Witcher 3 on xbox ?, Witcher 2 graphics almost as PC, exlusive new controls

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#351 ChubbyGuy40
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come on dude, i am 35, i have been playing games since the zx spectrum / atari days. when i used to play the old flight games like gunship, which required a keyboard overlay there wasn't much of a choice. http://www.mobygames.com/game/zx-spectrum/gunship KB&M works for some, (not saying its inferior of course) but controllers work for other people.

personally i prefer a controller, i like the rumble and the triggers, button placement. i use a KB&M all day at work, but cannot imagine trying to play something like batman arkham city with it, a controller much more intuitive to use.

sts106mat

Your sarcasm detector must be broken. Here, borrow mine.

Arkham City is actually pretty damn fluid with a KB/M. Arkham Asylum was too. Rocksteady actually did a damn good job with the controls (and visuals as well.)

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#353 ChubbyGuy40
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I really want to invest in a flight stick for BF3 and ArmA 3, but I don't think I'll ever be good enough at flying them even with one. :lol:

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#355 archvile_78
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I really want to invest in a flight stick for BF3 and ArmA 3, but I don't think I'll ever be good enough at flying them even with one. :lol:

ChubbyGuy40

I say go for it, might be bad at first but you might end up adapting rather quickly.

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#356 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

No, 360 is better because has refined and perfected pad controls and will pay vastly better as developers confirmed too

So, will have by miles better gameplay, which as they confirmed, wont be patched on PC

Which is a disaster for PC version of course, since the only version to buy is 360 now

You can keep your 100 extra pixels, i will go for the best gameplay everytime, plus the game looks stunning on 360 anyway

ChubbyGuy40

KB/M > controller. Any day, every day.

Nope. Dumbing down gameplay =/= better

Nope. PC version still vastly superior (yet again.)

Best gameplay is on PC. You can keep your crappy gamepad and low-quality visuals, jaggies, and low performance.

You just stated your opposite opinion. You did nothing for this thread
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#357 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

KB/M > controller. Any day, every day.

Nope. Dumbing down gameplay =/= better

Nope. PC version still vastly superior (yet again.)

Best gameplay is on PC. You can keep your crappy gamepad and low-quality visuals, jaggies, and low performance.

Promised_Trini

I would quit gaming if i had to play all games with KB+Mouse, it is that bad to me

It is the worst controls method by miles, it totally destroys any immersion in games

So, no, it is not better than the natural, analog, smooth pad controls at all, it is garbage

I think you should quit gaming now...Cause your making a Ass out of yourself.

Its the damn Internet, only low-lifes would care about their "e-credibility"
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#358 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="Majistrate"]

No loosingENDS, your wrong, the grpahics won't be better, not by a longshot, and your seriously lacking in the brains department if you think that.
The only thing the 360 version has over the PC version is a set of controls...which were good on m+kb anyway?

PC is the superior version in every way, shape & form, there's no denying that, and the reviews will prove that.

loosingENDS

PC has garbage controls comparing to 360

Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>> graphics and 360 has the best gameplay by miles

The new controls will not be patched on PC

I'm sure the gameplay is the same.

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#359 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

PC has garbage controls comparing to 360

Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>> graphics and 360 has the best gameplay by miles

The new controls will not be patched on PC

loosingENDS

Damn,you are getting desperate now:lol: KB/M >>> controller btw.

Controlling 3rd person games with KB+Mouse is a nightmare, the worst gaming experience i can think of

So, no

The developers themselves state how much better it plays on 360, so it is by miles the best version

Yeah, for the someone who is mentally impaired and has serious eye-hand coordination issues.

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#360 soulitane
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

No, 360 is better because has refined and perfected pad controls and will pay vastly better as developers confirmed too

So, will have by miles better gameplay, which as they confirmed, wont be patched on PC

Which is a disaster for PC version of course, since the only version to buy is 360 now

You can keep your 100 extra pixels, i will go for the best gameplay everytime, plus the game looks stunning on 360 anyway

LastRambo341

KB/M > controller. Any day, every day.

Nope. Dumbing down gameplay =/= better

Nope. PC version still vastly superior (yet again.)

Best gameplay is on PC. You can keep your crappy gamepad and low-quality visuals, jaggies, and low performance.

You just stated your opposite opinion. You did nothing for this thread

So the same as yourself then? :o
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#361 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

who needs reviews when we can just listen to somebody who's trying to sell us something!

loosingENDS

Who needs reviews, when the developers themselves state it plays better on 360

Really? How dumb can you be? Do you think they would tell you it plays worse? THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU A GAME!

Also, they never said it plays better on 360, they said they optimized controls for 360, meaning both PC and 360 gamers get an experience optimized for their respective control setup.

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#362 ChubbyGuy40
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You just stated your opposite opinion. You did nothing for this threadLastRambo341

Nope. I stated facts. Keep up the cheerleading though.

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#363 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

who needs reviews when we can just listen to somebody who's trying to sell us something!

nunovlopes

Who needs reviews, when the developers themselves state it plays better on 360

Really? How dumb can you be? Do you think they would tell you it plays worse? THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU A GAME!

Also, they never said it plays better on 360, they said they optimized controls for 360, meaning both PC and 360 gamers get an experience optimized for their respective control setup.

Witcher 2 - CD PRoject

http://gamingnexus.com/Article/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings-Interview/Item3403.aspx


The re-design of controls I mentioned before was done for the benefit of Xbox players. These changes will not apply to the PC version. We are leaving the control system unchanged. As I mentioned, all the other in-game content will be available for free to PC users.

Also we re-adapted the controls for the Xbox gamepad, that is to say, the PC version supported gamepad controls, but now they're close to being perfect. Also, the spectacular combat in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition really flows on the Xbox 360.You feel like a real sword master as you slash through ranks of foes and roll through pools of monster blood.

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#364 archvile_78
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*bs*

loosingENDS

After reading Crytek statement, a while ago, where they said Crysis on console looked better than on PC i don't think you should believe what devs says.

Mind you, you're you so...moving on.

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#365 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

*bs*

archvile_78

After reading Crytek statement, a while ago, where they said Crysis on console looked better than on PC i don't think you should believe what devs says.

Mind you, you're you so...moving on.

Crysis on 360 looked vastly better than the vanilla PC version indeed, so what are you talking about ?

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#366 Bebi_vegeta
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Should M&K also considered exclusive control for PC?

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#367 loosingENDS
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Should M&K also considered exclusive control for PC?

Bebi_vegeta

Sure, PC has terrible controls exclusively

That is why i would pick the game on 360 by miles

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#368 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

*bs*

loosingENDS

After reading Crytek statement, a while ago, where they said Crysis on console looked better than on PC i don't think you should believe what devs says.

Mind you, you're you so...moving on.

Crysis on 360 looked vastly better than the vanilla PC version indeed, so what are you talking about ?

Post-Processing=/=Real Time

Do I have to explain why you're a goldfish again only for you to rage like a complete idiot?

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#369 Assassin_87
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[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

*bs*

loosingENDS

After reading Crytek statement, a while ago, where they said Crysis on console looked better than on PC i don't think you should believe what devs says.

Mind you, you're you so...moving on.

Crysis on 360 looked vastly better than the vanilla PC version indeed, so what are you talking about ?

What are you on?

Oh, wait, you're just an idiot. Prove that Crysis looks better on the Xbox 360 and this isn't just you talking out of your ass again.

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#370 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Should M&K also considered exclusive control for PC?

loosingENDS

Sure, PC has terrible controls exclusively

That is why i would pick the game on 360 by miles

Lol Kb/M destroys the controller.U MAD?
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#371 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Should M&K also considered exclusive control for PC?

loosingENDS

Sure, PC has terrible controls exclusively

That is why i would pick the game on 360 by miles

Well I like the M&K just fine for Witcher 2.

I would agree if this was dead space... but witcher 2 was ok.

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#372 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Who needs reviews, when the developers themselves state it plays better on 360

loosingENDS

Really? How dumb can you be? Do you think they would tell you it plays worse? THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU A GAME!

Also, they never said it plays better on 360, they said they optimized controls for 360, meaning both PC and 360 gamers get an experience optimized for their respective control setup.

Witcher 2 - CD PRoject

http://gamingnexus.com/Article/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings-Interview/Item3403.aspx


The re-design of controls I mentioned before was done for the benefit of Xbox players. These changes will not apply to the PC version. We are leaving the control system unchanged. As I mentioned, all the other in-game content will be available for free to PC users.

Also we re-adapted the controls for the Xbox gamepad, that is to say, the PC version supported gamepad controls, but now they're close to being perfect. Also, the spectacular combat in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition really flows on the Xbox 360.You feel like a real sword master as you slash through ranks of foes and roll through pools of monster blood.

So in other words, they are close to being perfect like the PC keyboard/mouse controls. How else would you define perfect?

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#373 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

Really? How dumb can you be? Do you think they would tell you it plays worse? THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL YOU A GAME!

Also, they never said it plays better on 360, they said they optimized controls for 360, meaning both PC and 360 gamers get an experience optimized for their respective control setup.

DragonfireXZ95

Witcher 2 - CD PRoject

http://gamingnexus.com/Article/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings-Interview/Item3403.aspx


The re-design of controls I mentioned before was done for the benefit of Xbox players. These changes will not apply to the PC version. We are leaving the control system unchanged. As I mentioned, all the other in-game content will be available for free to PC users.

Also we re-adapted the controls for the Xbox gamepad, that is to say, the PC version supported gamepad controls, but now they're close to being perfect. Also, the spectacular combat in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition really flows on the Xbox 360.You feel like a real sword master as you slash through ranks of foes and roll through pools of monster blood.

So in other words, they are close to being perfect like the PC keyboard/mouse controls. How else would you define perfect?

Would not define perfect as the garbage KB+mouse controls for sure, that is the exact opposite of perfect

KB+Mouse is the worst control method by miles, totaqlly destroys the gameplay in games

Both CD PRoject and Blizzard say Witcher and Diablo control best with pad

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#374 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Witcher 2 - CD PRoject

http://gamingnexus.com/Article/The-Witcher-2-Assassins-of-Kings-Interview/Item3403.aspx


The re-design of controls I mentioned before was done for the benefit of Xbox players. These changes will not apply to the PC version. We are leaving the control system unchanged. As I mentioned, all the other in-game content will be available for free to PC users.

Also we re-adapted the controls for the Xbox gamepad, that is to say, the PC version supported gamepad controls, but now they're close to being perfect. Also, the spectacular combat in The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition really flows on the Xbox 360.You feel like a real sword master as you slash through ranks of foes and roll through pools of monster blood.

loosingENDS

So in other words, they are close to being perfect like the PC keyboard/mouse controls. How else would you define perfect?

Would not define perfect as the garbage KB+mouse controls for sure, that is the exact opposite of perfect

KB+Mouse is the worst control method by miles, totaqlly destroys the gameplay in games

Both CD PRoject and Blizzard say Witcher and Diablo control best with pad

Haha,you are so stupid I bet you would believe that earth is cuboidal if a dev said so!

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#375 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

So in other words, they are close to being perfect like the PC keyboard/mouse controls. How else would you define perfect?

call_of_duty_10

Would not define perfect as the garbage KB+mouse controls for sure, that is the exact opposite of perfect

KB+Mouse is the worst control method by miles, totaqlly destroys the gameplay in games

Both CD PRoject and Blizzard say Witcher and Diablo control best with pad

Haha,you are so stupid I bet you would believe that earth is cuboidal if a dev said so!

I 100% believe it, because i have played for years with the garbage KB+Mouse and controllers were 10.000.000 times better, even since PS1 days

There is no comparisson, when i can play a game with pad, i would never touch it on PC

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#376 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Would not define perfect as the garbage KB+mouse controls for sure, that is the exact opposite of perfect

KB+Mouse is the worst control method by miles, totaqlly destroys the gameplay in games

Both CD PRoject and Blizzard say Witcher and Diablo control best with pad

loosingENDS

Haha,you are so stupid I bet you would believe that earth is cuboidal if a dev said so!

I 100% believe it, because i have played for years with the garbage KB+Mouse and controllers were 10.000.000 times better, even since PS1 days

There is no comparisson, when i can play a game with pad, i would never touch it on PC

That's because your playing with a mouse Pad... seriously, you're doing it wrong.

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#377 call_of_duty_10
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Oh,and btw,Alan Wake AN scored 7/10

I was honestly thinking that it would get an 8.

Your beloved fable game won't get more than a 6 then,Looser!LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL

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#378 freedomfreak
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Lol.

Loosingends never fails.
Well,he does all the time,but he succeeds in making every thread,a hot thread.

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#379 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Would not define perfect as the garbage KB+mouse controls for sure, that is the exact opposite of perfect

KB+Mouse is the worst control method by miles, totaqlly destroys the gameplay in games

Both CD PRoject and Blizzard say Witcher and Diablo control best with pad

loosingENDS

Haha,you are so stupid I bet you would believe that earth is cuboidal if a dev said so!

There is no comparisson, when i can play a game with pad, i would never touch it on PC

No one gives a f*ck about your worthless opinion though.

Go blog this stuff.

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#380 waltefmoney
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Oh,and btw,Alan Wake AN scored 7/10

I was honestly thinking that it would get an 8.

Your beloved fable game won't get more than a 6 then,Looser!LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL

call_of_duty_10

The loosingends curse. Quick, someone stop him before he hypes Halo 4.

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#381 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Oh,and btw,Alan Wake AN scored 7/10

I was honestly thinking that it would get an 8.

Your beloved fable game won't get more than a 6 then,Looser!LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL

waltefmoney

The loosingends curse. Quick, someone stop him before he hypes Halo 4.

Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:
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#382 GD1551
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PC gamers are very easy to troll on this board.

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#383 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

KB/M > controller. Any day, every day.

Nope. Dumbing down gameplay =/= better

Nope. PC version still vastly superior (yet again.)

Best gameplay is on PC. You can keep your crappy gamepad and low-quality visuals, jaggies, and low performance.

soulitane

Nope, I'm superior, you're not. You just stated your opposite opinion. You did nothing for this thread

So the same as yourself then? :o

I'm superior, that is the difference

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#384 waltefmoney
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Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:call_of_duty_10

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

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#385 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Oh,and btw,Alan Wake AN scored 7/10

I was honestly thinking that it would get an 8.

Your beloved fable game won't get more than a 6 then,Looser!LOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL

call_of_duty_10

The loosingends curse. Quick, someone stop him before he hypes Halo 4.

Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:

Winning WHAT?
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#386 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Haha,you are so stupid I bet you would believe that earth is cuboidal if a dev said so!

call_of_duty_10

There is no comparisson, when i can play a game with pad, i would never touch it on PC

No one gives a f*ck about your worthless opinion though.

Go blog this stuff.

I can say the same about your opinion too

Plus CD PRoject and Blizzard agree with me, not with you, they clearly stated pad controls are best for their games

So, worthless opinions considering, yours is the most worthless of them all

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#387 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:waltefmoney

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

Oh look, its wasteofmoney. No wait, wasteofLIFE
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#388 waltefmoney
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Winning WHAT?LastRambo341

Your heart. I was gonna win it, but then loosingENDS came in :(

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#389 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:waltefmoney

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:
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#390 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Funny thing is,he was voted as the leader of the lems. If I remember correctly,he destroyed YOUR hopes of winning:lol:call_of_duty_10

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:

At least he gives good points ;) Proof? Look at the backlash ;)
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#391 waltefmoney
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Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:call_of_duty_10

I lost everything that day. The girl, the crown. But I'll get them back!

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#392 waltefmoney
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Oh look, its wasteofmoney. No wait, wasteofLIFELastRambo341

My love for you is timeless.

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#393 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

There is no comparisson, when i can play a game with pad, i would never touch it on PC

loosingENDS

No one gives a f*ck about your worthless opinion though.

Go blog this stuff.

Plus CD PRoject and Blizzard agree with me, not with you, they clearly stated pad controls are best for their games

So devs cannot lie to hype their product?LOL

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#394 GD1551
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

LastRambo341

Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:

At least he gives good points ;) Proof? Look at the backlash ;)

That's not good points. PC gamers on SW seem to have the IQs of a brick because they fall for the same run around every single time with this guy. Maybe one day they will start ignoring him, but it's not going to be soon.

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#395 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Why does everyone keep brining that up? It's painful :(

LastRambo341

Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:

At least he gives good points ;)

Who?Looser?

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#396 waltefmoney
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That's not good points. PC gamers on SW seem to have the IQs of a brick because they fall for the same run around every single time with this guy. Maybe one day they will start ignoring him, but it's not going to be soon.

GD1551

That's kind of ironic considering you just responded to him in another thread.

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#397 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

That's not good points. PC gamers on SW seem to have the IQs of a brick because they fall for the same run around every single time with this guy. Maybe one day they will start ignoring him, but it's not going to be soon.

waltefmoney

That's kind of ironic considering you just responded to him in another thread.

I know I did. If you haven't caught one to what I do after the whole weeaboo thing then I don't know what to say.

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#398 waltefmoney
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I know I did. If you haven't caught one to what I do after the whole weeaboo thing then I don't know what to say.

GD1551

What weeeaboo thing?

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At least he gives good points ;)

Proof? Look at the backlash ;)LastRambo341

Never once has he ever put up a solid argument. How many times does this need to be posted? Acting like a complete f**kwad =/= trolling.

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#400 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Hey,you have got to admit that it is pretty funny. I mean,you have been supporting the 360 for so long,and your arguments are always good.After WilliamBaker or whatever-his-name-is stopped defending MS,you were certain that you would win. And then you lost to......LoosingEnds!:lol:GD1551

At least he gives good points ;) Proof? Look at the backlash ;)

That's not good points. PC gamers on SW seem to have the IQs of a brick because they fall for the same run around every single time with this guy. Maybe one day they will start ignoring him, but it's not going to be soon.

I,for one,enjoy his threads.

I dont want him to get banned.