Witcher 2 flops on consoles

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#101 Cloud567kar
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The games been out for a year already on PC for $40. You expect a lot of people to buy it for $60 a year late?

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Why not? Maybe they dont have a gaming PC.

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#102 fueled-system
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Lets see here

1 It was a year old game

2 The first game was never released on a console(recaps don't help much)

3 Most people who wanted the game just bought it for the pc.

4 60 dollar price tag

Honestly I would of been shocked if it done well.

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#103 lundy86_4
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Vgchartz? Lolno.

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#104 fantasyfacade
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I got it on console, I know loads of people who got it on console. I also have friends who already have it on PC who bought it on console (the die hard fan types). Unfortunately it wouldn't run on my PC... I tried... so I waited for the console version as upgrading my PC for one game would be more expensive than an extra few euro on the console version. Unfortunately what has been said it true though it wasn't advertised enough. I highly believe my friends only knew about it because I wouldn't shut up taking about how much I wanted to get it.
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#105 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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lems only buy shooters and kinect. The Journey devs warned it, if they want to sell new non-traditional experiences for consoles try the PS3, the 360 audience isn't up for it. Do you think a game like Demon's Souls would've survived on the 360, unknown, with no advertisement and with deep gameplay? no way. kuraimen

If generalizations and stereotypes are your only argument, you have no argument.

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#107 KungfuKitten
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This is like the anti-anti-piracy game.

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#108 ebrezzy1
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Xbox 360 version Dark Edition Sells out in the UK is bad ???

April Xbox 360 sales Witcher 2 at number 6 bad ???

Xbox 360 Witcher 2 Number 1 on UK charts bad ???

AAA PC/360 game PS3 no gets ???

Sounding like ....

JELLY !!!

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#109 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]lems only buy shooters and kinect. The Journey devs warned it, if they want to sell new non-traditional experiences for consoles try the PS3, the 360 audience isn't up for it. Do you think a game like Demon's Souls would've survived on the 360, unknown, with no advertisement and with deep gameplay? no way. AdobeArtist

If generalizations and stereotypes are your only argument, you have no argument.

There's evidence, look at a game like Alan Wake while look at a game like Heavy Rain. Alan Wake sold poorly even though it was more mainstream than Heavy rain yet Heavy Rain was a relative success on the PS3. There's a bigger chance for devs with fresh ideas to succeed on the PS3 than on the 360 and several devs are aware of that. I'm pretty sure Demon's Souls would have gone completely unnoticed on the 360, thankfully the PS3 gave it an important push that ended up making it a well known classic and inspired another game.
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#110 jun_aka_pekto
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Maybe it's just me. But, I'm starting to see a glut of RPGs. RPGs also take a while to finish. So, sales may be spread out over a longer period of time.

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#111 HyperWarlock
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Who cares, It's one of my all time favourite games and I will be playing it for years to come. The only thing that sells well on consoles are FPS and sports games anyway.

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#112 DeX2010
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1) VGChartz 2) Unless I've missed the obvious, there wasn't a lot of advertising for the game. 3)The official figure is probably more than that. I myself am renting it, then possibly buying it on console or my PC.
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#113 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]lems only buy shooters and kinect. The Journey devs warned it, if they want to sell new non-traditional experiences for consoles try the PS3, the 360 audience isn't up for it. Do you think a game like Demon's Souls would've survived on the 360, unknown, with no advertisement and with deep gameplay? no way. danish-death

...and Skyrim, and Mass Effect, and Trials Evolution, and Minecraft...

Anyway, what exactly do PS3 owner buy other than Call of Dutty?

Do you really want me to make a list?

Yes please.

Make sure you include 360 and PS3 best selling games. It will be fun :)

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#114 ShadowMoses900
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I don't know why, but apparently we are all just supposed to laugh at using VG chartz.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the site, but it does seem pretty silly. Like who honestly cares about game sales?

And there is no way W2 sold less on consoles, 360 owners have no other games to buy so they have to buy W2. And console games always out sell PC games, it's a bigger market and is where the money is at. Most PC games get pirated, I don't know why devs even bother with it anymore.

Especially considering PS3 has the power to match PC games, like UC and GOW and KZ ect....all match (or better in some areas) many high end PC games like W2 or Crysis ect...Devs should just make games for PS3 and just forget about Xbox. They would look SO much better. Xbox is holding PS3 back.

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#115 call_of_duty_10
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And console games always out sell PC games.

ShadowMoses900

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

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#116 lundy86_4
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And console games always out sell PC games

ShadowMoses900

Back this up. I expect every console game to be shown outselling every PC game. You know, because you said "always".

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#117 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games.

call_of_duty_10

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

That means you too, there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. Only a douch loser thinks they are "hardcore", get a life yo. There are only gamers and gaming is just a hobby.

Guess your just upset that W2 looks great on 360 and they got to play it at a much better price and without hassle. Hermits are so over sensitive, they act like their PC rigs are their wives.

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#118 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games.

ShadowMoses900

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

That means you too, there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. Only a douch loser thinks they are "hardcore", get a life yo. There are only gamers and gaming is just a hobby.

Guess your just upset that W2 looks great on 360 and they got to play it at a much better price and without hassle. Hermits are so over sensitive, they act like their PC rigs are their wives.

Lol its funny how people like you disregard the term 'hardcore gamer' when someone uses it against you in an argument.

But hey,if you see no difference,then I guess those soccer moms who play kinect games are just like all the people who play uncharted 3 on PS3!

No difference at all!Nope sir!:roll:

And wtf do you mean by 'better price'?The game is cheaper on PC. I never had to face any hassles,and idgaf about the people who did.

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#119 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

call_of_duty_10

That means you too, there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. Only a douch loser thinks they are "hardcore", get a life yo. There are only gamers and gaming is just a hobby.

Guess your just upset that W2 looks great on 360 and they got to play it at a much better price and without hassle. Hermits are so over sensitive, they act like their PC rigs are their wives.

Lol its funny how people like you disregard the term 'hardcore gamer' when someone uses it against you in an argument.

But hey,if you see no difference,then I guess those soccer moms who play kinect games are just like all the people who play uncharted 3 on PS3!

No difference at all!Nope sir!:roll:

And wtf do you mean by 'better price'?The game is cheaper on PC. I never had to face any hassles,and idgaf about the people who did.

Gamers are gamers, end of story. Those soccer Kinect moms are gamers just like you and me, just with different tastes. Only people who think they are "hardcore" at games are stupid nerds who are trying to be "cool" by seperating people. Sorry pal there are only gamers end of story.

And btw many people would consider W2 to be a pretty "casual" game, the game consists of rolling around in combat and making 2 deminsional moral system chocies. The game is overatted by Hermits. It's not any where as good as Skyrim, I would take Amalur over W2 any day.

The reason PC games are cheaper is because of Piracey and that's it. Most PC games are heavily pirated, very few people legitamently buy them.

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#120 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games.

ShadowMoses900

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

That means you too, there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. Only a douch loser thinks they are "hardcore", get a life yo. There are only gamers and gaming is just a hobby.

Guess your just upset that W2 looks great on 360 and they got to play it at a much better price and without hassle. Hermits are so over sensitive, they act like their PC rigs are their wives.

Did pigs evolve wings? Is it snowing in Hell? Did Pachter actually get a prediction right?

I'm... I'm actually agreeing with ShadowMoses :shock:

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#121 Cloud567kar
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I don't know why, but apparently we are all just supposed to laugh at using VG chartz.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the site, but it does seem pretty silly. Like who honestly cares about game sales?

And there is no way W2 sold less on consoles, 360 owners have no other games to buy so they have to buy W2. And console games always out sell PC games, it's a bigger market and is where the money is at. Most PC games get pirated, I don't know why devs even bother with it anymore.

Especially considering PS3 has the power to match PC games, like UC and GOW and KZ ect....all match (or better in some areas) many high end PC games like W2 or Crysis ect...Devs should just make games for PS3 and just forget about Xbox. They would look SO much better. Xbox is holding PS3 back.

ShadowMoses900

Lol no just no. Look at crysis or crysis 2. They look way better than any PS3 game. And console games always out sell PC games, really now?

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#122 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games

lundy86_4

Back this up. I expect every console game to be shown outselling every PC game. You know, because you said "always".

Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.

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#123 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games.

ShadowMoses900

Only when the game is meant for casuals.

That means you too, there is no such thing as a hardcore gamer. Only a douch loser thinks they are "hardcore", get a life yo. There are only gamers and gaming is just a hobby.

Guess your just upset that W2 looks great on 360 and they got to play it at a much better price and without hassle. Hermits are so over sensitive, they act like their PC rigs are their wives.

You should try harder. I got TW2 for $30. Its $60 for 360. It also plays and looks better on PC.

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#124 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And console games always out sell PC games

lundy86_4

Back this up. I expect every console game to be shown outselling every PC game. You know, because you said "always".

Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.

You have ponies now, you lost all respect. I just ad block all pony people, such creeps.

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#125 mitu123
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This was expected.

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#126 Cloud567kar
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Back this up. I expect every console game to be shown outselling every PC game. You know, because you said "always".

ShadowMoses900

Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.

You have ponies now, you lost all respect. I just ad block all pony people, such creeps.

Youre a troll, you know what happens to trolls around here?

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#127 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Back this up. I expect every console game to be shown outselling every PC game. You know, because you said "always".

ShadowMoses900

Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.

You have ponies now, you lost all respect. I just ad block all pony people, such creeps.

Lost a SW bet, this is the punishment. You should try not pre-judging people based on something they may like and try backing up your points with sources.

You'd best get searching for sales numbers :)

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#128 Badosh
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Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.lundy86_4
Why even respond to trollmoses?
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#129 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't know why, but apparently we are all just supposed to laugh at using VG chartz.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the site, but it does seem pretty silly. Like who honestly cares about game sales?

And there is no way W2 sold less on consoles, 360 owners have no other games to buy so they have to buy W2. And console games always out sell PC games, it's a bigger market and is where the money is at. Most PC games get pirated, I don't know why devs even bother with it anymore.

Especially considering PS3 has the power to match PC games, like UC and GOW and KZ ect....all match (or better in some areas) many high end PC games like W2 or Crysis ect...Devs should just make games for PS3 and just forget about Xbox. They would look SO much better. Xbox is holding PS3 back.

Cloud567kar

Lol no just no. Look at crysis or crysis 2. They look way better than any PS3 game. And console games always out sell PC games, really now?

Here is proof:

Killzone 3 versus Crysis 2 PC Video Comparison Part 1 (HD) - YouTube

As you can see, minimal differences. And KZ looks better in some areas like the charecter animations.

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#130 RyanShazam
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You mean "console" It's not on PS3...
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#131 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.Badosh
Why even respond to trollmoses?

Why not? It's amusing watching them try and avoid providing sources... Much like shadow just tried to :lol:

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#132 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Come on shadow. It must be taking a while to collect all that data.

lundy86_4

You have ponies now, you lost all respect. I just ad block all pony people, such creeps.

Lost a SW bet, this is the punishment. You should try not pre-judging people based on something they may like and try backing up your points with sources.

You'd best get searching for sales numbers :)

Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

You shouldn't gamble in the future, and I'm not going to waste my time finding sales numbers, it's just obvious. How many copies did COD sell on consoles? Millions! Now how many copies did it sell on PC? Probably just in the hundreds, because the rest got pirated. That is why PC games are cheaper, piracey issues.

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#133 lundy86_4
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Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

You shouldn't gamble in the future, and I'm not going to waste my time finding sales numbers, it's just obvious. How many copies did COD sell on consoles? Millions! Now how many copies did it sell on PC? Probably just in the hundreds, because the rest got pirated. That is why PC games are cheaper, piracey issues.

ShadowMoses900

What a shock, you can't back up your assertions :lol:

I'm so surprised.

Back up your points. This isn't "debate for amateurs" bro :(

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#134 Heil68
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360 owners are used to buying Sesame Street. Haunt, The gunstrimger, Disneyland Adventures ect ect..Not really surprising that the 1% core games dont sell.
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#135 ChubbyGuy40
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Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

You shouldn't gamble in the future, and I'm not going to waste my time finding sales numbers, it's just obvious. How many copies did COD sell on consoles? Millions! Now how many copies did it sell on PC? Probably just in the hundreds, because the rest got pirated. That is why PC games are cheaper, piracey issues.

ShadowMoses900

Anyone who is creeped out by someone else enjoying a cartoon show has mental issues. It was part of a bet, he wasn't doing it willingly.

You're not gonna waste time finding facts for your claims?

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#136 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

You shouldn't gamble in the future, and I'm not going to waste my time finding sales numbers, it's just obvious. How many copies did COD sell on consoles? Millions! Now how many copies did it sell on PC? Probably just in the hundreds, because the rest got pirated. That is why PC games are cheaper, piracey issues.

lundy86_4

What a shock, you can't back up your assertions :lol:

I'm so surprised.

Back up your points. This isn't "debate for amateurs" bro :(

What assertions? Why don't you prove to me that PC games out sell console games. Because the only source I can find is VG Chartz which everyone laughs at on here. Common sense would tell you consoles sell more games than PC does, that's why Devs are abandoning PC and going with consoles, they want to feed their families like everyone else, if they stick with just PC they would be out of work fast. Mainly due to Priacey and expensive upgrading costs.

Plus as I already proved, the PS3 is powerful enough to rival PC so devs should just go to that only.

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#137 rasengan2552
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lol @ at the few delusional lems who thought it would be popular on consoles.

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#138 lundy86_4
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What assertions? Why don't you prove to me that PC games out sell console games. Because the only source I can find is VG Chartz which everyone laughs at on here. Common sense would tell you consoles sell more games than PC does, that's why Devs are abandoning PC and going with consoles, they want to feed their families like everyone else, if they stick with just PC they would be out of work fast. Mainly due to Priacey and expensive upgrading costs.

Plus as I already proved, the PS3 is powerful enough to rival PC so devs should just go to that only.

ShadowMoses900

Assertion:

And console games always out sell PC games

ShadowMoses900

Outside a legal context, "burden of proof" means that someone suggesting a new theory or stating a claim must provide evidence to support it: it is not sufficient to say "you can't disprove this". Specifically, when anyone is making a bold claim, it is not someone else's responsibility to disprove the claim, but is rather the person's responsibility who is making the bold claim to prove it.

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#139 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

What assertions? Why don't you prove to me that PC games out sell console games. Because the only source I can find is VG Chartz which everyone laughs at on here. Common sense would tell you consoles sell more games than PC does, that's why Devs are abandoning PC and going with consoles, they want to feed their families like everyone else, if they stick with just PC they would be out of work fast. Mainly due to Priacey and expensive upgrading costs.

Plus as I already proved, the PS3 is powerful enough to rival PC so devs should just go to that only.

lundy86_4

Assertion:

And console games always out sell PC games

ShadowMoses900

Outside a legal context, "burden of proof" means that someone suggesting a new theory or stating a claim must provide evidence to support it: it is not sufficient to say "you can't disprove this". Specifically, when anyone is making a bold claim, it is not someone else's responsibility to disprove the claim, but is rather the person's responsibility who is making the bold claim to prove it.

Ok I admit I can't prove it. But I shouldn't have to, it's just common sense. So you win this time again. But I'm gonna get you one day.

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#140 WadeKuun
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Lol at people who dont even know why everyone doesn't like VG. Lol at everybody because we'd rather not have evidence than close measurements.
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#141 g0ddyX
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Lol at people who game and play sales than the games...
So sad what some so called "gamers" can be like.

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#142 lundy86_4
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Ok I admit I can't prove it. But I shouldn't have to, it's just common sense. So you win this time again. But I'm gonna get you one day.

ShadowMoses900

No, you can't. Yes, you do. No, you're not.

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#143 Cloud567kar
Member since 2007 • 2656 Posts

[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't know why, but apparently we are all just supposed to laugh at using VG chartz.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the site, but it does seem pretty silly. Like who honestly cares about game sales?

And there is no way W2 sold less on consoles, 360 owners have no other games to buy so they have to buy W2. And console games always out sell PC games, it's a bigger market and is where the money is at. Most PC games get pirated, I don't know why devs even bother with it anymore.

Especially considering PS3 has the power to match PC games, like UC and GOW and KZ ect....all match (or better in some areas) many high end PC games like W2 or Crysis ect...Devs should just make games for PS3 and just forget about Xbox. They would look SO much better. Xbox is holding PS3 back.

ShadowMoses900

Lol no just no. Look at crysis or crysis 2. They look way better than any PS3 game. And console games always out sell PC games, really now?

Here is proof:

Killzone 3 versus Crysis 2 PC Video Comparison Part 1 (HD) - YouTube

As you can see, minimal differences. And KZ looks better in some areas like the charecter animations.

Thats a terrible compairson lol. Both videos are so small.

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#144 Cloud567kar
Member since 2007 • 2656 Posts

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

You shouldn't gamble in the future, and I'm not going to waste my time finding sales numbers, it's just obvious. How many copies did COD sell on consoles? Millions! Now how many copies did it sell on PC? Probably just in the hundreds, because the rest got pirated. That is why PC games are cheaper, piracey issues.

ShadowMoses900

What a shock, you can't back up your assertions :lol:

I'm so surprised.

Back up your points. This isn't "debate for amateurs" bro :(

Plus as I already proved, the PS3 is powerful enough to rival PC so devs should just go to that only.

You didnt prove anything. You posted a terrible compairson that goes through super dark scenes in Crysis 2.

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#145 ChubbyGuy40
Member since 2007 • 26442 Posts

Ok I admit I can't prove it. But I shouldn't have to, it's just common sense.

ShadowMoses900

Because it's not common sense you idiot.

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#146 R4gn4r0k
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Here is proof:

Killzone 3 versus Crysis 2 PC Video Comparison Part 1 (HD) - YouTube

As you can see, minimal differences. And KZ looks better in some areas like the charecter animations.

ShadowMoses900

That's your proof ? :lol:

Anyone who has actually seen Killzone 3 on PS3 and Crysis 2 on PC knows you are wrong.

You play both games on a big screen, not in a tiny window for starters.

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#147 KiZZo1
Member since 2007 • 3989 Posts

Any grown man that is into ponies has a mental illness. They are creeps, period.

ShadowMoses900

Wow. What happened to:

Those soccer Kinect moms are gamers just like you and me, just with different tastes.

ShadowMoses900

It's OK to have preferences for video games, but not for TV shows? Care to explain how Sesame Street Kinect is different from MLP? Am I sensing a bit of hypocrisy (well, not exactly a bit, more like a f***ton)?

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#148 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

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It's only been a couple of weeks. Plus, I can't be the only one waiting to pick it up when it hits the bargain bin.

Raymundo_Manuel

The bargain bin!?!?!?! It's The Witcher 2! :P

Every game makes its way there eventually. New games have been dropping quickly to $40 these days, it's still just a port, I already have it on Steam. Makes little sense for me to pick it up for anything over 20.

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#149 topgunmv
Member since 2003 • 10880 Posts

[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] Actually its one person Loosingends...WilliamRLBaker

Actually,I saw you more than once saing the 360 version would quickly outsell the PC version and that hermits would be owned and all that jazz you usually bark,one of them was in the TW2 hype thread

okay let me rephrase, No one seriously said that except loosingends, My statements were only to piss off pirates...I mean hermtis whom went out of their way to actually say a game was crap because it was had been released on the 360.

You sure seem to get a kick out of calling pc gamers pirates.

I think thou doth protest too much.

piraterm.jpg

It all makes sense now...

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#150 Allicrombie
Member since 2005 • 26223 Posts
umm what?