Windows 10 Leak Exposes Microsoft's New Monthly Charge

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#51  Edited By QuadKnight
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@boycie said:

Funny that certain Sony fans are more upset about this than they was about Sony LYING about MTs in a premium Sony franchis.

Even though there is no evidence for this outside the professional market.

Difference is MTs in GT Sport is optional you clown. You don't have to buy it, and it doesn't have any affect the gameplay of GT for people who choose not to buy MTs.

If MS starts making regular Win 10 users pay for updates it won't be optional.

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#52 lundy86_4
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@quadknight said:

Difference is MTs in GT Sport is optional you clown. You don't have to buy it, and it doesn't have any real affect the gameplay of GT for people who choose not to buy MTs.

If MS starts making regular Win 10 users pay for updates it won't be optional.

That's a big "if," as well as the fact that there is no guarantee that it will be mandatory.

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#53 QuadKnight
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@lundy86_4 said:
@quadknight said:

Difference is MTs in GT Sport is optional you clown. You don't have to buy it, and it doesn't have any real affect the gameplay of GT for people who choose not to buy MTs.

If MS starts making regular Win 10 users pay for updates it won't be optional.

That's a big "if," as well as the fact that there is no guarantee that it will be mandatory.

I know that it's still an "if" scenario but until MS comes out to officially let us know that it doesn't concern Home Users people have a right to be worried.

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#54 Pedro
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Micro-transactions are great because "You don't have to buy it". Remember that.

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#55  Edited By lundy86_4
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@quadknight: That's fair game, and I agree. I don't agree with your assertion that it'll be a sweeping implementation.

All that being said, it's quite clear how it's being pushed, even from the leaks. AFAIK, there are already similar services offered.

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#56 QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:

Micro-transactions are great because "You don't have to buy it". Remember that.

Literally no one on SW has ever said this. If you're going to attack me at least stop pulling shit from your ass.

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#57 QuadKnight
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@quadknight: That's fair game, and I agree. I don't agree with your assertion that it'll be a sweeping implementation.

All that being said, it's quite clear how it's being pushed, even from the leaks. AFAIK, there are already similar services offered.

Good, as long as it doesn't affect me I have no problem with it. I just hope like you say MS is smart enough to realize that this will never fly with regular Win10 users like myself. I guess the reason I'm a bit nervous about this is because of the way they tried to implement DRM at the start of the gen even though everyone with a brain knew it was a bad idea. Let's hope they have learned their lesson over the years, and realized that forcing things on their customers is a bad idea.

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#58 MK-Professor
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Microsoft used to release a new os every 3 years and charge around $80, so to the user it was like $2.2 per month, think about that....

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#59 lundy86_4
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@quadknight: Look at GFWL, when they tried to charge PC users. Very short-lived. The gaming division failed pretty hard this gen, but overall, their Windows products have been fairly on point. I'm in the exact same boat, in that I won't pay monthly for this.

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#60 ReCloud
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@quadknight: you know Pedro is trying to spin this and is still butthurt because we didn't give two shits about GT Sports non intrusive microtransactions

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#61  Edited By Pedro
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@quadknight said:
@Pedro said:

Micro-transactions are great because "You don't have to buy it". Remember that.

Literally no one on SW has ever said this. If you're going to attack me at least stop pulling shit from your ass.

Oh no, he mad from that quote. Just remember its great because like you said "You don't have to buy it".

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#62 Pedro
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@quadknight: you know Pedro is trying to spin this and is still butthurt because we didn't give two shits about GT Sports non intrusive microtransactions

AKA Micotransaction is now fine. LOL

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#63 ReCloud
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@quadknight: see? He never fails to bite the bait.

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#64  Edited By QuadKnight
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@quadknight: you know Pedro is trying to spin this and is still butthurt because we didn't give two shits about GT Sports non intrusive microtransactions

I know, the dude is a clown and one of the worst fanboys on SW. His head is permanently buried up Phil's butt for life ?

He also sucks ass at trolling. If you're going to troll at least use a believable quote. Literally no one on SW will ever say "MTs are great", that's where he failed lol.

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@quadknight: see? He never fails to bite the bait.

? He's getting trolled while trying to fail at trolling, priceless!

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#65 Pedro
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Oh no! When all else fails Phil's butt must come to the rescue. LOL. I got them triggered.

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#66  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Pedro said:

Oh no! When all else fails Phil's butt must come to the rescue. LOL. I got them triggered.

? You would know this since you're an expert on Phil's butt and failing.

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#67  Edited By Pedro
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@quadknight : Says the person that mentions it all the time and is now triggered that I called him out on it.

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#68 QuadKnight
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@quadknight : Says the person that mentions it all the time and is now triggered that I called him out on it.

? What? You're gonna have to speak louder, I can't hear your muffled words coming out of Phil's butt.....

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#69  Edited By ReCloud
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@quadknight: I'd rather not reply to him anymore and watch his pitiful attempts to caught our attention, it's funnier this way :)

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#70 Pedro
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@quadknight said:

? What? You're gonna have to speak louder, I can't hear your muffled words coming out of Phil's butt.....

Being so right can't be this easy. You are making me look so damn good. Sony fannies like yourself are truly special.

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#71  Edited By lundy86_4
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@recloud: Then you may wish to avoid posting yourself.

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#72 Pedro
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@recloud said:

@quadknight: I'd rather not reply to him anymore and watch his pitiful attempts to caught our attention, it's funnier this way :)

I have you fools tethered like pro. It must be frustrating.

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#73  Edited By QuadKnight
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@lundy86_4 said:

@quadknight: Look at GFWL, when they tried to charge PC users. Very short-lived. The gaming division failed pretty hard this gen, but overall, their Windows products have been fairly on point. I'm in the exact same boat, in that I won't pay monthly for this.

Yup, I hope their Windows division stays on point, they have been pretty good with Win10 so far and I'm happy using it. I hope they don't get any bad ideas from their dumb gaming division in the future.

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#74 ReCloud
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@quadknight: see, quad? He never fails to deliver.

Try it sometime, when you see a thread that Pedro is, post on it and you'll quickly see him trying to grab your attention anyway he can.

It's amusing and sad at the same time.

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#75 Pedro
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See, this is how you handle the Sony fannies. Get them triggered. It works like a charm.

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#76 QuadKnight
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@quadknight: see, quad? He never fails to deliver.

Try it sometime, when you see a thread that Pedro is, post on it and you'll quickly see him trying to grab your attention anyway he can.

It's amusing and sad at the same time.

You just described all the hardcore lems on SW lol.

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#77 ReCloud
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@quadknight: I know, that's what they always do.

And then, they proceed to have tantrums and calling people alts, they can't handle the pressure, the poor lemmings.

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#78 X_CAPCOM_X
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lol people in this thread trying to defend and relativize this. "But Sony!"

For an operating system.

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#79 ReCloud
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@X_CAPCOM_X: that's lemmigs for ya

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#80 Pedro
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"I swear mocking Lems is one of my favorite passtimes."

But is now the victim of being mocked and cries foul.

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#81 QuadKnight
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

lol people in this thread trying to defend and relativize this. "But Sony!"

For an operating system.

? Are you really surprised? These are the same clowns that tried to damage always online DRM and Kinect 2.0 by saying "But Sony!!1"

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#82 Pedro
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@boycie said:

Funny that certain Sony fans are more upset about this than they was about Sony LYING about MTs in a premium Sony franchis.

Even though there is no evidence for this outside the professional market.

Its just a select few. Even the hardcore and rarely reasonable person quoted below can see the obvious

@Shewgenja said:

My understanding of this is that it's for Windows 10 Enterprise. It would be suicide to do this to end user lic3nsing.

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#83  Edited By GameboyTroy
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This is messed up. This is bad, very bad. You can use Win 7, 8.1, Mac or Linux instead. I don't think I'm familiar with Linux at all. I'm more familiar with Mac than I am with Linux.

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#84 lundy86_4
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@GameboyTroy: Why is it messed up? Nothing dictates this is for all end-users. Enterprise already has a monthly charge.

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#85 Pedro
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@GameboyTroy said:

This is messed up. This is bad, very bad. You can use Win 7, 8.1, Mac or Linux. I don't think I'm familiar with Linux at all. I'm more familiar with Mac than I am with Linux.

It doesn't affect you even if you are on Win 10.

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@Pedro said:

See, this is how you handle the Sony fannies. Get them triggered. It works like a charm.

It seems you get triggered by every thread mentioning Microsoft or Sony though. Why else will you engage in such a lame trolling crusade? Seems like a sad life...

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#87  Edited By Pedro
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@zappat said:
@Pedro said:

See, this is how you handle the Sony fannies. Get them triggered. It works like a charm.

It seems you get triggered by every thread mentioning Microsoft or Sony though. Why else will you engage in such a lame trolling crusade? Seems like a sad life...

LOL. The Alt returns. Who is your Alt Master? Let me guess, the Alt that is already triggered by my post. Try to diversify your wording next time. ;)

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#88 lundy86_4
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@zappat said:
@Pedro said:

See, this is how you handle the Sony fannies. Get them triggered. It works like a charm.

It seems you get triggered by every thread mentioning Microsoft or Sony though. Why else will you engage in such a lame trolling crusade? Seems like a sad life...

The newbie coming to the rescue, eh? lol.

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#89 Zappat
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@lundy86_4: @Pedro:

What's the butthurt of you guys with new people? Do you own this place that you feel so protective of it? As if your years spent here give you some type of authority over the subjects being discussed? Sounds like a mixture of paranoia while longing for a safe space.

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#90  Edited By lundy86_4
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@zappat: More that you're new and have some immediate allegiance. Screams alt, as is usual with SW.

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#91 Pedro
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@lundy86_4: @Pedro:

What's the butthurt of you guys with new people? Do you own this place that you feel so protective of it? As if your years spent here give you some type of authority over the subjects being discussed? Sounds like a mixture of paranoia while longing for a safe space.

ReCloud, Oops! ;) its just that its odd for a person who has been here for 6 days to already be so aligned, you know what I mean ReCloud?

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#92 Zappat
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@zappat: More that you're new and have some immediate allegiance. Screams alt, as is usual with SW.

You mean until people start posting here they can choose their favorite system? Weird... As far as I know people prefer a system over another outside of Gamespot too.

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absolutely disgusting

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#94 lundy86_4
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@zappat: More that it's a standard motive of alts. Prove us wrong.

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@ProtossRushX said:

absolutely disgusting

Protoss, you continue to be a fucking idiot.

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#96  Edited By Zappat
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@lundy86_4: hmmm how can you prove that? But I have better stuff to do than quenching the paranoia of gaming forum trolls. Apparently I'm an alt for ReCloud. Ok, so be it :) I accept the role but I'm afraid I will disappoint you guys.

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@zappat: You assume I speak for @Pedro.

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@zappat: actually lemmings are insecure and believer us cows need to create alts to support each other when, in reality, we are just the majority and aren't Microsoft shills, we're not dumb to buy an Xbox or support micro$$$$$oft.

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#100 Pedro
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@recloud said:

@zappat: actually lemmings are insecure and believer us cows need to create alts to support each other when, in reality, we are just the majority and aren't Microsoft shills, we're not dumb to buy an Xbox or support micro$$$$$oft.

LOL. Why are you talking to yourself? You are not fooling anyone.