Woah, Sonic 06 is THAT horrible?

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#101 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] An opnion you got from someone else thus not YOUR opnion.

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No, thats my opinion

Pices why bother trying to discuss this with him, The reviews and the opinions of people who have played this garbage reflect what sonic 06 is, the worst sonic game ever.

Player reviews on this site are surprisingly positive considering the amount of hated aimed at the game.

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#102 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Pices"] Lets see : * Glitches * Bad camera * Unresponsive controls * Terrible characters * Terrible voice acting * Bad "acting" * Sonic has a horrible character model * Abysmal story * Ridiculous love relationship with a human being and a blue hedgehog * Hub-world * Loading screens Want me to say more?sonicthemegaman

Oh god, the loading screens, the loading times are horrible in that game. It makes no sense either.

How does it not make sense that it has to load?

What I meant is that the loading times shouldn't have been so long. Previous 3D Sonic games that I liked had faster load times.

Please be aware that I do like 3D Sonic games, just not all of them.

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#103 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="Burning-Sludge"]

IMO The Sonic main series should back to 2D and Sonic Team should be replaced.

Well, some 3D games were epic like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2. Heroes was alright.

I agree but the developers themselves need to go back to 2D for they can remember what a sonic game feels like and how to make one before they can go back to 3D.

Please no. Not the BARREL! I assume you know what I mean. :P
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#104 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Oh god, the loading screens, the loading times are horrible in that game. It makes no sense either.

How does it not make sense that it has to load?

What I meant is that the loading times shouldn't have been so long. Previous 3D Sonic games that I liked had faster load times.

Please be aware that I do like 3D Sonic games, just not all of them.

Ok, wasn't trying to say that but I understand. It probably has to do with fact that was a launch 360 title. Many launch games have loading issues because developers don't know how to program for the new systems. This happens often and sadly, in 2006, it happened to Sonic.
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#105 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] How does it not make sense that it has to load?sonicthemegaman

What I meant is that the loading times shouldn't have been so long. Previous 3D Sonic games that I liked had faster load times.

Please be aware that I do like 3D Sonic games, just not all of them.

Ok, wasn't trying to say that but I understand. It probably has to do with fact that was a launch 360 title. Many launch games have loading issues because developers don't know how to program for the new systems. This happens often and sadly, in 2006, it happened to Sonic.

That game came out in 2006, the 360 came out in 2005...

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#106 shutdown_202
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Ok, wasn't trying to say that but I understand. It probably has to do with fact that was a launch 360 title. Many launch games have loading issues because developers don't know how to program for the new systems. This happens often and sadly, in 2006, it happened to Sonic.sonicthemegaman

The 360 launched in 2005 so its not a launch title. Unless you mean it in the sense that it was the first game Sonic Team produced on 360 hardware, their launch game. It did launch with the PS3 though.

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#107 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Racer850"][QUOTE="Pices"] No, thats my opinionsonicthemegaman

Pices why bother trying to discuss this with him, The reviews and the opinions of people who have played this garbage reflect what sonic 06 is, the worst sonic game ever.

Player reviews on this site are surprisingly positive considering the amount of hated aimed at the game.

Seeing how it got a 6.2 from user scores here, maybe it did better for them than critics. I read some reviews and some users call it underrated. Some gave it a 10!

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#108 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="mitu123"] That game came out in 2006, the 360 came out in 2005...

mitu123

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]Ok, wasn't trying to say that but I understand. It probably has to do with fact that was a launch 360 title. Many launch games have loading issues because developers don't know how to program for the new systems. This happens often and sadly, in 2006, it happened to Sonic.shutdown_202

The 360 launched in 2005 so its not a launch title. Unless you mean it in the sense that it was the first game Sonic Team produced on 360 hardware, their launch game. It did launch with the PS3 though.

That is essentially what I meant but thanks for correcting me on 360 release date.
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#109 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]

Pices why bother trying to discuss this with him, The reviews and the opinions of people who have played this garbage reflect what sonic 06 is, the worst sonic game ever.Racer850
Player reviews on this site are surprisingly positive considering the amount of hated aimed at the game.

Seeing how it got a 6.2 from user scores here, maybe it did better for them than critics. I read some reviews and some users call it underrated. Some gave it a 10!

Yeah when comes to the actual players and not the bandwagon bunch, it's actually a mixed bag. Personally, I only gave the PS3 a 10 because apparently, by IGN and GS scores, Sonic Unleashed, easily the best 3d sonic next to SA1 and Heroes, is considered worse. I just gave up trying give each game accurate scores cause here it doesn't matter. If you like Sonic, everyone thinks you have a mental disorder. It gets annoying.
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#110 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Player reviews on this site are surprisingly positive considering the amount of hated aimed at the game.

sonicthemegaman

Seeing how it got a 6.2 from user scores here, maybe it did better for them than critics. I read some reviews and some users call it underrated. Some gave it a 10!

Yeah when comes to the actual players and not the bandwagon bunch, it's actually a mixed bag. Personally, I only gave the PS3 a 10 because apparently, by IGN and GS scores, Sonic Unleashed, easily the best 3d sonic next to SA1 and Heroes, is considered worse. I just gave up trying give each game accurate scores cause here it doesn't matter. If you like Sonic, everyone thinks you have a mental disorder. It gets annoying.

I still don't understand how Sonic Unleashed scored lower than Sonic 06 on those sites, to me it was way better and I actually had some fun with it, but it did have some flaws here and there. It is still close to Heroes though.

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#111 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Seeing how it got a 6.2 from user scores here, maybe it did better for them than critics. I read some reviews and some users call it underrated. Some gave it a 10!

Yeah when comes to the actual players and not the bandwagon bunch, it's actually a mixed bag. Personally, I only gave the PS3 a 10 because apparently, by IGN and GS scores, Sonic Unleashed, easily the best 3d sonic next to SA1 and Heroes, is considered worse. I just gave up trying give each game accurate scores cause here it doesn't matter. If you like Sonic, everyone thinks you have a mental disorder. It gets annoying.

I still don't understand how Sonic Unleashed scored lower than Sonic 06 on those sites, to me it was way better and I actually had some fun with it, but it did have some flaws here and there. It is still close to Heroes though.

Exactly why I stopped caring about reviews and what bashers have to say about Sonic. It's considered "cool" nowadays to bash Sonic. This endless sea of misinformed mainstreamers might never cease until the whole Sonic franchise dies which is probably what these people want.
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#112 ActicEdge
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Sonic 06 is horrible yes. I wish it wasn't allowed to exist, its a sin that some poor unfortunates had to play it.

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#113 BioShockOwnz
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I love Sonic. I am a Sonic fanboy. I thought Unleashed was quite a delight, despite that damn Werehog. But really, there is no good excuse I can make for Sonic '06. It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. The game is freaking broken in so many ways. Gameplay is hacked up.

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#114 Stats_
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It can't be much worse then Fable 2 or Senko no ronde.

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#115 BioShockOwnz
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It can't be much worse then Fable 2 or Senko no ronde.

Stats_

Fable 2 is a AA-AAA game, depending on the individual (unbiased, of course). Sonic '06 is an F game.

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#116 Stats_
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It can't be much worse then Fable 2 or Senko no ronde.

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Fable 2 is a AA-AAA game, depending on the individual (unbiased, of course). Sonic '06 is an F game.

Fable was just ... horrible, horrible in everyway bar graphically.

I did enjoy making swords though.

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#117 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

It can't be much worse then Fable 2 or Senko no ronde.

Stats_

Fable 2 is a AA-AAA game, depending on the individual (unbiased, of course). Sonic '06 is an F game.

Fable was just ... horrible, horrible in everyway bar graphically.

I did enjoy making swords though.

No it wasn't. It's okie dokie to dislike a game and still judge it in a fair manner.

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#118 Stats_
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[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Fable 2 is a AA-AAA game, depending on the individual (unbiased, of course). Sonic '06 is an F game.

BioShockOwnz

Fable was just ... horrible, horrible in everyway bar graphically.

I did enjoy making swords though.

No it wasn't. It's okie dokie to dislike a game and still judge it in a fair manner.

That is fair. I honestly can't find one thing i liked about the game, other then the sword making mini game or it's pretty colours.

the story was abysmal, the combat was even worse, and the magic system ... why one earth did they change it?

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#119 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Yeah when comes to the actual players and not the bandwagon bunch, it's actually a mixed bag. Personally, I only gave the PS3 a 10 because apparently, by IGN and GS scores, Sonic Unleashed, easily the best 3d sonic next to SA1 and Heroes, is considered worse. I just gave up trying give each game accurate scores cause here it doesn't matter. If you like Sonic, everyone thinks you have a mental disorder. It gets annoying.sonicthemegaman

I still don't understand how Sonic Unleashed scored lower than Sonic 06 on those sites, to me it was way better and I actually had some fun with it, but it did have some flaws here and there. It is still close to Heroes though.

Exactly why I stopped caring about reviews and what bashers have to say about Sonic. It's considered "cool" nowadays to bash Sonic. This endless sea of misinformed mainstreamers might never cease until the whole Sonic franchise dies which is probably what these people want.

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

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#120 chocolate1325
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I will agree that the game isn't the worst but its somewhere in the top 5 worst Sonic games ever. The game has so many flaws its endless.

Story impossible to follow

Sonic is slow

It is frustrating

Glitches virtually everywhere

Loading times

Playing as boring slow friends

Hedgehog and human love is sick

Clearly Unfinished

Boring side missions don't belong in Sonic games

In some levels when Sonic is hitting speed pads you could virtually find yourself falling into bottomless pits endless amounts of time. All that debris in Crisis City is just ridculous. All that stuff coming out of nowhere. The game is impossible to defend with all these problems. It is a very bad game one that Sonic fans like to forget. The game was worse because of all the promises back then that it was gonna be Sonics big comeback but it was far from it.

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#121 San_09
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I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

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#122 Pices
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[QUOTE="San_09"]

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

Maybe the Wii version IS better, all other sites gave the Wii version a higher score as well
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#123 mitu123
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[QUOTE="San_09"]

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

Pices

Maybe the Wii version IS better, all other sites gave the Wii version a higher score as well

It's also different from the 360 and PS3 versions when it came to level designs, it was developed by Dimps.

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I couldn't continue listening to the reject in the video..
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#125 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Yeah, I think I saw in another thread him defending all the recent 3D sonic games including Sonic 06.

Brawl578

*facepalm* How can he defend THIS trainwreck ??!!

He simply repeats that it's his opinion. For actual facts as to why you and me should like the game, he comes empty-handed.

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

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#126 Panosola
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Yes it is horrible......
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#127 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Brawl578"]

*facepalm* How can he defend THIS trainwreck ??!!Pices

He simply repeats that it's his opinion. For actual facts as to why you and me should like the game, he comes empty-handed.

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

I never used the word "broken" in the same sentence as SMG. More proof you guys need to read more.
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#128 Pices
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Brawl578"]

*facepalm* How can he defend THIS trainwreck ??!!Pices

He simply repeats that it's his opinion. For actual facts as to why you and me should like the game, he comes empty-handed.

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

When I found out that he gave Unleashed a 10 and gave some of the Prime games a 6 and a 7, he just lost all creditability
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#129 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I still don't understand how Sonic Unleashed scored lower than Sonic 06 on those sites, to me it was way better and I actually had some fun with it, but it did have some flaws here and there. It is still close to Heroes though.

Exactly why I stopped caring about reviews and what bashers have to say about Sonic. It's considered "cool" nowadays to bash Sonic. This endless sea of misinformed mainstreamers might never cease until the whole Sonic franchise dies which is probably what these people want.

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

I do give you substantive information that happens to be about how the actually plays, not how someone thinks it does. What kills me is that 2D Sonic games share a lot of so called "bad level design" and never get called out. Sonic 3 and Sonic Rush both suck by these ridiculous standards you people set. Sonic 3 has the barrel incident and Sonic Rush requires you to predict the future if you expect not to fall and die. Since trial and error is considered so taboo, these games should be considered bad. Not to say I agree with that but the "quality" Sonic games share the same problems as the 3D ones.
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#130 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Brawl578"]

He simply repeats that it's his opinion. For actual facts as to why you and me should like the game, he comes empty-handed.

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

When I found out that he gave Unleashed a 10 and gave some of the Prime games a 6 and a 7, he just lost all creditability

Because my opnion is different from yours? Please.....
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#131 Segaswirl1
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I've really tried to like this game... but if you've played Sonic Adventure 1 or 2, it's impossible. Good Sonic games can be done in 3D, they've been done before.

The amount of loading, the poor level design, the bad camera, the pop up... those 3 things alone should indicate to people that the game was clearly released unfinished. I know people like to claim they're hardcore Sonic fans by playing Sonic 06, but IMO... you're really not helping him/it. You're just encouraging Sega to continue to make poor Sonic games.

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#132 Domobomb
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I did not play this game, nor did I finish watching this review. But damn! This is the worst reviewer I've ever listened to. srsly.

It's funny how he's sitting there complaining about how annoying the voice acting is when he much much worse.

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#133 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

I did not play this game, nor did I finish watching this review. But damn! This is the worst reviewer I've ever listened to. srsly.

It's funny how he's sitting there complaining about how annoying the voice acting is when he much much worse.

I know right. If the TC linked me to FTCR or HFC, I would see his/her point much more cleary. The so called "review" the TC posted makes me think he/she hasn't even played let alone know how it plays.
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#134 Pices
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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Domobomb"]

I did not play this game, nor did I finish watching this review. But damn! This is the worst reviewer I've ever listened to. srsly.

It's funny how he's sitting there complaining about how annoying the voice acting is when he much much worse.

I know right. If the TC linked me to FTCR or HFC, I would see his/her point much more cleary. The so called "review" the TC posted makes me think he/she hasn't even played let alone know how it plays.

Why should I waste my precious money on garbage? Seriously, I'm trying to ignore you, but you're really annoying
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#135 Pices
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[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

I did not play this game, nor did I finish watching this review. But damn! This is the worst reviewer I've ever listened to. srsly.

It's funny how he's sitting there complaining about how annoying the voice acting is when he much much worse.

Ok good
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#136 Rikusaki
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Sonic Adventure was the only good 3D sonic game...

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#137 awssk8er716
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Lol. Funny review.

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#138 Pices
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Lol. Funny review.

awssk8er716
Yup, shows the big flaws of the game in a very funny way
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#139 Racer850
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Sonic Adventure was the only good 3D sonic game...

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agreed.
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#140 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Exactly why I stopped caring about reviews and what bashers have to say about Sonic. It's considered "cool" nowadays to bash Sonic. This endless sea of misinformed mainstreamers might never cease until the whole Sonic franchise dies which is probably what these people want.sonicthemegaman

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

I do give you substantive information that happens to be about how the actually plays, not how someone thinks it does. What kills me is that 2D Sonic games share a lot of so called "bad level design" and never get called out. Sonic 3 and Sonic Rush both suck by these ridiculous standards you people set. Sonic 3 has the barrel incident and Sonic Rush requires you to predict the future if you expect not to fall and die. Since trial and error is considered so taboo, these games should be considered bad. Not to say I agree with that but the "quality" Sonic games share the same problems as the 3D ones.

The barrel incident is one mistake in an overall great game. True that Sonic Rush has those blind areas that require a bit of trial and error but that again is one flaw, rather than a host of flaws.

The information I have is also about how that games play, so I'd appreciate not having my opinions dismissed out of hand because they are not the same as yours.

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#141 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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a friend got it for me on my birthday earlier this year. we no longer speak to each other
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#142 omarsh94
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Damn i didn't know it's that bad, it is just a pathetic piece of ****. Sonic should die and leave the gaming world forever.

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#143 Backbonesalsa
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Apparently, there anew Sonic gamecoming in 2010 proclaiming to go back to the series roots.

.... Maybe this time....... Maybe....

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#144 waynehead895
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That game should be forgotten, and the PS3 version is worse with lots of framerate drops.

Pices

Horrible games can't be forgotten, you'll remember them on how bad they were. This game will be remembered as one of the worst games of the 7th Console Generation.

True words here. Big Rigs will never be forgotten.

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#145 Burning-Sludge
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Damn i didn't know it's that bad, it is just a pathetic piece of ****. Sonic should die and leave the gaming world forever.

omarsh94

No no no no no no no! Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure were great so Sonic should not die. Only Sonic Team should die.

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#146 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Exactly why I stopped caring about reviews and what bashers have to say about Sonic. It's considered "cool" nowadays to bash Sonic. This endless sea of misinformed mainstreamers might never cease until the whole Sonic franchise dies which is probably what these people want.sonicthemegaman

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

I do give you substantive information that happens to be about how the actually plays, not how someone thinks it does. What kills me is that 2D Sonic games share a lot of so called "bad level design" and never get called out. Sonic 3 and Sonic Rush both suck by these ridiculous standards you people set. Sonic 3 has the barrel incident and Sonic Rush requires you to predict the future if you expect not to fall and die. Since trial and error is considered so taboo, these games should be considered bad. Not to say I agree with that but the "quality" Sonic games share the same problems as the 3D ones.

The difference though was that those games weren't bug riddled piles of trash, and the gameplay then was still fresh. When you died you were still having fun. Sonic '06 is not fun.

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#147 Renegade_Fury
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Apparently, there anew Sonic gamecoming in 2010 proclaiming to go back to the series roots.

.... Maybe this time....... Maybe....

Backbonesalsa

Have you learned nothing?

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#148 Odnomiar
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Those reviews made me laugh so hard... lol.

any way. sonic games now have a reputation for being glitchy, unpolished, poorly designed and bewilderingly difficult. It's a reputation they earned themselves through YEARS of self mutilation.

I don't mind difficult games. but, the factis that 3dsonic games rely more on luck and patience more than anything else. ie, no actual skill involved in how you play at speed.

With the originals, you ENJOYED playing and if you died, it was 8/10 because YOU failed. not a failure of design. true, they still had their bottomless pits and the Labyrinth zones. but I remember those games were always fun and often get replayed now by millions of sonic fans awaiting a true return to glory.

but the sad truth is, with no Yuji Naka, and Sonic Team (in name only... if you ask me the real sonic team, the ones that created Sonic, NiGHTS, Burning Rangers and PSO are all working elsewhere.) content to continue dishing out franchise sequals with the regularity of bowel movements, things aren't gonna change. It's a crying shame that the best game Sonic has appeared in on a home console was on wii in Smash bros. brawl.

You cansay I'm on a sonic bashing bandwagonif you like... I don't care.But,I grew up withSonic, those games are among my all time favorites.I would love it if there was a new game on a home console that DIDN'T turn into a blindingbug fest. that entertained as sonic should, that played like sonic should.

Sonicwas a 2dinventionthat just clearly doesn't work in true 3d.

I only hope that this Sonic 2010 is gonna be the return of the speed king in 2D thattrue Sonic fanshave cravedfor years.

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#149 Rikusaki
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Apparently, there anew Sonic gamecoming in 2010 proclaiming to go back to the series roots.

.... Maybe this time....... Maybe....

Backbonesalsa

Nah, Sonic Team has lost all of it's good developers. The games will just continue to suck no matter what they say.

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#150 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

I do give you substantive information that happens to be about how the actually plays, not how someone thinks it does. What kills me is that 2D Sonic games share a lot of so called "bad level design" and never get called out. Sonic 3 and Sonic Rush both suck by these ridiculous standards you people set. Sonic 3 has the barrel incident and Sonic Rush requires you to predict the future if you expect not to fall and die. Since trial and error is considered so taboo, these games should be considered bad. Not to say I agree with that but the "quality" Sonic games share the same problems as the 3D ones.

The difference though was that those games weren't bug riddled piles of trash, and the gameplay then was still fresh. When you died you were still having fun. Sonic '06 is not fun.

In your opnion it isn't fun but I'm not here to convince you it. Take it as you will. Just remember, Sonic 2 introduced "death by life". That isn't exactly good game design.