Woah, Sonic 06 is THAT horrible?

Those reviews made me laugh so hard... lol.

any way. sonic games now have a reputation for being glitchy, unpolished, poorly designed and bewilderingly difficult. It's a reputation they earned themselves through YEARS of self mutilation.

I don't mind difficult games. but, the factis that 3dsonic games rely more on luck and patience more than anything else. ie, no actual skill involved in how you play at speed.

With the originals, you ENJOYED playing and if you died, it was 8/10 because YOU failed. not a failure of design. true, they still had their bottomless pits and the Labyrinth zones. but I remember those games were always fun and often get replayed now by millions of sonic fans awaiting a true return to glory.

but the sad truth is, with no Yuji Naka, and Sonic Team (in name only... if you ask me the real sonic team, the ones that created Sonic, NiGHTS, Burning Rangers and PSO are all working elsewhere.) content to continue dishing out franchise sequals with the regularity of bowel movements, things aren't gonna change. It's a crying shame that the best game Sonic has appeared in on a home console was on wii in Smash bros. brawl.

You cansay I'm on a sonic bashing bandwagonif you like... I don't care.But,I grew up withSonic, those games are among my all time favorites.I would love it if there was a new game on a home console that DIDN'T turn into a blindingbug fest. that entertained as sonic should, that played like sonic should.

Sonicwas a 2dinventionthat just clearly doesn't work in true 3d.

I only hope that this Sonic 2010 is gonna be the return of the speed king in 2D thattrue Sonic fanshave cravedfor years.

I did not play this game, nor did I finish watching this review. But damn! This is the worst reviewer I've ever listened to. srsly.

It's funny how he's sitting there complaining about how annoying the voice acting is when he much much worse.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

When you compare the quality of Sonic titles now, and compare then to the original Sonic titles on the Genesis and the DS Sonic games, it's easy to see how terrible the recent games are. I have tried Sonic 06, I tried Sonic Unleashed, I tried Secret Rings and Black Night. I wanted to like those games because I have loved Sonic from the very beginning. I couldn't. Either the framerate was terrible, or the gameplay was repetitive, or broken.

Now, I can already hear your argument: I didn't give it enough chance, I'm predisposed to hate Sonic because I'm following the masses in my opinions, blah, blah. I played the games and made my own decisions. You have your own opinion, and that's well and good, but when you blindly argue without offering substantive information. Good luck with that.

The barrel incident is one mistake in an overall great game. True that Sonic Rush has those blind areas that require a bit of trial and error but that again is one flaw, rather than a host of flaws.

The information I have is also about how that games play, so I'd appreciate not having my opinions dismissed out of hand because they are not the same as yours.

Yes. It had a horrible camera and controls.

And...lets...not...mention...the...loading...

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

Sonic games in 2D are very good games because they are fun and have hardly any flaws. I will admit Sonic 1,2 and 3 as well as Sonic CD do have small flaws but not anywhere near the problems that disaster of a game Sonic 2006 has.

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="San_09"]

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

blazingneo32089

Please respect the fact that one could not have played Sonic, but still have a well informed opinion about other games. Don't assume. Yes we all have our own opinions, but some support theirs better than others.

[QUOTE="blazingneo32089"][QUOTE="Pices"] Maybe the Wii version IS better, all other sites gave the Wii version a higher score as welljimkabrhel

Please respect the fact that one could not have played Sonic, but still have a well informed opinion about other games. Don't assume. Yes we all have our own opinions, but some support theirs better than others.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="blazingneo32089"] U obviously didn't play Unleashed nor '06. Not even Metroid Prime. U r agreeing with critics about a game u never played. Please respect other people's opinions. Beleive me, in my opinion, I got bored with Metroid Prime and I got Sonic '06 for 10 bucks and I had some fun. Its not great but I find it fun. Please respect THAT. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Critic's reviews are opinions as well as player's reviews. U can agree or disagree but please know that they are not 100% facts. They are opinions. No one has to like a game because critics gave it a perfect score nor vice versa. Play the game urself and see what u think.sonicthemegaman

Please respect the fact that one could not have played Sonic, but still have a well informed opinion about other games. Don't assume. Yes we all have our own opinions, but some support theirs better than others.

If you look at his reviews, it's pretty clear he's played Metroid.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Please respect the fact that one could not have played Sonic, but still have a well informed opinion about other games. Don't assume. Yes we all have our own opinions, but some support theirs better than others.

If you look at his reviews, it's pretty clear he's played Metroid.

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

I see your point but since this is about Sonic, it would help to have a well informed opnion about those games. Besides, BN isn't assuming anything. You can tell by Pices post that he/she is joking or is a review follower. It's not hard to figure out.sonicthemegaman

If you look at his reviews, it's pretty clear he's played Metroid.

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="San_09"]

I agree on this one. Sonic 06 was probably the biggest emarassment for Sonic. Probably the worst game he has been in.

Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were good, Heroes was decent. Shadow the hedgehog, with a few tweaks, COULD have been good, but unfortunately, it was rushed and resulted in being crap.

However, Unleashed is in the right direction. But seriosuly, how the hell can GS give the game a 3.5, and give Sonic 06 a higher score? What's even more stupid is that they gave the Wii version a 7.0?

blazingneo32089

Umm, are you talking to me, or Pices? If you are talking to me, then I have played Unleased a bit of Sonic 06 and definitely Metroid Prime. Unleashed was better than Sonic 06, no argument.

[QUOTE="Odnomiar"]

Those reviews made me laugh so hard... lol.

any way. sonic games now have a reputation for being glitchy, unpolished, poorly designed and bewilderingly difficult. It's a reputation they earned themselves through YEARS of self mutilation.

I don't mind difficult games. but, the factis that 3d sonic games rely more on luck and patience more than anything else. ie, no actual skill involved in how you play at speed.

With the originals, you ENJOYED playing and if you died, it was 8/10 because YOU failed. not a failure of design. true, they still had their bottomless pits and the Labyrinth zones. but I remember those games were always fun and often get replayed now by millions of sonic fans awaiting a true return to glory.

but the sad truth is, with no Yuji Naka, and Sonic Team (in name only... if you ask me the real sonic team, the ones that created Sonic, NiGHTS, Burning Rangers and PSO are all working elsewhere.) content to continue dishing out franchise sequals with the regularity of bowel movements, things aren't gonna change. It's a crying shame that the best game Sonic has appeared in on a home console was on wii in Smash bros. brawl.

You cansay I'm on a sonic bashing bandwagonif you like... I don't care.But,I grew up withSonic, those games are among my all time favorites. I would love it if there was a new game on a home console that DIDN'T turn into a blinding bug fest. that entertained as sonic should, that played like sonic should.

Sonicwas a 2dinvention that just clearly doesn't work in true 3d.

I only hope that this Sonic 2010 is gonna be the return of the speed king in 2D that true Sonic fanshave craved for years.

sonicthemegaman

I'm basically saying, as clearly you didin't understand my point, that playing Sonic games of late is difficult not bydesign, but by poor design. You can't deny it. how often have you died in... ummm... let's say... Sonic Heroes, due to a camera that won't behave, or falling through scenery or backgrounds. I don't mind losing lives in games, so long as I feel that it's my fault. the fact is, ALLSonic games after the DC play exactly like this.

I lol'd especially at the second part.

It's true though, I think Sonic 2 was the last good Sonic game that I played. Although I hear the PSP and DS ones are still good.

EDIT: Watching some of this guys videos, he's funny :lol:.

[QUOTE="blazingneo32089"][QUOTE="Pices"] Maybe the Wii version IS better, all other sites gave the Wii version a higher score as wellPices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="blazingneo32089"] U obviously didn't play Unleashed nor '06. Not even Metroid Prime. U r agreeing with critics about a game u never played. Please respect other people's opinions. Beleive me, in my opinion, I got bored with Metroid Prime and I got Sonic '06 for 10 bucks and I had some fun. Its not great but I find it fun. Please respect THAT. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Critic's reviews are opinions as well as player's reviews. U can agree or disagree but please know that they are not 100% facts. They are opinions. No one has to like a game because critics gave it a perfect score nor vice versa. Play the game urself and see what u think.blazingneo32089

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="Brawl578"]

He simply repeats that it's his opinion. For actual facts as to why you and me should like the game, he comes empty-handed.

sonicthemegaman

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

No, it only proves that i don't remember everything that is written in SW :P, in fact, that's what i said,then again, i remember that you were saying thatwhat you think about Sonic games was only your opinion, then you criticed SMGgameplay or controller (like i said i don't remember) with "facts".

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

If you look at his reviews, it's pretty clear he's played Metroid.

Pices

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"] Yeah but he didn't play Sonic and he disrespects people who don't like Metroid like he does. He's blindly argueing about a game he knows nothing about and bashing people with different opnions. What he says shouldn't even be taken seriously because of this.sonicthemegaman

Why not, people do it here all the time... :P

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]

tHATS IT, you seriously expecting me to buy the game and make a video review of me playing it just because some random online "annoyer" like you kept on telling me that I can't judge it. FinePices

Why not, people do it here all the time... :P

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Odnomiar"] [QUOTE="Odnomiar"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="Odnomiar"]

Those reviews made me laugh so hard... lol.

any way. sonic games now have a reputation for being glitchy, unpolished, poorly designed and bewilderingly difficult. It's a reputation they earned themselves through YEARS of self mutilation.

I don't mind difficult games. but, the factis that 3d sonic games rely more on luck and patience more than anything else. ie, no actual skill involved in how you play at speed.

With the originals, you ENJOYED playing and if you died, it was 8/10 because YOU failed. not a failure of design. true, they still had their bottomless pits and the Labyrinth zones. but I remember those games were always fun and often get replayed now by millions of sonic fans awaiting a true return to glory.

but the sad truth is, with no Yuji Naka, and Sonic Team (in name only... if you ask me the real sonic team, the ones that created Sonic, NiGHTS, Burning Rangers and PSO are all working elsewhere.) content to continue dishing out franchise sequals with the regularity of bowel movements, things aren't gonna change. It's a crying shame that the best game Sonic has appeared in on a home console was on wii in Smash bros. brawl.

You cansay I'm on a sonic bashing bandwagonif you like... I don't care.But,I grew up withSonic, those games are among my all time favorites. I would love it if there was a new game on a home console that DIDN'T turn into a blinding bug fest. that entertained as sonic should, that played like sonic should.

Sonicwas a 2dinvention that just clearly doesn't work in true 3d.

I only hope that this Sonic 2010 is gonna be the return of the speed king in 2D that true Sonic fanshave craved for years.

Odnomiar

I'm basically saying, as clearly you didin't understand my point, that playing Sonic games of late is difficult not bydesign, but by poor design. You can't deny it. how often have you died in... ummm... let's say... Sonic Heroes, due to a camera that won't behave, or falling through scenery or backgrounds. I don't mind losing lives in games, so long as I feel that it's my fault. the fact is, ALLSonic games after the DC play exactly like this.

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

If your talking about the same guy i'm thinking, then, he also said that SMG gameplay is broken (or something like that)

No, it only proves that i don't remember everything that is written in SW :P, in fact, that's what i said,then again, i remember that you were saying thatwhat you think about Sonic games was only your opinion, then you criticed SMGgameplay or controller (like i said i don't remember) with "facts".

Yes Sonic 06 is absolutly horrible Sonic Unleashed's day stages are comparable and sometimes better than say SMG and unleashed still got worse than the shocking 06. (This is why ive already lost all faith in review sites.

Yes Sonic 06 is absolutly horrible Sonic Unleashed's day stages are comparable and sometimes better than say SMG and unleashed still got worse than the shocking 06. (This is why ive already lost all faith in review sites.

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