With the XB1 reaching 1080p parity with the PS4...

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#1  Edited By GravityX
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Will we start to see higher resolutions from the 50% more powerful PS4? Maybe 1440p or higher?

Will we see games with more on screen action and more than 6-8 characters on screen?

Will we see more games from the easier to develop for console? Proper games not indie drivel.

Will we get cartoon games that aren't 14fps? Seriously really?

So ask yourselves what the real deal with the PS4?

It's not even as powerful as the 2Tflop PS3.

And when will it win an award for graphics?

Xbox One Launch Title (Not optimize, not to the metal API and without 10 percent reserve.)

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#2  Edited By Blabadon
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PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

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#3  Edited By treedoor
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I'm more curious when we'll actually see a game on the PS4, let alone the resolution a game displays in.

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#4 lundy86_4
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Nice troll thread.

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#5 lostrib
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why would they release a game at 1440p? most people will have 1080p televisions. Even in the PC world greater than 1080p isn't the norm

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#6  Edited By GravityX
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@treedoor said:

I'm more curious when we'll actually see a game on the PS4, let alone the resolution a game displays in.

Yeah the easier to develop for console releases one water down game and the super hard to develop for esram console releases 2 full featured racers..hmm

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#7  Edited By Riverwolf007
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i wish you dudes were not such freaks about resolution.

it uses shitloads of systems resources and you get nothing out of it.

now because of the ignorance of the unwashed masses they focus on resolution instead of important effects like draw distance and lighting and particles and water effects and lighting and ect, ect, ect...

nice job derp squad.

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#8 lostrib
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@Riverwolf007 said:

i wish you dudes were not such freaks about resolution.

it uses shitloads of systems resources and you get nothing out of it.

now because of the ignorance of the unwashed masses they focus on resolution instead of important effects like draw distance and lighting and particles and water effects and lighting and ect, ect, ect...

nice job derp squad.

uh it makes the image not look like a blurry mess

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#9  Edited By B4X
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@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

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#10 darkangel115
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I play nothing native. whether PS4 or XB1 it all gets upscaled to 4k. All this pissing over nothing is finally dying down, just let it OP

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It can't even manage 1080p without chugging like a fat man, what makes you think it will do 1440p?

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#12 SolidTy
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lol troll thread.

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#13 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

"However, the Xbox One version still suffers from similar frame-pacing issues originally encountered in the beta. Microsoft's hardware averages at a 30fps output but the ordering of its frames is uneven, causing certain stages to feel less smooth as a result."

"...causing a jittering sensation, while PS4 remains entirely consistent with a 33ms render-time per frame."

"What we're left with on Sony's platform is a nigh-on perfect 30fps playthrough, with each frame consistently being rendered in the correct order"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-face-off

keep up that shilling

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#14  Edited By GravityX
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@clyde46 said:

It can't even manage 1080p without chugging like a fat man, what makes you think it will do 1440p?

Well if the super snail like DDR3 memory of XB1 can do 1080p, them the ROP heavy, GDDR5 super fast memory with 66% more shaders in the PS4 should have no problem. Heck maybe 4k even.

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#15 sam890
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@b4x said:

@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

Crap is still crap.

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#16 lostrib
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@GravityX said:

@clyde46 said:

It can't even manage 1080p without chugging like a fat man, what makes you think it will do 1440p?

Well if the super snail like DDR3 memory of XB1 can do 1080p, them the ROP heavy, GDDR5 super fast memory with 66% more shaders in the PS4 should have no problem. Heck maybe 4k even.

that's idiotic

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#17  Edited By B4X
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@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

"However, the Xbox One version still suffers from similar frame-pacing issues originally encountered in the beta. Microsoft's hardware averages at a 30fps output but the ordering of its frames is uneven, causing certain stages to feel less smooth as a result."

"...causing a jittering sensation, while PS4 remains entirely consistent with a 33ms render-time per frame."

"What we're left with on Sony's platform is a nigh-on perfect 30fps playthrough, with each frame consistently being rendered in the correct order"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-face-off

keep up that shilling

PS4 had the exact same problem before Bungie patched it. Did you play Destiny PS4 Beta? It had the same frame rate pacing issue. Bungie since released a patch to address it. Do you think they will do the same for the X1?

I wish you would at least buy one of the systems.... So you would have even the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. :\

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#18  Edited By clyde46
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@GravityX said:

@clyde46 said:

It can't even manage 1080p without chugging like a fat man, what makes you think it will do 1440p?

Well if the super snail like DDR3 memory of XB1 can do 1080p, them the ROP heavy, GDDR5 super fast memory with 66% more shaders in the PS4 should have no problem. Heck maybe 4k even.

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#19 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

"However, the Xbox One version still suffers from similar frame-pacing issues originally encountered in the beta. Microsoft's hardware averages at a 30fps output but the ordering of its frames is uneven, causing certain stages to feel less smooth as a result."

"...causing a jittering sensation, while PS4 remains entirely consistent with a 33ms render-time per frame."

"What we're left with on Sony's platform is a nigh-on perfect 30fps playthrough, with each frame consistently being rendered in the correct order"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-face-off

keep up that shilling

PS4 had the same problem before Bungie patched it. Did you play Destiny PS4 Beta? It had the same frame rate pacing issue. Bungie since released a patch to address it. Do you think they will do the same for the X1?

I wish you would at least buy one of the systems.... So you have even the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. :\

You never seem to have a clue what you're talking about and you still post.

You posted a picture showing a 2fps fluctuation in favor of x1, even though the actual Destiny comparison from digital foundry found the PS4 to play much smoother with a "nigh-on perfect 30fps"

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#20  Edited By B4X
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@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

@Blabadon said:

PS4 is so powerful it accidentally goes over 60FPS in CoD. Gg Xbox

"However, the Xbox One version still suffers from similar frame-pacing issues originally encountered in the beta. Microsoft's hardware averages at a 30fps output but the ordering of its frames is uneven, causing certain stages to feel less smooth as a result."

"...causing a jittering sensation, while PS4 remains entirely consistent with a 33ms render-time per frame."

"What we're left with on Sony's platform is a nigh-on perfect 30fps playthrough, with each frame consistently being rendered in the correct order"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-destiny-face-off

keep up that shilling

PS4 had the same problem before Bungie patched it. Did you play Destiny PS4 Beta? It had the same frame rate pacing issue. Bungie since released a patch to address it. Do you think they will do the same for the X1?

I wish you would at least buy one of the systems.... So you have even the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. :\

You never seem to have a clue what you're talking about and you still post.

You posted a picture showing a 2fps fluctuation in favor of x1, even though the actual Destiny comparison from digital foundry found the PS4 to play much smoother with a "nigh-on perfect 30fps"

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

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#21 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@lostrib said:

@b4x said:

PS4 had the same problem before Bungie patched it. Did you play Destiny PS4 Beta? It had the same frame rate pacing issue. Bungie since released a patch to address it. Do you think they will do the same for the X1?

I wish you would at least buy one of the systems.... So you have even the slightest clue as to what you're talking about. :\

You never seem to have a clue what you're talking about and you still post.

You posted a picture showing a 2fps fluctuation in favor of x1, even though the actual Destiny comparison from digital foundry found the PS4 to play much smoother with a "nigh-on perfect 30fps"

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

Nope, Destiny on PS4 did not have that issue as evidenced by Digital Foundry analysis.

I actually just got home from work

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#22  Edited By B4X
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@lostrib: Right..... You're not a 200 post a day forum hero that holds down a job. You're amazing or suck at your job.... Yes the PS4 did have the issue. I played it... Look it up shill. You're not kidding anyone.

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#23 lundy86_4
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@b4x said:

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

That, or he's not an idiot. You're operating under the assumption that Bungie could patch it. It's an assumption, and nothing more.

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#24 lostrib
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@b4x said:

@lostrib: Right..... You're not a 200 post a day forum hero that holds down a job. You're amazing or suck at your job.... Yes the PS4 did have the issue. I played it... Look it up shill. You're not kidding anyone.

No, Destiny released on PS4 does not have that issue. it says so in the analysis, "nigh-on perfect 30fps"

Or I can just multitask. It really doesn't take that long to post here. And I doubt I'm at 200 a day

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#25  Edited By GTSaiyanjin2
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I'm sure if supersampling was an option more devs would be using it. I think the Lego games on the PS4 output at a larger res than 1080p, but its not that much higher. Most TV's are 1080p so I think most devs will settle with something in that range. Now IMO 1080p is not that important, and I say this knowing if I output anything but 1080p to my monitor, that it will look horrendous.

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It's funny when people are arguing over an ugly game like Destiny running in 30 fps like it's some sort of accomplishment

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@b4x: damn glad I bought destiny on the xbone. Ps4 is a hype machine.

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@GravityX said:

...

Will we start to see higher resolutions from the 50% more powerful PS4? Maybe 1440p or higher?

Will we see games with more on screen action and more than 6-8 characters on screen?

Will we see more games from the easier to develop for console? Proper games not indie drivel.

Will we get cartoon games that aren't 14fps? Seriously really?

o ask yourselves what the real deal with the PS4?

It's not even as powerful as the 2Tflop PS3.

And when will it win an award for graphics?

shut up. Seriously. Just shut up. The stupid coming out of people here...

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@b4x said:

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

Lostrib a Cow? I am pretty sure he is a hermit.. Based on this thread, Blackace and co - I genuinely believe lemmings have lost it.

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#30  Edited By lostrib
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@bloodlust_101 said:

@b4x said:

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

Lostrib a Cow? I am pretty sure he is a hermit.. Based on this thread, Blackace and co - I genuinely believe lemmings have lost it.

Not just a cow, but apparently a shill who is paid by sony

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@bloodlust_101 said:

@b4x said:

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

Lostrib a Cow? I am pretty sure he is a hermit.. Based on this thread, Blackace and co - I genuinely believe lemmings have lost it.

they have been in state of denial for the past year now, that bad is the xbone 792p

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@GravityX said:

...

Will we start to see higher resolutions from the 50% more powerful PS4? Maybe 1440p or higher?

Will we see games with more on screen action and more than 6-8 characters on screen?

Will we see more games from the easier to develop for console? Proper games not indie drivel.

Will we get cartoon games that aren't 14fps? Seriously really?

So ask yourselves what the real deal with the PS4?

It's not even as powerful as the 2Tflop PS3.

And when will it win an award for graphics?

That bold line there yeah that confirms you know absolutely nothing about hardware,if you believe the PS3 was 2TF then you are one dumber than blackace...lol

But didn't you make this thread like 10 months ago with Knack as well claiming the PS3 was 2TF.?

Or was your other account.?

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@b4x said:

Xbox One's frame-pacing issue is a minor annoyance, but far from a deal-breaker. Each platform holds at 30fps comfortably - the only drawback on Xbox One being its uneven spread of frames at certain points, causing a stutter sensation.

Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............

@clyde46 said:

It can't even manage 1080p without chugging like a fat man, what makes you think it will do 1440p?

The 7850 can do BF3 on 2560x1600 at 32 FPS on Ultra i don't see why the PS4 can't do 1440,is just and issue of visual lower quality and it can be achieve.

@b4x said:

So I guess that means the PS4 never had the same issue.

That is captured from the DF video.

There is no way you can not be a Sony Shill.

34,199 posts and climbing. You have a job... besides keeping Sony's nose clean in here? You are on a 200 post a day cycle since you were at 30,000 posts :\.... You either don't have a job... You don't do any work at your job... or you're a shill.

What is it?

You are an idiot that screen doesn't even show the same part in both games they are out of pace,not only that the frame pacing cause stutter one the xbox one version..hahaha

Did you just call lostrib a cow.? Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Man you really are clueless..ahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

If you call him a troll i may agree but a caw.? Yeah you are as loss with that as you are with your graphics arguments.

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#34 clyde46
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@tormentos: What CPU does that PC have?

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@GravityX said:

@treedoor said:

I'm more curious when we'll actually see a game on the PS4, let alone the resolution a game displays in.

Yeah the easier to develop for console releases one water down game and the super hard to develop for esram console releases 2 full featured racers..hmm

Yeah strange that...

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Nope.

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#37  Edited By Krelian-co
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@tormentos said:

Xbox One's frame-pacing issue is a minor annoyance, but far from a deal-breaker. Each platform holds at 30fps comfortably - the only drawback on Xbox One being its uneven spread of frames at certain points, causing a stutter sensation.

poor lems

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#38 gpuking
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What a ridiculous thread, just because a couple of games reached 1080p on the Bone due to forced parity attempts, does not make that 40% gap any less true. You'll definitely see it in future titles, oh and don't bullshit us with a 2tf ps3, unless you think we're all uninformed noobs on the street.

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#39 scatteh316
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@lostrib said:

why would they release a game at 1440p? most people will have 1080p televisions. Even in the PC world greater than 1080p isn't the norm

I would have to disagree on that one, 2560x1440 has really exploded over the last couple of years on PC due to how cheap the monitors have become.

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#40 lostrib
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@scatteh316: really? You think that resolutions above 1080p are the norm?

Just because you see a bunch of enthusiasts on places like OCN discussing Korean IPS panels doesn't mean the 1440p is the norm for PC gaming

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#41  Edited By scatteh316
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@lostrib said:

@scatteh316: really? You think that resolutions above 1080p are the norm?

Just because you see a bunch of enthusiasts on places like OCN discussing Korean IPS panels doesn't mean the 1440p is the norm for PC gaming

I think you would be surprised, these Korean monitors really shook up the world. And with 4k now at the absolute high end 2k is seen as a good compromise for people that can't afford to go to 4k or the graphics hardware to run it.

You can get a decent 1440p monitor now for the same price as a 120Hz+ 1080p monitor.

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haha its reaching parity because it achieved 1080p in a last gen title such as Destiny. lol lems are getting horny for reaching ps4 power but it won't happen this gen. Better chance in 5 years, let the wait be epic

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#44 tdkmillsy
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In the last 6 months

Microsoft have worked hard to improve their system including many more and refined features and reaching parity (or near parity) in more and more games combined with a rock solid Xbox Live.

Sony have released more indie games and had issues with PSN.

TC has a point, what are Sony actually doing.

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#45 BldgIrsh
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@clyde46 said:

@tormentos: What CPU does that PC have?

Obviously he won't answer.

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#47  Edited By silversix_
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@FastRobby said:

@silversix_ said:

haha its reaching parity because it achieved 1080p in a last gen title such as Destiny. lol lems are getting horny for reaching ps4 power but it won't happen this gen. Better chance in 5 years, let the wait be epic

When Xbox One doesn't reach 1080p on last-gen title it's because it's not strong enough; when they do reach it, it's because it's last gen title :s Destiny is way more graphically impressive compared to CoD: Ghosts, and that was what? 720p-900p on Xbox One? Cows grasping for straws because Sony lied to them again, with the most "powerful" console. Xbox One runs 1080p on Xbox One and can at the same time snap apps to the side, PS4 does shit. Microsoft just had a very bad XDK at launch, and now they are cathcing up, and improving at a faster pace than Sony. That's why they will come out on top as the best console. Same games graphically, but at the same time it can do so much more.

Ghost was 60fps, Destiny isn't. You can only do so much with the HD Toaster 7770 inside the console

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#50 tormentos
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@clyde46 said:

@tormentos: What CPU does that PC have?

The PS4 doesn't need an I5 and you know it and a 7870 like GPU will be barely CPU limited unless the game is CPU bound like Watch Dogs of Star Citizen..

Is funny instead of questioning how parity will be possible on 2 systems with the sames CPU but one has a stronger GPU,you actually go and make fun of the PS4 inability for running games at 1440, when you know TC is just trolling,i guess it most be that soft spot for MS talking again..

@scatteh316 said:

@lostrib said:

why would they release a game at 1440p? most people will have 1080p televisions. Even in the PC world greater than 1080p isn't the norm

I would have to disagree on that one, 2560x1440 has really exploded over the last couple of years on PC due to how cheap the monitors have become.

No the majority of gamers on PC by a truck play on 1080p on PS after that the most common resolution is 1366x768..barely over 720p.

@tdkmillsy said:

In the last 6 months

Microsoft have worked hard to improve their system including many more and refined features and reaching parity (or near parity) in more and more games combined with a rock solid Xbox Live.

Sony have released more indie games and had issues with PSN.

TC has a point, what are Sony actually doing.

There is no parity Need for Speed as 30FPS capped on PC,just because a damn developer decide to hold back stronger hardware doesn't mean parity was achieve.

Some indie games.? Hahaha So MLB,Infamous,TLOU are Indies.? hahahaa all since March now what has the xbox one get since January....Oh yeah Titanfall which was also on PC and 360,hell on 360 had more steady frames..lol