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#1 clyde46
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What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

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I don't think the full steam service is going to PS3 (Unless this was announced yesterday and I didn't hear). PS3 will just get Steam updates for games made by Valve, since it's an "Open System"

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#3 Buckledant
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What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

clyde46
They're only porting Steamworks which means they can patch faster, play together with PC/Mac users and possibly store saves and such.
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#4 Ravensmash
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Hopefully MS will work out a deal with Valve - they can't be happy at the E3 announcement. Valve have said themselves that they'd love to get it on 360.
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#5 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

Buckledant

They're only porting Steamworks which means they can patch faster, play together with PC/Mac users and possibly store saves and such.

and throws in community support aswell if im not mistaken.But its a good integration might make MS step up their game with GFWL tho but it seems to have just been cast to the side.

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#6 lundy86_4
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It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

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#7 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

Buckledant

They're only porting Steamworks which means they can patch faster, play together with PC/Mac users and possibly store saves and such.

Really? so you gotta use a controller against mouse and keyboard on PSN then?

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#8 JordanizPro
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Wait.....Steam is coming to the playstation?! :o

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#9 SparkyProtocol
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I know OP isn't serious. :o
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#10 JordanizPro
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It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

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Oh ok

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#11 rcignoni
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Well, they get free updates and DLC like PC gamers. This means that the 360 versions of Valve games will be worse than they were before, meaning MS better buddy up to the idea of free updates and DLC.
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#12 Arach666
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Steam isn´t going to the PS3.

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#13 Crystal-Rush
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[QUOTE="Buckledant"][QUOTE="clyde46"]

What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

markinthedark

They're only porting Steamworks which means they can patch faster, play together with PC/Mac users and possibly store saves and such.

Really? so you gotta use a controller against mouse and keyboard on PSN then?

you could use the Move controller for supported, cross platform games. Though the move would still be at a huge disadvantage compared to M/KB. Or you could buy a Frag fx or Fragnstein to make it a fairly even playing field. I use the Fragnstein for all PS3 shooters online and i almost always mop the floor with other players using the dual shock.
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free updates and DLC is the name of the game

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#15 fun-da-mental
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It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

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How do you know?

360 fanboys also said Valve will never develop on PS3.

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#16 psn8214
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I know this would never happen - but imagine if Valve was able to offer Steam or a Steam-esque service on PS3 (and potentially 360), complete with popular games, sales, all the Steam goodness we love on PC, etc. How great would that be? :o

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#17 JordanizPro
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I know this would never happen - but imagine if Valve was able to offer Steam or a Steam-esque service on PS3 (and potentially 360), complete with popular games, sales, all the Steam goodness we love on PC, etc. How great would that be? :o

psn8214

Words cant explain how happy i would be if that happened

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#18 gamer-adam1
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why buy a PS3 when you can get a better verison of portal 2 on the PC?

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#19 clyde46
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why buy a PS3 when you can get a better verison of portal 2 on the PC?

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Dude, I own both but for many thats not an option.
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#20 DarkLink77
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I know this would never happen - but imagine if Valve was able to offer Steam or a Steam-esque service on PS3 (and potentially 360), complete with popular games, sales, all the Steam goodness we love on PC, etc. How great would that be? :o

psn8214
I'd still buy console games at retail. I like having physical copies that I own, can resell, etc.
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#21 Arach666
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

I know this would never happen - but imagine if Valve was able to offer Steam or a Steam-esque service on PS3 (and potentially 360), complete with popular games, sales, all the Steam goodness we love on PC, etc. How great would that be? :o

DarkLink77

I'd still buy console games at retail. I like having physical copies that I own, can resell, etc.

The future is DD my friend,it will all come to that eventually.;)

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#22 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

I know this would never happen - but imagine if Valve was able to offer Steam or a Steam-esque service on PS3 (and potentially 360), complete with popular games, sales, all the Steam goodness we love on PC, etc. How great would that be? :o

Arach666
I'd still buy console games at retail. I like having physical copies that I own, can resell, etc.

The future is DD,my friend,it will all come to that eventually.;)

Oh, I know Arach. And on PC, it makes sense. Not so much with consoles. And to be honest, I don't EVER see Nintendo going totally DD.
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#23 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

fun-da-mental

How do you know?

360 fanboys also said Valve will never develop on PS3.

WAT! Let me ask you, why would sony put a 3rd party retailer on a closed platform?
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#24 psn8214
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Words cant explain how happy i would be if that happened

JordanizPro

Same here. I can only imagine having popular, console-only titles available in a Steam-esque market, with weekend sales and blowouts... it would be amazing!

I'd still buy console games at retail. I like having physical copies that I own, can resell, etc.DarkLink77

I've never been much of a reseller. In fact, I haven't sold any of the games I've purchased this gen. As a PC gamer, I'm just used to installing and keeping my games, and I kept that mentality when I bought my first console (PS3). :P

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#25 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

fun-da-mental

How do you know?

360 fanboys also said Valve will never develop on PS3.

Here. It was stated right in the E3 Sony conference.

It's being used in tandem with Portal 2 for things like updates. It's not the whole Steam service.

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#26 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I'd still buy console games at retail. I like having physical copies that I own, can resell, etc.DarkLink77
The future is DD,my friend,it will all come to that eventually.;)

Oh, I know Arach. And on PC, it makes sense. Not so much with consoles. And to be honest, I don't EVER see Nintendo going totally DD.

You´re probably rigth about nintendo,but as far as sony and ms are concerned,I feel that they´re going to follow that route very soon.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Arach666"] The future is DD,my friend,it will all come to that eventually.;)Arach666

Oh, I know Arach. And on PC, it makes sense. Not so much with consoles. And to be honest, I don't EVER see Nintendo going totally DD.

You´re probably rigth about nintendo,but as far as sony and ms are concerned,I feel that they´re going to follow that route very soon.

I don't know if it's the same with PSN, but XBL gets new Games On Demand every tuesday - and it's beginning to be quite a library at the moment. MS need to sort out pricing and get some GOTY editions on there though - and I'd use it.
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Oh, I know Arach. And on PC, it makes sense. Not so much with consoles. And to be honest, I don't EVER see Nintendo going totally DD.Ravensmash

You´re probably rigth about nintendo,but as far as sony and ms are concerned,I feel that they´re going to follow that route very soon.

I don't know if it's the same with PSN, but XBL gets new Games On Demand every tuesday - and it's beginning to be quite a library at the moment. MS need to sort out pricing and get some GOTY editions on there though - and I'd use it.

I´m not very familiar with PSN or Xbox Live digital sales but as I understand it,they´re growing.
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Arach666"] You´re probably rigth about nintendo,but as far as sony and ms are concerned,I feel that they´re going to follow that route very soon.

Arach666

I don't know if it's the same with PSN, but XBL gets new Games On Demand every tuesday - and it's beginning to be quite a library at the moment. MS need to sort out pricing and get some GOTY editions on there though - and I'd use it.

I´m not very familiar with PSN or Xbox Live digital sales but as I understand it,they´re growing.

DD is probably like 10 yrs away from being popular the way options and pricing goes in NA

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#30 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Arach666"] The future is DD,my friend,it will all come to that eventually.;)Arach666

Oh, I know Arach. And on PC, it makes sense. Not so much with consoles. And to be honest, I don't EVER see Nintendo going totally DD.

You´re probably rigth about nintendo,but as far as sony and ms are concerned,I feel that they´re going to follow that route very soon.

Well, MS has a very big games on demand library, but many of them are too expensive to justify buying them.
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#31 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I don't know if it's the same with PSN, but XBL gets new Games On Demand every tuesday - and it's beginning to be quite a library at the moment. MS need to sort out pricing and get some GOTY editions on there though - and I'd use it.gamer-adam1

I´m not very familiar with PSN or Xbox Live digital sales but as I understand it,they´re growing.

DD is probably like 10 yrs away from being popular the way options and pricing goes in NA

How so?
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I've never been much of a reseller. In fact, I haven't sold any of the games I've purchased this gen. As a PC gamer, I'm just used to installing and keeping my games, and I kept that mentality when I bought my first console (PS3). :P

psn8214

I'm personally just someone who likes to look at their collection, makes me smile :) Can't do that with DD copies though :(

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#33 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

I've never been much of a reseller. In fact, I haven't sold any of the games I've purchased this gen. As a PC gamer, I'm just used to installing and keeping my games, and I kept that mentality when I bought my first console (PS3). :P

siLVURcross

I'm personally just someone who likes to look at their collection, makes me smile :) Can't do that with DD copies though :(

go to your steam library and click "grid view"

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Oh god no... There's gonna be even more terrible players in Left 4 Dead with their "controllers" *facepalm* Valve please don't...
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lol, DD is not the future. Why Steam gets alot of attention is due to the deals they run periodically. I want buy a $60 game from them normall, but if they sell The Witcher for like $10, I'm in lol, I just finally was able to play it this morning after basically waiting 24hours for it to download off of steam lol.

And one even has to wonder why on earth would Valve or the devs of these games be allowing their games sell for 75% off on down to 30% off, heck some of the games posted on Steam right now are less than a year old, and have a huge sale on them.

But anyway many more will always want to have a hard copy of a game over just a downloaded copy. Heck think of the games we bought off of psn now, people worry about having to keep a subscription to psn+ to keep the ones they give away, but what about the others. We do know inorder to play them you will always have to have a ps product to access psn inorder to play them right, subscription or not. Just like xbox owners will have to buy a xbox next gen or they lose the games they bought this gen from xbl.

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#36 2mrw
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I don't think the full steam service is going to PS3 (Unless this was announced yesterday and I didn't hear). PS3 will just get Steam updates for games made by Valve, since it's an "Open System"

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What does "an open system" mean ????
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lol, DD is not the future. Why Steam gets alot of attention is due to the deals they run periodically. I want buy a $60 game from them normall, but if they sell The Witcher for like $10, I'm in lol, I just finally was able to play it this morning after basically waiting 24hours for it to download off of steam lol.

And one even has to wonder why on earth would Valve or the devs of these games be allowing their games sell for 75% off on down to 30% off, heck some of the games posted on Steam right now are less than a year old, and have a huge sale on them.

But anyway many more will always want to have a hard copy of a game over just a downloaded copy. Heck think of the games we bought off of psn now, people worry about having to keep a subscription to psn+ to keep the ones they give away, but what about the others. We do know inorder to play them you will always have to have a ps product to access psn inorder to play them right, subscription or not. Just like xbox owners will have to buy a xbox next gen or they lose the games they bought this gen from xbl.

GreyFoXX4

This is incredibly baseless. There are plenty of people who buy their games through Steam sale or no sale. At the end of the day its just more convienient.

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#38 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I don't think the full steam service is going to PS3 (Unless this was announced yesterday and I didn't hear). PS3 will just get Steam updates for games made by Valve, since it's an "Open System"

2mrw

What does "an open system" mean ????

an open system is well best word to describe it is welll.....open.A few devs have taken advantage of the PSNs more open policy for example the modability of UT3,MGO being ran by Konami seperate (even tho K:ID is horrendous).It gives developers more choice on what the game does and the PSN its up to the company to police the game for rulebreakers aswell im sure in some cases.

But it gives developers a lot of space compared to XBL in some areas but the downer is the developer doesnt have the same one use standardised net code found in most XBL games but instead ones developed by themselves dunno if sony's changed that yet.

Better yet steamworks could pave the way for further steam/psn integration if say other companies got on board with the system for content delivery for games, potentially next genyou could see a PS4 with a steam-esque content delivery along with the normaloptical media found in store.(the store would be diffrent from that of the PC one) and integration it might just well hit the spot.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It's just Steamworks. :P

Steam won't be offered on PS3.

fun-da-mental

How do you know?

360 fanboys also said Valve will never develop on PS3.

is it just me thinking this or is every valve game other than l4d was available on ps3 (including portal)

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Really? so you gotta use a controller against mouse and keyboard on PSN then?markinthedark
There will be massive auto-aim added in to cross-platform games so actually the controller users will be given the advantage.
360 fanboys also said Valve will never develop on PS3.fun-da-mental
So the PS3 is a gaming development platform now? 'Develop on PS3' is completely different to 'develop for PS3'.

Steam isn´t going to the PS3.

Arach666
Exactly. Makes this thread seem a little bit pointless.
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#41 KittenWishes
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What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

clyde46
Steam isn't going to the PS3. I also saw this exact same topic yesterday, the OP being Level 1. ...
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#42 88mphSlayer
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lol, DD is not the future. Why Steam gets alot of attention is due to the deals they run periodically. I want buy a $60 game from them normall, but if they sell The Witcher for like $10, I'm in lol, I just finally was able to play it this morning after basically waiting 24hours for it to download off of steam lol.

And one even has to wonder why on earth would Valve or the devs of these games be allowing their games sell for 75% off on down to 30% off, heck some of the games posted on Steam right now are less than a year old, and have a huge sale on them.

But anyway many more will always want to have a hard copy of a game over just a downloaded copy. Heck think of the games we bought off of psn now, people worry about having to keep a subscription to psn+ to keep the ones they give away, but what about the others. We do know inorder to play them you will always have to have a ps product to access psn inorder to play them right, subscription or not. Just like xbox owners will have to buy a xbox next gen or they lose the games they bought this gen from xbl.

GreyFoXX4

you're really underestimating the power that periodic sales have on gaining new long-term customers and keeping current customers happy

overall what it means is building up a loyal customer base that comes back to buy the full-priced games after the sales are over

and not all games are put on sales all the time anyhow, not to mention the cost of servers and download connections is a lot less than shipping out retail boxes - a publisher can put together a bunch of old games nobody was buying anyways and throw them in with a couple of new games and make a pack and sell it at discount and still make pretty good profit - while the consumer wins as well

but all of that is besides the point - Steam isn't coming to the PS3

Steamworks is coming to the PS3, which enables instant free updates and DLC instead of always waiting for patches and DLC to be priced and/or pre-approved by Microsoft which is incompatible with how Valve works

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#43 felipebo
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Steam is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

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#44 Arach666
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Steam is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

felipebo

No,steam isn´t coming.

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#45 felipebo
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[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Steamworks is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

Arach666

No,steam isn´t coming.

Fixed :P

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#46 CentricStorm
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Steam is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

No,steam isn´t coming.

PS3 fanboy: Steam is coming? Excellent news, the PS3 is really improving now. PC gamer: No, Steam itself is not coming to the PS3. PS3 fanboy: Steam sucks.
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#47 Sniping_Crowbar
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What will MS do to counter this? Also anyone know the features of PS3 Steam?

clyde46

Ummmm Steam is already On the majority of gaming rigs that run on a windows platform that is by microsft so i don't see why they should give a **** lol and besides playstation getting steamworks which is the super basic update tool taht Steam uses, not the full platform and or program.

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#48 Arach666
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[QUOTE="CentricStorm"][QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Steam is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

No,steam isn´t coming.

PS3 fanboy: Steam is coming? Excellent news, the PS3 is really improving now. PC gamer: No, Steam itself is not coming to the PS3. PS3 fanboy: Steam sucks.

*looks at xfire counter* Man,and I thought I played Crysis a lot... :P
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#49 felipebo
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

Steam is coming? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Guess I'm a little late to the party, but that's good news.

CentricStorm

No,steam isn´t coming.

PS3 fanboy: Steam is coming? Excellent news, the PS3 is really improving now. PC gamer: No, Steam itself is not coming to the PS3. PS3 fanboy: Steam sucks.

If you're reffering to me, I'd like to know when did I say "Steam sucks".

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#50 CentricStorm
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*looks at xfire counter* Man,and I thought I played Crysis a lot... :PArach666
Certainly has been a great purchase for me.
If you're reffering to me, I'd like to know when did I say "Steam sucks".felipebo
Don't worry I'm not referring to anyone in particular - I'm talking about the hardcore PS3 fanboys.