how to count. Because apparently you think to get from 14 million to 22 million you need 10 or more, which is sad.

They have not passed MS with the PS3, the 360 is still second until further notice. No outlet agrees with you because there's no info and the last shipments in 2014 had the 360 ahead.

After a month of 77k in may. You're june excuse is poor and also not even related to this conversation.

No it won't, the PS4 isn't selling over 500k more. Unless in September for some odd reason it gets a big boost. Also like I said PS4 is decresing, Xbox one is not, you start from different places, but eventually you'll pass each other. There's no real doubt the Xbox One will probably win NA by the end of the year.

And what notice are you waiting for? A public announcement from Sony that the PS3 overtook the 360? A public admittance by Microsoft that the PS3 surpassed the 360? Of course none of those things are gonna happen.

The month on month sales figures of the PS3 is evidence enough that they overtook or matched the 360 in lifetime sales. You simply block all that out because it doesn't suit your agenda. Instead you choose to wait for some public announcement of defeat by Microsoft which will never happen. You know this and that's why you set it as your criteria - so that the fragmented reality you choose to see doesn't contradict with your fantasy

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@TigerSuperman said:
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June will be 100K or more for sure with the limted edition Batman console. September could very well be another 100K gap if Sony smartens up and releases that MGSV PS4 in the US. I will say by October the lead will be 1 million or more in the US again. Worldwide...LMAO.

A lot people don't think it will happen, but if PS4 drops to $299 this Fall it is game for Xbox One. Halo 5, Tomb Raider, none of that will be able to counter a $100 price drop. The Battlefront limited edition PS4 will sell more than the Destiny bundle did this upcoming November.

It is really bad planning on Microsoft's part to put so much effort in only two months. Sony was kind of got caught off guard last Fall with the Xbox fire sales, but I will be really surprised if they just conceded the US again. They will had a full year to come up with a plan.

No it won't. Sept is the only chance, and it would have to be around 200k to just reach the exact gap of last year and maybe a sliver more, not really different.

June is not going to be 100k, it's JUNE, and also E3 etc, everythings going to be hyped for all 3 consoles, but ultimately it will also be a severely slow month. Also batman sold well on the 360, you seem to be forgetting this is NPD.

$299 price drop won't be a game over, this is NA. First off, Xbox would probably also drop, even then, PS4's biggest holiday games confirmed so far are also On XBox One,w hile Xbox one has big holiday games not on PS4 on top of that.

It might be a traditionally slow month, but that limited edition Batman PS4 will bump it up by a large amount. Xbox One has nothing to counter it. PS4 could sell 300k(likely) and Xbox One 200k or less(likely).

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@jhcho2 said:
@TigerSuperman said:

It's not, I did say shipped you know that right? 14 and 22 shipped is not 10 million so you're just as dumb as you are every single time you post tormentos. I'm not trying to make any gap look smaller, you just don't know how to count. Because apparently you think to get from 14 million to 22 million you need 10 or more, which is sad.

They have not passed MS with the PS3, the 360 is still second until further notice. No outlet agrees with you because there's no info and the last shipments in 2014 had the 360 ahead.

After a month of 77k in may. You're june excuse is poor and also not even related to this conversation.

No it won't, the PS4 isn't selling over 500k more. Unless in September for some odd reason it gets a big boost. Also like I said PS4 is decresing, Xbox one is not, you start from different places, but eventually you'll pass each other. There's no real doubt the Xbox One will probably win NA by the end of the year.

And what notice are you waiting for? A public announcement from Sony that the PS3 overtook the 360? A public admittance by Microsoft that the PS3 surpassed the 360? Of course none of those things are gonna happen.

The month on month sales figures of the PS3 is evidence enough that they overtook or matched the 360 in lifetime sales. You simply block all that out because it doesn't suit your agenda. Instead you choose to wait for some public announcement of defeat by Microsoft which will never happen. You know this and that's why you set it as your criteria - so that the fragmented reality you choose to see doesn't contradict with your fantasy

No they don't, you're agenda is that they won, according to both companies shipping information, MS has put out more. Sony wouldn't announce if they are ahead of Xbox 360 but they have announced sales milestones stand alone.

360 was ahead from June last year, and has a pretty big holiday this year. 360 isn't factually getting replaced by the nex gen consoles as the PS4 is over the PS3, especially in some european countries, Sales in Japan have been dead, and in NA and UK it's also pretty much on the low, so where's the sales coming from for a possible lead? nowhere.

There's no criteria, sales work with number, if one number is higher one number is higher. Heck you know you don't know and are arguing for no reason, because you backpedalled and said "or matched"

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@TigerSuperman said:
@StrongBlackVine said:

June will be 100K or more for sure with the limted edition Batman console. September could very well be another 100K gap if Sony smartens up and releases that MGSV PS4 in the US. I will say by October the lead will be 1 million or more in the US again. Worldwide...LMAO.

A lot people don't think it will happen, but if PS4 drops to $299 this Fall it is game for Xbox One. Halo 5, Tomb Raider, none of that will be able to counter a $100 price drop. The Battlefront limited edition PS4 will sell more than the Destiny bundle did this upcoming November.

It is really bad planning on Microsoft's part to put so much effort in only two months. Sony was kind of got caught off guard last Fall with the Xbox fire sales, but I will be really surprised if they just conceded the US again. They will had a full year to come up with a plan.

No it won't. Sept is the only chance, and it would have to be around 200k to just reach the exact gap of last year and maybe a sliver more, not really different.

June is not going to be 100k, it's JUNE, and also E3 etc, everythings going to be hyped for all 3 consoles, but ultimately it will also be a severely slow month. Also batman sold well on the 360, you seem to be forgetting this is NPD.

$299 price drop won't be a game over, this is NA. First off, Xbox would probably also drop, even then, PS4's biggest holiday games confirmed so far are also On XBox One,w hile Xbox one has big holiday games not on PS4 on top of that.

It might be a traditionally slow month, but that limited edition Batman PS4 will bump it up by a large amount. Xbox One has nothing to counter it. PS4 could sell 300k(likely) and Xbox One 200k or less(likely).

PS4 is down YOY, and E3 will be in June, Batman is also not Destiny so it reaching 300k or over is unlikely, especially since last june it also did less than that, and it's currently down yoy. Batman is not going to change trends around.

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@TigerSuperman: What is your source for Sony being down YoY? Batman eats Destiny in hype, I don't know what you're talking about. It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride, which you thought was going to help the Xbox outsell the PS4...

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@TigerSuperman: What is your source for Sony being down YoY? Batman eats Destiny in hype, I don't know what you're talking about. It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride, which you thought was going to help the Xbox outsell the PS4...

Please tell me this is a fever dream haha, it's practically indie, lems hate indie.

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Is your ego hinged on the X1 catching up to the PS4 in NA? The PS4 outsells it 10/12 months of the year last year and I don't see why this year would really be different. Halo doesn't have the same power it did when Halo 3 came out and MCC didn't help with trying to raise it back up to that Halo 3 level either. PS4 is where it's at in terms of consoles this gen, don't be mad, you picked wrong, it's good though, the X1 is still a decent choice. Don't be mad bro, I don't think anyone saw the PS4 being such a force to be reckoned with after the PS3 launch, but Sony knew what gamers wanted, and delivered.

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#118  Edited By TigerSuperman
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@TigerSuperman: It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride,

When did I say batman would have less attention than screamride or will you admit you made that up because you're a horrible liar? Do you feel better about yourself?

@iambatman7986 said:

Is your ego hinged on the X1 catching up to the PS4 in NA? The PS4 outsells it 10/12 months of the year last year and I don't see why this year would really be different. Halo doesn't have the same power it did when Halo 3 came out and MCC didn't help with trying to raise it back up to that Halo 3 level either. PS4 is where it's at in terms of consoles this gen, don't be mad, you picked wrong, it's good though, the X1 is still a decent choice. Don't be mad bro, I don't think anyone saw the PS4 being such a force to be reckoned with after the PS3 launch, but Sony knew what gamers wanted, and delivered.

Halo MCC sold over 1 million in a super short amount of time, you think Halo 5 won't sell mroe than 3 million at alunch like every other main Halo game?

The same PS4 that is still at the moment having issues getting a significant lead over the Xbox one 2 years in NA? It's pretty much decided Xbox One will be number 1 in NA by the end of the year.

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#119 AzatiS
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Noone cares about NA .... Worldwide is what MS should focus on ...

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@TigerSuperman said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@TigerSuperman: It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride,

When did I say batman would have less attention than screamride or will you admit you made that up because you're a horrible liar? Do you feel better about yourself?

@iambatman7986 said:

Is your ego hinged on the X1 catching up to the PS4 in NA? The PS4 outsells it 10/12 months of the year last year and I don't see why this year would really be different. Halo doesn't have the same power it did when Halo 3 came out and MCC didn't help with trying to raise it back up to that Halo 3 level either. PS4 is where it's at in terms of consoles this gen, don't be mad, you picked wrong, it's good though, the X1 is still a decent choice. Don't be mad bro, I don't think anyone saw the PS4 being such a force to be reckoned with after the PS3 launch, but Sony knew what gamers wanted, and delivered.

Halo MCC sold over 1 million in a super short amount of time, you think Halo 5 won't sell mroe than 3 million at alunch like every other main Halo game?

The same PS4 that is still at the moment having issues getting a significant lead over the Xbox one 2 years in NA? It's pretty much decided Xbox One will be number 1 in NA by the end of the year.

You implied it when you thought that Scream Ride would have enough attention to move enough Xbox units to push it past PS4. Now you're saying Batman won't do much to move PS4s. No lie, just you being an idiot. BTW where's that source?

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#121  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@misterpmedia said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@TigerSuperman: What is your source for Sony being down YoY? Batman eats Destiny in hype, I don't know what you're talking about. It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride, which you thought was going to help the Xbox outsell the PS4...

Please tell me this is a fever dream haha, it's practically indie, lems hate indie.

It was one of his "supportive" points. Tried to downplay Bloodborne while hyping Scream Ride lol.

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@TigerSuperman said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@TigerSuperman: It's funny you think an established franchise in its final game will have less attention than Scream Ride,

When did I say batman would have less attention than screamride or will you admit you made that up because you're a horrible liar? Do you feel better about yourself?

@iambatman7986 said:

Is your ego hinged on the X1 catching up to the PS4 in NA? The PS4 outsells it 10/12 months of the year last year and I don't see why this year would really be different. Halo doesn't have the same power it did when Halo 3 came out and MCC didn't help with trying to raise it back up to that Halo 3 level either. PS4 is where it's at in terms of consoles this gen, don't be mad, you picked wrong, it's good though, the X1 is still a decent choice. Don't be mad bro, I don't think anyone saw the PS4 being such a force to be reckoned with after the PS3 launch, but Sony knew what gamers wanted, and delivered.

Halo MCC sold over 1 million in a super short amount of time, you think Halo 5 won't sell mroe than 3 million at alunch like every other main Halo game?

The same PS4 that is still at the moment having issues getting a significant lead over the Xbox one 2 years in NA? It's pretty much decided Xbox One will be number 1 in NA by the end of the year.

I know I wouldn't have bought MCC if I had've known the issues it would still have today. I think that'll hurt Halo 5. Sure people who own an X1 are likely to buy it, but does that mean 3 million consoles will be moved with Halo 5, I doubt it moves many at all. I think most people have decided on which console they want to own and they are just waiting for the price to drop some, but PS4's price has held pretty steady. Even with the X1 being on sale every month with deals, the PS4 still outsells every month minus Nov and Dec.

The PS4 may not have a significant lead, but it is a lead that seems to grow throughout the year. Plus it's funny that the PS4 was able to get and hold that lead in what Lems have dubbed Xbox land. It just seems to me that it is no longer Xbox land, because Sony took it back. I own both and don't care who wins, but I'm not blinded by MS love either.